A looper with an included "octave down" effect?

[lux_interior]

I would appreciate any help and suggestions that you would have on the matter... for years I have been looking into loopers (Digitech, Boss, Akai Headrush etc) but have never made the decision to buy one myself. Something like a week ago I saw the videos of Boss's new loopers, the RC3 and the RC30. The latter incorporates some effects like phaser, delay etc. and I thought that there may be one that includes an octave down effect, so that I would be able to use a pseudo-bass line together with the loops. It would also have to be a bit compact (not being huge would do) and also include some basic drum patterns. Is there such a looper available, or do I have to actually buy another octaver-down?

Having an option to remove phrase 2 and 3 and leaving just no.1 with a press of one switch would be a huge plus, and also instantly switching between phrase 1 and phrase 2, but I suppose I am probably asking for too much...

[dsw67]

I don't know, but it sounds like a cool idea. I'd buy one.

[Godspeed64]

How long do you need your loops to be? TimeBender can do this but it is not a dedicated looper.

[nightraven]

ehx 16 second digital delay

[Lolaviola]

Vox's new looper has effects. (NAMM 2011)

[lux_interior]

Τhanks very much for the replies. I remember seeing the Vox but didn't pay much attention. However, I just saw these...

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...and... WOW! That's exactly what I was looking for. Very good design and so many features... I will definitely get it soon.

[drolling]

It's old, discontinued & rackmount, but the Electrix Repeater will playback loops at the same speed, but half pitch, so if you set it up that way, you can record a lick on your guitar and have it come back sounding like a bass. IIRC, the sound quality's very high, compared to most pitch-shifters I've used, like the Whammy or the POG..

[brianeharmonjr]

EHX 2880 has it, in a way. You can't hit an octave button, but you can speed the loop up, record your "bass" line, then slow it back down, creating an octave lower effect.

[lux_interior]

Thanks guys. I am looking for something that does the "translation" automatically - I wouldn't like to play it and then shift it an octave down in front of an audience. It might be interesting as an effect but I wouldn't aim for that myself.

[Spudman]

Check into the Line 6 JM4 looper.

[CharAznable]

The M9's looper has this.

[huggernaut]

will this work as just a volume pedal as you're looping? and not looping?

kind of just wondering if i could get double functionality out of it for swells...

[59Vampire]

cool stuff thanks Lux. Gotta love Poison Ivy!

[eternally found]

The DL4 does half speed, which is an octave down, but... you guessed it, half speed :D

[sahhas]

my old dod d12 (12 sec of delay looping)
eh 16ddl-ri (& new eh 2880)
electrix repeater (as someone said)
boomerang has 1/2 speed function & others
beringer tweakalizer has a pitch up & down function on the simple sampler
lexicon pcm 42
eh smm w/ h-does it also (i've heard overdubs can be "iffy")
digitech pds8000 (& 8 sec rack delays from early 90s)

the problem w/ this on most of the new "phrase samplers" is that they just record a phrase of playing and it's mostly static w/ option to add on top for overdub (which is the same as having a long digital delay set to 100% feedback), where the idea of this comes from using analog tape delay or tape loops, idea if you have a 5 sec tape loop, but then start to slow down the loop the pitch starts to drop, or if you speed it up pitch goes up, and most of the phrase samplers of late aren't modeling this, which i think is a shame, that's the fun part of looping, recording stuff, messing w/ the sound of it... (see nels cline and his loop mangling w/ his eh 16ddl or bill frisell w/ digitech pds 8000)

i honestly don't know why digitech hasn't redone their original pds 8000, it sounds like a perfect loop mangler...bill frisell has really exploited it quite nicely on some recordings in the last 15 yrs...i think his is sort of retired...