Zoom G3

[Gaetano Capuano]

... hmmm, that could be a problem, because I'M very interested about delays on G3, but how noticeable is that ?,becouse u know,at home practicing maybe is not a big deal, but on stage,could be...:huh ....
Anyway,they are any other mini "bugs" on G3...?

Hey man, no mini bugs at all accept occasianolly, like once for a few seconds every 30 hours of use or so, it stops taking tap/control in signals for about 5 seconds, even if you bend down and tap the tempo button manually, only lasts a few seconds and hardly ever happens, its happened about 3 times in the 100+ hours of use I have with it. :p Plus I cant be sure its a bug, maybe I had too much goin on ATM with it, maybe cause I always have it daisy chained, maybe its jsut my unit, also I doubt anyone else uses one as much or always with a synced external tap tempo like I do who can say they have experienced it.

As far as the above being a problem, I am a heavy delay user, and use the G3 3-5 times live a week, and you get sued to it really, you tp in at the oppurtune time, really you jsut learn to compensate, no different than the Deluxe emory Man/Boy or panther, or any other analog or analog voiced style delay that wildly vibratos when the tempo changes, actually the Zoom stop is a little better than all those other ones for live sounds ;) but on a side note the delays sound EXCELLENT! :bonk check my youtube channel for loads of demos and examples of the delays! (http://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarLessonSarasota?feature=guide)

[photone]

Thanx! Maybe I can live with that little problem. Actually, first I was interesed to Strymon Timeline/ Eventide Timefactor/ Digitech Timebender but they are too expensive ( and for sure sound good,but..), after I hear good things about G3' delays, and with the posibility to combine at time 2 or 3 delays/reverbs maybe is posible to achieve, tweaking a little with parameters, a good delay sound apropiate to Strymon's, etc...:huh

with a synced external tap tempo
..you use ableton live for sync?

[Gaetano Capuano]

..you use ableton live for sync?

I do use Abelton but not for what we are talking about. By synced I meant 2 or 3 effects on the G3 with other time based effects on my pedalboard, all synced up through one tap tempo pedal. The G3 will not take midi sync with Abelton AFAIK, think you need Timeline, TImefactor, or even GT-10 does.

[ccouch7]

Wow, that was an amazing clip! :aok.
Nice Job!
Thanks!:beer

sounds great ccouch
I appreciate it man, Thank You!

I listened thru Headphones and it's even cooler.
I love the way you used the space with the big rhythms spread right out and
the mad panning. What did you use for drums?
Thank you sir! I programed the drums with Superior Drummer 2.0 and a drummer friend
helped me tweak them in a little.:)

[ccouch7]

Nothing wrong with your playing and that tone was just perfect! It had the depth and the note articulation that just makes a bass stand out in the mix without being overbearing, just perfect.

You got a good ear man and thats 90% of this game.
I appreciate that man, that makes me feel good:phones. I've had the toughest time trying to get a decent
recorded bass tone, I've tried all kinds of different things (sans amps, mic pres, software, ect.) in my search.
I was really loving the M6 with the band, this was the first time I tried recording the D.I. on it, so thanks again for that!!

[Gaetano Capuano]

YEAP more comparison videos from me, today I did the boss DD-20 in its 2 favorite (my fav) modes. Probly gonna make a new thread but wanted to share these here.

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iAd6g0YH9Ps

BONUS
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[lspaulsp]

Has anyone used the recording software is it worth loading???????????????????????????

[stratchamp57]

The disc that came with my g3 didnt work. :(

[stratchamp57]

Where do you guys set the "tube" parameter most of the time?

Oh, and henky, I just watched your zoom g3 brown sound vid. You sure know how to get good tones out of the g3. :aok

[Henky]

Oh, and henky, I just watched your zoom g3 brown sound vid. You sure know how to get good tones out of the g3. :aok
Thanks mate, the brown sound was the easiest patch I've ever done on the G3.
It's more or less "built-in", basically the MS Drive model with almost everything set to 100... :D

[lspaulsp]

Henky, I have an Ibanez V to match your Moderne, The pickups are amazing! I almost bought the Moderne and Explorer. Probably would have been the best $900 I ever spent or were they $399. Wow long ago!!!!!!!

[musikman]

YEAP more comparison videos from me, today I did the boss DD-20 in its 2 favorite (my fav) modes. Probly gonna make a new thread but wanted to share these here.

GJ20mEwb5Jc

iAd6g0YH9Ps

BONUS
yCu410Se3Z4


Bro,

Could you upload these videos to Vimeo? For some reason, I can't play these videos here, but Vimeo works fine. Thanks in advance...

[Gaetano Capuano]

OK guys, my G3 will not recognize my expresion pedal, and it takes the siganl as if it was a switch instead, meaning if I sweep up and down it will change the tempo, but whatever I set the expression pedal too it does not work. I have a feeling maybe I am misusing this? I always have it set on tap tempo, so it seems you jsut plug the expresion pedal in and set it to a parameter, but is there something you select to choose whether you are using a tap switch or expression pedal?

[yurka723]

OK guys, my G3 will not recognize my expresion pedal, and it takes the siganl as if it was a switch instead, meaning if I sweep up and down it will change the tempo, but whatever I set the expression pedal too it does not work. I have a feeling maybe I am misusing this? I always have it set on tap tempo, so it seems you jsut plug the expresion pedal in and set it to a parameter, but is there something you select to choose whether you are using a tap switch or expression pedal?

Yes, Check out the manual. I believe you have to click "Global", and at the right LCD, it will give you the options for the expression pedal and parameters. My expression pedal works just fine.

[Gaetano Capuano]

Yeah no I know that, where I think my problem is, if its not just the unit messing up, is it still thinks I am using a tap tempo, so I set the exp pedal to do something, and it does not do it, but if say I have the sw set to mute, the exp pedal will trigger a mute, so what I am saying is it will act as the sw and not the pedal. Make sense?

that parameter lets you set a pedal(exp) and a switch (tap tempo) both at the same screen so.......

[birdie_in_texas]

Thanks man, I claim to be a bass player in the band I'm in.:p
I used my Ibanez SR500 > Mesa M6 Carbine post D.I. out > audio interface.
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n415/ccouch7/CRC%20BASS%20RIG%202011-12-21/2011-12-21CRCBASSRIG24.jpg?t=1324519664

May I break in here and ask about those cool blue lights in the rack..? Are they part of whatever unit that is? Or are they something added on..?

[lspaulsp]

G3 went to practice. So far so good. Went over well with the band.

[ccouch7]

May I break in here and ask about those cool blue lights in the rack..? Are they part of whatever unit that is? Or are they something added on..?

The blue lights are just leds usually used for computer modding, they're called lazer leds I think.
You can look at them @ superbrightleds.com
Here's a link to the build thread of the preamp selector. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/rack-preamp-selector-rehouse-build-827564/?highlight=rack+preamp+selector+build+rehouse

Sorry for the hi-jack:hide2, back to the G3.:)

[Henky]

OK guys, my G3 will not recognize my expresion pedal, and it takes the siganl as if it was a switch instead, meaning if I sweep up and down it will change the tempo, but whatever I set the expression pedal too it does not work. I have a feeling maybe I am misusing this? I always have it set on tap tempo, so it seems you jsut plug the expresion pedal in and set it to a parameter, but is there something you select to choose whether you are using a tap switch or expression pedal?
The G3 recognises an expression pedal when it has a 1/4 stereo jack, if you use a 1/4 mono jack, the G3 thinks you're using a switch.
Therefor you need an expression pedal with a stereo jack, if you're using the line 6 expression pedal for example which has a mono jack, it's never going to work.

[jerryratpack]

Henky, that van halen vid, is top notch ! YouTube may be contacting you for violations :-)

[TrickinSid]

The G3 recognises an expression pedal when it has a 1/4 stereo jack, if you use a 1/4 mono jack, the G3 thinks you're using a switch.
Therefor you need an expression pedal with a stereo jack, if you're using the line 6 expression pedal for example which has a mono jack, it's never going to work.

Thanks for the info Henky.....didn't know this.....appreciate.

[Gaetano Capuano]

The G3 recognises an expression pedal when it has a 1/4 stereo jack, if you use a 1/4 mono jack, the G3 thinks you're using a switch.
Therefor you need an expression pedal with a stereo jack, if you're using the line 6 expression pedal for example which has a mono jack, it's never going to work.
Ah yes this is what i am doing, what if I used a stereo cable?

[birdie_in_texas]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! :)

Hi-jackING OVER..:)


The blue lights are just leds usually used for computer modding, they're called lazer leds I think.
You can look at them @ superbrightleds.com
Here's a link to the build thread of the preamp selector. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/rack-preamp-selector-rehouse-build-827564/?highlight=rack+preamp+selector+build+rehouse

Sorry for the hi-jack:hide2, back to the G3.:)

[hamakas]

What is difference between analog delay and delay stompbox?

[stratchamp57]

Analog delay is warmer. Digital delay is clean.

[Gaetano Capuano]

Analog delay is warmer. Digital delay is clean.

Warmer, dirty, low fi, gritty, digital delay is basically the exact note/tone recreated, very sterile/digital ;)

Analog delay sits low in the mix and wont really compete with the original signal, making it great to add depth, warmth and movement to your tone. Digital delay will compete, and can even over power, original soignal so it sounds like another, louder guitar even. I love em both differently :omg :bonk

[fly135]

Ah yes this is what i am doing, what if I used a stereo cable?You need a pedal that is designed to use stereo. Another trick for a mono pedal is to use a stereo to mono Y cable. One mono goes into the input of the ex-pedal and the other into the output.

The G3 needs to see 3 things. The top of the pot, the ground, and the wiper of the pot. The input goes to the top of the pot, and the output goes to the wiper of the pot. Ground is common to both.

I use the $30 M-Audio EX-P.

[musikman]

You need a pedal that is designed to use stereo. Another trick for a mono pedal is to use a stereo to mono Y cable. One mono goes into the input of the ex-pedal and the other into the output.

The G3 needs to see 3 things. The top of the pot, the ground, and the wiper of the pot. The input goes to the top of the pot, and the output goes to the wiper of the pot. Ground is common to both.

I use the $30 M-Audio EX-P.

Do you recommennd the M-audio EXP for live use? is it roadworthy? Thanks.

[Gaetano Capuano]

Do you recommennd the M-audio EXP for live use? is it roadworthy? Thanks.

Yeah Fly thoughts?

[stratchamp57]

Here's another zoom g3 demo I recorded today. I hope you guys like it. :)
www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/in-the-clouds

[fly135]

Yeah Fly thoughts?It's pretty lightweight. I'll ask my buddy who's a gigging pro and has one, and see if it has found it dependable. It's not on his rig now, but perhaps it has been in the past.

[jay_ouch]

xWOZD-haE4A

Just messing around. It's a BG Drive with HW Stack cab + a touch of DLY+REV.

[Tonealicious]

That was sweet! Now more about that guitar...


xWOZD-haE4A

Just messing around. It's a BG Drive with HW Stack cab + a touch of DLY+REV.

[jay_ouch]

It's a 20 years old Yamaha YG1212 which I bought 2-3 years ago in NOS condition with the current pickups already put in. IIRC it has Duncan Alternative 8 bridge, Cool Rails neck and I forgot what the middle is. JB or 59 Junior I think.

[fly135]

It's pretty lightweight. I'll ask my buddy who's a gigging pro and has one, and see if it has found it dependable. It's not on his rig now, but perhaps it has been in the past.I asked him and he seemed to think it was fine, but didn't really have a strong opinion one way or the other.:huh

[Gaetano Capuano]

you can totally plug the G3 into a keyboard.

[Gaetano Capuano]

So I got the M-audio EXP. I am pleased with it for $30. Its so much lighter than keeping a Ernie Ball on my board. I talked to the guy at Sam Ash that I bought it from and he said he uses this exact pedal with his HOG, hes taken his current one on 2 tours and its still kicking. But these are the kind of pedals you buy, use till it breaks then buy another etc..........


Here is a pic of my rig for this weekend. I am much happier to have the EXP, set up as a volume pedal, than my heavy old EB volume.
http://guitarlessonssarasota.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IMG_1019-1024x638.jpg

[stratchamp57]

Anyone know how I can get a good tweed like tone from the g3(for example, tweed champ, tweed deluxe, etc..) I really miss the tweed tones from the rp.

[Gaetano Capuano]

Anyone know how I can get a good tweed like tone from the g3(for example, tweed champ, tweed deluxe, etc..) I really miss the tweed tones from the rp.

Could you post some links to songs that have great tweed tones?


Thanks

[stratchamp57]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXmreHo2LMg

Something like that.

[Rena Rune]

I've had my G3 since Christmas now.

I have to say my HD500 has got a worryingly low amount of use.

The G3 does Low-gain tones better, has high gain tones I like more too. The HD does mid-gain better, probably, though the Orange makes for a pretty good mid-gain tone.

The Vox still has a bit of crossover distortion when used for breakup tones. Is this what real AC30s are like? Seems hard to believe as that's the sound classically associated with them.

Some of the effects are really great but the lack of square wave in the synth is annoying. Luckily you can use the Octaver, but tracking is worse on that(I like glitchy synths, but it goes a bit overboard). It does sound cool though.

Lack of Octave fuzz also hurts it, and it'd be nice to get a proper Bass amp. It's not as w00my as the HD500, but that also means less low end.

I don't know what it is, but there's something about the overall sound of the device I really like. To me it sounds like the kind of guitar sounds I've been looking for, it sounds and feels right. I especially love the Tube control, there's something particularly sweet about how it feels when you turn it up high, and normally I'm not all that into tube compression. Of course this depends on the models - oddly I like to use it with Clean-ish tones. It gives the impression of a "perfectly" Clean amp pushed beyond it's limits and about to implode.

[stratchamp57]

That's some good info. Do you have any tips on how to get a good clean tone?

[stratchamp57]

Do you guys have a favorite cab model?

[Gaetano Capuano]

Do you guys have a favorite cab model?

Dang man you can change cab models too?

I have spent very little time with the amp model section of this unit :omg

[neastguy]

anyone wanna sell their G3? thought I'd ask...

[stratchamp57]

Dang man you can change cab models too?

I have spent very little time with the amp model section of this unit :omg

Yep, you can. :)

[stratchamp57]

anyone wanna sell their G3? thought I'd ask...

Right now, I kinda do, because I'm really struggling to get a good clean tone, and I miss a few things from my rp that I had, but the good out weighs the bad, IMO. :)

[Rena Rune]

Right now, I kinda do, because I'm really struggling to get a good clean tone, and I miss a few things from my rp that I had, but the good out weighs the bad, IMO. :)

Some of the amps don't do clean like they're supposed to. However, the Hiwatt and Vibroverb do and do it really well. Try those. It's weird how the AC30 model does pure cleans too with the gain all thee way back, but the Bassman doesn't, when the AC is meant to be higher gain/less headroom. The twin model is fine to me, but the Hiwatt is better for that kind of sound and requires less tweaking. The EQ is pretty interactive especially for a Zoom modeler, so it will take a while to sort it out.

[ElDiabloBlanco]

I had put my G3 aside for a few weeks and went back to using it the last couple of days. Lots of very impressive amp sounds. I think I could play an entire gig with just one patch - Vibroverb with delay after and the Gov'ner pedal in front for dirt as needed. I'm running it into a Power Engine so I guess the speaker helps as opposed to going direct to the board.

[birdie_in_texas]

anyone wanna sell their G3? thought I'd ask...


I sell you mine..it's broken..and I need $$ for a new one :(

[neastguy]

I sell you mine..it's broken..and I need $$ for a new one :(

ha, I decided just to order one from sweetwater.. comes w/ 2 year warranty

[Gaetano Capuano]

I sell you mine..it's broken..and I need $$ for a new one :(
Dude what happened?

[stratchamp57]

It stopped working.

[birdie_in_texas]

Yes..it just simply did not turn on one evening. I have tried pretty much everything, but it seems to just be completely dead. No email response back from Zoom yet..I think if I had a receipt or something I would be on better footing. I was sooo hoping it was just a bad power supply, but it works fine..:( No idea how/what/why.. :(

Oh well..my "luck" is holding it seems..

But I have to say, it was pretty awesome when it worked..! Light years ahead of my j-stations..

[Durango Kid]

Sorry if I missed this but I ran a quick search and didn't find the answer.

Has anyone powered a G3 off of a Sanyo Pedal Juice? I'm thinking of replacing my M13 with one of these on the back end of my pedal board and I'm really looking to minimize my power supply needs. If this will run off a Pedal Juice, I think it's a done deal.

[Gaetano Capuano]

I dont know what a pedal juice is, but I run my G3 right off a daisy chain, with 4 other pedals, off a visual sound one spot, no problem, also used a godlyke one spot "power all" thingy noo probs.............

[Durango Kid]

Well, that helps in terms of knowing my options and it leads me to believe that it would run off of Pedal Juice but I would still like to hear from someone who has tried it.

Thanks for your input.

[birdie_in_texas]

the back of the unit says 9V 500mah

that seems very common..I am sure it would..

[johnnymegabyte]

I sell you mine..it's broken..and I need $$ for a new one :(Is it not under warranty ?

[neastguy]

ok so I got my zoom g3.. seems pretty cool.. only spent maybe 5 minutes with it.. anyhow.. complete noob to loopers.. with this looper can you say play 8 bars of something and then make it instantly repeat itself and then start playing over it.. does this make sense.. for say a song like "what i got" play the two chords and the just keep it looping.. for live situations.. thanks..

[stratchamp57]

Yep, you can. To start recording, press the first switch and the precount will come up and on the downbeat of the drums, start playing, and when you're done, hit that switch again to stop recording, and then you can play over that loop.

[Gaetano Capuano]

ok so I got my zoom g3.. seems pretty cool.. only spent maybe 5 minutes with it.. anyhow.. complete noob to loopers.. with this looper can you say play 8 bars of something and then make it instantly repeat itself and then start playing over it.. does this make sense.. for say a song like "what i got" play the two chords and the just keep it looping.. for live situations.. thanks..

Yes :p

[neastguy]

another stupid question.. a patch is a set of 3 pedals right? so if I want a patch.. I could have .. one wah sound , one chorus , and one delay.. and have them all off when I switch to it? then I can have another patch of say... 3 different delay pedals? and these patches can be scrolled by your foot in a live settings... do I sound stupid?

[stratchamp57]

No, you're not stupid, you're just new to digital modeling devices. Yes, you can have any three effects in a patch.

[harm.on.x]

...I'm thinking of replacing my M13 with one of these on the back end of my pedal board and I'm really looking to minimize my power supply needs...

It needs less than 300mA. I asked zoom about the current draw specs and they emailed me back with this answer. I wanted to see if it's safe to daisy chain it with a couple of other pedals without frying my power supply. I have to say, they seem to have pretty good customer service.
The 500 mA in the manual is for the maximum output of the stock power adaptor.
I would be really surprised if your M13 needs less than that.

[neastguy]

what volume are you guys setting your global at when in the loop of an amp?

[fly135]

All amp loops can have different levels. So just knowing one person's settings without knowing the amp and it's loop specs won't help.

[radicalzz]

help can you post some usefull warm sounding rhythm OD & very nice metal sound? im not getting good dirts in my G3. .thanks

[madvek]

I picked mine up a couple of weeks ago. Very happy with the tones I'm getting, very usable cleaner tones. My only complaint is the lack of midi, but for $199 I can't complain. Here's a quick blues noodling with the Vibroverb a little reverb and delay, and a loop:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=844863&songID=11416416

[jay_ouch]

KpkRFxGpCDs

Me challenging Guthrie Govan's 'Fives' using the G3! Dist+ + FD Combo + ModDelay. The tone and playing could be better though...

[MusicalCircuitry]

I picked mine up a couple of weeks ago. Very happy with the tones I'm getting, very usable cleaner tones. My only complaint is the lack of midi, but for $199 I can't complain. Here's a quick blues noodling with the Vibroverb a little reverb and delay, and a loop:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=844863&songID=11416416
Very nice playing and tone! Any chance you could share the settings with us?

[stratchamp57]

Is there a way to get audio into an iPhone/iPad with the g3?

[Milo]

KpkRFxGpCDs

Me challenging Guthrie Govan's 'Fives' using the G3! Dist+ + FD Combo + ModDelay. The tone and playing could be better though...

Just awesome,jay. I love my G3.

[krueger]

I don't know if this guy's demos have been posted on this forum somewhere, but I think they are excellent and might warrant a re-post anyway. Made me pull the trigger today on one of these units.

And now comes that agonizing wait for new gear...

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[stratchamp57]

Yeah, my favorite was the Goosebump blues.

[Tonealicious]

I don't know if this guy's demos have been posted on this forum somewhere, but I think they are excellent and might warrant a re-post anyway. Made me pull the trigger today on one of these units.


That guy is Henky, and he posts here. In fact in this very thread. He really knows how to squeeze some sound of his gear! Plays too well if you ask me!:bonk

[krueger]

Yep, amazing stuff all of it. Just didn't want to wade through all pages of this thread and the others about the G3 to find them before I posted. It's getting late here in Sweden...

[stratchamp57]

Here's a little something I recorded today.


[url]Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/zoom-g3-test-4

[madvek]

Very nice playing and tone! Any chance you could share the settings with us?

Hey Thanks! Sure. I basically tweaked the "Wicked Game" patch. Not sure about the standard way of sharing patches but here is what I have:
L-R
Analog Delay
time almost maxed 3, f.b. 63 mix 22
hidmp 6 p-p level 100
Spring Reverb
decay 12 tone 1 mix 29
Pred 79 Level 64
FDVibro
Gain 45 Tube 84 Level 102 Treble 46 Mid 85 Bass 94 Prese 47 Cab vibro 2x10

'86 MIJ '57 RI Strat with Rumpelstiltskin vintage pups.

[krueger]

My G3 and the FP02 expression pedal is on the way from Thomann in Germany. Can't wait!

:sarcasm
Since I'm a Behringer/Bugera kind of guy I don't feel ashamed of adding a Zoom product to my arsenal of equipment by disrespected brands.

[stratchamp57]

Can someone please post their clean patches? I am having so much trouble getting good clean tones. I had no problem getting good clean tones with my rp355.

[musikman]

Guys,

Do you guys find that the G3 is more prone to emit hum? or ground noise? For some odd reason, mine does.. I don't know if its the level settings or what, but this doesn't happen with my Tonelab SE. If I disable all the patches on the G3 the hum does go down, but its there a bit. Once you enable the patches, the hum gets louder... any ideas??

By the way, sorry if this has been asked before, but how do you set your levels? I know there are three levels to mess with. One for each stomp and then the Patch level, and finally the entire output level. How do you guys set it?

[Rena Rune]

Guys,

Do you guys find that the G3 is more prone to emit hum? or ground noise? For some odd reason, mine does.. I don't know if its the level settings or what, but this doesn't happen with my Tonelab SE. If I disable all the patches on the G3 the hum does go down, but its there a bit. Once you enable the patches, the hum gets louder... any ideas??

By the way, sorry if this has been asked before, but how do you set your levels? I know there are three levels to mess with. One for each stomp and then the Patch level, and finally the entire output level. How do you guys set it?


if you plug it into USB that might ground it

[Gaetano Capuano]

THere is a hum when running bus power off usb, other wise none here.

[musikman]

Hmmmm.... Well, for example, the hum lowers bigtime if I lower say the amp level, and all the levels or Gain levels, but that is why I wonder how you guys are setting your levels, cause maybe I got the whole thing wrong.

For example, my levels are set to say in the 15-20's for each stomp, then the patch level is at 100, then the Global level is set at around 30 for playing live.

Now, when playing thru headphones, the global level is set at 75-100 but I find the hum is louder thru headphones than thru the amp...

[lspaulsp]

You can share patches here also. Area specific to the G3.

http://guitarpatches.com/patches.php?unit=g3

[Peeb]

THere is a hum when running bus power off usb, other wise none here.
Wow- with my noisy ac power, I thought that running usb power might help. Just the opposite, apparently!

[rsm]

My G3 and the FP02 expression pedal is on the way from Thomann in Germany. Can't wait!

:sarcasm
Since I'm a Behringer/Bugera kind of guy I don't feel ashamed of adding a Zoom product to my arsenal of equipment by disrespected brands.


Zoom fan/user here since the 9002 was released back in the day (still have it and it still works!) it will take awhile before they live down the low end / toy classification stigma, if ever as some will never take them seriously...

IMO the G3 is changing the opinions of many, at least here, on Zoom where there was little positive mention if at all.

in the end, gear is a means to an end to make the sounds in yer head... no such thing IMO as disrespected gear, just gear that works or does not work for you...sound-wise and budget-wise.

[krueger]

I agree wholeheartedly

[stratchamp57]

Anyone know how I can email zoom's customer support?

[Tigerfang]

Hey quick question for all you G3 users: when playing into headphones or straight into a PA system can you forgo an amp model and just use effects on your dry signal?

[fly135]

Without an amp model you forgo cabinet simulation, so YMMV as you how you think it sounds. The global output setting does filtering but IMO is not a speaker emulator and probably not intended to be one.

[HillbillySims]

Still loving my G3... it sounds unbelievable through my active JBL PRX612M... it just blows my mind that its a $199 pedal...

Anthony Sims
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www.reverbnation.com/TheHillbillySiNs (http://www.reverbnation.com/TheHillbillySiNs)

[Lution]

I unfortunately had to take my G3 off my board. I found that it did slightly affect my tone running through it. Not severely, but slightly enough for me to drop it to backup status. I have very little real estate space on my board as it is.

So, I'm looking into making it a solid backup to my main tube amp at gigs.

Has anyone tried their G3 into a 44 Magnum and into a guitar cab like a 2x12 or 4x12? Thoughts on how it sounded?

[Gaetano Capuano]

I unfortunately had to take my G3 off my board. I found that it did slightly affect my tone running through it. Not severely, but slightly enough for me to drop it to backup status. I have very little real estate space on my board as it is.

So, I'm looking into making it a solid backup to my main tube amp at gigs.

Has anyone tried their G3 into a 44 Magnum and into a guitar cab like a 2x12 or 4x12? Thoughts on how it sounded?

lolz :rotflmao :bonk

[Tigerfang]

Without an amp model you forgo cabinet simulation, so YMMV as you how you think it sounds. The global output setting does filtering but IMO is not a speaker emulator and probably not intended to be one.

Okay thanks for the clarification. It's worth a shot once I get mine I guess.

[Lution]

lolz :rotflmao :bonk

I guess i don't understand how this is funny. :huh

[guitarist58]

I guess i don't understand how this is funny. :huh

I'm confused too--sounds like a great idea for a backup rig to me! :)

_

[Peeb]

Hey quick question for all you G3 users: when playing into headphones or straight into a PA system can you forgo an amp model and just use effects on your dry signal?Sure. Just don't put an amp model in one of the 3 banks.

[krueger]

Just got my G3 and the FP02 footswitch delivered at work.

And now comes that agonizing wait for the work day to end...

[desdinova]

Has anyone tried their G3 into a 44 Magnum and into a guitar cab like a 2x12 or 4x12? Thoughts on how it sounded?

Yeap, into a 1X12" though. Works great!

[Lution]

Yeap, into a 1X12" though. Works great!


cool! What cab and speaker did you use? Did you turn off the cab modeling or keep it on? Thanks.

[Rod]

I unfortunately had to take my G3 off my board. I found that it did slightly affect my tone running through it. Not severely, but slightly enough for me to drop it to backup status. I have very little real estate space on my board as it is.

So, I'm looking into making it a solid backup to my main tube amp at gigs.

Has anyone tried their G3 into a 44 Magnum and into a guitar cab like a 2x12 or 4x12? Thoughts on how it sounded?

It does change the strait tone of the guitar. To solve this I run mine through a Toadworks bypass loop, just like my other FX... Works great that way

[desdinova]

cool! What cab and speaker did you use? Did you turn off the cab modeling or keep it on? Thanks.

Only used it for practice up to now, with several amp models, always with cab modeling on.

Another advantage of this setup is you can simoultaneously send the XLR out directly to the PA. And of course the practicality is unparalleled: you get to the gig with the guitar on your back, 1X12" on one hand, a small bag with G3, Magnum, cables, etc on the other, setup in minutes and you have plenty of time to talk to the girls. :p

[buddaman71]

Has anyone tried their G3 into a 44 Magnum and into a guitar cab like a 2x12 or 4x12? Thoughts on how it sounded?

The guitar shop in my hometown had one plugged into a .44 > 2 Mesa 112s and it was surprisingly stout.

[saneff]

Question: Just got the G3 yesterday and on a few of the distortion pedal models I get an incredibly loud feedback-like scream. It is really awful. I am ok once I switch off those pedals. What could that be?

[neastguy]

are you guys powering yours with a pp2? I have a fuel tank and it won't power it .. turns on and then turns off.. i

[krueger]

Hi!

Ok, so I got the G3 and the FP02 yesterday and got a chance to play with them for a few hours. Here's my initial reactions. A rather lengthy post, and some things might be old news for G3 users here. Hope some others find it interesting.

The Zoom G3 unit seems quite sturdy, the casing is metal and has decent weight and rubber feet that keeps it steady on the floor. The FP02 is a bit more flimsy, plastic and light-weight, but works.

The very first thing I did was to upgrade the firmware. No surprises there. I got the time-out error described in the manual the first time I tried, the second time it worked.

I also tried the USB-connection and the Edit and Share application. It worked without problems. The USB audio interface is quite basic but the Mac I have recognized it immediately. I had some problems getting a decent output level until I realized that you must have the master volume up at around 75, I couldn't raise the level of the input volume from inside the computer, I had to raise the master volume level on the G3. Monitoring with headphones into the G3 is impossible when recording (unless you want to blow your eardrums). A level of 10-15 I found comfortable with headphones, btw. I also struggled a bit first until I used the Mac's Audio/Midi setup and made Zoom G3 interface used for input (this is my first USB interface).

The sound with headphones is great. But I think that of my old V-Amp 2 also.

I went to my Bugera V22 (tube amp) and put it in front, with the corresponding Combo Front setting. The OD-pedals pushed the dirt channel quite nicely, better and more silently than my stand-alone Danelectro CoolCat Transparent Overdrive V2 that I normally use. Didn't really play much in this setting before I switched to the fx-return (again changing to the Combo Power Amp setting on the G3). I found the sound and feel of the MS Crunch (plexi) model that I got stuck on to be really good. It felt like an amp to me and cleaned up nicely with the volume on the guitar. I changed the footswitch to output volume. That way you can put the footswitch at about 75% for your rythm level and then push it all the way down for a boost on leads. It becomes almost a fourth "slot" when used that way. The default setting for the footswitch is input volume, but I rather use the volume pot on the guitar for that. Since the G3 is in the fx-loop and not affected by the master volume on the amp, you'd better get the G3 master level down to perhaps around 10 before rasing it to whatever maximum you need. If you have just been recording (with the level on 80 or something) and plug it in your fx-loop on a 100 W tube amp and start playing you will surely wake up the whole house :bonk

After the V22 I tried it on my second amp which is an old solid-state Roland Cube 60 made somewhere between 79 and 84. It has a main in which comes before it's master volume. Here I needed to use the master volume on the G3 to about the same levels as recording. Then I just put the master volume on the amp to the maximum level I needed. It became to noisy if I left the amps master on 100% and low on the G3. I found the resulting tone to be less convincing here, although usable. If and when I try the G3 with my band's PA I will try and use the Cube as my monitor and run the balanced connection to the PA. If it works it will be a more lightweight solution than bringing the Bugera as a plain monitor. I will try it through a powered full-range monitor also, since some report great results with that.

All in all this is a great unit, but I want to spend some more time with it before judging exactly how good it is sound and feel-wise. The first impressions I have are quite positive though. I think it will serve it's purpose as a nice practice and recording tool as well as an alternate rig. And for a great price!


/Fredrik

[krueger]

Still loving my G3... it sounds unbelievable through my active JBL PRX612M... it just blows my mind that its a $199 pedal...

Anthony Sims
www.facebook.com/TheHillbillySiNs (http://www.facebook.com/TheHillbillySiNs)
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Anyone try the G3 to a lower end active monitor?

[stratchamp57]

Hi!

Ok, so I got the G3 and the FP02 yesterday and got a chance to play with them for a few hours. Here's my initial reactions. A rather lengthy post, and some things might be old news for G3 users here. Hope some others find it interesting.

The Zoom G3 unit seems quite sturdy, the casing is metal and has decent weight and rubber feet that keeps it steady on the floor. The FP02 is a bit more flimsy, plastic and light-weight, but works.

The very first thing I did was to upgrade the firmware. No surprises there. I got the time-out error described in the manual the first time I tried, the second time it worked.

I also tried the USB-connection and the Edit and Share application. It worked without problems. The USB audio interface is quite basic but the Mac I have recognized it immediately. I had some problems getting a decent output level until I realized that you must have the master volume up at around 75, I couldn't raise the level of the input volume from inside the computer, I had to raise the master volume level on the G3. Monitoring with headphones into the G3 is impossible when recording (unless you want to blow your eardrums). A level of 10-15 I found comfortable with headphones, btw. I also struggled a bit first until I used the Mac's Audio/Midi setup and made Zoom G3 interface used for input (this is my first USB interface).

The sound with headphones is great. But I think that of my old V-Amp 2 also.

I went to my Bugera V22 (tube amp) and put it in front, with the corresponding Combo Front setting. The OD-pedals pushed the dirt channel quite nicely, better and more silently than my stand-alone Danelectro CoolCat Transparent Overdrive V2 that I normally use. Didn't really play much in this setting before I switched to the fx-return (again changing to the Combo Power Amp setting on the G3). I found the sound and feel of the MS Crunch (plexi) model that I got stuck on to be really good. It felt like an amp to me and cleaned up nicely with the volume on the guitar. I changed the footswitch to output volume. That way you can put the footswitch at about 75% for your rythm level and then push it all the way down for a boost on leads. It becomes almost a fourth "slot" when used that way. The default setting for the footswitch is input volume, but I rather use the volume pot on the guitar for that. Since the G3 is in the fx-loop and not affected by the master volume on the amp, you'd better get the G3 master level down to perhaps around 10 before rasing it to whatever maximum you need. If you have just been recording (with the level on 80 or something) and plug it in your fx-loop on a 100 W tube amp and start playing you will surely wake up the whole house :bonk

After the V22 I tried it on my second amp which is an old solid-state Roland Cube 60 made somewhere between 79 and 84. It has a main in which comes before it's master volume. Here I needed to use the master volume on the G3 to about the same levels as recording. Then I just put the master volume on the amp to the maximum level I needed. It became to noisy if I left the amps master on 100% and low on the G3. I found the resulting tone to be less convincing here, although usable. If and when I try the G3 with my band's PA I will try and use the Cube as my monitor and run the balanced connection to the PA. If it works it will be a more lightweight solution than bringing the Bugera as a plain monitor. I will try it through a powered full-range monitor also, since some report great results with that.

All in all this is a great unit, but I want to spend some more time with it before judging exactly how good it is sound and feel-wise. The first impressions I have are quite positive though. I think it will serve it's purpose as a nice practice and recording tool as well as an alternate rig. And for a great price!


/Fredrik

Hey, thanks for the review. :)

I also love the ms crunch model. Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/zoom-g3-dynamics.

[neastguy]

Hi!

Ok, so I got the G3 and the FP02 yesterday and got a chance to play with them for a few hours. Here's my initial reactions. A rather lengthy post, and some things might be old news for G3 users here. Hope some others find it interesting.

The Zoom G3 unit seems quite sturdy, the casing is metal and has decent weight and rubber feet that keeps it steady on the floor. The FP02 is a bit more flimsy, plastic and light-weight, but works.

The very first thing I did was to upgrade the firmware. No surprises there. I got the time-out error described in the manual the first time I tried, the second time it worked.

I also tried the USB-connection and the Edit and Share application. It worked without problems. The USB audio interface is quite basic but the Mac I have recognized it immediately. I had some problems getting a decent output level until I realized that you must have the master volume up at around 75, I couldn't raise the level of the input volume from inside the computer, I had to raise the master volume level on the G3. Monitoring with headphones into the G3 is impossible when recording (unless you want to blow your eardrums). A level of 10-15 I found comfortable with headphones, btw. I also struggled a bit first until I used the Mac's Audio/Midi setup and made Zoom G3 interface used for input (this is my first USB interface).

The sound with headphones is great. But I think that of my old V-Amp 2 also.

I went to my Bugera V22 (tube amp) and put it in front, with the corresponding Combo Front setting. The OD-pedals pushed the dirt channel quite nicely, better and more silently than my stand-alone Danelectro CoolCat Transparent Overdrive V2 that I normally use. Didn't really play much in this setting before I switched to the fx-return (again changing to the Combo Power Amp setting on the G3). I found the sound and feel of the MS Crunch (plexi) model that I got stuck on to be really good. It felt like an amp to me and cleaned up nicely with the volume on the guitar. I changed the footswitch to output volume. That way you can put the footswitch at about 75% for your rythm level and then push it all the way down for a boost on leads. It becomes almost a fourth "slot" when used that way. The default setting for the footswitch is input volume, but I rather use the volume pot on the guitar for that. Since the G3 is in the fx-loop and not affected by the master volume on the amp, you'd better get the G3 master level down to perhaps around 10 before rasing it to whatever maximum you need. If you have just been recording (with the level on 80 or something) and plug it in your fx-loop on a 100 W tube amp and start playing you will surely wake up the whole house :bonk

After the V22 I tried it on my second amp which is an old solid-state Roland Cube 60 made somewhere between 79 and 84. It has a main in which comes before it's master volume. Here I needed to use the master volume on the G3 to about the same levels as recording. Then I just put the master volume on the amp to the maximum level I needed. It became to noisy if I left the amps master on 100% and low on the G3. I found the resulting tone to be less convincing here, although usable. If and when I try the G3 with my band's PA I will try and use the Cube as my monitor and run the balanced connection to the PA. If it works it will be a more lightweight solution than bringing the Bugera as a plain monitor. I will try it through a powered full-range monitor also, since some report great results with that.

All in all this is a great unit, but I want to spend some more time with it before judging exactly how good it is sound and feel-wise. The first impressions I have are quite positive though. I think it will serve it's purpose as a nice practice and recording tool as well as an alternate rig. And for a great price!


/Fredrik

I tried updating my firmware.. but when I hold down the two patch buttons and power up.. its doesn't go into an upgrade mode.. am I missing something?

[stratchamp57]

I tried updating my firmware.. but when I hold down the two patch buttons and power up.. its doesn't go into an upgrade mode.. am I missing something?

You're doing it wrong. Hold the two patch buttons while connecting it via USB to the computer and the g3 will power on and the update screen will come up.

[Lution]

fyi, I have a 44 Magnum showing up sometime today. I'll try it later tonight with my G3 into it and into a 1x12 with a V30 and my 2x12 with Scumback M75s.


Regarding the sofware update, what does the new update cover?

[TrickinSid]

I tried updating my firmware.. but when I hold down the two patch buttons and power up.. its doesn't go into an upgrade mode.. am I missing something?

Are you holding down on the patch select buttons?

The buttons...not the switches. :)

[fly135]

Anyone try the G3 to a lower end active monitor?Yes

[krueger]

fyi, I have a 44 Magnum showing up sometime today. I'll try it later tonight with my G3 into it and into a 1x12 with a V30 and my 2x12 with Scumback M75s.


Regarding the sofware update, what does the new update cover?

That sounds interesting! I have the Bugera 2x12 which can run 2x70 w stereo. A pedal board with two of those Magnums and the G3 would be a cool combination I think.

The software update doesn't have anything to do with the sound of the G3, here's from their release note document found on the main Zoom site

Version 1.12
・ Released as following function update and bug fix on December 2011 1. Sometimes initialized parameter of expression pedal that set at powerd on. 2. Added the LCD contrast menu.

Version 1.00
・ Released as mass production on May 2011

[krueger]

Hey, thanks for the review. :)

I also love the ms crunch model. Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/zoom-g3-dynamics (http://Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/zoom-g3-dynamics).

Nice demo of the dynamics. It really demonstrates what you can expect sound-wise just by twisting the knobs.

Using the volume knob is the most important part of any "effect" I have in my playing, it's good that the G3 really responds well to this.

[krueger]

Yes

Which model, and how did it sound? I searched some of your posts in this thread but didn't find any info...

[stratchamp57]

Nice demo of the dynamics. It really demonstrates what you can expect sound-wise just by twisting the knobs.

Using the volume knob is the most important part of any "effect" I have in my playing, it's good that the G3 really responds well to this.

Thanks for the listen, it's much appreciated. :)

[neastguy]

Are you holding down on the patch select buttons?

The buttons...not the switches. :)


lol... .that must be it, what an idiot I am....... I was thinking to myself.. this is a pain to try to hold down these two switches and plug in the usb.... lol.. thats got to be it... thanks:bonk

[krueger]

Question: Just got the G3 yesterday and on a few of the distortion pedal models I get an incredibly loud feedback-like scream. It is really awful. I am ok once I switch off those pedals. What could that be?

Perhaps try a factory restore to make sure all the levels are at factory settings?

See page 31 in the manual.

I also got mine recently but haven't seen this phenomenon...

[fly135]

Which model, and how did it sound? I searched some of your posts in this thread but didn't find any info...Right now I'm playing through a standard audio power amp and a pair of Yamaha home audio speakers. Sounds great. I decided to stop using my guitar amp and starting using a home stereo so I could hear the settings as it would sound recorded.

I'd like to get a set of beefier speakers because some of the loud bass notes will get the cones to rattle.

[krueger]

Right now I'm playing through a standard audio power amp and a pair of Yamaha home audio speakers. Sounds great. I decided to stop using my guitar amp and starting using a home stereo so I could hear the settings as it would sound recorded.

I'd like to get a set of beefier speakers because some of the loud bass notes will get the cones to rattle.

Ok, I might try this on my 5.1 system at home. Don't wanna bring it to gigs though :)

[Gaetano Capuano]

Question: Just got the G3 yesterday and on a few of the distortion pedal models I get an incredibly loud feedback-like scream. It is really awful. I am ok once I switch off those pedals. What could that be?

Hey man, those are the levels on your gain, probly distortion pedals or amp models doing this right?
Anyways turn the levels down and find your unity gain place :rotflmao

[krueger]

Back to the eighties with the Zoom G3...

IEwirQkM9Q4

/Fredrik

[stratchamp57]

Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/loop-the-loop

[Gaetano Capuano]

Back to the eighties with the Zoom G3...

IEwirQkM9Q4

/Fredrik

Dude what kind of guitar are you playing there?

[TrickinSid]

lol... .that must be it, what an idiot I am....... I was thinking to myself.. this is a pain to try to hold down these two switches and plug in the usb.... lol.. thats got to be it... thanks:bonk

If your an idiot....so am I.......I did the same thing, that's how I knew...ha.

I was like............man, this is a pain holding these switches down.

BUT.........in OUR defense, that's sorta how it reads in the manual.

at least.....that's my story and I am....sticking to it. :D

[krueger]

Dude what kind of guitar are you playing there?

It's a Woodo GTC1 Ebony from Woodo Guitars of Sweden. They are made in South-Korea and essentially branded and set-up here. It's basically a telecaster with un-orthodox features such as neck-thru and materials like ebony fingerboard, ebony top, mahogany body and a nato neck. I think of it as a shred-friendly telecaster ;)

http://www.woodoguitars.se/Product%20Images/Bilder%20350%20x%2093/Woodo%20GTC1%20Ebony%20Front.jpg
http://www.woodoguitars.se/Product%20Images/Bilder%20350%20x%2093/Woodo%20GTC1%20Ebony%20Rear.jpg

I like it a lot, for some reason they are not carrying this model anymore.

[Dr Git]

Sounded fantastic. Is this your own backing track?


Back to the eighties with the Zoom G3...

IEwirQkM9Q4

/Fredrik

[krueger]

Sounded fantastic. Is this your own backing track?

Thanks!

The backing track comes from http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/

I really dig the Soundflower software for Mac. With that I can play the backing track directly on the web and play the guitar through GarageBand with the Zoom G3, and still capture the whole mix in real-time into the video recording with Quicktime Player. I find the latency to be really acceptable also.

[Gaetano Capuano]

It's a Woodo GTC1 Ebony from Woodo Guitars of Sweden. They are made in South-Korea and essentially branded and set-up here. It's basically a telecaster with un-orthodox features such as neck-thru and materials like ebony fingerboard, ebony top, mahogany body and a nato neck. I think of it as a shred-friendly telecaster ;)

http://www.woodoguitars.se/Product%20Images/Bilder%20350%20x%2093/Woodo%20GTC1%20Ebony%20Front.jpg
http://www.woodoguitars.se/Product%20Images/Bilder%20350%20x%2093/Woodo%20GTC1%20Ebony%20Rear.jpg

I like it a lot, for some reason they are not carrying this model anymore.

Yeah dude I have the American equivalent, ptobably made in the same factory, boy do I love it, so smooth, such great tone, I put in some real vintage output alnico pups and the sound is incredible. Here is a vid with it in it.http://youtu.be/7m_HFdXbuqshttp://youtu.be/7m_HFdXbuqs

[johnnymegabyte]

Right now I'm playing through a standard audio power amp and a pair of Yamaha home audio speakers. Sounds great. I decided to stop using my guitar amp and starting using a home stereo so I could hear the settings as it would sound recorded.

I'd like to get a set of beefier speakers because some of the loud bass notes will get the cones to rattle.
I normally use a Roland Jazz Chorus JC-77 (80 watts) all around (with G3 and/or G7), but in the last month at home, been plugging into my home setup / mixer which I am using a 80 watts per channel Sansui receiver into a pair of Yorkville YX15 (paid $255 each). Wish I could bring this out to the gigs & Sunday night jam.

Oh so nice sounding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4R8ax5nWzU

I've ordered a Tech 21 Power Engine to replace the JC-77. 60 watts & 12" Celestion Seventy 80

[Peeb]

Back to the eighties with the Zoom G3...

IEwirQkM9Q4

/Fredrik
I was totally into trying that until I hit the 2:53 mark. That's where your talent level hit the after-burners and left me in the dust!

Nicely played.

[fly135]

I normally use a Roland Jazz Chorus JC-77 (80 watts) all around (with G3 and/or G7), but in the last month at home, been plugging into my home setup / mixer which I am using a 80 watts per channel Sansui receiver into a pair of Yorkville YX15 (paid $255 each).If i had a set of speakers like that, I'd be set. I have the my mixer running into a 2 channel 100/ch watt class AA Technics VC-4 poweramp. It's a hand me down from my boss that collects way too much audiophile gear.:phones

[blesscurse]

What noise gate(s) do you normally use?

Back to the eighties with the Zoom G3...

IEwirQkM9Q4

/Fredrik

[stratchamp57]

Here's a tweed bassman tone I made using the g3.
Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/zoom-g3-test-5

[krueger]

I was totally into trying that until I hit the 2:53 mark. That's where your talent level hit the after-burners and left me in the dust!

Nicely played.

Thanks!

I get a such kick out of this song. I guess it's the memories from that time...

[krueger]

What noise gate(s) do you normally use?

To be honest I have next to no experience with noise gates. But, I'll definitely think that Zoom should have put a global one in the G3. If I will record something I think I will try what's available in the DAW (in my case GarageBand). For live use I think I can live without it.

[Lution]

fyi, I have a 44 Magnum showing up sometime today. I'll try it later tonight with my G3 into it and into a 1x12 with a V30 and my 2x12 with Scumback M75s.


Regarding the sofware update, what does the new update cover?

My 44 Magnum arrived and I put it through its paces this morning and afternoon running my G3 into it and into my 1x12 V30 and 2x12 Scumbacks.

While it doesn't come even close to the quality tone I'm getting from my 5150 III, it should do fine as an emergency backup rig if my 5150 III goes down or for a quick grab-n-go rig. The tones were okay, no real wow-factor, but this combination is easily loud enough to handle a gig. I had to really attenuate the treble and presence on all patches to get them all to sound warm enough. I felt the patches sounded more real with the cabs off.

[Gaetano Capuano]

The tones were okay, no real wow-factor, but this combination is easily loud enough to handle a gig. I had to really attenuate the treble and presence on all patches to get them all to sound warm enough. I felt the patches sounded more real with the cabs off.

Interesting, I guess when running them into a cab its a good thing to disable cab sims. I bet a analog tube pedal of some sort, EHX 2ube or something, would really warm up that situation ;)

[ElDiabloBlanco]

I think it depends on the whole rig - for example, into a Power Engine, it sounds better with the cab sims ( certain ones, others sound like a blanket over the tone) on - that's a more flat response speaker.
I ran my G3 through decent headphones tonight for the first time and I now see where some users were having a tough time getting a warm clean tone going direct - again, going through a speaker such as the Power Engine adds the "moving speaker'" factor which creates a more harmonically rich sound.

[stratchamp57]

I think it depends on the whole rig - for example, into a Power Engine, it sounds better with the cab sims ( certain ones, others sound like a blanket over the tone) on - that's a more flat response speaker.
I ran my G3 through decent headphones tonight for the first time and I now see where some users were having a tough time getting a warm clean tone going direct - again, going through a speaker such as the Power Engine adds the "moving speaker'" factor which creates a more harmonically rich sound.

I've actually been getting some very nice clean tones using headphones.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1030822

[Rena Rune]

Back to the eighties with the Zoom G3...

IEwirQkM9Q4

/Fredrik

That's great, what Amp model did you use? No JCM800 in the box.

[ElDiabloBlanco]

I've actually been getting some very nice clean tones using headphones.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1030822


Yeah, I was able to get it sounding pretty good with some work also- the Vibro model works well for this. I just think it's easier to get a warmer clean sound with more punch going into a guitar speaker rather than direct with the unit - that's probably true of most modelers.

[Keasley]

Just picked up a G3 this week. Digging it so far. At boot up I see that I'm running version 1.00 and there is a firmware update on the Zoom site.

Is this update recommneded and what does it offer?

It might seem like a dumb question. With most devices, the latest firmware is the way to go. But sometimes it's a downgrade, so I'm checking here before taking the plunge.

thanks.

[Peeb]

Oddly, I get better high-gain tones from my podxt thru headphones, but the zoom slays the pod when plugged into the front end of my fender amp.

Bottom line- the zoom one a terrific piece of gear that was well worth the price of admission. I'd give up the pod before I have up my g3.

[stratchamp57]

Just picked up a G3 this week. Digging it so far. At boot up I see that I'm running version 1.00 and there is a firmware update on the Zoom site.

Is this update recommneded and what does it offer?

It might seem like a dumb question. With most devices, the latest firmware is the way to go. But sometimes it's a downgrade, so I'm checking here before taking the plunge.

thanks.

Nohing special, just some but fixes and a contrast screen.

[krueger]

That's great, what Amp model did you use? No JCM800 in the box.

It's the Ms Drive model

Zoom G3 settings

Pos 1: Overdrive (Gain: 20, Tone: 53, Level: 100)
Pos 2: Ms Drive (Gain: 65, Tube: 100, Level: 36, Tr: 80, Mid: 90, Bass: 80, Pres: 50, Cab: Ms Drive 4x12)
Pos 3: AnalogDly (Time: 360, F.B: 35, Mix: 54, HiDMP: 8, P-P, Level: 100)

[stratchamp57]

Nice job, Krueger. That's a beautiful song and you played it very well. :aok

[krueger]

Nice job, Krueger. That's a beautiful song and you played it very well. :aok

Thanks!

[neastguy]

I think I've decided to return my G3 and wait for the G5.. then I can completely get rid of my pedal board and just carry that around...

[Lution]

I placed the G3 in my 5150 III effects loop and dialed up just some delay and verb. It works very well in this capacity. I think this little unit just knocked off my G Sharp.

[Gaetano Capuano]

I placed the G3 in my 5150 III effects loop and dialed up just some delay and verb. It works very well in this capacity. I think this little unit just knocked off my G Sharp.

Yeah I see this unit as a G-Sharp killer if your not locked into midi........

[SeeMoore]

I placed the G3 in my 5150 III effects loop and dialed up just some delay and verb. It works very well in this capacity. I think this little unit just knocked off my G Sharp.

Thats a good way to go for sure, also using amp models in the FX return works great.
I played a gig Saturday night with just MS Crunch, T Scream and Analog DLY going into my VHT 12/20 FX return and it pretty much handled the whole show.

[photone]

I' m thinking to buy a expression pedal for G3 ( Boss FV-500 L). I have a footswitch for tap,mute,hold functions ( mostly for delays) but because it is not possible to use togheter, a footswitch and expression pedal in same time, I don't know which will be more "important" . I know ,there are more functions for expression pedal, but I don't know if I can assign on a patch, different parameters for all 3 effects same time..:huh
What do you use more with G3, a footswich or expression pedal? :hide

I understand ( from another thread) that G3 are some midi capabilities. If it possible to assign functions like patch changing,tap function or even expression pedal functions ,then maybe, for ex. a Behringer FCB1010 midi footcontroller, could be a good alternative . Somebody tried that?

[Gaetano Capuano]

I dont think it will do all that stuff you listed above, and you can only assign the expresion pedal to do one thing per patch. I have done exp and sw, and I am sticking with sw for what I use the G3 for, this way you can set whatever you like to tap tempo, ie 3 delays, trem etc, anything time based can sync up.

[Tigerfang]

Hey has anybody here found a nice jazzy clean sound? I've had my G3 for a few days and can't seem to get one to my satisfaction. Other than that however I've been very pleased with it.

[fly135]

Hey has anybody here found a nice jazzy clean sound?Nope, not here.

[stratchamp57]

I wouldn't call this jazz clean but it's a good clean tone IMO.


http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1030822

[spiral]

Hey has anybody here found a nice jazzy clean sound? I've had my G3 for a few days and can't seem to get one to my satisfaction. Other than that however I've been very pleased with it.

No. That was the very reason i sold mine. I have a guitar with TV Jones Magnatrons and another with P90's both with flatwounds (Chromes and DR Legend) and it always sounded like a direct guitar.

One thing i can suggest is try using more overdrive and compression than you might think you need. Tube amps do have compression and distortion that contribute to the sound that i personally like—more than i ever thought. If you are Polytone / Aer guy i can't help you there.

[stratchamp57]

And here's a bassman on the edge of breakup.

Www.soundcloud.com/kutlessfromug/zoom-g3-test-5

[Tigerfang]

Hmm alright well that's a bit disheartening. I've been having some success using the acoustic amp sim with the top all the way down and body all the way up, but it needs a bit of tweaking. Hopefully I can make something work because that's my main sound.

[Henky]

I' m thinking to buy a expression pedal for G3 ( Boss FV-500 L). I have a footswitch for tap,mute,hold functions ( mostly for delays) but because it is not possible to use togheter, a footswitch and expression pedal in same time, I don't know which will be more "important" . I know ,there are more functions for expression pedal, but I don't know if I can assign on a patch, different parameters for all 3 effects same time..:huh
What do you use more with G3, a footswich or expression pedal? :hide

I understand ( from another thread) that G3 are some midi capabilities. If it possible to assign functions like patch changing,tap function or even expression pedal functions ,then maybe, for ex. a Behringer FCB1010 midi footcontroller, could be a good alternative . Somebody tried that?
Actually this is really possible with the midi capabilities.
Besides the program changes i found out there are 4 CC's mapped.
The switch, expression, mute and bypass can all be controlled individually by midi at the same time.
So the FCB1010 would be nice allthough you can still of course only use one of the two expression pedals of the FCB1010 because you can only assign one pedal.
The MIDI is mapped to how you assigned the normal switch and expression pedal which means you can assign different things per patch.
But you sure can use the footswitch function and expression pedal together at the same time when you use the MIDI trick.

[hte_roadrunner]

Hi. Anyone noticed that the sound is cut for an instant when you turn an effect on and off? I'm not talking about the spillover. Try running a delay after a distorted amp sim, and turn the delay on and off while you are playing, you'll notice a click and for an instance there is no signal. Very annoying for live usage. Not all effects do this, but most do.

[photone]

Actually this is really possible with the midi capabilities.
Besides the program changes i found out there are 4 CC's mapped.
The switch, expression, mute and bypass can all be controlled individually by midi at the same time.
So the FCB1010 would be nice allthough you can still of course only use one of the two expression pedals of the FCB1010 because you can only assign one pedal.
The MIDI is mapped to how you assigned the normal switch and expression pedal which means you can assign different things per patch.
But you sure can use the footswitch function and expression pedal together at the same time when you use the MIDI trick.
.. now that's a very cool thing to know,thank you :)
now remain to learn the "midi thing" for G3:huh
Anyway, why ZOOM don't tell a word in user manual about this? :Spank

[Lution]

Hi. Anyone noticed that the sound is cut for an instant when you turn an effect on and off? I'm not talking about the spillover. Try running a delay after a distorted amp sim, and turn the delay on and off while you are playing, you'll notice a click and for an instance there is no signal. Very annoying for live usage. Not all effects do this, but most do.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It probably would not be noticeable in a gig situation, but it is alone.

[Henky]

.. now that's a very cool thing to know,thank you :)
now remain to learn the "midi thing" for G3:huh
Anyway, why ZOOM don't tell a word in user manual about this? :Spank
The thing is that they use MIDI over USB to "talk" with the "Edit & Share" software.
Zoom only used MIDI as a communication protocol, they could have used something different but i guess it was the easiest way to send data to and from the software.
Zoom is not the first with an editor that communicates by the use of MIDI in fact almost all editors work that way even the AXE-EDIT I'm sure.
Zoom just never thought anybody would want to use MIDI and as i said it is there to communicate with the software not for midi footcontrollers or something.

However the MIDI is send over USB which means that if you want to connect a regular MIDI footcontroller you got to have an interface that interfaces between the USB and MIDI DIN.
Now the tricky part is that this interface has to be a USB host just like your computer and regular MIDI to USB interfaces are slaves.
So you have 2 options:
Use a computer or a special MIDI interface with a USB host and there are currently only 2 MIDI interfaces, that I know of, with a USB host.
The iConnectMidi is one of them and I've got one and it's working great with the G3 right out of the box.

[photone]

Zoom just never thought anybody would want to use MIDI and as i said it is there to communicate with the software not for midi footcontrollers or something.
.. I'm sure there are many potential G3 buyers who losed they interest
only becouse there is no direct midi, especially when there no posibility to use a expession pedal and footswich at same time. Don't know why users must find other solutions to make that unit more competitive, when ZOOM have all the capacity to do that?:huh
..or maybe with a new firmware?:hide2 ,but I'm realy sceptical about a new firmware from Zoom with new added functions beside some bug fixes.

[Gaetano Capuano]

Actually this is really possible with the midi capabilities.
Besides the program changes i found out there are 4 CC's mapped.
The switch, expression, mute and bypass can all be controlled individually by midi at the same time.
So the FCB1010 would be nice allthough you can still of course only use one of the two expression pedals of the FCB1010 because you can only assign one pedal.
The MIDI is mapped to how you assigned the normal switch and expression pedal which means you can assign different things per patch.
But you sure can use the footswitch function and expression pedal together at the same time when you use the MIDI trick.
SERIOUS? :huh I better open the manual again...........

[Henky]

SERIOUS? :huh I better open the manual again...........
That won't bring you much as it's definitely not in there.

[dhbret]

Is it possible to use both a switch (Boss fs-5u) for tap tempo and an expression pedal if you use an A-B switch going in to the control input? Not simultaneously, but one at a time depending on the need. BTW this midi stuff is excellent. Thanks for all the info.
Bret

[krueger]

Hey has anybody here found a nice jazzy clean sound? I've had my G3 for a few days and can't seem to get one to my satisfaction. Other than that however I've been very pleased with it.

The amps and dirt-pedals are very gainy and quite trebly. Fortunately you can twist the knobs counter-clockwise to remedy this without things going too muddy.

I'm playing with all of the amp models and I find it's better to reduce the gain alot when finding the sound you like. If you want clean perhaps 0 is the way to go at first. The tube knob (is that the Sigmoid Curve Clipper thing??) adds compression which gives the sound more body without getting much dirtier. I also reduce treble to 25-40, middle up to 70-80, bass at 50, presence 25-50 perhaps. I think the Vibro sounded pretty jazzy yesterday with settings like this. It doesn't need much on the gain level to become dirty though...

[Henky]

Is it possible to use both a switch (Boss fs-5u) for tap tempo and an expression pedal if you use an A-B switch going in to the control input? Not simultaneously, but one at a time depending on the need. BTW this midi stuff is excellent. Thanks for all the info.
Bret
The G3 recognizes a switch or expression pedal by the kind of jack you plug into the control input.
Mono 1/4 jack = switch
Stereo 1/4 jack = expression pedal
So in theory if you would have some kind of switch that would short circuit ground with the right channel stereo ring the G3 should think a switch is connected and otherwise an expression pedal.
You might need to create/wire such an A-B switch yourself but it sure looks like somthing that could be done.

[Gaetano Capuano]

That won't bring you much as it's definitely not in there.

So if its not in the manual how do you work it/figure it out? Midi is complicated no?
How did you learn of this hidden midi capability?

[lspaulsp]

I almost didn't get it because of the midi issue it might not be the best $200 I've spent but I have found uses for it. I don't see it replacing anything yet. Am I blown away? No. The acoustic sim is cool.

[Henky]

So if its not in the manual how do you work it/figure it out? Midi is complicated no?
How did you learn of this hidden midi capability?
Well as i said all major editors like x-edit for the GSP1101 etc etc use MIDI for communication with the unit.
So in case of the G3, it's there to communicate with the "edit & share" editor.
And if they do it according to the GM standard it's easy to use it for other purposes.
MIDI is not complicated, you can't go wrong with program (patch) changes.
To check if there are CC messages mapped (for the expression pedal etc) is another story as there are 127 of them and you have to check them all.

However I'm not the only one who noticed the hidden midi capability:
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[Gaetano Capuano]

cool, it looks like he was hooked up midi pedal>uno>Computer>g3 usb. Why would he not just plug the uno directly into the G3? Or am I missing it.......

[spiral]

cool, it looks like he was hooked up midi pedal>uno>Computer>g3 usb. Why would he not just plug the uno directly into the G3? Or am I missing it.......The G3 isn't a USB host.

[musikman]

Well, guys, I finally used the G3 in a worship service setting without my Tonelab SE.
Simple easy to carry setup for a Men's bible study night. I was truly amazed at the sound this little baby put out. Seriously! I thought I was going to be dissapointed as I have grown to love my Dumble amp in the TLSE.

Here is what I had on my little pedalboard:

Zoom G1n EXT>Ernie Ball Vol Pedal>Zoom G3> Fender Blues Deluxe (going thru Amp Return)

This simple yet awesome sounding setup did the job man. The guys in the band were really amazed at how great it sounded. I was amazed too that the G1n sounded so nice too.

Here what I had as patches:

On the G1n Ext I had enabled Comp Module at C1 and EQ module (three band), for Drive I had the OD set at basically Zero, but even at zero it sounded awesome!, then the ZNR module, I had it setup at C1, which I think its noise reduction with a closed amp cab setting.
On the G3, I had on module one Vibe, which I didnt use, second I had the Two Rock amp with VX speakers, and last the Tape Delay effect.

Was there a WOW factor? Definitely YES! specially when my acoustic player heard me first strum, he was like, wow! man, that little guy sounds awesome. I know that the combination of the G1n and the G3 produced this amazing crisp and boutique sounding amp. Seriously, I am considering selling my Tonelab now. Only thing I miss is the expression pedal which I think I will endup getting. But, that will force me to get a bigger board as right now with the SKB PS8 board, I can only fit the G3, G1n and the Ernie Ball Vol pedal all side by side.

Well, guys, I just wanted to share that the G3 does hold its own. I think it really makes a huge difference on what amp and how you hook up your G3.

One thing that I did notice is that the Ernie Ball volume pedal, does suck up the treble a bit. Not too much, but it is definitely noticeable and you have to compensate for the loss by giving some more EQ either on the amp module or the EQ module. I chose to increase it on the EQ module instead.

I was even considering buyng a used Jekyll & Hyde pedal to put before the Volume pedal instead of the G1n, but that little $49 dollar pedal (Zoom G1n EXT) really holds its own too, and for $49 bucks, man, I am getting four modules. Compressor, EQ, OD, and Noise Reduction with Cab simulation.

I just wanted to share this with you guys out there on the fence about using your G3 with your pedal board.

Honestly, I think if you find three great stomps in the G3, two alone, are worth the price of the unit. I have found three for sure. I really love the Vibe unit, the Two Rock amp, and the Delays are smooth and buttery, truly amazing!!!!

Only thing, is that the Tuner is a bit too sensitive. I had the G3 hooked up the other day with my Tonelab and put both in tuner mode. The Tonelab didn't flicker at all while I tuned, while the G3 did flicker a bit more and had me more unsure about whether I was really tuned. But in the end, both did get my guitar tuned perfectly. It's a small annoyance more than anything but gets the job done. I think a work around is if you compress the sound before going to the tuner it helps the G3 not flicker as much while in tuner mode.

All in all, i think I have really found a great setup. I don't change patches too much while i play, and the patch changing issue with the G3 doesnt really bother me, althought it's something Zoom should really improve.

What I did, was to create on the Zoom G1n a patch that more or less is clean compressed and EQ'ed just right and another exact same patch, but with Overdrive added for crunching more. I might still get the Jeckyll and Hyde, but I might be overdoing it. I kind of would love to get the Expression pedal, to be able to keep the same patch and use the pedal to control the Overdrive level instead of having to switch patches, this way, I can have two patches next to each other completely different. At least for worship, have an acoustic Sim patch in case I don't have an acoustic player and one with the Overdrive enabled and controlled with the expression pedal.

All in all, I think i really made the best purchase of the year with this G3. It was such a breeze to cary my small pedalboard on my left hand and my guitar on the right hand and walk to the stage and be seteup in minutes. It was great specially with time constraints.

If anyone is out there needing more modules other than the 3 that the G3 already provides, I highly recommend the G1n Ext or even the G2nu which is a lot newer. But more expensive. It gives you awesome tone and options as far as flexibility.

[stratchamp57]

Whenever I use the air reverb or the stereo chorus with headphones my ears start to hurt after a minute or so. :huh

Does it affect you guys too or are my ears just messed up?

[musikman]

Ear drum pain,

a warning sign of pending ear damage. Be careful, don't play too loud and if possible use open earphones not closed to let your ears breath. Otherwise, have them ckecked out by your Doctor to make sure there is no visible damage to your eardrum.

Our ears let us enjoy all we have, if you can't hear what you play, then it's over.... care for them everyone. Just my two cents.....

[stratchamp57]

Ear drum pain,

a warning sign of pending ear damage. Be careful, don't play too loud and if possible use open earphones not closed to let your ears breath. Otherwise, have them ckecked out by your Doctor to make sure there is no visible damage to your eardrum.

Our ears let us enjoy all we have, if you can't hear what you play, then it's over.... care for them everyone. Just my two cents.....

Hmm.... But I only happens when I use those two effects. :huh

Maybe I should start playing out loud whenever I can.

[Gaetano Capuano]

thoes dang ernie ball tone suckers.........

[musikman]

:bonk:agreeLOL!!!

[Gaetano Capuano]

Whenever I use the air reverb or the stereo chorus with headphones my ears start to hurt after a minute or so. :huh

Does it affect you guys too or are my ears just messed up?

thats strange.............

[musikman]

Anyone out there using the Jekyll & Hyde overdrive pedal with their G3?

[hte_roadrunner]

Hi. Anyone noticed that the sound is cut for an instant when you turn an effect on and off? I'm not talking about the spillover. Try running a delay after a distorted amp sim, and turn the delay on and off while you are playing, you'll notice a click and for an instance there is no signal. Very annoying for live usage. Not all effects do this, but most do.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It probably would not be noticeable in a gig situation, but it is alone.

I play in a 3-piece band, guitar-bass-drums so there is no extra 'noise' to cover it up. Pity, it was sounding great... :(

[stratchamp57]

Looks like the g5's going to have a deluxe reverb.

http://zoom.co.jp/products/g5/

[fly135]

Anyone out there using the Jekyll & Hyde overdrive pedal with their G3?Yep.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii83/fly_135/pb1.jpg

[stratchamp57]

Just looked and the g5 has no aux in. I'm not interested.

[roachone]

Just looked and the g5 has no aux in. I'm not interested.
I looked at the website, where did see or read this? Not doubting you, i just cant find that info. :huh

[stratchamp57]

I found a picture of the back of the g5 and there was no aux input.

[roachone]

I found a picture of the back of the g5 and there was no aux input.
cool. can you post it, or send me a link?:aok

[Henky]

http://www.samsontech.com/site_media/cms/images/product/zoom/guitar-effects/guitar-effects/g5/G5_rear.jpg

But why is an aux-in so important to you?

[neastguy]

cool. can you post it, or send me a link?:aok

http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/products/guitar-effects/g5/

[stratchamp57]

http://www.samsontech.com/site_media/cms/images/product/zoom/guitar-effects/guitar-effects/g5/G5_rear.jpg

But why is an aux-in so important to you?

I'd much rather jam along to my mp3's and backing tracks than use the looper. :p

[Henky]

I'd much rather jam along to my mp3's and backing tracks than use the looper. :p
You can jam along to MP3's when you use the USB audio interface...

[stratchamp57]

Why would I want to sit next to my computer and do that? You don't get it.

[Henky]

Why would I want to sit next to my computer and do that? You don't get it.
Well I don't mind taking my laptop or netbook out to practise.
Gives me a chance to record what I'm doing too.

[photone]

... from ZOOM's home page :"The G5 offers four large LCD displays and corresponding footswitches that form a graphical interface, allowing you to utilize up to nine stompbox and amp effects simultaneously" ,... "The G5 offers over 100 diverse types of stompbox effects, including some of the world’s most popular guitar pedals and rack-mounted processors. You can use up to nine effects in any combination. "...

Really don't understand how is possible the G5 is so powerful ( with the same ZFX-IV DSP effects processor like G3's) and can do that, and the G3 can't.:huh Only because The G5 are 1 more footswitch available for that ?

... and there are no fx loop on G5, so.... no 4CM method,etc.

[stratchamp57]

How is that possible? You can barely use three fx with the g3. :huh

[SeeMoore]

... from ZOOM's home page :"The G5 offers four large LCD displays and corresponding footswitches that form a graphical interface, allowing you to utilize up to nine stompbox and amp effects simultaneously" ,... "The G5 offers over 100 diverse types of stompbox effects, including some of the world’s most popular guitar pedals and rack-mounted processors. You can use up to nine effects in any combination. "...

Really don't understand how is possible the G5 is so powerful ( with the same ZFX-IV DSP effects processor like G3's) and can do that, and the G3 can't.:huh Only because The G5 are 1 more footswitch available for that ?

... and there are no fx loop on G5, so.... no 4CM method,etc.

I would be surprised if the G5 that is released is anything like the one that's been shown, just sayin'

[Gaetano Capuano]

I think it has dual chips.... D:

[photone]

I think it has dual chips.... D:
No way. I think that's to important " marketing deal" to not mention for a new product.

[Turbo Gerbil]

The iConnectMidi is one of them and I've got one and it's working great with the G3 right out of the box.

That box looks pretty cool and useful for a lot of things. Am I thinking correctly that with that box you could control multiple G3's with a floorboard by using a USB hub on the iConnectMidi? Is it working as a MIDI thru, or a patchbay?

[yurka723]

No way. I think that's to important " marketing deal" to not mention for a new product.

Pretty sure the number of DSP chips, or knowing the processing power is irrelevant to most people buying multi effects products. I don't think its a "marketing deal" at all, just look at Line 6 or Digitech. No where in their marketing will you see them boast about the number of DSP chips, or processing power. Quite frankly we don't even know the limitations present in the G3 from a processor standpoint. From someone that writes firmware for embedded microcontrollers, including Freescale(used in very many MFX), there could possibly be a dozen different constraints, independent of the processing power. The magic happens in the firmware and the algorithms, and seeing that the G5 is batterless compared to the G3, they could be squeezing a lot more juice out of the same controller. Just a thought, guess we'll find out.

[photone]

The magic happens in the firmware and the algorithms, and seeing that the G5 is batterless compared to the G3, they could be squeezing a lot more juice out of the same controller.

You're probably right. I was just a little intrigued about G3's : " *Only two effects can be used in some combinations that feature amp models or HD Reverb " to G5's : "You can use up to nine effects in any combination ..." So, there's a lot more "juice". ( haha , for that reason, on G5 must be not 2 chips but at least 4 or 5 ? .. just kidding :p )
Anyway ,we will see...

[Gaetano Capuano]

You can use up to 6 effects at once on the G3 technically.

[neastguy]

Hmmm... If you cannot put wha out front of the amp and the rest via the amps fx loop... That might suck on the g5

Anyone considering the ipb10?

[roachone]

I still cant figure out if it has a real tube or not. Also, at least from what I have read, they haven't said how many processor chips the G5 will have. Maybe I missed it somewhere. Why is everyone assuming it will only have 1?:huh

[stratchamp57]

On their website it said it only had one processor but now it's not there anymore.

[enigma]

I went to buy a Zoom G3 at Sam Ash the other day, but they didn't have it in stock. Then, the sales clerk tells me that Sam Ash owns Zoom (didn't know that). So, why does Sweetwater have them in stock, and this particular Sam Ash doesn't have them in stock? :dunno

Anyway, I'm glad they didn't have it as I'm excited to see what G5 can do.

[photone]

I think the G5 is not yet a completed unit , and I noticed that for some reason they put and take informations on G5's page about the unit but some of them are ambiguous.( there is real tube or not, if run on batteries , about the real DSP power ,etc ?)... And after all, why they not presented the "sound" of G5 at NAMM 2012 ? We have only a short visual representation of G5.:clips
So I think when finaly the G5 will be released, will be slightly different than it is presented now.I hope in a good way.:munch

[roachone]

I think the G5 is not yet a completed unit , and I noticed that for some reason they put and take informations on G5's page about the unit but some of them are ambiguous.( there is real tube or not, if run on batteries , about the real DSP power ,etc ?)... And after all, why they not presented the "sound" of G5 at NAMM 2012 ? We have only a short visual representation of G5.:clips
So I think when finaly the G5 will be released, will be slightly different than it is presented now.I hope in a good way.:munch
I think you are exactly right. We will just have to wait till the unit is released. :agree

[yurka723]

I went to buy a Zoom G3 at Sam Ash the other day, but they didn't have it in stock. Then, the sales clerk tells me that Sam Ash owns Zoom (didn't know that). So, why does Sweetwater have them in stock, and this particular Sam Ash doesn't have them in stock? :dunno

Anyway, I'm glad they didn't have it as I'm excited to see what G5 can do.

SamsonTech owns zoom, I believe that is what the sales clerk was probably talking about. Sam Ash is just a musical instruments store.

[Bog]

SamsonTech owns zoom, I believe that is what the sales clerk was probably talking about. Sam Ash is just a musical instruments store.

Samsomtech doesn't own Zoom. Zoom is a japanese company, Samsomtech distributes their products in the US.

[enigma]

SamsonTech owns zoom, I believe that is what the sales clerk was probably talking about. Sam Ash is just a musical instruments store.

Perhaps, SamsonTech is owned by "Sam" Ash?

[yurka723]

Samsomtech doesn't own Zoom. Zoom is a japanese company, Samsomtech distributes their products in the US.

Maybe so, but it could very well be the same company, according to wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Technologies

[ElDiabloBlanco]

Perhaps, SamsonTech is owned by "Sam" Ash?


That is correct.

[krueger]

I just came back from my first band practice with the G3. We have a decent sounding PA system and I went direct into the mixer with the balanced out. I used the MS Crunch model with the T Screamer in front and the Hall reverb after. I have the FP02 expression pedal which I set to output volume. I adjusted the range of the expression pedal to 80 (low) and 100 (high). This way I can put the heel down and have the rhythm level. Then I can depress it fully and get a volume boost for leads. Worked out pretty well.

The sound? Well I thought it sounded great! But more important it felt great and I was able to work the tone and volume pots with my tele and get the right response from the unit.

I didn't spend much time dialing in my patch either. Next time I will come early and spend an half-hour to dial in some different patches. Feels good to come with the guitar on your back and an old laptop bag with the rest of your gear ;)

[yurka723]

That is correct.

Learn something new every day.

[Henky]

That box looks pretty cool and useful for a lot of things. Am I thinking correctly that with that box you could control multiple G3's with a floorboard by using a USB hub on the iConnectMidi? Is it working as a MIDI thru, or a patchbay?
According to the the guys at iConnectivity it should be possible to control multiple G3's using a hub.
I can't test it as i have only one G3 but I'm planning to get a G5 and if the G5 has the same MIDI implementation (which i expect it does) it should be possible to control a G3 and a G5 at the same time.

[lspaulsp]

Why not just get one of the Digitech thingys if your going to spend that much for an IPAD controlled device?

[Peeb]

I just came back from my first band practice with the G3. We have a decent sounding PA system and I went direct into the mixer with the balanced out. I used the MS Crunch model with the T Screamer in front and the Hall reverb after. I have the FP02 expression pedal which I set to output volume. I adjusted the range of the expression pedal to 80 (low) and 100 (high). This way I can put the heel down and have the rhythm level. Then I can depress it fully and get a volume boost for leads. Worked out pretty well.

The sound? Well I thought it sounded great! But more important it felt great and I was able to work the tone and volume pots with my tele and get the right response from the unit.

I didn't spend much time dialing in my patch either. Next time I will come early and spend an half-hour to dial in some different patches. Feels good to come with the guitar on your back and an old laptop bag with the rest of your gear ;)
I bought the G3 solely for bedroom/headphone playing and recording via usb every once in awhile. I was SHOCKED at how good it sounded thru my Princeton Reverb II set clean. It really rocks.

[johnnymegabyte]

who's tried the 2 Two Rock patches ? I have been using them live, alternating between the two for my last few gigs. Did change the other FX & Delay in the 2 patches
Preferring them over Marshall at the moment

[Peeb]

who's tried the 2 Two Rock patches ? I have been using them live, alternating between the two for my last few gigs. Did change the other FX & Delay in the 2 patches
Preferring them over Marshall at the moment
Yeah, that's my favorite dirty amp sound in that little box.

[stratchamp57]

who's tried the 2 Two Rock patches ? I have been using them live, alternating between the two for my last few gigs. Did change the other FX & Delay in the 2 patches
Preferring them over Marshall at the moment

I like both the Marshall and the two rock for dirt.

[Gaetano Capuano]

The Two Rock sounds outstanding!

[Dr Git]

I want one..any idea about how much $$$

[stratchamp57]

I want one..any idea about how much $$$

$180 new on eBay or about $160-$170 used.

[yurka723]

Musicians Friend is always running some kind of deal, 10-15% off $199. So you can easily get one for around $170-180.

[Dr Git]

Thanks, though i meant the newest one coming out in May...



$180 new on eBay or about $160-$170 used.

[Peeb]

Thanks, though i meant the newest one coming out in May...
300-ish I think I read somewhere?

[Milo]

I love the Two Rock. Try the amp for cleansih half break up also. I tend to use the amp with low gain and adding a ts/od for punch and roar when needed.

[yurka723]

300-ish I think I read somewhere?

$300. They have already gone on pre-sale at some distributors.

[kurto]

I'm interested in this for the range of effects and the looper, but there hasn't been much talk in this thread about the looper. Is it good? Can you still run effects while recording and playing back? Can you switch effects during playback - keep the loop running with Tone A and switch guitar to Tone B, for example? Thanks for your help.

[neastguy]

I"m missing my G3... may is a long way off... tempted to reorder the g3..lol...

[tucsonsound]

I'm interested in this for the range of effects and the looper, but there hasn't been much talk in this thread about the looper. Is it good? Can you still run effects while recording and playing back? Can you switch effects during playback - keep the loop running with Tone A and switch guitar to Tone B, for example? Thanks for your help.

The looper is fed from the effects output, so you capure your fx/sim chain as a loop and then you can freely change to a different fx/sim without the original loop being effected. Possibly my favorite thing to play with on this box.

[Gaetano Capuano]

I'm interested in this for the range of effects and the looper, but there hasn't been much talk in this thread about the looper. Is it good? Can you still run effects while recording and playing back? Can you switch effects during playback - keep the loop running with Tone A and switch guitar to Tone B, for example? Thanks for your help.

Really? its a 990 post thread, theres been plenty of talk about the looper, here is an example I made of using it.
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[kurto]

Really? its a 990 post thread, theres been plenty of talk about the looper, here is an example I made of using it.
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Yes, really. Prior to my posting, there were 63 mentions of the word looper out of the 987 posts, or 6% of the total posts, which I would not consider plenty, and none of them answered the questions I asked. While your video is nice, it doesn't answer the questions I asked (though I would understand if you take it to be a simple affirmative answer to my question of whether or not it is good). So rather than being a know-it-all, maybe you can be helpful. I've read the thread and watched the videos embedded herein, and I posted a series of questions that I felt had not been answered. See the post above yours for a reasonable response. I'd like more of those. Thanks.

[Lution]

Yes, really. Prior to my posting, there were 63 mentions of the word looper out of the 987 posts, or 6% of the total posts, which I would not consider plenty, and none of them answered the questions I asked. While your video is nice, it doesn't answer the questions I asked (though I would understand if you take it to be a simple affirmative answer to my question of whether or not it is good). So rather than being a know-it-all, maybe you can be helpful. I've read the thread and watched the videos embedded herein, and I posted a series of questions that I felt had not been answered. See the post above yours for a reasonable response. I'd like more of those. Thanks.

Hey Kurto,

No worries, mate. I asked a question earlier about using the G3 with a 44 Magnum and a guitar cab and the same user above chose to use the ROFL smiley instead of offer any kind of insight related to my question. It happens here sometimes. Folks just being... folks.

I own a G3 and would be happy to answer questions if you have any more about this device.

[Gaetano Capuano]

Yes, really. Prior to my posting, there were 63 mentions of the word looper out of the 987 posts, or 6% of the total posts, which I would not consider plenty, and none of them answered the questions I asked. While your video is nice, it doesn't answer the questions I asked (though I would understand if you take it to be a simple affirmative answer to my question of whether or not it is good). So rather than being a know-it-all, maybe you can be helpful. I've read the thread and watched the videos embedded herein, and I posted a series of questions that I felt had not been answered. See the post above yours for a reasonable response. I'd like more of those. Thanks.
Really? I thought I was being helpful? You can switch effects on and off, change patches, any patch you want, and anything else while running the looper? Just like I did all over that video above. :bonk
Things you cant do, slow the loop playing down. Make the loop go in reverse. Use the tap tempo function while the looper is playing. The tap tempo function is glabnally sync so once you press it the running loop dies, as it is sync to the tap tempo as well.
You can also set the looper to record 1- 32 measure, I think its 32, all synced to you global bpm that you tap in. It is a really nice looper. Hope that helps, not trying to be a jerk :p

[fly135]

I'm interested in this for the range of effects and the looper, but there hasn't been much talk in this thread about the looper. Is it good? Can you still run effects while recording and playing back? Can you switch effects during playback - keep the loop running with Tone A and switch guitar to Tone B, for example? Thanks for your help.Yes to all of the above. It is a bit cumbersome because you have to press and hold footswitches to switch modes as there are several different modes.

- Looper mode
- Stompbox mode
- Patch select mode

[Gaetano Capuano]

Hey Kurto,

No worries, mate. I asked a question earlier about using the G3 with a 44 Magnum and a guitar cab and the same user above chose to use the ROFL smiley instead of offer any kind of insight related to my question. It happens here sometimes. Folks just being... folks.

I own a G3 and would be happy to answer questions if you have any more about this device.

Hey Lution, I did that a while back because I got a kick out of how you said it effected your tone ever slightly. I thought it was funny as its a digital unit, and slightly is a good thing comapred to most digital units. ANyways I was being a jerk so I apologies. I should not have posted that. :munch

[Tigerfang]

The amps and dirt-pedals are very gainy and quite trebly. Fortunately you can twist the knobs counter-clockwise to remedy this without things going too muddy.

I'm playing with all of the amp models and I find it's better to reduce the gain alot when finding the sound you like. If you want clean perhaps 0 is the way to go at first. The tube knob (is that the Sigmoid Curve Clipper thing??) adds compression which gives the sound more body without getting much dirtier. I also reduce treble to 25-40, middle up to 70-80, bass at 50, presence 25-50 perhaps. I think the Vibro sounded pretty jazzy yesterday with settings like this. It doesn't need much on the gain level to become dirty though...

I know you posted this a few pages back, but I was away and missed your answer. Just tried that and it was a big help, so I wanted to say thanks.

[Lution]

Hey Lution, I did that a while back because I got a kick out of how you said it effected your tone ever slightly. I thought it was funny as its a digital unit, and slightly is a good thing comapred to most digital units. ANyways I was being a jerk so I apologies. I should not have posted that. :munch

It happens, Gaetano. Some stuff online just gets sort of lost in translation. No worries though. :)

[lspaulsp]

Gaetano C you da man!

[Gaetano Capuano]

I am having lots of fun witht he pitch delay this morning, I have the pitch maxed, nd I am hitting it with an octave down from an external pitch shiter, getting some weird crap here ;)

[madvek]

$180 new on eBay or about $160-$170 used.

Or $169 new from MF with their 15% off $199 deal through 2/28! I even just had GC.com price match the one I bought from them 30 days ago.:banana