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OldSchool
05-27-2005, 07:47 AM
What are the differences between a Baker B1 and a Baker junior?

Are they just cosmetic or are they sonic as well? Being that I never had the pleasure of seeing one up close the differences just look cosmetic ...........thankx

:cool:

mude
05-27-2005, 07:57 AM
The B1 is a carved top and the Jr. is a flat top. Not much difference sonically IMO (I have seen Gene say the same thing). That being said, it is hard to compare 2 guitars unless they are exactly the same in other respects (PUPs, frets, bridge, board, etc.). Even then, differences between particular pieces of wood may have more of a difference. Tough to tell.

I used to think that the Jrs were some of the best bargains around.

Evan.

edgarallanpoe
05-27-2005, 08:16 AM
Obviously, it depends on the guitar..but the main things are...

1. Carved top vs Flat top
2. Binding vs no binding
3. Block/Crowns vs dot inlays
4. AAAA vs AAA maple top

Gene did make some tricked out Jrs but most of them adhere to the above differences. Also...I have never seen a Jr with an ebony board, but have seen a bunch of B1s with them.

Edited to add that I agree with the above poster. The differences are mostly cosmetic. I have owned a few Jrs and they were uniformly excellent guitars, and every bit the players that my B1s are.

OldSchool
05-28-2005, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by edgarallanpoe
Obviously, it depends on the guitar..but the main things are...

1. Carved top vs Flat top
2. Binding vs no binding
3. Block/Crowns vs dot inlays
4. AAAA vs AAA maple top

Gene did make some tricked out Jrs but most of them adhere to the above differences. Also...I have never seen a Jr with an ebony board, but have seen a bunch of B1s with them.

Edited to add that I agree with the above poster. The differences are mostly cosmetic. I have owned a few Jrs and they were uniformly excellent guitars, and every bit the players that my B1s are.

Thanks both of you. I was looking for Bakers on Ebay when I saw this and was Horrified!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=7325924341&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


First off it seems pretty reasonable for a Baker.........but is Gene Baker in Bed with Ed!!? Say it isn't so? I actually wanted a Baker..........:(

Ian Anderson
05-28-2005, 01:34 AM
Thats not a real Baker.

Sapele body, scarfed headstock, and a glazed doughnut finish. I bet it costs him less than $200 to have those made in asia!

edgarallanpoe
05-28-2005, 06:17 AM
Yup...thats an import. I believe that these are made in Korea. I have played a few, and while they may be decent entry level guitars...they are in no way, shape, or form, on the level of an original Baker.

OldSchool
05-28-2005, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by edgarallanpoe
Yup...thats an import. I believe that these are made in Korea. I have played a few, and while they may be decent entry level guitars...they are in no way, shape, or form, on the level of an original Baker.


How did Gene Baker let Ed Roman use his name and reputation like that? :eek:

Axdoctor
05-28-2005, 11:34 AM
Let me clearify one thing, Gene is not in bed with Ed!!!! The BJ was our budjet model ala LP Junior. A lot of people said it was the best value guitar since it played and had the balls of a B1 but was about a third less in price. I preferd the ones with P-90s.

John Hurtt
05-28-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by OldSchool
How did Gene Baker let Ed Roman use his name and reputation like that? :eek:


Gene didn't let ER use his name, Ed bought it during the liquidation auction when Baker went bandrupt. Really lame of ER, to be honest.

edgarallanpoe
05-28-2005, 11:54 AM
How did Gene Baker let Ed Roman use his name and reputation like that?

Unfortunately Baker guitars went out of business and Ed Roman purchased the Baker name in the ensuing auction.

Gene still makes guitars under the Fine Tuned Instruments moniker...

http://www.finetunedinstruments.com/

OldSchool
05-29-2005, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by edgarallanpoe
Unfortunately Baker guitars went out of business and Ed Roman purchased the Baker name in the ensuing auction.

Gene still makes guitars under the Fine Tuned Instruments moniker...

http://www.finetunedinstruments.com/


Thanks alot for that link! It must really suck to see someone Like Ed do that to something your worked so hard to accomplish. :mad: P.O.S.

pokey
05-29-2005, 05:42 PM
"No orders are being accepted until new models have been developed"

I thought he was up and running already.