T.C. Electronic HALL OF FAME REVERB

[jb1911]

I haven't been able to download Pandora's Box, either. The rest of the downloads went smoothly. I'm really liking that Dark Hall, too!

Me either. Maybe it's better if we don't open it?

[Phillip_H]

Me either. Maybe it's better if we don't open it?

Well played.

[whoismarykelly]

Are any of the new ones the RV5 mod tone print?

If Tore has made that one its the Room with a view Toneprint. Its got the lighter, slower modulation and can get nice and bright like the Boss.

[Kestrel]

HOW DO I LISTEN TO THE TONEPRINTS

all I see at the site is an option to download the TP

I see no 'listen' feature??


This.

Tore, if you get the chance to read this. PLEASE, could you guys put sound samples of the different TonePrints available on your site so we can listen to them before downloading them? It doesn't have to be anything fancy. Even 20 to 30 second sound samples would be a HUGE benefit in helping us choose the TonePrints we like.

[Zero G]

Doesn't it only take a few seconds to download a Tone Print? Why not just download it, try it out for a few seconds, and if you don't like it, download another one? Doesn't seem like such a big hassle.

[Kestrel]

Doesn't it only take a few seconds to download a Tone Print? Why not just download it, try it out for a few seconds, and if you don't like it, download another one? Doesn't seem like such a big hassle.

Because having a sound sample available would save time from having to download a TonePrint you may not like. It's just more convenient, especially of TC Electonic's TonePrint catalog continues to grow. The videos showing Tore with the artists are cool, but it would be better to just select a sound sample and if you like what you hear you can then download the TonePrint.

[jacstraw84]

I tried most of them and went with the room with a view. This has got to be the rv-5 style one. It's subtle but beautiful.

[whoismarykelly]

Because having a sound sample available would save time from having to download a TonePrint you may not like. It's just more convenient, especially of TC Electonic's TonePrint catalog continues to grow. The videos showing Tore with the artists are cool, but it would be better to just select a sound sample and if you like what you hear you can then download the TonePrint.

I went through all the HOF toneprints an hour ago. It took me five minutes. The time between unplugging the pedal from my rig and plugging it back in was under a minute. Sound samples would be nice but the upload is so extremely fast that I dont think they are neccessary. It would take more time to load a sound clip than a toneprint I think :p

[popinvasion]

I went through all the HOF toneprints an hour ago. It took me five minutes. The time between unplugging the pedal from my rig and plugging it back in was under a minute. Sound samples would be nice but the upload is so extremely fast that I dont think they are neccessary. It would take more time to load a sound clip than a toneprint I think :p

ok which ones did you like and why?

[whoismarykelly]

I just stuck with room with a view. Its the RV5 modulated sound and works really well. The others all had too high of a modulation speed to be useful for me.

[popinvasion]

I just stuck with room with a view. Its the RV5 modulated sound and works really well. The others all had too high of a modulation speed to be useful for me.

really now that is interesting, did tore pull off an RV5 modulated killer? Is it better than the standard modulated? I can't wait to try it when I get home.

[Defendant]

This is all kinds of awesome.

Any sign of 'shimmer'?

[popinvasion]

wow, room with a view is killer. Seriously wow. Nice going tore. This was worth waiting for.

[lux_interior]

"Room with a view"... hm, it makes sense! Clever. If it really aims for the Boss RV-5 mod sounds, then they must have been trying to think of a nice name that doesn't involve any copyright issues, but also reminding where it comes from. "Room with a View"... :D

Now if only we could have some clips of it next to an original RV-5...

[jb1911]

I went through all the HOF toneprints an hour ago. It took me five minutes. The time between unplugging the pedal from my rig and plugging it back in was under a minute. Sound samples would be nice but the upload is so extremely fast that I dont think they are neccessary. It would take more time to load a sound clip than a toneprint I think :p

Same here. I have a folder for the HOF toneprints and another one for my Flashback. I downloaded them all and tried them, took just a few minutes. Are people really that spoiled that it's too much trouble?

One thing that would be an improvement:
The pedal should get power from the USB cable, that way you wouldn't need a battery in it to upload a toneprint. I hate batteries and these two pedals eat them for breakfast.

"Room with a View" is my favorite, too. I didn't really like any of the others.

[whoismarykelly]

Yeah Im certain that USB could provide enough power.

[Muse FTW]

This is all kinds of awesome.

Any sign of 'shimmer'?

...x2

[whattheadam]

I went through them all last night... Favorites are: Dark Ambience, Dark Hall, Room With a View. I'm also a fan of the Church of Andy toneprint. Not my favorite, but pretty good: Chorused Church, Flangeverb, Multimod Reverb... the ones i didn't like and would not use were Ducking Verb, Jetverb 3000, Spring Devil. FWIW

[Clifford-D]

It was hard and almost a toss up between RWAV and Chorused Church and I went with the Chorused Church, it's a nice variation of the Church.
For now lol

[mlt1214]

would love to hear clips of the room with a view setting...

[popinvasion]

man this room with a view is just bad-ass. I really dig it, super musical.

I get the Room View=RV5-nice work TORE

This one imo beats the RV5 finally. The only thing I kind of wish is a longer decay, however TORE claims its about 8 seconds but I timed it a few times and it seems to just fade at 8 seconds and last maybe 11-12 seconds. Its super rad. This along with the space makes joyful music. I just need to learn to better stack verbs. Still learning.

[Cosmogang]

Room with a view has a really amazing sound to it, but IMO the modulation is still a tad bit too deep.

Room with a view + Pete Thorn Mod Delay = shloads of fun

[popinvasion]

really you think its too deep? I don't hear any warble just shimmer(not the octave kind). I really dig it. I think the only way it gets better than this is to tweak the toneprint software yourself. honestly its quite amazing. You would like it to be a tad less deep, and I would like tad more decay. Obviously we are nitpicking a great toneprint. Dare I say the best one made. I actually prefer the room with a view over all the other options already available on the pedal. I think the only way we get better than this is to tweak further to our own taste. Hopefully that is in the works. Otherwise for now I am pretty happy about this one.

[Phillip_H]

Has anyone done a demo of the Room with a View patch? I recently sold my RV5, and it'd be nice to have that modulated verb along with a bunch of other useable tones.

[jcbranam]

I agree someone has got to do a video demo of the RV5 mod vs the HOF Room View.

[Cosmogang]

really you think its too deep? I don't hear any warble just shimmer(not the octave kind). I really dig it. I think the only way it gets better than this is to tweak the toneprint software yourself. honestly its quite amazing. You would like it to be a tad less deep, and I would like tad more decay. Obviously we are nitpicking a great toneprint. Dare I say the best one made. I actually prefer the room with a view over all the other options already available on the pedal. I think the only way we get better than this is to tweak further to our own taste. Hopefully that is in the works. Otherwise for now I am pretty happy about this one.

You're right. After more listening I think it is near perfect.

One thing I like is that you can turn up the tone and really enjoy the crystal trails.
On the RV5, if you turn up the tone it gets really hissy, but not with the HOF.

[popinvasion]

You're right. After more listening I think it is near perfect.

One thing I like is that you can turn up the tone and really enjoy the crystal trails.
On the RV5, if you turn up the tone it gets really hissy, but not with the HOF.

exactly its quite stunning. Great work on Tore.

[Kestrel]

Room with a view has a really amazing sound to it, but IMO the modulation is still a tad bit too deep.

Room with a view + Pete Thorn Mod Delay = shloads of fun

Okay, so I downloaded the Room with a View TonePrint. I have to say it's pretty damn close to the modulated reverb on the Boss RV-5. Definitely sounds warmer and less "icy" than the RV-5 (which ain't a bad thing), but the modulation sounds really close.

You state that the modulation sounds too deep. I disagree. It's the rate/speed of the modulation that differs a bit from the RV-5. I just compared both the RV-5 and the HoF with their effect levels cranked and the rate of the modulation on the Room with a View TonePrint is a little slower than that of the RV-5. The slower sweep of the modulation is why you probably perceive it as sounding deep. I really like this TonePrint and I dare say it just may be the RV-5 killer.

[Phillip_H]

I really like this TonePrint and I dare say it just may be the RV-5 killer.

Well, crap. I think I'm just gonna have to buy one of these.

[RickB]

Has anyone done a demo of the Room with a View patch?

I just recorded a quick one take of the RWAV TonePrint and am uploading it now. If it sounds ok that is. It could very well hurt sales of the pedal with my playing! Will post it as soon as I can. :cool:

[RickB]

Here it is. Room With a View. Just some incoherent noodling and knob twisting to try and give those asking a sense of what it sounds like. Had to use my tele which has some pickup hum (string broke on my noiseless equipped strat and didn't feel like changing strings for this). This is just my tele > Klon > HoF > Blues Jr. Reverb on the amp was completely off.

M4MU0_yWqic

[mlt1214]

It sounds great, but I still think it's too "obvious" that it's a tri-chorus on top of the reverb. I don't think it kills the RV-5. Like somebody else said, it has the same depth of modulation. But the rate still seems too fast. Again, it sounds great, don't get me wrong. But it's not really the same as the RV-5. You can hear the difference in the modulation very clearly. Still very warble-y. Interesting sound for sure though, perfect for those who like the RV-5 but want a little more noticeable effect.

[lux_interior]

Disclaimer: I don't own the Hall of Fame. But I think I agree with Mlt1214. It's too soon to say anything, but it does sound really nice, although a tiny bit on the swirly side. On moderate settings it is close, though. Thanks a lot for the clip, and don't worry, I don't think it will hurt any sales!

[DanHorse]

Lets not forget that Tore (and thus TC) has made some of these prints going on suggestions from this site, what other big manufaturer does that!

[Cosmogang]

It sounds great, but I still think it's too "obvious" that it's a tri-chorus on top of the reverb. I don't think it kills the RV-5. Like somebody else said, it has the same depth of modulation. But the rate still seems too fast. Again, it sounds great, don't get me wrong. But it's not really the same as the RV-5. You can hear the difference in the modulation very clearly. Still very warble-y. Interesting sound for sure though, perfect for those who like the RV-5 but want a little more noticeable effect.

Yes, its still pretty different, but it is pretty awesome. I love the sound. I bet it would sound amazing stacked into the WET!

[Kestrel]

Yes, there is a bit of swirl which gets more pronounced as you crank the effect level and decay. After messing around with both the RV-5 and the Room with a View Toneprint I can definitely say there are some differences. First, the Room with a View TonePrint sounds much warmer than the RV-5. Second, the difference in modulation between the RV-5 and the Room with a View TonePrint seems to be the rate of it's sweep. With the Effect and Time level cranked on the RV-5, the rate of the modulation sounds faster. The rate of the chorus' sweep on the HoF is a little slower and slightly deeper. To me, the HoF is much more tweakable than the Boss RV-5 so you don't necessarily have to crank the effect level and decay knobs all the way. I like the sound of this TonePrint and while it's not an exact copy of the RV-5's modulated reverb it does come close.

All of that said, I believe most of the user requests were for the HoF to have a modulated reverb that was more like the RV-5's, not necessarily an exact copy of it. In that respect, I think Tore has delivered. To me this TonePrint sounds better than the default Mod preset that was programmed into the HoF.

[Clifford-D]

Here are three mp3s of me
ASAT > Line6 Podxt dry > HoF > recorder

Church Chorus
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_8141786

Room With A View
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_8141768

Church Of Andy
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_8141781

[popinvasion]

yeah why copy the RV5 when you can beat it. The room with a view sounds different, but better but it has that RV5 styling. Its a way cool sound.

[popinvasion]

Here are three mp3s of me
ASAT > Line6 Podxt dry > HoF > recorder

Church Chorus
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_8141786

Room With A View
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_8141768

Church Of Andy
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_8141781

that church chorus sounds great same with room with a view

[Justin Gadell]

im agreeing with mlt, it not the same and has warble when cranked. it is nice by all means and i will do some more messing with it tonight but the warble i can see making it harder to work with

[Kestrel]

You don't have to crank the effect level all the way. Also, no one has said it sounded exactly like the RV-5. I mean, if you want the modulated reverb sound of the RV-5 then just get an RV-5. What we asked for was a smoother soundiing chorused reverb similar to that of the RV-5. To me, the Room with a View TonePrint is not an exact copy, but is very usable and sounds nice.

What it boils down to is this. For many people (including myself) the Boss RV-5 is worth owning only for it's modulated reverb. It sounds beautiful. Very ethereal, however, it's spring reverb is disappointing and it's other verbs are mediocre at best. The Hall of Fame is 100 times the better reverb pedal by it's options and sheer versatility. The possibilities with this pedal are endless and a smoother sounding chorused hall or church reverb may very well be on the horizon.

[mlt1214]

Yes, its still pretty different, but it is pretty awesome. I love the sound. I bet it would sound amazing stacked into the WET!

Yeah it does sound very cool. It reminds me of the BSR's mod setting on the room mode. I used to use that all the time before I sold it, often into a WET... which was amazing!


All of that said, I believe most of the user requests were for the HoF to have a modulated reverb that was more like the RV-5's, not necessarily an exact copy of it. In that respect, I think Tore has delivered. To me this TonePrint sounds better than the default Mod preset that was programmed into the HoF.

Agreed.

yeah why copy the RV5 when you can beat it. The room with a view sounds different, but better but it has that RV5 styling. Its a way cool sound.

I don't know about better, just different. To me the appeal of the RV-5 is the grainy lo-fi character of the reverb. The HOF is definitely warmer sounding which is better in some regards. Sometimes I want a "dirtier" sound which is where the RV-5 shines. I do like this toneprint a lot though, don't get me wrong.

You don't have to crank the effect level all the way. Also, no one has said it sounded exactly like the RV-5. I mean, if you want the modulated reverb sound of the RV-5 then just get an RV-5. What we asked for was a smoother soundiing chorused reverb similar to that of the RV-5. To me, the Room with a View TonePrint is not an exact copy, but is very usable and sounds nice.

What it boils down to is this. For many people (including myself) the Boss RV-5 is worth owning only for it's modulated reverb. It sounds beautiful. Very ethereal, however, it's spring reverb is disappointing and it's other verbs are mediocre at best. The Hall of Fame is 100 times the better reverb pedal by it's options and sheer versatility. The possibilities with this pedal are endless and a smoother sounding chorused hall or church reverb may very well be on the horizon.

Exactly. I agree. I just meant to say that the RV-5 is a very unique verb that is difficult to be replicated exactly. Like I said to sunsetamps it's more lo-fi than the HOF which isn't worse or better, just different. I applaud TC for doing something that borrows from the spirit of the RV-5 but still has its own character. It really does remind me a lot of the BSR's mod mode which I really dug on the room setting.

[Clifford-D]

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nice tail

[southpaw pete]

Clifford-D, thanks for sharing the clips. Wow! Those are some beautiful settings.
Nice playing too - very relaxing.

[phishead5941]

Yeah, thanks Clifford. I just downloaded church of andy and chorused church. I think both of these will be very usable for me in a worship setting. I'm also going to try room with a view.

[Bucksears]

So, is the 'Spring' setting really that bad? I like the 'Spring' and 'Hall' on my RV-7, but the Toneprint option on the HOF is just too cool; wonder if I'd miss the RV-7 if I got this.

[phishead5941]

I use a EHX nano holy grail for spring and I prefer it over my fender hot rod deluxe spring reverb. But, to answer your question, the HOF spring isn't unusable in my opionion.

[popinvasion]

spring on the hof is not bad. I dig it. but when I want that sound I still prefer plate set mildly.

[Bucksears]

I guess what I should have asked was, can I get a spring-esque reverb elsewhere on the HOF? Just looking for a little to add some space when playing clean or OD.

[jb1911]

I guess what I should have asked was, can I get a spring-esque reverb elsewhere on the HOF? Just looking for a little to add some space when playing clean or OD.

I actually like the "Spring Devil" toneprint. Sounds better to me than the spring setting.

[popinvasion]

Ok in person the room with a view is just fantastic. I just spent some time comparing with an RV5 and the room with a view is better, its in the same RV5 Mod vibe, but its very hifi and super warm. The RV5 does have a very digitized fog too it that make sit sort of lofi-ish that does have charm I get it. I am telling you in the room it would be very hard to pick the RV5 over the HOF, the HOF eats it up in musicality. That said I do understand the RV5 love, people are familiar with it. However someone like me who never spent much time with the RV5 can easily make a decision because there is no emotional attachment. Its like your moms cooking, sometimes she just makes the best to you, but not everyone else. I do have to say that many RV5 fans probably would be happy with an HOF and most will not miss the RV5.

[Kestrel]

Just a word of warning to you guys using the TonePrints. Be careful with connecting and removing your cable to the pedal's USB port. Those things can be fragile.The small bit inside the port that contacts with the cable broke and is loose somehere inside the pedal. The pedal works fine, but there goes the chance of downloading any new TonePrints or firmware upgrades. Incidentally, I did notice it was harder to connect the USB cable to my HoF than it was to my Flashback or Corona, so perhaps there was something not right with it from the start. Oh well.... I guess I can take it to the retailer I got it from to see if they can send it in for warranty service.

[popinvasion]

Just a word of warning to you guys using the TonePrints. Be careful with connecting and removing your cable to the pedal's USB port. Those things can be fragile.The small bit inside the port that contacts with the cable broke and is loose somehere inside the pedal. The pedal works fine, but there goes the chance of downloading any new TonePrints or firmware upgrades. Incidentally, I did notice it was harder to connect the USB cable to my HoF than it was to my Flashback or Corona, so perhaps there was something not right with it from the start. Oh well.... I guess I can take it to the retailer I got it from to see if they can send it in for warranty service.

That is a bummer. I did notice that it was tight getting it connected.

[Kestrel]

That is a bummer. I did notice that it was tight getting it connected.

Yeah, it is. At least these things come with a warranty. The worst part will be having to be without the pedal until it gets fixed.

[lux_interior]

Ok in person the room with a view is just fantastic. I just spent some time comparing with an RV5 and the room with a view is better, its in the same RV5 Mod vibe, but its very hifi and super warm. The RV5 does have a very digitized fog too it that make sit sort of lofi-ish that does have charm I get it. I am telling you in the room it would be very hard to pick the RV5 over the HOF, the HOF eats it up in musicality. That said I do understand the RV5 love, people are familiar with it. However someone like me who never spent much time with the RV5 can easily make a decision because there is no emotional attachment. Its like your moms cooking, sometimes she just makes the best to you, but not everyone else. I do have to say that many RV5 fans probably would be happy with an HOF and most will not miss the RV5.

I guess it's a bit ironic but personally speaking, this hint of "coldness" and "metallic" sound is one of the things that draws me to the modulated mode of the RV5 and also - generally - to the RV3. Ironic because most people want their reverbs to be warm, but this "cold" tone provides an atmosphere (a bit melancholic sometimes) that is precisely what I want when I am using it. Of course, I also loved the wonderful warmth of a tube-driven reverb that I had in one of my amps (sold now), but for other uses.

Of course, I am not saying this to complain about the Hall of Fame, but just as an example of someone (Tore) doing his best to please everybody, and then still having people not satisfied (not talking about anyone in particular). I guess that's sometimes inevitable, but on the other hand there is a good chance that people won't have anything more to say if/after the editor is released...

[Cosmogang]

Is it just me or does the Chorus Church sound more like the church mode with no modulation. It's almost like there's no modulation at all. It rocks, don't get me wrong, but I was expecting chorus. Ya know. I A/B'd chorus church and normal church and the normal is way more modulated. I kinda wish the nornal church mode had a more shallow warble, but the chorus church has like...... none. Geez...... here I go complaining again. I decided to stick with Room With a View.
Pete Thorn.....hurry up and make a stellar reverb toneprint.

[Tore TC]

Hi guys,

Just got back from Frankfurt. I'm glad that you like the new TonePrints - I was wondering if you'd pick up on the Room with a View hint... nice job!

As some you already guessed, I decided to put my own touch on the TonePrint and modify it to my liking.

We have more TonePrints coming up fairly soon - I recently sent Peter Thorn a HOF and am excited to see what he can come up with. Steffen Schackinger who's currently using M3000 reverbs also agreed to do a HOF TonePrint, so stay tuned!

Cheers,
Tore

[ckalinec]

^^Awesome! I know it's pretty cliche but shimmer would be sweet

[Bucksears]

I'd love to hear something that can do the Line6 'Particle Verb' from the M-series.

[Clifford-D]

Hi guys,

Just got back from Frankfurt. I'm glad that you like the new TonePrints - I was wondering if you'd pick up on the Room with a View hint... nice job!

As some you already guessed, I decided to put my own touch on the TonePrint and modify it to my liking.

We have more TonePrints coming up fairly soon - I recently sent Peter Thorn a HOF and am excited to see what he can come up with. Steffen Schackinger who's currently using M3000 reverbs also agreed to do a HOF TonePrint, so stay tuned!

Cheers,
Tore
Hi Tore,

Talk about a new product starting up with a ROAR. Bravo.

Will the reverbs have those video demos of the process? I would love to hear
the TP before downloading.

Thanks, Cliff

[whattheadam]

Hi guys,

Just got back from Frankfurt. I'm glad that you like the new TonePrints - I was wondering if you'd pick up on the Room with a View hint... nice job!

As some you already guessed, I decided to put my own touch on the TonePrint and modify it to my liking.

We have more TonePrints coming up fairly soon - I recently sent Peter Thorn a HOF and am excited to see what he can come up with. Steffen Schackinger who's currently using M3000 reverbs also agreed to do a HOF TonePrint, so stay tuned!

Cheers,
Tore

Tore, awesome stuff man! The Room with a View is 5 times more usable for me than the stock Mod on the HoF. Sounds fantastic!

A while back there was some talk about getting Jonsi from Sigur Ros possibly doing some toneprints. Any word on that happening?

[Clifford-D]

Clifford-D, thanks for sharing the clips. Wow! Those are some beautiful settings.
Nice playing too - very relaxing.
Thanks, these variations of the Church are all fasinating, like Tore said with 20 seconds of tail that stays in tune and focused is a lot like a layering looper that slowly fades away.

I failed to make a mp3 of the original Church mode. That has NO swirl in it, pure stream, pretty much that is.

If TC was able to make a long tail with 0 swirl at all, just pure beatless tail, that would be GREAT.

Of the TPs offered so far, I have to give it to the Chorused Church. Church of Andy has beautiful warmth to it, the warmest. Room with a View is also worth saving.

But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,only one TP port

sad, the one big problem worthy of a bit of gruff, TC knows what their doing, we will all have to buy another pedal.

[ynot]

Do any of the HOF reverbs work as a "set it forget it" effect if you get your cleans & dirty from the guitar,not channel switching? I have a Holy Grail now & if I set it for subtle reverb when dirty,by the time I roll back the volume for cleans it disapears,conversly if set for good reverb clean when I open up the volume I'm in a cavern...way too much.The only way to use it like this is to combat the reverb level issue with a volume pedal which is not ideal at all.I guess what would be ideal is a reverb that maintains the same wet level regardless of the level of the input signal.Nice & lush relative to low input for cleans & subtle relative to the louder input for dirty.

[Stevil]

I'm going to A/B this pedal with a EHX Cathedral this week. I'm hoping the HOF wins... as it takes up substantially less room than the EHX.

how did that turn out?
i've had the EHX Cathedral on my wish list for stereo reverb for a while & funds should be available soon to pull the trigger. all the great sounding demos & rave reviews of the HoF are starting to sway my opinon.

i'd love to hear some pro's/con's of these 2 from anybody that has used both.
(FYI, I've got a Neunaber Wet that i love, but i'm putting together a stereo setup.)

[cheameup]

Hey tore.

the new toneprints are good. room with a view is great . I also like the flanged verb allot .

Is it ever possible firmware would be updated to let us replace stock sounds with tone prints ? lofi and tile have no use for me and as more tone prints get added more great choices will be around

[eldanko]

Is it ever possible firmware would be updated to let us replace stock sounds with tone prints ? lofi and tile have no use for me and as more tone prints get added more great choices will be around


That's funny, I've been wondering the exact same thing. I really dig all of the presets, but there are certainly some TonePrints showing up that I would use more than some of them...

[cheameup]

That's funny, I've been wondering the exact same thing. I really dig all of the presets, but there are certainly some TonePrints showing up that I would use more than some of them...


yeah I'm stuck now with 2 I really like .

Its got to be possible. Its just a computer right ? the test is if they want to do it

[Tore TC]

Hi guys,

Whoa... lots of questions. It'll be a patchwork of quotes if I paste all your questions in here, so I'm just gonna answer them... hopefully you can find your particular question in there. Here goes:

- Regarding having multiple TonePrints in one pedal: It would require a massive software update (as in changing the entire preset structure) to be able to change the default reverb types. But we mainly chose the design because of the core idea behind the new pedals. The TonePrint pedals were designed to make classic single-effect stompboxes with one new unique feature (TonePrints)... You may disagree - and I can totally understand where you're coming from - but I think that making the pedal totally "open" would make it too confusing and un-pedal-like for the majority of users. You guys from TGP are a minority in that you understand and appreciate the power that TonePrints can give you, but trust me... the majority of our customers don't. And making a totally open pedal would confuse them even more. That's why we decided to go with one TonePrint per pedal.

- About a 100% un-modulated reverb. Gotcha... I'll make one.

- I'm in contact with Sigur Ros, but can't really say anything about whether it'll happen yet.

- I really wanted the TonePrints out so we decided to skip the videos for now, but we will definitely add either videos or audio samples for all of them.

Hope this anwers all your questions. :)

Cheers,
Tore

[mlweidl]

Hi guys,

Whoa... lots of questions. It'll be a patchwork of quotes if I paste all your questions in here, so I'm just gonna answer them... hopefully you can find your particular question in there. Here goes:

- Regarding having multiple TonePrints in one pedal: It would require a massive software update (as in changing the entire preset structure) to be able to change the default reverb types. But we mainly chose the design because of the core idea behind the new pedals. The TonePrint pedals were designed to make classic single-effect stompboxes with one new unique feature (TonePrints)... You may disagree - and I can totally understand where you're coming from - but I think that making the pedal totally "open" would make it too confusing and un-pedal-like for the majority of users. You guys from TGP are a minority in that you understand and appreciate the power that TonePrints can give you, but trust me... the majority of our customers don't. And making a totally open pedal would confuse them even more. That's why we decided to go with one TonePrint per pedal.

- About a 100% un-modulated reverb. Gotcha... I'll make one.

- I'm in contact with Sigur Ros, but can't really say anything about whether it'll happen yet.

- I really wanted the TonePrints out so we decided to skip the videos for now, but we will definitely add either videos or audio samples for all of them.

Hope this anwers all your questions. :)

Cheers,
Tore


if you made a toneprint with a shimmer i would buy for sure.... just saying

[Tore TC]

if you made a toneprint with a shimmer i would buy for sure.... just saying

I'd love to do a shimmer TonePrint, but we currently don't have an octaver in the HOF algorithm, so I can't do one right now. IF we ever add one, I'll make a shimmer TP right away. :)

[Daka3]

Kudos for a fantastic product, makes me feel proud to be danish! :)

Love the Room with a View, but would absolutely adore it with just a tad less depth to the modulation, is something like this on the big master lister of toneprints-that-the-users-requested? Otherwise, I'd be happy to have you ad it. Nonetheless, my board now ends with the FB and HoF boxes, and it sounds absolutely wonderful. These boxes balance flexibility and usability very nicely, and most importantly, they sound good!!!

Nice job. :)

[Tore TC]

Thanks Daka3,

I'll make a Room with a View with less modulation depth.

Cheers,
Tore

[partsocaster]

This has to be the coolest reverb pedal I have ever had the pleasure of owning. Digging on the Dark Church tone print, and the plate is wicked, perhaps a mod plate, darkened a touch?

THANK YOU TC!

[Phillip_H]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think it's pretty freaking cool that we can ask "can I get this sound with less of this and more of that?" and the designer says "sure, no problem."

[whoismarykelly]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think it's pretty freaking cool that we can ask "can I get this sound with less of this and more of that?" and the designer says "sure, no problem."

Orders of magnitude better than the customer/manufacturer interaction from any other large company.

[Cosmogang]

Thanks Daka3,

I'll make a Room with a View with less modulation depth.

Cheers,
Tore

YEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! :drool:drool:drool

[Jason Calieri]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think it's pretty freaking cool that we can ask "can I get this sound with less of this and more of that?" and the designer says "sure, no problem."

Ha, seriously, it's pretty unbelievable.

[ckalinec]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think it's pretty freaking cool that we can ask "can I get this sound with less of this and more of that?" and the designer says "sure, no problem."

Seriously, HUGE kudos to Tore!

[Webfoot]

Tores the man...

How does the spring reverb sound?

[partsocaster]

Tores the man...

How does the spring reverb sound?

Whereas, to my ears, it lacks the sproinginess of real springs, it's pretty good, it does sound a little metallic. By far, to my ears, the church setting is the best, vast, 20 seconds of decay, killer.

[Zero G]

Can any of the settings on the HOF get this reverb sound?

HIYlJoP39F8

[popinvasion]

Can any of the settings on the HOF get this reverb sound?

HIYlJoP39F8

absolutely although he does add delay and trem and various other effects but that reverb is easily achieved on the hof.

[teleclem]

Orders of magnitude better than the customer/manufacturer interaction from any other large company.

Most definitely.

[Muse FTW]

I'd love to do a shimmer TonePrint, but we currently don't have an octaver in the HOF algorithm, so I can't do one right now. IF we ever add one, I'll make a shimmer TP right away. :)

:(

I will buy this pedal as soon as shimmer is added (unless my reverb needs have been met by then).

[Boleary2]

:(

I will buy this pedal as soon as shimmer is added (unless my reverb needs have been met by then).

agreed...i bought eventide space...which is cool...but I really want this pedal...
don't use shimmer much...but it would be cool to have!!!

[Zero G]

:(

I will buy this pedal as soon as shimmer is added (unless my reverb needs have been met by then).

I'm sure the company will survive. ;)

[jamison162]

Why can't the Tone Print be user programmable via software download? We need a Tone Print "APP".

[RickB]

:facepalm

[Last Nerve]

We need a sticky, I guess-

"TC Will Release the TonePrint Software When it is Ready."

[sabby]

But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,only one TP port

sad, the one big problem worthy of a bit of gruff, TC knows what their doing, we will all have to buy another pedal.

Or maybe an app that will let you choose your Spring from all the Spring Reverb toneprints, your Church, your Modulated, etc. etc., and have these saved into the default positions.

Such conjecture is well beyond my pay-grade, but this may be easier than making the TonePrint software available to everyone.

[partsocaster]

I'm sure the company will survive. ;)

100% agree

[cathaya]

I am following the news concerning this pedal very closely and I am tempted to buy one very soon. the only problem with a pedal as versatile as the HoF, is that you can only test 10% of its capabilities when trying it at a store.

definitely looking forward to more out there and spacey TonePrints as well.

[mlweidl]

i just ordered one... cant wait

[Kingpin]

Or maybe an app that will let you choose your Spring from all the Spring Reverb toneprints, your Church, your Modulated, etc. etc., and have these saved into the default positions.

Such conjecture is well beyond my pay-grade, but this may be easier than making the TonePrint software available to everyone.

This is an excellent suggestion.

[Kingpin]

Tores the man...

How does the spring reverb sound?

I think the Spring Devil Toneprint is a bit more authentic than the stock Spring. But the stock is certainly very usable, and IMO, better than the spring sounds found on some other highly regarded pedals.

[Led Sabblin]

Is this thing fx loop friendly, I had a Nova repeater and the kill dry thing was worthless maybe I had a serial loop instead of parallel or just the opposite

[lux_interior]

This is an excellent suggestion.

...with the official answer given two pages ago: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=10437713#post10437713

[EdMan57]

Is this thing fx loop friendly, I had a Nova repeater and the kill dry thing was worthless maybe I had a serial loop instead of parallel or just the opposite


Tore said that the Toneprint pedals are built with enough headroom to work with both instrument and line/effects loop levels.My Flashback Delay/Looper works great in all my amp's effects loops.



Ed

[Roe]

I think the Spring Devil Toneprint is a bit more authentic than the stock Spring. But the stock is certainly very usable, and IMO, better than the spring sounds found on some other highly regarded pedals.


I actually prefer the stock toneprint spring tone

[phishead5941]

Ok, this is off the flow of the current discussion a bit, but, I downloaded the room with a view toneprint and it is fantastic. I like it even better than the modulated reverb on the boss rv5. This pedal is fantastic.

[jb1911]

I think the Spring Devil Toneprint is a bit more authentic than the stock Spring. But the stock is certainly very usable, and IMO, better than the spring sounds found on some other highly regarded pedals.

:agree

[sabby]

...with the official answer given two pages ago: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=10437713#post10437713
It's had to keep up, I tell ya.

:o

[rochell59]

Where can I find the best deal online on one of these? Discounts etc.

[Cosmogang]

I am really looking forward to having the Room with a View toneprint with less modulation. Thanks Tore!

[popinvasion]

I am really looking forward to having the Room with a View toneprint with less modulation. Thanks Tore!

how about with longer decay as well :)

[Phillip_H]

Where can I find the best deal online on one of these? Discounts etc.

I got Zzounds to beat the Nstuff price by $5. My final price was $135.95 w/free shipping. It'll be here on Friday. I don't think you can do much better than that.

[Cosmogang]

how about with longer decay as well :)

We are totally/tonally on the same page bro!

[Barbiche2]

I am really looking forward to having the Room with a View toneprint with less modulation. Thanks Tore!
I concur!...

[KevinFinn]

I placed my order for a HoF on 3/21 and am still waiting... but apparently, it shipped yesterday.

A lot of places have been or still are sold out and waiting on more units.

[TopBoost323]

Played one today at the local shop. It was cool. Wasn't blown away.
Are the TonePrint settings that much cooler than stock?

[DraggAmps]

Where can I find the best deal online on one of these? Discounts etc.

I got mine from Tunnel Vision for 10 percent off with the coupon code TGP10

[ToneBum]

Played one today at the local shop. It was cool. Wasn't blown away.
Are the TonePrint settings that much cooler than stock?

The toneprints are much better...but therein lies the problem...you can only use one print at a time. HUGE flaw in my opinion since I'd put prints in every preset slot if possible. I may be getting rid of mine...we'll see. I want to wait for a toneprint to come out that I can't live without and then just run two reverb pedals (RV7 and the HOF).

[ibodog]

I noticed that when the HOF was connected to my PC that it shows up in Device Manager as an audio and midi interface. It looks like you could select it for recording or playing back audio as well as midi. Could it actually be used as an audio interface?

[partsocaster]

Played one today at the local shop. It was cool. Wasn't blown away.
Are the TonePrint settings that much cooler than stock?

I find this to be the best, affordable verb pedal I've found. It responds wonderfully to dynamics, the quality, for an MXR sized pedal, is mind boggling. What are you comparing this to? This isn't a fight, it's just a curiosity, what's the benchmark?

I think it's important for everyone to remember that this pedal is firmware upgradeable, something simply not possible with so many other products.

[KevinFinn]

If Tore programs a Tone Print, shouldn't it be called a "Tore Print?"

:band





On a less silly note... I'm very surprised how few Tone Print demos have been posted by users here. I would have figured all the Tone Prints would have been demoed by at least 3-4 people each by now.

[KevinFinn]

Okay, I feel dumb, but I have to ask...

I just got mine today after a nearly three week wait. I've got it plugged in to power, and the USB cable is connected to my laptop. I've got Tone Prints downloaded and ready.

...But every time I open one up, there is no "upload" button. I can't get it to work.

[Daka3]

No need to feel dumb, I and many others have had that same situation happen. The thing is, you have to insert the input jack for it to work, for some reason. When doing this, and of course, while being connected to both power and USB, the 'No connection'-button magically turns into an 'Upload' - button. From there, it's smooth sailing uploading, A/B'ing and changing the prints.

[KevinFinn]

Thanks!

[jb1911]

No need to feel dumb, I and many others have had that same situation happen. The thing is, you have to insert the input jack for it to work, for some reason. When doing this, and of course, while being connected to both power and USB, the 'No connection'-button magically turns into an 'Upload' - button. From there, it's smooth sailing uploading, A/B'ing and changing the prints.

Inserting a plug in the input turns the pedal on. Almost all pedals with batteries work this way. You can save battery life by unplugging the input cable.

[JamminJoe]

Woohoo! Just ordered mine from NstuffMusic. Thanks to Phillip H for the heads up. I already have the Flashback which is everything I was looking for in a delay pedal (except for a tap tempo jack). This is a great series of pedals from TC.

[fishcake]

i just purchased this a couple of days ago too. you could live with the church setting alone. add a tone print feature and other verbs, and its definitely one of the best bang for buck pedals ive bought.

i do hope that the toneprint library would keep on growing to keep the novelty fresh.

[KevinFinn]

Okay, got back home ready to upload a tone print...

Still can't do it. Unit is plugged in to a 9v, the USB is attached to it and the computer, and a cable is plugged into the mono input of the pedal.

STILL no freaking "upload" button.

:waiting

[Delayed Delay]

Okay, got back home ready to upload a tone print...

Still can't do it. Unit is plugged in to a 9v, the USB is attached to it and the computer, and a cable is plugged into the mono input of the pedal.

STILL no freaking "upload" button.

:waiting
Did you engage the pedal?

I ran into the same problem until I engaged it/turned it on.

[KevinFinn]

Yup, it's turned on.

[Delayed Delay]

hmm... well... that's all I've got then! lol

[Stevil]

just got my Hof today. sounds lovely. thanks for a great sounding pedal. my vortex should arrive next week.

is there a tone print for the longest possible reverb trail & just a touch of modulation? with the settings cranked i'm hearing about 12 seconds of decay, i'm looking for a 'bottom of the infinite tunnel', shoegazer sound. the more gravity defying hang time the merrier really.

[KevinFinn]

^The Multimod Toneprint is what you want. 20 second decay max, selectable mod type.

As for me...
DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT MY ISSUE MIGHT BE? I'm beginning to think my pedal is just defective or something.

[Zero G]

^The Multimod Toneprint is what you want. 20 second decay max, selectable mod type.

As for me...
DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT MY ISSUE MIGHT BE? I'm beginning to think my pedal is just defective or something.

Have you tried getting in touch with Tore or any other customer service reps at T.C.?

[KevinFinn]

^Just opened up my email to do exactly that, actually.

Their site says it will take about 4 business days to answer me... Hopefully Tore checks in before then.

[Zero G]

^Just opened up my email to do exactly that, actually.

Their site says it will take about 4 business days to answer me... Hopefully Tore checks in before then.

Yeah, hope so man. Say, is there any chance the USB cable is bad or the USB port on your comp. isn't working?

[popinvasion]

^Just opened up my email to do exactly that, actually.

Their site says it will take about 4 business days to answer me... Hopefully Tore checks in before then.

your screwed.

[popinvasion]

Seriously Kevin, Lets just try to keep this bumped. Tore usually checks in every couple days and generally 3-5am eastern time. As he is in a different part of the world.

So lets hope he can explain it, it might be an easy problem or you need to just get a new hof. I had a few issues at first but once I got it working with my mac, its been fine.

[Zero G]

Seriously Kevin, Lets just try to keep this bumped. Tore usually checks in every couple days and generally 3-5am eastern time. As he is in a different part of the world.

So lets hope he can explain it, it might be an easy problem or you need to just get a new hof. I had a few issues at first but once I got it working with my mac, its been fine.

What kind of issues did you have? I have a Mac and I'm planning on buying one of these suckers soon.

[popinvasion]

What kind of issues did you have? I have a Mac and I'm planning on buying one of these suckers soon.

Just figuring out the little stuff like it needed a power source, wire connected, just the process. It works fine. But I made a few mistakes and it didn't work. Then I figured out the process and its fine.

[KevinFinn]

What's strange to me with a digital pedal is the idea of JUST the toneprint feature being iffy.

My computer's USB works, and recognizes the pedal when I plug it in... I just can't get an UPLOAD button.

[popinvasion]

What's strange to me with a digital pedal is the idea of JUST the toneprint feature being iffy.

My computer's USB works, and recognizes the pedal when I plug it in... I just can't get an UPLOAD button.

makes zero sense. I cant see how the pedal is broke, if it is recognized.

[Stevil]

^The Multimod Toneprint is what you want. 20 second decay max, selectable mod type.

thanks for the tip. nice print. i've got decay & fx level cranked & tone @ 9:00 for less intrusive modulation. halloffame_tc_multimodreverb is out of steam @ 5 seconds . i was hoping for something a little closer to the minutes of verb i get from my neunaber wet.

[lux_interior]

For people expecting a solution to hardware problems and (possible) faulty units: guys, this is a public user forum, not TC's support and help desk.

[Peeb]

For people expecting a solution to hardware problems and (possible) faulty units: guys, this is a public user forum, not TC's support and help desk.
Don't you think Tore is gonna want this issue resolved on the forum so that others (like me) who are watching aren't spooked off from trying the unit?

No one suggested that this is the TC support forum, but on more than one occasion, I have seen vendors who are members here (Wampler, Tore, Egnater) hop online to TGP and get folks on the right track so that their product is not unfairly judged or misunderstood.

[partsocaster]

^The Multimod Toneprint is what you want. 20 second decay max, selectable mod type.

As for me...
DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT MY ISSUE MIGHT BE? I'm beginning to think my pedal is just defective or something.

Don't plug the USB until the pedal is on, don't start the upload app until you get the notification from the computer that it sees the new USB device, then try.

[partsocaster]

thanks for the tip. nice print. i've got decay & fx level cranked & tone @ 9:00 for less intrusive modulation. halloffame_tc_multimodreverb is out of steam @ 5 seconds . i was hoping for something a little closer to the minutes of verb i get from my neunaber wet.

Dark church also has 20 seconds of decay

[lux_interior]

No one suggested that this is the TC support forum, but on more than one occasion, I have seen vendors who are members here (Wampler, Tore, Egnater) hop online to TGP and get folks on the right track so that their product is not unfairly judged or misunderstood.

Of course they want to help, but the necessary thing to do first is contact support immediately. The participation of company people here is a bonus, not their obligation, and you shouldn't expect them to see and solve every problem that is being addressed here... it's not the place for that. There is professional specialized advice for support matters elsewhere, and this just clogs impression threads. It's for these that I keep clicking on this thread and reading it, but if it gets too much "help me with this" posts then it will be a waste of time to keep checking it out for any user feedback anymore.

[Peeb]

Of course they want to help, but the necessary thing to do first is contact support immediately. The participation of company people here is a bonus, not their obligation, and you shouldn't expect them to see and solve every problem that is being addressed here... it's not the place for that. There is professional specialized advice for support matters elsewhere, and this just clogs impression threads. It's for these that I keep clicking on this thread and reading it, but if it gets too much "help me with this" posts then it will be a waste of time to keep checking it out for any user feedback anymore.
Dude made it pretty clear that he HAD already contact support is is awaiting response.

There are a ton of other suggestions made by users in this thread that might also help the guy out.

Chill. It's all good. Be well.

[lux_interior]

Of course, but if a problem is not easy to solve, who are we to know better than TC technicials? That's what I am saying (along with the points about the user feedback).

[Cosmogang]

Dark church also has 20 seconds of decay

Does "Dark Church" even exist?

I don't think it does.....but I want it to.......what a cool name.

[partsocaster]

Does "Dark Church" even exist?

I don't think it does.....but I want it to.......what a cool name.

I was probably thinking chorused church and it got all dark in my mind!

[nic'o'caster]

Since my Strymon BlueSky has become the main reverb for the Mixboards of my various bands I had a good reason to buy a new verb. The HOF is a seriously well engineered piece of gear I have to say. Everything is well thought. The only little things I don't like is the absence of spillover and the reverb selector button that is not so practical to use onstage (it's easy to get lost inbetween two positions). Other than that my tone keeps its integrity and the different reverbs are excellent. It's easy to dial a good sound in seconds. In comparison, the Strymon is more a tweaker dream.

About the toneprint system. I have a Mac and it works perfectly. Easier it couldn't be...

[phishead5941]

I downloaded the room with a view tonepirint and it worked awesome for ambient/ethereal stuff in a church setting. I got multiple complements on the "new" sound. I love the HOF. It is awesome.

[jb1911]

Room With a View is a beautiful thing.

[Muse FTW]

Out of curiosity, any word on shimmer yet?
I hate sounding like a broken record, but this is a major selling point to me.

[Bucksears]

Out of curiosity, any word on shimmer yet?
I hate sounding like a broken record, but this is a major selling point to me.

Ditto - for me, reverb is either a little added 'space', or crazy/ambient/ethereal. For now, looking at the Strymon.

[lux_interior]

Aren't there any trails when it is set to buffered bypass?

[Jacob Van Noy]

I still love Dark Hall! Such a solid sounding space, reminds me of killer Lexicon Hall reverbs. Room with a view is nice but I've found the modulated verb sound is becoming like the chorus of the '80s, so overused. Anyway still loving my HOF and it does do spill over if you run it in buffered bypass.

[Stevil]

I was probably thinking chorused church and it got all dark in my mind!

that's better.
still be happy to hear a longer decay if that's at all possible.

[Cosmogang]

Since my Strymon BlueSky has become the main reverb for the Mixboards of my various bands I had a good reason to buy a new verb. The HOF is a seriously well engineered piece of gear I have to say. Everything is well thought. The only little things I don't like is the absence of spillover and the reverb selector button that is not so practical to use onstage (it's easy to get lost inbetween two positions). Other than that my tone keeps its integrity and the different reverbs are excellent. It's easy to dial a good sound in seconds. In comparison, the Strymon is more a tweaker dream.

About the toneprint system. I have a Mac and it works perfectly. Easier it couldn't be...

It does have spillover. READ THE MANUAL. :aok

[ToneBum]

Can one of you guys who rave about the HOF come over to my studio and show me what I'm not hearing?! I really really want to like it but my RV7's hall setting kills the HOF in all positions. I'm actually sad about this! I do like that the HOF has some super long decay settings for ambient textural stuff (rv7 can't do that at all) and some of the prints are cool, but just the built in settings are pretty junky sounding to me. They're harsh when you throw OD in front of them and they're very "static" sounding. Hmmmm

[sutherland]

Can one of you guys who rave about the HOF come over to my studio and show me what I'm not hearing?! I really really want to like it but my RV7's hall setting kills the HOF in all positions. I'm actually sad about this! I do like that the HOF has some super long decay settings for ambient textural stuff (rv7 can't do that at all) and some of the prints are cool, but just the built in settings are pretty junky sounding to me. They're harsh when you throw OD in front of them and they're very "static" sounding. Hmmmm

or maybe it's the beauty of prefrence?!? the rv7 is an outstanding reverb.

[KevinFinn]

UPDATE FOR THOSE FOLLOWING MY STORY: Got my second computer (with a different OS) to "recognize" the Hall of Fame. Loaded up a print (Dark Hall, not that this part of the story matters), and took the pedal down to my rehearsal place. Thus far I hadn't played it at all, and was loading up a Toneprint I'd likely dig, since I knew the stock one wouldn't be useful to me.

The worst part of this is that I ran into the rehearsal space while my wife went to the store. I had very little time, but I plugged it in at the end of my chain after my RV-5, got my amp warmed up, etc.

I turned the rig on and I'm getting no signal. Then it sort of sputters in and out. I check cabling and such. Turn my amp on standby. Take the Hall of Fame out and turn it on again. Everything works. Turn the amp to standby and plug JUST in to the Hall of Fame (only it between me and amp). I turn everything on and it works. So I go back to standby, put the Hall of Fame in line again, and turn it all on... Sputtering in and out.

I'm really damn confused. It's a bizarre troubleshoot experience if ever there was one.

I have a hunch this particular unit had issues and got sent back out anyway (since they were likely intermittent and it may have "behaved" for whoever tested it). I ordered from Musician's Friend.

WHETHER ANYONE READ ALL THAT OR NOT, HERE'S MY NEW QUESTION:Did your HoF come wrapped in anything within its box? I ask because mine was in there with no plastic or anything, and I know this would be a good way to tell if it had an owner before me, since most pedals come in plastic.

[Sikor]

WHETHER ANYONE READ ALL THAT OR NOT, HERE'S MY NEW QUESTION:Did your HoF come wrapped in anything within its box? I ask because mine was in there with no plastic or anything, and I know this would be a good way to tell if it had an owner before me, since most pedals come in plastic.

I have 3 TonePrint pedals and they all came without plastic.

[RickB]

WHETHER ANYONE READ ALL THAT OR NOT, HERE'S MY NEW QUESTION:Did your HoF come wrapped in anything within its box? I ask because mine was in there with no plastic or anything, and I know this would be a good way to tell if it had an owner before me, since most pedals come in plastic.

I have 3 TonePrint pedals as well and none were wrapped in plastic however, did you happen to notice if there was a clear circle on the outside of the package that you had to cut open? All 3 of mine had the clear circle of tape that I cut through myself.

[L.R.T.W.]

Hello! I have just faced some problems concerning Hall of fame.
When I turn it on using battery, it works for 20 seconds and then it stops working by itself. After a while it could start working again, but with some kind of "brakes" - it could turn on/off itself in every moment without any dependence on my actions. BUT. It works properly with line adapter. I tried to change the battery, but it did not help. I am not alone with this problem - some people I know also have got the same trouble.
can you give some comments on this matter?
Thanks,
L.R.T.W.

[Geosh]

I have 3 TonePrint pedals as well and none were wrapped in plastic however, did you happen to notice if there was a clear circle on the outside of the package that you had to cut open? All 3 of mine had the clear circle of tape that I cut through myself.

Mine was the same. No wrapping inside, but I did have the little clear plastic sticker sealing the box that I had to remove.

[whattheadam]

Hello! I have just faced some problems concerning Hall of fame.
When I turn it on using battery, it works for 20 seconds and then it stops working by itself. After a while it could start working again, but with some kind of "brakes" - it could turn on/off itself in every moment without any dependence on my actions. BUT. It works properly with line adapter. I tried to change the battery, but it did not help. I am not alone with this problem - some people I know also have got the same trouble.
can you give some comments on this matter?
Thanks,
L.R.T.W.

The unit, although it has a battery jack inside, should probably just be run using a power supply. The battery lasts about 10 minutes in these things. The Hall of Fame says it uses 9v DC at 100mA... an average 9 volt battery has about 500mA for it's life. That = a really fast energy sap from this pedal.

[rochell59]

Just got one earlier today and it sounds REALLY good. No hype, just what everyone's been saying already. I really like the Chorused Church and Andy's Church. I wanted to like the Room With a View but Im not a fan of "large room" reverb and decay.
Andy's Church has some kind of filter sweep/flange going on that I'm not sure how I feel, and how it will project in a live setting. The Chorused Church modulation is too fast for my liking but I still have to check it out in a live setting as well.

[rochell59]

I too had trouble hooking it up to my mac.

I did this:

Plugged USB to pedal and computer with pedal off AND power supply unplugged.
Bring up the Toneprint program and it should recognize the pedal.
Once it has recognized it, it is ok to plug the power supply back in.

For some reason it wouldn't recognize the pedal if the power supply was plugged in before bringing up the program. It recognized it all of the times after that no problem though. :dunno

Also, the pedal is a bit noisy if not powered from it's designated power supply. Was a bit noisy from the daisy chain out of one of the PP2+ outlets.

[((TechnicolorSkyline))]

Both my HoF and Flashback work perfectly with my macbook pro. No problems whatsoever.

Usually keep them plugged into the mac while I'm playing so I can switch up toneprints to A/B

[JLee]

I don't care for the Spring setting either. Too clangy and metallic.
I take back everything I've said about the spring setting. Taking more time to dial it in and I can get it to sound more or less as legitimately "springy" as my V4's tube driven spring reverb and my newly received Demeter Reverbulator.

[jb1911]

I like the spring setting. You have to dial it in to sound good. Play around with the decay.

[KevinFinn]

So mine works now. All is fine... except it doesn't like being daisy chained, apparently. It was only with a few other pedals, and there were mA galore to spare, but the HoF wasn't digging it. Odd.

QUESTION: The manual mentions a "Cathedral" mode where my pedal has a "Gate" mode (the least useful mode, IMO). Was that some last minute change? I never heard the story and don't want to wade through dozens of pages to find it.

[jamison162]

Without going back and reading all 45 pages...is there a shimmer tone print yet?

[Phillip_H]

Without going back and reading all 45 pages...is there a shimmer tone print yet?

No. There isn't an octaver algorithm, so we won't be seeing any shimmer effects without a pretty substantial software update.

[Thewaker43]

Any gut shot? I would love to see inside of one.

[jb1911]

Any gut shot? I would love to see inside of one.

There's nothing to see but a blank wall of metal with a tapped hole in the middle for the battery screw and two switches.

[golfnutt67]

QUESTION: The manual mentions a "Cathedral" mode where my pedal has a "Gate" mode (the least useful mode, IMO). Was that some last minute change? I never heard the story and don't want to wade through dozens of pages to find it.

I just got mine last night and was thinking the same thing, but after a little research it looks like the Cathedral is a tone print and not a selectable type of reverb (although I dont see it offered yet, but on a video they talk about cathedral as a tone print)
But it is weird how they mention Cath in the manuall dont know if this helps but it all I've come up with so far

[pedrozepelim]

So mine works now. All is fine... except it doesn't like being daisy chained, apparently. It was only with a few other pedals, and there were mA galore to spare, but the HoF wasn't digging it. Odd.

I'm having the same problem.

[CaseyI]

I just ordered my HOF. It should be here today. Excited!

[ToneBum]

Seems like a new toneprint is up...or did I just not catch this in the last batch that was released?

TC MultiMod Verb. You can change the mod type with the tone knob! Yes! The tone control can now control other parameters than just tone...this is going to open up a lot more possibilities.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/toneprintdownload.asp?AjrDcmntId=12082

[mattekelly]

I think its been there since they released a bunch last week or so. I'm hoping there's eventually a sort function (such as By Date) added so that you can figure out what's new and what's old.

[jb1911]

Seems like a new toneprint is up...or did I just not catch this in the last batch that was released?

TC MultiMod Verb. You can change the mod type with the tone knob! Yes! The tone control can now control other parameters than just tone...this is going to open up a lot more possibilities.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/toneprintdownload.asp?AjrDcmntId=12082

I've had it since they released the first batch of toneprints for the HoF.

[Cosmogang]

I'm still waiting for the Room with a view "with less-deep modulation" that Tore said he would release...... wait....wait....wait....

[Occam]

Reverse reverb!!!

[ToneBum]

I've had it since they released the first batch of toneprints for the HoF.

oops...sorry all, I guess I just missed it : /

But it is cool that you can change more parameters with the tone control. Hopefully, since there's only one TonePrint slot, they'll design a really flexible print that you can adjust a lot with the other three knobs. Looking forward to what's to come!

...and yes, we need a way to see the release dates on these.

[td2243]

I still love Dark Hall! Such a solid sounding space, reminds me of killer Lexicon Hall reverbs. Room with a view is nice but I've found the modulated verb sound is becoming like the chorus of the '80s, so overused.


I don't own this pedal, so this might be a dumb question. With the HOF, you can only have the Dark Hall OR Room with a View on the pedal at once, correct? Like, you can't have more than one custom sound on the pedal right? Thanks

[td2243]

This pedal sounds cool, but the Blue Sky Reverb just seems designed for tweaking, whereas the TP sort of forces you to stay within each boxed sound. The favorite button on the Strymon is worth $100 alone. I'd love to sit and play with both pedals though.

[TREV FLINT]

I have been turned off of reverb pedals for a while because the ones I have tried altered my original tone in a non pleasing way. I want to try the HOF but I am gun-shy beacuse I don't want my tone altered. Does the HOF keep your original tone fully intact?

[KevinFinn]

Even with its own isolated power source, my HoF adds noise to the signal. I have it set to buffer because I lost high end when it was in true bypass (I have it at the end of my chain).

[mattekelly]

I don't own this pedal, so this might be a dumb question. With the HOF, you can only have the Dark Hall OR Room with a View on the pedal at once, correct? Like, you can't have more than one custom sound on the pedal right? Thanks

Yes, only one Toneprint at a time.

I have been turned off of reverb pedals for a while because the ones I have tried altered my original tone in a non pleasing way. I want to try the HOF but I am gun-shy beacuse I don't want my tone altered. Does the HOF keep your original tone fully intact?

The great thing about the HoF is that your dry signal passes through, untouched by any AD/DA converters. The reverb is simply added to your signal. There is no noticeable effect on your tone whatsoever.

Even with its own isolated power source, my HoF adds noise to the signal. I have it set to buffer because I lost high end when it was in true bypass (I have it at the end of my chain).

Have you thought about or tried to exchange your pedal? You seem to be the only one experiencing a lot of difficulties. Sounds like you got a bad one.

[td2243]

Thanks Matt. I guess every pedal will have its limits.

[dankayaker]

Maybe I missed this but will these pedals work in loops that normally require line level ?

[phishead5941]

Seems like a new toneprint is up...or did I just not catch this in the last batch that was released?

TC MultiMod Verb. You can change the mod type with the tone knob! Yes! The tone control can now control other parameters than just tone...this is going to open up a lot more possibilities.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/toneprintdownload.asp?AjrDcmntId=12082

The multimod verb toneprint is killer. I like it almost as much as room with a view. I'm looking foward to using it live this sunday.

[Roe]

Maybe I missed this but will these pedals work in loops that normally require line level ?

yes, w/o adjustment

[cubistguitar]

just got mine yesterday

can't believe how sweet this is for 149.00

best verb sounds i have ever owned

[Last]

Mine just shipped! :drool

Wondering if this will kick my WET off my board?

The BSR left a while back, great pedal just too much for what I needed.

Also grabbed the Flashback in place of my El Cap.

Damn, feels like I'm downsizing but in reality these TC Pedals are just as nice & much easier to find than the boutiques!

Looking forward to this!

[theroan]

Is anyone stacking the RV-5 with the HoF or using two HoFs?

[Justin Gadell]

Q99nddKbKeQ

thats the rv-5 stacked with the hall of fame but also a lexicon mx200...ive thoguht about buying another hall of fame

[ttasselm]

Mine just shipped! :drool

Wondering if this will kick my WET off my board?

The WET kicked the HoF off of my board, haha. The WET's tail and decay just sounds more dynamic and interesting to my ear. Interesting enough for me to get 2 of them, in fact.

The Hall of Fame is still a really great pedal, though...would like to get another one someday to mess around with at times. Can't beat the value.

[padwell]

Q99nddKbKeQ

thats the rv-5 stacked with the hall of fame but also a lexicon mx200...ive thoguht about buying another hall of fame

That was so cool!

[Justin Gadell]

thank you padwell

[spirit mt1]

I ordered mine weeks ago, still not in !!! everyplace is out of stock.

[TheReverendCommon]

thought about it for the "lo-fi" sound, but it didn't sound all that great to me...

but everything else sounds awesome... i just don't use reverb for anything other than shimmer right now

[Jay Filippone]

...I have it set to buffer because I lost high end when it was in true bypass ...

Thanks for the tip.

[DanHorse]

Q99nddKbKeQ

thats the rv-5 stacked with the hall of fame but also a lexicon mx200...ive thoguht about buying another hall of fame

Nice Justin! reminded me of 2001 A Space Odyssey for some reason, really puts you in a different frame of mind ;)

[Stevil]

The WET kicked the HoF off of my board, haha. The WET's tail and decay just sounds more dynamic and interesting to my ear. Interesting enough for me to get 2 of them, in fact.

The Hall of Fame is still a really great pedal, though...would like to get another one someday to mess around with at times. Can't beat the value.

+1
i'm tempted to dump the HoF, still holding out for the build your own toneprint software, i'm really curious about where it's limits are before I move on.

[oxtone]

I ordered mine weeks ago, still not in !!! everyplace is out of stock.

Dido - I've been waiting 3-4 weeks now for my Hall of Fame to arrive at a local dealer. Sure is taking too long. But, I saw one at another dealer the other day...but I'm holding out, as the original dealer will give me a better deal.

[Seakayak]

Maybe I missed this but will these pedals work in loops that normally require line level ?

Underneath the back plate there are 2 dip-switches - Bypass Mode and Kill Dry, which control how the signal is routed, depending on signal path and length. Explained in owners manual. Not sure if these would help with regards to loops with a line level signal.
I'm waiting to recieve mine, hoping it will be ok in my Mesa F-50 parallel loop!

[EdMan57]

...I'm waiting to recieve mine, hoping it will be ok in my Mesa F-50 parallel loop!...

It should work just fine in your Mesa F-50's parallel effects loop with the kill dry engaged.



Ed

[oxtone]

Picking up my Hall of Fame pedal today! Looking forward to using it...;)

[Last]

Well I traded my WET for an Alpha & have been playing with the HOF for a while now.

I've got to admit it wasn't as easy to play around & get a great sound almost anywhere on the dial(s) as the WET but Daaayum when you do!!!!!

Patience & perseverance pays off in SPADES with the HOF!

Initially I thought I had made a mistake by trading the WET but the Alpha is equally as mind blowing!

Now I've got to pick 'n choose between my newly acquired Alpha or my 'ol friend the ZEN. Really don't need both. :huh

[Seakayak]

It should work just fine in your Mesa F-50's parallel effects loop with the kill dry engaged.

Ed

Thanks, just got the F-50 ( great amp, happy as a clam! ) and am still searching for specs. Will contact Mesa.

[theroan]

What is this Alpha pedal you speak of?

[Last]

Alpha Newest D Style Pedal (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=860233)

[dnauhei]

After a long quest for the perfect reverb pedal, I have obtained an HOF. I am very happy. Very clear, quiet pedal. This pedal enhances the tone of my rig a great deal. My Verbzilla and my RV-3 are now on the chopping block.

I am not feeling the spring reverb, however. :)

TC Nova--please give us a Toneprint with a better spring reverb, ala Hermida reverb.

Then the HOF this will be the perfect pedal!

Tore . . . . are you there . . . . ?

Thank you for a great pedal!

[jcbranam]

So how is everyone liking the 'bigger room with a view' toneprint?

[Daka3]

Not so much, unfortunately. Modulation still to pulsing and dominating to my ears. Picking up a WET tomorrow.

[papersoul]

I am getting a Digitech Hardwire Reverb. Anyone know how this HOF Reverb compares? I like a darker reverb!

I also heard reports of the HOF not cutting through the mix.

[DanHorse]

I am getting a Digitech Hardwire Reverb. Anyone know how this HOF Reverb compares? I like a darker reverb!

I also heard reports of the HOF not cutting through the mix.

I have a HOF, and to me it does have a slightly bright character, but a lot of settings and toneprints you can dial it out - though at the expense of detail maybe.



What do you think guys?

[papersoul]

Dan, in another thread running right now....another guy said the HOF is very dark. LOL.

[jb1911]

The Hall of Fame that I have has a TONE knob on it.

[DanHorse]

Dan, in another thread running right now....another guy said the HOF is very dark. LOL.

yeah i know! i think its bright, or if not bright, light sounding.

[DanHorse]

The Hall of Fame that I have has a TONE knob on it.

Well done!

[EdMan57]

I'm thinking that since the pedal has total bypass of the amp's dry signal that any "lost in the mix" concern would be due to the amp itself.Maybe I'm wrong?





Ed

[shooto]

question- can the HOF do deep, spacey, cavernous, ambiant reverb?

thanks!

[hotraman]

question- can the HOF do deep, spacey, cavernous, ambiant reverb?

thanks!

Yes it can... but it does take some time to dial it in. IMO, its not a dark sounding reverb, even when you roll the tone knob back. I still like this pedal, though I'm not a big reverb user.

[GtrWiz]

are there any better spring reverb toneprints?

[papersoul]

Yes it can... but it does take some time to dial it in. IMO, its not a dark sounding reverb, even when you roll the tone knob back. I still like this pedal, though I'm not a big reverb user.

I want which ever is darker, or on the darker side (NOT BRIGHT! LOL) between it and the Hardwire. However, I have limited space on my board so for now am going with the HOF.

[papersoul]

Just got the Hall Of Fame reverb. LOVE it! Played it about an hour or so! Can't wait to use it with the band.

Very rich and full, fairly neutral...not too dark nor bright....just right but can be made on the darfk or bright side - subtle but nice. I love the Hall and Church settings. I use Hall the most and will probably keep it there!
It sounds so natural. I like it much more than the WET Reverb I had before. I also picked up a Hardwire and I prefer the HOF, sounds really natural...plus it fits on my board, the HW is too large.

I am wondering about the true bypass. It is the last pedal in my chain in the loop before going back to the loop in on the head. Will it have enough juice to push a signal through 20' of cable back to the head? Seems to but maybe I am losing some juice along the way. I use a 20th Bogner Shiva which has a tube bufferred loop and a new Reborn Mesa Dual Recticier. Soon to have a Mesa Mark V as well.

[papersoul]

bumper

[lloyd17]

Just got my HOF a few days ago and I am pretty impressed. Lots of great reverb sounds and a TONE KNOB which fixes my only complaint about the RRR: some of those verbs were just too ringy. I'd like to see a very drippy and wet spring toneprint for surf but other than that I have no complaints. Excellent all around reverb pedal.

[papersoul]

I like this better than the Wet reverb I had.

[thesooze]

Just got mine, really like Hall and Church the best-- don't really care for a ton of modulation on my reverb.

The TonePrint I settled on was the Dark Hall reverb-- really nice sounds with plenty of decay on tap. Both Room w/ a View TonePrints were awesome-- just a bit much modulation for me.

If you're into mod on your reverb, try the MultiMod TonePrint. Sounded pretty sweet.

[papersoul]

Just got mine, really like Hall and Church the best-- don't really care for a ton of modulation on my reverb.

The TonePrint I settled on was the Dark Hall reverb-- really nice sounds with plenty of decay on tap. Both Room w/ a View TonePrints were awesome-- just a bit much modulation for me.

If you're into mod on your reverb, try the MultiMod TonePrint. Sounded pretty sweet.

How do you get the Toneprint reverbs? I just bought it to use as a standard reverb pedal, wasn't going to mess with any of the Toneprint stuff. I ask now because the Dark Hall reverb sounds like my cup of tea. :)

[vicenzajay]

I know a million (just exaggerating) folks have already asked, but I'll ask again:

How about a shimmer toneprint? This is the one thing I'm waiting for before buying this pedal.

[vicenzajay]

No. There isn't an octaver algorithm, so we won't be seeing any shimmer effects without a pretty substantial software update.
Hmmm...

Someone soon is going to corner a particular market with a small footprint ambient reverb pedal that specializes in shimmer and ambient, cathedral stuff. Was hoping this one might cover it with a toneprint....oh well.

[DanHorse]

I know a million (just exaggerating) folks have already asked, but I'll ask again:

How about a shimmer toneprint? This is the one thing I'm waiting for before buying this pedal.

Is shimmer the same as infinite plate?

[dave12]

Is shimmer the same as infinite plate?

No, shimmer adds octaves to the verb...at least from what I've seen, it's often added on top of a plate mode, but infinite plate is different.

[DanHorse]

No, shimmer adds octaves to the verb...at least from what I've seen, it's often added on top of a plate mode, but infinite plate is different.

Thanks mate, so the shimmer mode isnt inifinite per se?

[jamison162]

Foregoing the shimmer stuff, has anyone compared the HOF to the Verbzilla for ambient stuff and volume swells?

[VinceM]

+1 on a HOF vs Verbzilla comparison

I just did a shoot out with my Verbzilla and Wet Reverb and felt the Verbzilla was muddy in comparison. Interestingly, my Echo Park compared more favorably for adding a nice clear ambience.

But I'm not sure if it is the Verbzilla that's muddy or the Wet that's bright! But I still feel the Wet preserves my original tone much better.

I'd prefer to save a few bucks and gain some functionality and tonal flexibility if the HOF also provides a nice clear reverb. I just can't stand high end rolloff.

[dave12]

Thanks mate, so the shimmer mode isnt inifinite per se?


No, not really. Shimmer just adds the octaves to the verb. The 'infinite' just describes the decay time (or lack thereof if you think about it in terms of it decaying).

For example, the Strymon BSR goes into infinite plate mode with the decay/trails knob dimed (and with the plate mode selected, of course).

What kind of reverb are you using?

[papersoul]

The HOF is AMAZING!

[Craig64]

As soon as there is a Tone Print that approximates the Octo setting on the Verbzilla or does the shimmer thing, the HOF will join the Flashback on my board.

[Martin82]

How do you get the Toneprint reverbs? I just bought it to use as a standard reverb pedal, wasn't going to mess with any of the Toneprint stuff. I ask now because the Dark Hall reverb sounds like my cup of tea. :)

Just go to the TCE site and go to the toneprints page. I think there are 13 different tonerprints to download. Save them to your computer. Then connect your HOF to an external power supply, plug in the usb chord. Execute the small program contained in each toneprint. This takes all of 30 secs.

[Island3r]

As soon as there is a Tone Print that approximates the Octo setting on the Verbzilla or does the shimmer thing, the HOF will join the Flashback on my board.

I came here to post this.
Has Tore commented on the possibility of shimmer?

[frozze]

I came here to post this.
Has Tore commented on the possibility of shimmer?

I'd like to know that too!

[whattheadam]

Here's from another thread:

Yes, currently we're not able to do a real shimmer effect on the HOF. I'd love to be able to - and it would definitely be possible via a software update, but I can't make any promises at this point... we are working on a ton of new stuff, so it's hard to fit something like this into an already tight schedule.

CHeers,
Tore

[papersoul]

Just go to the TCE site and go to the toneprints page. I think there are 13 different tonerprints to download. Save them to your computer. Then connect your HOF to an external power supply, plug in the usb chord. Execute the small program contained in each toneprint. This takes all of 30 secs.

Love it! The Dark Hall ROCKS! GREAT Reverb pedal!!!!

[Digitalman]

Just got one this week, killer pedal! Haven't messed with Toneprints yet, but I'm really into the church, hall and plates. Studio quality stuffed into a small pedal, and it goes nice with my Nova delay. I was torn between the BSR and the RRR and I'm glad this came along.

[papersoul]

The church, hall and Dark Reverb toneprint are great! This pedal is every bit as good as any reverb I tried but smaller! Whoohoo! Better bang for the buck than the T-Rex Reverb I tried. Toneprint idea rocks. Would love to try their other pedals but I am in love with my Carbon Copy delay and Choralflange.

[tashiattack]

I may have already said this before, but I really hope they develop a reverse reverb toneprint, because then I will buy this pedal in a heart beat!

[sick1982]

Can it do this kind of really wet surf sound? Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHdiffll7vU