VigierSL-Time machine Boost-Flexi with 12At7 clip...

[Ed DeGenaro]

http://www.eddegenaro.com/audio/peacemarined.mp3

[Red Ant]

Awsome playing! Restrained and frenetic in turns, in all the right places :) GREAT tone as well! :dude :dude :dude

[Rock Fella]

had it not been for 23secs-33secs, ......59 secs-1min 5secs, i strongly feel these 16 secs contained totally unneccessary and so totally opposite to what i felt that track was all about playing , to me it was like somebody cut and pasted a shredder and dropped it into the song.

apart from those 16 secs, I found your tune to be of the usual ED standard and utterly enjoyable Ed. :dude


jimmy

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
had it not been for 23secs-33secs, ......59 secs-1min 5secs, i strongly feel these 16 secs contained totally unneccessary and so totally opposite to what i felt that track was all about playing , to me it was like somebody cut and pasted a shredder and dropped it into the song.

apart from those 16 secs, I found your tune to be of the usual ED standard and utterly enjoyable Ed. :dude


jimmy
Well I thought it needed those 16 seconds. BTW, not a tune, just one of Marins awesome backings.
But i thought the tone merited it being heard.

[Rock Fella]

Ed buddy

Between you and me dude........I think you outplay anybody on this site man, there aint nobody on TGP that I have heard in my time hear who in my opinion comes remotely close to you at all man ..................and I mean this.

I feel when I listen to your clippage , Ed we know how fast you can play and how you like to minor 9th and all that , but I just want to hear you play from within and make me sit up and listen. Far too many "clever" players out there , I just wanna hear music.

I know you know what I mean buddy, keep posting your clips, I find the musical element to be inspirational.

Jimmy

[Unburst]

Awesome playing Ed, I especially loved the fast lick right at the end and the slidey thing before that.
The Vigier is fretless, no?
Amazing you can play like that on a fretless.

Killer tone too, reminded me of 'Road Games' era Holdsworth but with more teeth.

I am seriously considering a Flexi as my next amp purchase.

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Unburst
Awesome playing Ed, I especially loved the fast lick right at the end and the slidey thing before that.
The Vigier is fretless, no?
Amazing you can play like that on a fretless.

Killer tone too, reminded me of 'Road Games' era Holdsworth but with more teeth.

I am seriously considering a Flexi as my next amp purchase.
nope, that's one of my fretted Vigiers...the Shawn lane model. Compleetely flat fretboard...no radius whatsoever.

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
Ed buddy

Between you and me dude........I think you outplay anybody on this site man, there aint nobody on TGP that I have heard in my time hear who in my opinion comes remotely close to you at all man ..................and I mean this.

I feel when I listen to your clippage , Ed we know how fast you can play and how you like to minor 9th and all that , but I just want to hear you play from within and make me sit up and listen. Far too many "clever" players out there , I just wanna hear music.

I know you know what I mean buddy, keep posting your clips, I find the musical element to be inspirational.

Jimmy
thanks...but look at it this way. I gotta keep interesting for me to not get bored. that IS the beauty of being an amateur, I can do what i please.

[Unburst]

Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro
nope, that's one of my fretted Vigiers.

Still very impressive, especially the fast slidey stuff.

[Rock Fella]

Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro
thanks...but look at it this way. I gotta keep interesting for me to not get bored. that IS the beauty of being an amateur, I can do what i please.

you know what i REALLY want to hear you do Ed ?


you knock out something with the magnitude of gilmours solo on another brick in the wall , and then i will truly blown away , all that fast and clever playing goes in one of my ears and whizzes out the other , another brick in the wall has a solo i feel is just beyond belief in every way, Id love to hear you do something that makes you draw breath like that solo does Ed.

[Rock Fella]

edit...............a post vanished :D

[matte]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
you know what i REALLY want to hear you do Ed ?


you knock out something with the magnitude of gilmours solo on another brick in the wall , and then i will truly blown away , all that fast and clever playing goes in one of my ears and whizzes out the other , another brick in the wall has a solo i feel is just beyond belief in every way, Id love to hear you do something that makes you draw breath like that solo does Ed.

Originally posted by Rock Fella
listened to that last clip ya did bud, with the odd time signatures and everything .

undoubtedly you are a great technician matte , all that backwards muso stuff, whammying and eventide tonality do absolutely nothing for me whatsoever , notes drenched in delay dont interest me either. it kinda harks back to my utter detesting of everything satriani stands for and i kinda hear it in some of the sonic landscapes you create.

what im dead keen to hear matte is some stuff of yours:-

no whammying
no eventide
delay used sparingly if at all
no backwards music


AND PLAYED FROM THE HEART AND SOUL

raw , passionate , vibrato used beautifully and notes chosen because they simply cant be left out

you got any of this kinda stuff matte ? you are as i say, a monster technician, but id love to hear you play from the heart . i hope you have something you can post for me to enjoy dude.

[Rock Fella]

Originally posted by Matte


and your point ?

(yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwn)

you are on my block list but i just had to see what you are trying to stir here matte.

[matte]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
I think
I feel
we know
I just want to hear
make me sit up and listen
I just wanna hear
I know you know what I mean
Jimmy

[Rock Fella]

Originally posted by Matte


last 8 weeks or so have been very very enjoyably trouble maker free and a real pleasure to use TGP......funny enough, you were not here Matte.

[Rock Fella]

Matte

going to stick by your inclusion on my block list.

nothing but an egotistical troublemaker.

bye

[matte]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
edit...............a post vanished :D http://www.lacrossecountylibrary.com/images/monkey_on_computer.gif

[Myron Stratis]

Sounds great Ed. I have to try a 12at7 in my v2...

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by splatt
nice fookin' playin' and t-t-t-one, eduardo!
REAL nice, ya big bitch!


interesting, since i've looked at it exactly the same way, for the past 30+ yrs.....
dt / spltrcl

ps:
i know, i know:
i'm remiss (and, generally, suck) at sending promised things by mail;
pls feel free to hate me, sooner or later.

I won't hate you lover strudel!!!!!!!!

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by splatt
(but, you COULD, you galloping rocker, since my being remiss is so DEEPLY over-extended..... gawd, my life gets overfilled w/stuff, sometimes.....)
anyways:
you are really sounding remarkable, ed --- keep it up, and please make that recording, someday..... before the motivation accidentally wanes.
dt / spltrcl
No worries on the motivation part...but the paying the band and finding time is an issue. Sheeeeeeeeet, i just got done with my stupid remodel and am still kneedeep in house buying mode. :(
woe is me :)

And always thank yee or the kind words.
As fo the splatteronious works...if it happens it happens, if not I'll still luv ya like a whammy jerking brother.

[Rock Fella]

Originally posted by splatt
egotistical?
some requirements are nearly inherent, for great players.

troublemaker?
some trouble should be made --- it seems to be another personality requirement for electric guitarists.

how, exactly, do you view your own music-critic-approach to ed's playing, being presented as if you know & can already also achieve what's musically "up"?

o, ye, who seem partially responsible for the profundity of threading that has proven so key to the harmonycentralisation of TGP:
verily, i say:
firstly, go ye forth and allow thine own playing to be so regularly subjected to misanthropic, myopic, microscopic & mostly meaningless dissections;
love thy neighbor as thyself;
if a member so doth become cheeky with thee on thine musical ass, turneth so thine other cheek.
let bygones be bygones, come what may:
let not the fruit rotteth on the vine.

dt / spltrcl

http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~bhardwaj/dont%20know%20dont%20care.jpg

that took considerably less effort in making my point than your scraping thru a dictionary trying to make yours........bye

another to add to blocklist

[Rock Fella]

yup......thats your contributions blanked so i dont have endure em, bye

[matte]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~bhardwaj/dont%20know%20dont%20care.jpg

that took considerably less effort in making my point than your scraping thru a dictionary trying to make yours........bye

another to add to blocklist The grownups are trying to have a conversation here. Don't you have some homework to finish, Jimmy?

[Ed DeGenaro]

Can you guys take this pissing contest out of my self serving wank thread please? :)

[matte]

Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro
Can you guys take this pissing contest out of my self serving wank thread please? :) Pissing? I better buy a new keyboard. :(

[Rock Fella]

matte , you get so much pleasure in antagonising others, you must lead a very solitary and lonely life. guys like you used to get beat to pulp in the school i went to in the 80s dude, i really should empathise with you, but you dont deserve sentiment.

despised on the LPF.......you certainly were matte , ask greg wilson, he just LOVED YOU.......not !!

and you bring your psychological vitriol to new pastures such as TGP. wander from place to place without a friend.......very sad.

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
matte , you get so much pleasure in antagonising others, you must lead a very solitary and lonely life. guys like you used to get beat to pulp in the school i went to in the 80s dude, i really should empathise with you, but you dont deserve sentiment.

despised on the LPF.......you certainly were matte , ask greg wilson, he just LOVED YOU.......not !!

and you bring your psychological vitriol to new pastures such as TGP. wander from place to place without a friend.......very sad.
Damn...i actually think of myself as a buddy of his...what does that make me?!?!?! :)

[Rock Fella]

i admire your sacrifice Ed

jimmy

[Rock Fella]

Ed

mattes harrassment of me has nuthin to do with you and I , I consider you a rock solid bloke .............handshake to you.

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
Ed

mattes harrassment of me has nuthin to do with you and I , I consider you a rock solid bloke .............handshake to you.
Still I'd say the two of you ought make up and let bygones be bbbbbbygonee...
Live is too short for this.

[Rock Fella]

id make up with a decent human being in a heartbeat Ed, this however rules matte out, not worth it at all bro, there is something wrong with that guy and i want no part of it.

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
id make up with a decent human being in a heartbeat Ed, this however rules matte out, not worth it at all bro, there is something wrong with that guy and i want no part of it.
Actually he's one of the smartest guys i know...but what do i know. You guys go take this to the lounge!

[Rock Fella]

Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro
Actually he's one of the smartest guys i know...but what do i know. You guys go take this to the lounge!

i dont question his intellect, a grown man behaving like a spoilt 4 yr old is curious to me , trawling thru quotes , sifting thru a dictionary trying to blind you with big words in replies, .......i just dont get it man , its not "normal" behaviour :confused:

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by Rock Fella
i dont question his intellect, a grown man behaving like a spoilt 4 yr old is curious to me , trawling thru quotes , sifting thru a dictionary trying to blind you with big words in replies, .......i just dont get it man , its not "normal" behaviour :confused:
Well by now you should now that I dig "abnormal" behaviour. :0

[Rock Fella]

Ed

I hope this thread really blossoms for you , your track fully deserves a listen, im butting out of this one.

Like id said in previous reply, we had a sterling spell at TGP whilst Matte wasnt here for whatever reason he wasnt here. He is only back and he is antagonising me once more, its kinda like obsessive compulsive disorder which is indeed a medical condition, the guy just cannot let go , nitpicks my every word in an attempt to undermine me .

I should not have to endure my every written word being torn apart by somebody whom i feel has a problem ,

Ed, may loads more hear your talent my friend.:D

jimmy

[JMintzer]

EVERYBODY! KNOCK IT OFF! THE FULL MOON WAS LAST WEEK!


Jamie

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by JMintzer
EVERYBODY! KNOCK IT OFF! THE FULL MOON WAS LAST WEEK!


Jamie
Hey! I'm just minding my own noodles here. The other kids aren't playing nice. Maybe i should ban me! :)

[MusicGearGuys]

Nice Ed!

Dam I hate you! :D

I think its all in your gear huh? LOL:D

Seriously, You keep on growing as a musician with every clip.

Im just a jelous man.

Gregory

Vigier/Diezel/THD

[Scott Peterson]

Cut it out folks. Ed's got a great clip here (dude, damn) but somehow it turns into a pissing match.... and Ed's not even in on it.

Odd that.

If you don't like each other than ignore each other. Because this stuff spilling over on a clips thread is well, :NUTS

[grego7]

Ed,

Wow that is a really great clip.

If you don't mind me asking a gear question - how did you mic your cabinet on this? What kind of mic, where, etc. I assume that you added the stereo delay with an onboard effects unit?
Sorry if this question doesn't fit with the tone of the rest of this thread...

Again, though, fantastic playing. Thanks for posting it.

- Greg

[ccteleman]

That is very cool Ed :AOK

Makes me stand up and :moon

[Jonathan]

Stellar playing.....thanks for putting this one up! :)

[Ed DeGenaro]

Originally posted by grego7
Ed,

Wow that is a really great clip.

If you don't mind me asking a gear question - how did you mic your cabinet on this? What kind of mic, where, etc. I assume that you added the stereo delay with an onboard effects unit?
Sorry if this question doesn't fit with the tone of the rest of this thread...

Again, though, fantastic playing. Thanks for posting it.

- Greg

Sennheiser E609S. Cab was a Demeter iso cab. Also ran a Hot Plate set to -16dB.
delay added as plug-in in the software.

[gulliver]

Awesome!!! I love the "sax-like" sounds you're squeezing out of that amp.

Check out this cat on the Carvin site, same ball park in sound:

Hear Tambokgt's clip (http://apps.carvin.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009542)

Can I ask what brand pre and power tubes you're using? Speakers? I'm getting the impression tubes and speakers make almost as much of a difference as the amp.

Thanks.

[rwe333]

Nice playing/tone/development on this clip, Ed!
Cudos...

[8nthatK]

Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro
http://www.eddegenaro.com/audio/peacemarined.mp3

wow. loved the playing and tone.