Are You A Beatle or a Stone?

[Funky54]

Are you a Beatle or a Stone?

It’s really that simple. Most of us like some of both, but when it comes right down to having to pick one, there is a clear choice. I have lived in three very different locations in my life. One was dominated by the Stone crowd, One the Beatle, and one just plain confused.

If it doesn’t relate to you… well your wrong. Beatle and Stone are just fun ways of stereotyping the two main types in us musicians.

I am totally alone where I am now. I am totally surrounded “by Stones” They don’t want or like a song driven band. They don’t like stacked harmonies or pop in any way. No hooks. They are blues based and don’t like where my playing is centered.

Here are two lists of bands. You may like some from each (I do) but one list is dominant with you. One your likes gravitate to. Your ability musically is drawn to one of these lists.

List One “The Beatle”
Led Zepplin
Thin Lizzy
ELO
Boston
Foo Fighters
Weezer
Queen
Mick Ronson
Urge Overkill
Space Hog
Beach Boys
Stray Cats
Bowie
Glen Miller
Duke Ellington

List Two ”The Stone”
Cream
The Doors
CCR
Rush
Pink Floyd
Molly Hatchet
Lynard Skinnard
Hendrix
SRV
Allmon Brothers
Black Keys
Neil Young
Howlin Wolf
Son House
BB king

So what are you? You love serving the song? Love working out arrangements and vocal harmonies? Or is that restrictive and taking your freedom? Most of the first list you'd have to learn that bands songs and arrangements. You'd have to have structure. The second list is jam bands in many ways. Sure, both band types did jam songs. Both did structured songs with lots of chord changes, but were stereotyping for fun here.

[rdamato]

The Stone. Just look at who's on the list. GOOD THREAD!! It also could have been titled: AC-30 VS Bassman/JTM-45

[Tigerfang]

Is it odd that I greatly prefer the Beatles, yet by far prefer the Stones list?

[rollyfoster]

my brain likes the beatles, my gut likes the stones. i usually go with my gut.

looking at that list, however, i think zeppelin may be the one band who falls in between.

[Brian D]

Elvis.

[Tenebrous]

Is it odd that I greatly prefer the Beatles, yet by far prefer the Stones list?

*Nod*

[Chicago Slim]

Elvis.

+1, Elvis!

If you remember Pulp Fiction, it was Beatle people or Elvis People.

I used to be a Stone, but I reformed.

[coreybox]

Much prefer the beatles over the stones (but I like both!).

I definitely don't like all the bands on the beatles list. Especially boston, which is actually one of my least favorite groups.

[TwoTubMan]

The Animals.

[foureyes]

I find myself (looking at the list of bands) being in both camps.:huh

[chucke99]

I'm a Beatle, but I disagree with your list of other bands that go along with preferring either the Stones or Beatles. You can't make any of those assumptions. The Beach Boys? Are you kidding? Boston? Uggh.

I actually really hate it when people try to categorize the Beatles vs. the Stones. It always seems to break up this way: Beatles are more "pop" while the Stones are more "rock" or "cool". These lists are usually created by guys who like the Stones better and thus, put all the cool bands on their side of the fence.

So I'm a Beatle. Here are my other favorite bands:

Rush
Judas Priest
(Ulrich Roth-based) Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Neil Young
Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin
Nirvana
Soundgarden
Alice in Chains
Tool
Bob Dylan
Hot Tuna

and many more...

[Funky54]

To each of us the list would be some different. Some bands truly fall between for me and wouldnt for you. Stones have some well arranged songs that hav elots of chord progressions and stacked harmonies that I like, but thats not "the Stones" Beatles had some down to earth blues songs with rawness and simple arrangements...but thats no the Beatles.

I think you know what I'm getting at.

As to Boston... Lots of chord progressions and lots of structure and harmonies. Deffenatly serving the song and not the ability. Have to be on the Beatle side

[small axe]

ur list does not compute

[Funky54]

I'm a Beatle, but I disagree with your list of other bands that go along with preferring either the Stones or Beatles. You can't make any of those assumptions. The Beach Boys? Are you kidding? Boston? Uggh.

I actually really hate it when people try to categorize the Beatles vs. the Stones. It always seems to break up this way: Beatles are more "pop" while the Stones are more "rock" or "cool". These lists are usually created by guys who like the Stones better and thus, put all the cool bands on their side of the fence.

So I'm a Beatle. Here are my other favorite bands:

Rush
Judas Priest
(Ulrich Roth-based) Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Neil Young
Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin
Nirvana
Soundgarden
Alice in Chains
Tool
Bob Dylan
Hot Tuna

and many more...
I'm a Beatle.. but Neil Young? on the Beatles side??? Your list is lots of good music, but I say some from each camp, just like my list of good music would be. But as to lots of difficult arrangements with stacked harmonies and cool Jazz undertones... Many on your list a re raw and good rockers, just not Beatlish to me.

[crzyfngers]

like... a stoned beatle man.

[The Golden Boy]

Are you a Beatle or a Stone?

It’s really that simple. Most of us like some of both, but when it comes right down to having to pick one, there is a clear choice. I have lived in three very different locations in my life. One was dominated by the Stone crowd, One the Beatle, and one just plain confused.

If it doesn’t relate to you… well your wrong. Beatle and Stone are just fun ways of stereotyping the two main types in us musicians.

I am totally alone where I am now. I am totally surrounded “by Stones” They don’t want or like a song driven band. They don’t like stacked harmonies or pop in any way. No hooks. They are blues based and don’t like where my playing is centered.

Here are two lists of bands. You may like some from each (I do) but one list is dominant with you. One your likes gravitate to. Your ability musically is drawn to one of these lists.

List One “The Beatle”
Led Zepplin
Thin Lizzy
ELO
Boston
Foo Fighters
Weezer
Queen
Mick Ronson
Urge Overkill
Space Hog
Beach Boys
Stray Cats
Bowie
Glen Miller
Duke Ellington

List Two ”The Stone”
Cream
The Doors
CCR
Rush
Pink Floyd
Molly Hatchet
Lynard Skinnard
Hendrix
SRV
Allmon Brothers
Black Keys
Neil Young
Howlin Wolf
Son House
BB king

So what are you? You love serving the song? Love working out arrangements and vocal harmonies? Or is that restrictive and taking your freedom?

So the "Beatle" list is guys that have released socially relevant records in the past 40 years?

[Funky54]

So the "Beatle" list is guys that have released socially relevant records in the past 40 years?
Man your getting way to deep. This is a fun little thread about stereo types and music we all love and the approaches that we take or gravitate to even when we dont want to. Its not about radio or relavent today or what the American Idol fans listen to.

Do you like stacked harmonies and song arragnements you have to learn or are you about the jam?

[Funky54]

I find myself (looking at the list of bands) being in both camps.:huh
In my little humble opinion that means you like great music and are very balanced..put a star on the fridge.

[fenderball]

It’s really that simple. Most of us like some of both, but when it comes right down to having to pick one, there is a clear choice. I have lived in three very different locations in my life. One was dominated by the Stone crowd, One the Beatle, and one just plain confused.


Am thinkin I must live in the confused....

as for the music, i gravitate in taste to your stones list

[CRBMoA]

Uhh. Where is The Who?

[harpinon]

Beatle.
Never liked stones. Rolling, gall or kidney.

[Funky54]

It’s really that simple. Most of us like some of both, but when it comes right down to having to pick one, there is a clear choice. I have lived in three very different locations in my life. One was dominated by the Stone crowd, One the Beatle, and one just plain confused.


Am thinkin I must live in the confused....

as for the music, i gravitate in taste to your stones list
I'm in the land of confused here in Orlando just north of you. Here 20 year old white college kids in bowling hats my grandfather wore are lecturing me about how playing the Strokes is a sell out, rip off and surpressing the black mans true accomplishements. They only play Son House cause they watched Jack White and took him a bit to serious. They are confused because they tell you that the Cars are actually blues...? then when you can find rock.. its some dude screaming into a megaphone about Satan and his band name is one that if I repeated, I'd get banned from the site.

Confused. Thats not a Beatle or a Stone thats confused...

[rob2001]

Definitely, without a doubt......










































BOTH!!

[chucke99]

I'm a Beatle.. but Neil Young? on the Beatles side??? Your list is lots of good music, but I say some from each camp, just like my list of good music would be. But as to lots of difficult arrangements with stacked harmonies and cool Jazz undertones... Many on your list a re raw and good rockers, just not Beatlish to me.

That's my point. You can't characterize the Beatles as "difficult arrangements with stacked harmonies..." and then tell me I should like other bands like that. It just doesn't work that way. None of us is that predictable.

Your other quote:

"Do you like stacked harmonies and song arragnements you have to learn or are you about the jam?"

also does not make sense. I'm a Beatle, but I'm all about the Jam. That's what I find insulting about the Beatle/Stones characterization you're making. It's the classic "The Stones are cooler than the Beatles" line (and the Sex Pistols were cooler than both of them) blah blah blah.

[fenderball]

whoa!

TOUGH neighborhood....

good luck to you there....


I'm in the land of confused here in Orlando just north of you. Here 20 year old white college kids in bowling hats my grandfather wore are lecturing me about how playing the Strokes is a sell out, rip off and surpressing the black mans true accomplishements. They only play Son House cause they watched Jack White and took him a bit to serious. They are confused because they tell you that the Cars are actually blues...? then when you can find rock.. its some dude screaming into a megaphone about Satan and his band name is one that if I repeated, I'd get banned from the site.

Confused. Thats not a Beatle or a Stone thats confused...

[Gigbag]

ur list does not compute

This. I like both bands, but I suupose the Beatles have many more songs I like than the Stones. I don't know how you determined the lists associated with each band, but I am into all but 3 in the Beatles list, and all but 2 of the Stones list. Not that I dislike any of them.

Silly game. It's all music. I like lots of types of music from many musicians.

[tapeworm]

according to the two lists, A Stone...although I am not a fan of either the beatles or the stones.

[DWB1960]

http://phys-merger.physik.unibas.ch/%7Easte/zeppelin2.jpg

[frickengruvin]

I love both, at different times, and they both "serve" me....
I think to say you are served better by one or the other is a mis-nomer, because most of us go through periods when we prefer the "jam" groups/individuals to the "song serving" groups/individuals...and vice versa...
YMMV

[Funky54]

This. I like both bands, but I suupose the Beatles have many more songs I like than the Stones. I don't know how you determined the lists associated with each band, but I am into all but 3 in the Beatles list, and all but 2 of the Stones list. Not that I dislike any of them.

Silly game. It's all music. I like lots of types of music from many musicians.
Again your a well balanced, versitle guy. I like at least one if not more songs from every band I listed in both lists. But for the most part, over the last 15 years, guys I play with gravitate to one side or the other, its fun to think about it that way really. In cover bands, I try to do something for everyone, but usually one or the other surfaces withthe group your with.

Your band starts to jam more than practice..Usually a lead guitar or drummer that wants to just jam..Stones guy. You have the anal retentive guy who wants to really learn the song and talk about the arrangement, work out all the harmonies...Beatle... then there is usually some other guy who just is happy to do either. Its fun, start asking and you'll see. I'm the Beatle.. trying to be more Stonish...and loosing.

[Glass Onion]

Beatles first then Stones but a devotee of both if you told memo had to choose one or the other to listen to Beatles

[Zounds Perspex]

I'm a Dylan.

[Funky54]

I'm a Dylan.
Ahhhhhh.....Yes.... but unplugged or electric

[Zounds Perspex]

Ahhhhhh.....Yes.... but unplugged or electric?

Yes.

[Jet Age Eric]

I assumed they're getting their own thread, as they're better than both the Beatles and the Stones. :p -E

Uhh. Where is The Who?

[Thundrstruckk]

Stone.

[evets618]

I don't have to choose, and you can't make me.
Moron.

[CRBMoA]

I assumed they're getting their own thread, as they're better than both the Beatles and the Stones. :p -E

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/Yes.jpg

[shinebox]

I guess I'm both because I like every single choice on both lists

[84superchamp]

i'm still trying to make a connection between Pink Floyd and everyone else on the Stones list. it does not compute and that's because i'm a stone.

[BryanMatthews]

Beatle +1000


HATE :barfThe Stones

[clicktone]

Stone all day!

[SteveO]

I don't have to choose, and you can't make me.
Moron.

Nice.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

I am Teh Stone!! ... easy ... List is flawed though, Zeppelin easily belongs in the Stone list!! :mad: ... and ELO makes me want to puke.


...but I liked the Beatles wayyyyYyy more than the Stones :red



ok, here is my The Stones list: :idea:



Beatles
Van Halen
Zeppelin
Skynyrd
Deep Purple
Hendrix
STP
Pearl Jam
Neil Young
Heart
Early Aerosmith
Taylor era Stones
Rainbow
The Who

:beer:

[Funky54]

I don't have to choose, and you can't make me.
Moron.
My thread!

[Funky54]

I am Teh Stone!! ... easy ... List is flawed though, Zeppelin easily belongs in the Stone list!! :mad: ... and ELO makes me want to puke.


...but I liked the Beatles wayyyyYyy more than the Stones :red



ok, here is my The Stones list: :idea:



Beatles
Van Halen
Zeppelin
Skynyrd
Deep Purple
Hendrix
STP
Pearl Jam
Neil Young
Heart
Early Aerosmith
Taylor era Stones
Rainbow
The Who

:beer:
ELO Rocks! So do most of these.....except Neil Young and Skynyrd.... heck ok they rock too. Ok, not Neil Young.

[Peeb]

Beatles/Stones?

A: all of the above.

[Mark Robinson]

Unfortunately, my bank account says....neither..

[Brooks]

Led Zepplin
Lynard Skinnard
Allmon Brothers


hard to take this thread seriously...

[Funky54]

hard to take this thread seriously...
My ears listen they dont spell. You can take it up with my second grade teacher. Since I'm not in the second grade I wont worry about your little superior attitude. Spell check and Vista dont work together on forums. I type fast and really dont care about impressing english teachers. I'm busy talking music and cool stuff.

[Zero G]

Neither. I'm a Monkee. :banana

[Trebor Renkluaf]

Well if you asked me which band I preferred it would be the Beatles no contest. But looking at your list (where did you come up with that?) I'm a Stone.

[DrumBob]

Is there some kind of scientific basis for this so-called "study?"

Or, is it just one more silly thing to waste our time?

Oh, and I like The Beatles and the Stones, so I guess I'm a "Bone." Or how about a "Steatle"?

[Funky54]

Some bands focus on the song, its structured, usually has lots of chord changes, stacked harmonies... Its a tune you carry in your head. Everybody has to learn it.

Other bands songs are just loose frame work to expand on and jam with. they are usually not very complicated from a rythm guitar perspective.

The bands under Beatles are for the most part bands that require some structure to the song. You have to learn where it is going. Music that is really about the song. Tunesmiths. Lots of harmonies

The bands under Stones are more raw blues driven and usually more open to a jam. They are for the most part less structured.(This is where you roll your eyes and ask Zepplin in Beatles) Yeah, for me. You dont have to put them there if you dont want to. You get past there blues copies and they did some really cool chord changes and arrangements. For me they go with the Beatles.

Both lists are good. I'm not saying anything negative about either..well except Neil Young.. anyway, I like it all.

The thread is probably a waist of time, just enjoying the eavning with some newcastle. Not trying to cause a war or put people off, its just in harmless fun.

[DrumBob]

Some bands focus on the song, its structured, usually has lots of chord changes, stacked harmonies... Its a tune you carry in your head. Everybody has to learn it.

Other bands songs are just loose frame work to expand on and jam with. they are usually not very complicated from a rythm guitar perspective.

The bands under Beatles are for the most part bands that require some structure to the song. You have to learn where it is going. Music that is really about the song. Tunesmiths. Lots of harmonies

The bands under Stones are more raw blues driven and usually more open to a jam. They are for the most part less structured.(This is where you roll your eyes and ask Zepplin in Beatles) Yeah, for me. You dont have to put them there if you dont want to. You get past there blues copies and they did some really cool chord changes and arrangements. For me they go with the Beatles.

Both lists are good. I'm not saying anything negative about either..well except Neil Young.. anyway, I like it all.

The thread is probably a waist of time, just enjoying the eavning with some newcastle. Not trying to cause a war or put people off, its just in harmless fun.

No offense intended, my friend.

[Jarvig]

Beatles way more than Stones. But I like the the Stones list way more than the Beatles list.

[gixxerrock]

The Beatles were brilliant songwriters and hugely influential pop rock band and I will give them all the respect they deserve. The Stones are a dirty, vibey loose rock and roll band. My personal preference is way more in line with the Stones. Growing up, I would have picked Zep over any of them.

[Brooks]

Since I'm not in the second grade I wont worry about your little superior attitude. I'm busy talking music and cool stuff.

easy, cheesy. i can ignore "then/than" or "your/you're" mistakes all day, but it bugs me when people can't spell ZEPPELIN or SKYNYRD in a classic rock thread.

[DWB1960]

but it bugs me when people can't spell ZEPPELIN or SKYNYRD in a classic rock thread.

Me too. Yet they always spell Teh Beetles correctly.....