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tildeslash
01-28-2011, 01:15 PM
Saw a Youtube video of him stating that he placed his guitar in a freezer overnight hoping that it would change it somehow at a molecular level.
Turns out it was just a bad ground someplace.
Granted if the cold damaged his guitar he could have easily gotten another one as he is rich bitch.
So... should I also try to place one of my guitars in the freezer overnight.
What are the negatives? I guess if it survives that would mean the wood is especially good and that it should not give me any trouble in the future.
But is this something to be done?
Imaging how many of us boiled our strings when Eddie said he did that.
I figured if Mayer say place it in the freezer - why not try it?
Right?
Tone-Control
01-28-2011, 01:27 PM
What would be the positive?
rwijaya
01-28-2011, 01:27 PM
:munch
Blanket Jackson
01-28-2011, 01:28 PM
meh. I'm going back to sleep.
brickerenator
01-28-2011, 01:28 PM
I heard SRV threw his picks off of a cliff before using them.
Alpedra
01-28-2011, 01:29 PM
Or he could just be joking around and didnīt place any guitar in the freezer.
Sometimes he just makes up stories just for the kick of it. Heīs known for that... I would take many of the things he says with a grain of salt.
;)
tildeslash
01-28-2011, 01:30 PM
No I don't think John Mayer would lie about guitars.
Banging chicks - he would but not guitars.
travisvwright
01-28-2011, 01:31 PM
And even he said it was a stupid idea that did nothing, now burning it would at least do something, try leaving it in your lit fireplace over night.
Be bold - put in in the microwave oven for a minute or two.
Pippers
01-28-2011, 01:32 PM
Boil your guitar and stick your strings in the freezer.
travisvwright
01-28-2011, 01:33 PM
Something about that was fishy. It seemed like an Ad for Fender CS guitars, but it sounded so bad he was willing to try anything no matter how stupid, and then they admit they deleivered a Custom guitar to JM with poor soldering? Was that supposed to make us want one?
oldgtarz
01-28-2011, 01:33 PM
Makes sense, any leftover water will freeze and the volume will increase, making the water pockets slightly bigger and thus creating additional tone chambers. :D
Tone-Control
01-28-2011, 01:34 PM
Something about that was fishy. It seemed like an Ad for Fender CS guitars, but then they deleivered a Custom guitar to JM with poor soldering? Was that supposed to make us want one?
Exactly, just like the set of Texas Specials in his SRV strat were wound incorrectly resulting in a mid scooped tone. Don't believe it. But, I dig Mayer and his tones.
I actually did lol when I read the OP.
Section10
01-28-2011, 01:36 PM
First, compare what John Mayers makes a year with what you make. Then put delicate wooden made guitar in a freezer.
Makes sense, any leftover water will freeze and the volume will increase, making the water pockets slightly bigger and thus creating additional tone chambers. :D
Exactly! Rather than have large, routed chambers, what oldgtarz is talking about creates millions of NaNoChambers(tm) that increase that magical chambered tone throughout ever millimeter of the guitar instead of only one or two big places.
It also helps realign the metal strains in the frets and strings to the magnetic north pole so that everything is parallel. This leads to more of a gritty tone when bending but slides are effortless.
pinhooker
01-28-2011, 01:44 PM
This is by far the most sad OP I've ever read
rickc007
01-28-2011, 01:49 PM
Freezing is the who theory behind Cryogenic freezing
There was also the theory on really playing the daylights out
of an acoustic guitar, or making it vibrate.
The "di-poles" line up or what not
Supposed to make it more resonant
I doubt Mayer's freezer is cold enough
Then again, it's John Mayer
Mayer is God
Ayrton
01-28-2011, 01:50 PM
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc123/ayrton252001/Pics%20and%20Gifs/03e297805251b807d6f672dd09a4a0b5.gif
taez555
01-28-2011, 01:50 PM
Considering most trees naturally go through extremes in temperatures, by putting it in the freezer you're simply bringing the wood back to its natural, "organic", state.
I've found it improves the tone and my playing of Jam band music by at least 18%.
fenderball
01-28-2011, 01:52 PM
i thought EVERYBODY puts their guitar into the freezer...where else do you keep it when you aren't playing it?
Yes - this was in the video put out by the fender custom shop that built that guitar.
It goes like this -
he visited after a tour to "build it" where the staff instructed him how to use a few tools and press buttons.
Months or weeks later he got the thing and was disappointed with how lively it was/was not.
He was bummed out and thought to himself that if he stuck it in his freezer (double door type with long freezer side). He took out all the shelves and stuck it in there over night.
Brought it out the next day and noticed no change.
Then he found after opening it up, there was a ground connection off...
Taking out of the freezer is where this starts.
ElCa5xaay5Y
Imagine how many fudgecicles met an undigested drippy death that night as they sat in his kitchen sink... all because of a whim to freeze a guitar.
tragic.
buddastrat
01-28-2011, 01:55 PM
I remember when I was a kid in the 80's, interview with Loverboy guitarist, he said he used to put his guitars in the oven and stuff. So maybe mayor is goin' for the opposite of Loverboy's tone. Oh yeah, gullible is not in the dictionary either.
Ruraltom
01-28-2011, 01:57 PM
I don't know about Strats but....When I was just starting to learn some old ZZ Top licks, I braised my '59 Lp to give my tone a little of that spicy, piquante Tejas sizzle. Really worked wonders! Oddly, braising my old Selmer in Tappist ale did nothing in my perfection of the Django repertiore.
travisvwright
01-28-2011, 01:57 PM
Just seemed to me to reflect very poorly on Fender CS.
SuperSonic
01-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Just seemed to me to reflect very poorly on Fender CS.
What is worse is that no one at Fender even got that point. What marketing genius said "what a wonderful story about us delivering a crappy guitar to John Mayer, we should post that on our web site".
NR2112
01-28-2011, 02:05 PM
No I don't think John Mayer would lie about guitars.
Banging chicks - he would but not guitars.
:roll:roll:roll
robbinsteele
01-28-2011, 02:07 PM
fenderball....you ain't right.....
dspellman
01-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Exactly! Rather than have large, routed chambers, what oldgtarz is talking about creates millions of NaNoChambers(tm) that increase that magical chambered tone throughout ever millimeter of the guitar instead of only one or two big places.
Our lawyers will be contacting you Monday regarding a cease and desist order restraining you from using "NaNoChambers" as a trademark. Whereas "Nanoo Nanoo" has been used for garons on my planet as a greeting, there are a wide variety of offshoots, colloquialisms and downright bastardizations of that greeting coupled with other words to create new ones, and so on, and "NaNoChambers" has already been taken and trademarked (with the devices themselves patented, copyrighted and submitted to...well, humans can't actually pronounce that word, lacking a griplatch glottal gorn...) within the known universe. Well, except, of course, for Necroton, where all the women come equipped with NaNoChambers already.
ImmortalSix
01-28-2011, 02:16 PM
_mD-ryx60Cw
I friggin love that movie.
Hwoltage
01-28-2011, 02:20 PM
John Mayer placing his guitar in the freezer = :bong
AbstractLunatic
01-28-2011, 02:21 PM
Back in High School, I gave my guitar acid. It played way trippier after that.
cap217
01-28-2011, 02:23 PM
I stated in the other thread that I did somthing similar. I had a fender squire in my basement when it flooded. I put all the stuff in the garage for the insurance company to sort out. It was winter here in Cleveland and stuff froze. I got a check and kept all my stuff. A lot was ruined but the squire just sounded better. Even kept the same strings on it for 2 years. Left it sit by my computer as a junk guitar and even my friends would come over and say "wow". Something happened that made it amazing... This is the truth! I have custom shops and R8's and Es175's and this feels and plays better than all of them.
Wagster
01-28-2011, 02:24 PM
No I don't think John Mayer would lie about guitars.
Banging chicks - he would but not guitars.Yeah you're right. He's got the whole freezer tone down. It's too bad that he has to lie about banging chics. The guy's never gonna get a date.
AnthonyL
01-28-2011, 02:30 PM
Isn't that how the relic guys check the finish?
larimar
01-28-2011, 02:33 PM
Makes your tone meatier......
oneleftnut
01-28-2011, 02:47 PM
You all have it wrong........clearly blanching your guitar is the way to go. Quick boil then cold ice water bath. Or crock pot low and slow. Tone that falls right off the bone.
Copper_Head
01-28-2011, 02:53 PM
I seared my Fender to lock in the juicy tone.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/guitarzan_1/Gear/IMG_7072.jpg
tapeworm
01-28-2011, 03:01 PM
Not a fan of his, a very good player yes, but if he puts his guitars in the freezer that is all the reason I need to NOT do it to my guitar. I want to get as far away from John Mayer and doing anything like he does it as possible. Again, very good player, but I am not trying to do anything like he does.
grateful.ed
01-28-2011, 03:07 PM
Talk about ice-pick tone
nickthenail
01-28-2011, 03:13 PM
Try keeping guitar room temperature and spending the night in the freezer.
devnulljp
01-28-2011, 03:15 PM
What would be the positive?It would make it cold? :dunno
Catmouth
01-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Douches, now in the freezer section.
EADGBE
01-28-2011, 03:38 PM
So... should I also try to place one of my guitars in the freezer overnight.
If you want to ruin it then yes by all means.
909one
01-28-2011, 03:43 PM
I really hope this is sarcasm.
If it isn't I will never come on this forum again.
BigViolin
01-28-2011, 04:04 PM
Not sure why an unsoldered ground is a big deal or necessarily a bad reflection on the Fender CS in the context of a big name talking about an iconic instrument.
We've seen much worse.
Saw a Youtube video of him stating that he placed his guitar in a freezer overnight hoping that it would change it somehow at a molecular level.
Turns out it was just a bad ground someplace.
I can't imagine how a person with his guitar experience would hear the effects of bad wiring and make the leap to putting it in a freezer. I wonder if they asked him for an endorsement clip and he said that to be a smart ass. I've seen people do this before, and sure enough, marketing still uses it.
Drowned Rabbit
01-28-2011, 04:06 PM
I just ordered a Two Rock Custom John Mayer Signature Guitar Freezer complete with highly-figured exotic-wood String-Crisper.
bobmeredith
01-28-2011, 04:07 PM
It's a pisstake guys. Not that I needed to tell any of you that.:D
He's sending up the cryogenic string crowd, cold rolled steel fans, and most particularly........... US!
If you visit the sax on the web forum and do a search for cryogenic you'll find dozens of posts where people were seriously considering freezing their saxes.
Even though metallurgists have told them it doesn't affect Brass/alloys.
If it's true about Mayer, full points to him for humour of Spinal Tap proportions!
Jim S
01-28-2011, 04:07 PM
You could play a lot of Albert Mr Frozen Alive Collins or SRV's Cold Shot; Foreigner's Cold as Ice, etc ad infinitum.
mattymel
01-28-2011, 04:26 PM
too bad Mayer didnt lock himself in the freezer in the process...
leigh
01-28-2011, 04:27 PM
Yeah, it makes them sound better... The molecules in the guitar react to the temperature of the average household deep freeze yielding great results. best to only freeze one guitar at a time, take out all the racks, and try to stand it upright as much as possible without actually using a stand.
If you have ever seen the movie transformers, pretty much the same thing happens to a strat that happens to optimus prime when he is transforming... Only at a molecular level. Each molecule essentially gets jolted to life, becomes self actualizing. Upon realization that it is a molecule in a guitar, it then develops a sense of goal establishment, and wants to accomplish as much as it can, knowing that it may only have a short amount of time to do so.
Now all the billions of little molecules have a goal, and the means to become something more. This is where they start to interact, being that they are self actualized, goal oriented molecules, they realize the only way to get ahead is to work together. The molecules in the finish determine weather or not they would look best checked or unchecked. The molecules in the pickup selecting switch figure out where exactly the best position to be in would be, given the common desired tones. The neck will form a rigidity that in conjunction with the strings will assure never having to do another truss rod adjustment. Coincidentally, you'll also never have to do another string change, as the grouped molecules in the strings will have formed a foreign object resistance, similar to flat wounds, but not to worry, they'll sound perfect.
Lots of benefits to freezing a whole guitar... All totally reversible as well... All you have to do is refreeze it, on the hottest, and most humid of summer days. Immediately after the point of freezing lay the guitar out on some black concrete... Back to new.
*If you actually do any of this, don't blame me, blame your personal lack of judgment.*
...
Well that, or your nearly insane love and trust of John mayer.
John Mayer doesn't impress me...
tapeworm
01-28-2011, 04:42 PM
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3553/1393239288db3b3e1f74.jpg
BUFFALO BOB
01-28-2011, 04:47 PM
some folks do that to relic their guitars bodies...from one exstreme temp to another will cause the finish to check...other than that, it's stupid..
PLAYLOUD
01-28-2011, 04:56 PM
OMG!! he probably put it in the freezer so that when it hit warmer air the finish would shatter. Instant relic.
Tuberattler
01-28-2011, 05:05 PM
I seared my Fender to lock in the juicy tone.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/guitarzan_1/Gear/IMG_7072.jpg
Not only did you burn this nice Tele's ass but then you throw it face down on sharp gravel... shameful behaviour in my book.. although I like the big head stock so there is some redeeming things about this picture:aok
aliensporebomb
01-28-2011, 05:12 PM
Mayer must be a nutcase. It's the only explanation I can come up with. He dated too many actress/model types and it drove him insane.
Brett Faust
01-28-2011, 05:14 PM
This talk about freezing a guitar is half baked.
On the other hand, if you were baked it might sound more plausible.
Copper_Head
01-28-2011, 05:32 PM
Not only did you burn this nice Tele's ass but then you throw it face down on sharp gravel... shameful behaviour in my book.. although I like the big head stock so there is some redeeming things about this picture:aok
LOL:roll
blind radish
01-30-2011, 07:17 AM
Get out the bacon ....
Bloomfield fan
01-30-2011, 07:45 AM
perhaps the freezer was to distress the finish or he said it as a joke to stir you guys up. I am sure either way he has read this and is laughing. He finds much of the discussion/debates about him amusing.
wholetone
01-30-2011, 07:55 AM
Maybe he put in the same freezer with Walt Disney.
Pierrotleloup
01-30-2011, 08:15 AM
Wow, I've always been interested by sado-maso stuff...this kind of punition to a guitar seems veeeeery perverse...yeah!
tapeworm
01-30-2011, 08:23 AM
perhaps the freezer was to distress the finish or he said it as a joke to stir you guys up. I am sure either way he has read this and is laughing. He finds much of the discussion/debates about him amusing.
"Celebrities", That's what they all say when someone is talking about them, when in actuality it burns them up inside. Trait of an egomaniac.
101Volts
01-30-2011, 08:29 AM
some folks do that to relic their guitars bodies...from one exstreme temp to another will cause the finish to check...other than that, it's stupid..
Why hasn't anyone taken note of this? (I noticed the person who said this on page 3 as well) Its true, After a Nitro finish has been finished (Off the top of my head I can't remember how dry it has to be) One can leave the guitar body in a freezer and then the finish will start checking in a natural way.
(Edited because I noticed I wrote something incorrectly)
tapeworm
01-30-2011, 08:34 AM
Why hasn't anyone taken note of this? (I noticed the person who said this on page 3 as well) Its true, After a nitro coat has been sprayed (Off the top of my head I can't remember how dry it has to be) One can leave the guitar body in a freezer and then the finish will start checking in a natural way.
because Mayer would never do this himself, he would have someone else do it
Derek Q
01-30-2011, 08:35 AM
That's nothing. Hendrix flame-broiled his.
Polynitro
01-30-2011, 08:37 AM
maybe it had crabs?
bluesjuke
01-30-2011, 08:49 AM
It's a pisstake guys. Not that I needed to tell any of you that.:D
He's sending up the cryogenic string crowd, cold rolled steel fans, and most particularly........... US!
If it's true about Mayer, full points to him for humour of Spinal Tap proportions!
My impression too and I only had to read the thread title to see that.
It's a pisstake guys. Not that I needed to tell any of you that.:D
Yeah, no kidding... hey, um... I'll be right back... gotta run to the kitchen to get some ice.
AaeCee
01-30-2011, 10:12 AM
He did it because he was disappointed in the sound of his new CS guitar and was desperate to try and find something to help it. In the end, he (and a tech) figured out that the pickups weren't wired correctly, fixed it, and it sounded fantastic. So the freeze treatment really did nothing other that adding some personality and mojo.
dspellman
01-30-2011, 10:17 AM
Saw a Youtube video of him stating that he placed his guitar in a freezer overnight hoping that it would change it somehow at a molecular level.I figured if Mayer say place it in the freezer - why not try it?
Right?
In this case, he has no clue what he's talking about.
There's certainly cryo treatment of metals that will change the alignment of molecules within metal, but that's done with liquid nitrogen at temperatures FAR below what you get in your fridge's freezer section.
This, however, is something like tossing your guitar into a bathtub full of water because someone told you your guitar needed humidification.
Mayer's much better at playing a guitar than at molecular physics. And bear in mind that he has much more money than you do (probably) for replacement of gear that he's effed up in some misguided foray into junk science.
FiestaRed
01-30-2011, 10:20 AM
Now if he would just put his head in the oven.........`
dspellman
01-30-2011, 10:23 AM
Why hasn't anyone taken note of this? (I noticed the person who said this on page 3 as well) Its true, After a Nitro finish has been finished (Off the top of my head I can't remember how dry it has to be) One can leave the guitar body in a freezer and then the finish will start checking in a natural way.
(Edited because I noticed I wrote something incorrectly)
If you take a nitro-finished guitar down to below freezing, it may check. Or not. Do the same thing and then give it a nice whack and you may find the finish crazing like a windshield hit with a baseball. Or not. I've seen it happen after a night stuck in a trailer in an Iowa winter. Slid off an amp onto the butt end of its case. Eventually refinished, looked like new.
Flyin' Brian
01-30-2011, 10:24 AM
A guy I know did the opposite and tossed his Yamaha 12 string on the barbie for a few minutes. Surprisingly it still played pretty well.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/brian329/spring08014-1.jpg
Guitarworks
01-30-2011, 10:59 AM
Granted if the cold damaged his guitar he could have easily gotten another one as he is rich bitch.
John Mayer probably doesn't even get to keep half the money the makes. I'll bet his taxes are huge at the end of the year.
As for the supposed freezer gimmick, I can't see what the benefit could possibly be. Like Eddie and the "turned-up" variac (which, BTW, he discovered by accidentally plugging his Marshall into a wall socket controlled by a dimmer switch and reduced the voltage to get the 'brown sound'), it sounds like a dispersal of disinformation, and a lame one at that.
VaughnC
01-30-2011, 12:38 PM
Vintage Strats tend to sound better than their modern counterparts, at least to my ears...so maybe this freezing thing has merit. Back in the day, when I first started this silly guitar/band stuff (in the 60's), we were far less anal about our gear. Our guitars would constantly go back & forth between sub-freezing car trunks and humid, musty old bar rooms...and they would occasionally stay in a sub-freezing trunk for 2 weeks if we didn't have a gig that weekend. Could all those years of rapid temperature & humidity changes have contributed to that "vintage tone" we guitar players often talk about?
Polynitro
01-30-2011, 01:19 PM
the idea that John Mayer would need to relic a nitro guitar is laughable, why wouldnt he just take it on tour? :dunno Kind of like an Army guy buying distressed boots.
57special
01-30-2011, 01:22 PM
Forget the guitar, go straight to then source. Stick your hands in a freezer overnight!
Hwoltage
01-30-2011, 01:39 PM
If you take a nitro-finished guitar down to below freezing, it may check. Or not. Do the same thing and then give it a nice whack and you may find the finish crazing like a windshield hit with a baseball. Or not. I've seen it happen after a night stuck in a trailer in an Iowa winter. Slid off an amp onto the butt end of its case. Eventually refinished, looked like new.
You can also warm it up a hair dryer or a torch and hit it with a can of the pressurized air you use to clean your KB. I know a guy who did that recently and it turned out great.
tapeworm
01-30-2011, 01:44 PM
the idea that John Mayer would need to relic a nitro guitar is laughable, why wouldnt he just take it on tour? :dunno Kind of like an Army guy buying distressed boots.
Mayer wouldn't be able to relic a guitar that heavily after one year or even 2 years on tour. A heavy relic like you see on TBO or coming out of the Custom Shop takes a decade if not decades.
caspersvapors
01-30-2011, 01:48 PM
Saw a Youtube video of him stating that he placed his guitar in a freezer overnight hoping that it would change it somehow at a molecular level.
Turns out it was just a bad ground someplace.
Granted if the cold damaged his guitar he could have easily gotten another one as he is rich bitch.
So... should I also try to place one of my guitars in the freezer overnight.
What are the negatives? I guess if it survives that would mean the wood is especially good and that it should not give me any trouble in the future.
But is this something to be done?
Imaging how many of us boiled our strings when Eddie said he did that.
I figured if Mayer say place it in the freezer - why not try it?
Right?
because it didnt change anything?
Guitar Slinger6
01-30-2011, 03:02 PM
Vintage Strats tend to sound better than their modern counterparts, at least to my ears...so maybe this freezing thing has merit. Back in the day, when I first started this silly guitar/band stuff (in the 60's), we were far less anal about our gear. Our guitars would constantly go back & forth between sub-freezing car trunks and humid, musty old bar rooms...and they would occasionally stay in a sub-freezing trunk for 2 weeks if we didn't have a gig that weekend. Could all those years of rapid temperature & humidity changes have contributed to that "vintage tone" we guitar players often talk about?
Good point!
sahhas
01-30-2011, 03:11 PM
i read that he his tour last yr grossed 49 mil$, i guess he can do what ever he wants to his guitars...
for some reason this reminds me of some hair metal guitarist from back in late 80s/early 90s who would put his guitars in a smokehouse b/c he thought it aged them quicker. can't remember the guitarist...
to each their own i guess...
DoctorBob
01-30-2011, 04:18 PM
When I was 18 (in 1973) I scored a '52 Goldtop that had been painted with housepaint. I had it refinished sunburst. Driving cross country I left it in the trunk of my Pinto overnite while in Cleveland when it was way below freezing.Next day pulled it out of the case and it was 100% weatherchecked. Bummed at first but ultimately thought it looked cool.(Unrelated to cold issue:played a gig ,left it in case closed but unlatched, drummer picks up case, geetar splats on concrete floor.That was not cool). Man-I just told #2 real dumb DoctorBob stories...Wish I had that geetar now though-wunnerful p-90's
Cornbread
01-30-2011, 04:33 PM
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc123/ayrton252001/Pics%20and%20Gifs/03e297805251b807d6f672dd09a4a0b5.gif
perfect
dangeroso
01-30-2011, 06:51 PM
Who has a freezer that big?
Why would you think that was something serious and determine that did not come from the nut mode John Mayer displays on occasion?
EricPeterson
01-30-2011, 07:38 PM
It was a joke. Man, that guy really gets this place going sometimes.
Keep it up Johnny.
shane88
01-30-2011, 09:55 PM
I heard SRV threw his picks off of a cliff before using them.
:aok ....... :drink
Flinto2002
01-30-2011, 10:18 PM
This is by far the most sad OP I've ever read
This.
Just pitiful
HoboMan
01-31-2011, 05:41 AM
I hear that Whirlpool is introducing the John Mayer relic'd standing freezer.
Bo Faulkner
01-31-2011, 04:07 PM
Exactly, just like the set of Texas Specials in his SRV strat were wound incorrectly resulting in a mid scooped tone. Don't believe it. But, I dig Mayer and his tones.
I have a buddy that has a roadhouse strat with TS pups. It is a very soft scooped sounding piece. The pups seem to be lower output than any other strat Ive a/b with it. After comparing his strat to a few others I came to the conclusion that the Texas Specials in his were wired incorrectly. They sounded opposite of what they were advertised to sound like
starjag
02-08-2013, 12:47 PM
Jealous???
ChevellePRS
02-08-2013, 12:49 PM
Old???
stevieboy
02-08-2013, 12:56 PM
If I want to relic a guitar, I'll do it the natural way.
I'll leave it outside overnight in the winter. Freezer? Ha, poser!
Derek Q
02-08-2013, 01:06 PM
Someone sure took this thread out of the freezer. ;)
quadrophenia
02-08-2013, 01:17 PM
This OP was not quite as funny the second time around as it was the first time.
But still funny.
dazco
02-08-2013, 01:29 PM
You have the story all wrong....he said he gave his guitar to a geezer.
straycat113
02-08-2013, 01:48 PM
I have never been a big Mayer fan, especially as far as his lead work goes but there is no denying the guy is talented and has a knack for writing fluffy pop tunes as well as being a killer rhythm player. I do find that he has a wicked sense of humor and also can take a joke. I did not bother watching the video on his magical lol The Black One guitar as I was hanging heavily on the Fender FMIC forum when it was announced that only 88 would be issued world wide and had to watch for close to two years guys begging for one stopping short of offering up their first born for a relic copy of a relic copy that sold for about 10K. Out of all these post only two guys were on the money why some guys stick a guitar body in the freezer which is nothing new. It is done so the guitar goes from extreme cold to heat when taken out which most of the time will cause the Nitro finish to check. Mayer has Rene Martinez as his tech and if something did not feel or sound right the guitar would just be given to him in a split second.I think this was all about Mayer having fun though if he did not state it was a joke that would be kind of a f@cked up thing to do as thousands of kids hang on the guys every word- some adults too lol.
zosozep7
02-08-2013, 01:49 PM
Hendrix lit his guitar on fire!
hudpucker
02-08-2013, 02:23 PM
I seared my Fender to lock in the juicy tone.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/guitarzan_1/Gear/IMG_7072.jpg
Good thing you don't have a skunk stripe on that one...
TOAN leaks out from there, you know...
fjblair
02-08-2013, 05:16 PM
Great idea!
kevod23
02-08-2013, 06:05 PM
I contemplated explaining in detail how what is said in the video differs from the OPs interpretation, but then decided that was a silly idea. It was said in context of him wanting the guitar to sound one way and trying anything to achieve that. He's a funny guy who loves to use lots of metaphor and hyperbole in his stories. It was nothing more than that.
tele118
02-08-2013, 06:24 PM
If you eat your guitars, you will gain their musical knowledge.
Irving Pye
02-08-2013, 06:27 PM
That's just plain nuts....just like Mayer(but a great guitarist}
Apparently John skipped out on physics class?
You sorta need to freeze something at BELOW -238 F before change happens at the molecular level.
Sean Meredith-Jones
www.seanmeredithjones.com
Doug's Tubes
02-08-2013, 06:41 PM
Saw a Youtube video of him stating that he placed his guitar in a freezer overnight hoping that it would change it somehow at a molecular level.
Turns out it was just a bad ground someplace.
Granted if the cold damaged his guitar he could have easily gotten another one as he is rich bitch.
So... should I also try to place one of my guitars in the freezer overnight.
What are the negatives? I guess if it survives that would mean the wood is especially good and that it should not give me any trouble in the future.
But is this something to be done?
Imaging how many of us boiled our strings when Eddie said he did that.
I figured if Mayer say place it in the freezer - why not try it?
Right?
Oh no, JM read some crap on cryogenics......and now this.
phoenix 7
02-08-2013, 07:46 PM
I can't imagine how a person with his guitar experience would hear the effects of bad wiring and make the leap to putting it in a freezer. I wonder if they asked him for an endorsement clip and he said that to be a smart ass. I've seen people do this before, and sure enough, marketing still uses it.
I just watched the clip -- you can find it on YouTube. I've seen Mayer BS -- but this is a serious, long interview where he tells the whole story of "the black one" and he seems 100% straightforward.
BobbyJoe
02-08-2013, 07:58 PM
Anyone here with brains notice some similarity with EVH, Gibbons and others? My suspicions are that he's sick of answering the same tonal questions by idiots that don't listen. If I was a rock star, had done a dozen interviews, showed my pedals, my guitar, my gear, over and over and over and someone asked me, 'so how do you get your tone'.
Afer a while I'd probably be like....'Yeah I rub stripper glitter on the wood and microwave it every night.'
DrumBob
02-08-2013, 10:03 PM
Some drummers bury their cymbals in the backyard for up to six months to age them in dirt. Does it work? Some seem to think it mellows the sound a bit. Stranger things have happened.
vortexxxx
02-08-2013, 10:45 PM
I wonder if boiling the guitar would make it last longer, like when EVH used to boil his strings. :)
vortexxxx
02-08-2013, 10:48 PM
Questions that annoy famous musicians after constantly getting the same question 'where do you get your tone'. Writers hate when people ask them: 'how do you get your ideas.'
TeleFromHelly
02-09-2013, 12:21 AM
I'm reading a book about the boxer Jack Dempsey. It mentions one boxer played the ukulele and he stored it in the freezer whenever not playing to preserve the wood. This was in the early 20's, nothing new under the sun
mcdes
02-09-2013, 04:12 AM
.......Is this the chuckle thread??.......
Hwoltage
02-09-2013, 04:22 AM
John Mayer is a chuckle thread. Though he does know how to get it.
ripley156
02-09-2013, 04:24 AM
Boil your guitar and stick your strings in the freezer..
This, lol!
argylespots
02-09-2013, 05:42 AM
No I don't think John Mayer would lie about guitars.
Banging chicks - he would but not guitars.
i wonder if he freezes his wimmens before he bangs them. i mean really, wouldnt that be more important than how a stupid guitar sounds?
InkStained
02-09-2013, 06:22 AM
What a wise, wise thread I have found.
When I registered for the TGP lo these many, er, days ago, I hoped to stumble on this kind of wisdom. And now I have.
My guitar-playing existence is now complete.
Tom
P.S. How long should I leave my Strat in the freezer? Forever? Or less than forever?
InkStained
02-09-2013, 06:41 AM
You could play a lot of Albert Mr Frozen Alive Collins or SRV's Cold Shot; Foreigner's Cold as Ice, etc ad infinitum.
This.
TMKXL
02-09-2013, 06:47 AM
I have never been a big Mayer fan, especially as far as his lead work goes but there is no denying the guy is talented and has a knack for writing fluffy pop tunes as well as being a killer rhythm player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQkO3SGB3So
I think he's a brilliant lead guitarist as well!
And indeed does he have a great sense of humor, have you ever seen his 'John Mayer has a TV-Show' show?
Great stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXUi93hbPq8
I like him as an artist, but he talks too much for my liking. He should play and sing more and talk less.
imgarrett
02-09-2013, 10:42 AM
He's trolling you all.
candid_x
02-09-2013, 01:23 PM
I seared my Fender to lock in the juicy tone.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/guitarzan_1/Gear/IMG_7072.jpg
That's cool.
Had an antique desk with an old iron branded on top. I mean, if you're going to be brand conscious, why not make yer own? People always talking about thinning out the herd, so you could follow a given traded guitar around for years, each TGP owner giving it another brand.
-=Scorch=-
02-09-2013, 01:24 PM
how much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
Stu Cats
02-09-2013, 01:35 PM
how much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
Maybe back in '82, maybe. But today? I dunno.
This time of year around here just leave it in your car... ive done this many times.... it does not change the tone...:huh:cool::horse:mob
davetone
02-09-2013, 03:05 PM
Talk about ice-pick tone
That comment made my day! :rotflmao
how much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
I could have made state.
Baemer
02-16-2013, 05:31 PM
You guys are funny.
mrface2112
02-17-2013, 08:09 AM
This time of year around here just leave it in your car... ive done this many times.... it does not change the tone.. It does! It makes me sharp.....then flat.....then sharp.....then flat.....
VintageKnob
02-17-2013, 08:14 AM
I tried it with my dog and it did stop him from crapping in the house, might do good to a guitar as well. Worth trying!
- D
DustyRhodesJr
02-17-2013, 11:30 AM
Michael Jackson froze his face in a chamber, look how good he looked
when he died.
I would say freezing a guitar sounds great.
Bikedude
02-17-2013, 12:46 PM
I respect him as a guitar player, period, any thing out of his mouth, not so much.
Dev...in
02-17-2013, 07:34 PM
Ironically freezing something preserves it, doesn't age it. Heating something simulates age. Sort of... Faster molecular motion. Bombarding a strat body with a stream of protons, photons, UVB and gamma radiation would be a better experiment. Ideally I would like for my alder strat body to be drug through the ionosphere in the opposite direction of the earths rotation. Before its painted obviously.
Now who here owns an operational SR-71 blackbird?
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