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Rexfordbridge
06-02-2011, 08:01 PM
I've got a ten year old strat and I need to switch out the pots and while I'm at it I'm going to do caps too. What value is recommended? I did notice that the kits come with .047.

http://store.rsguitarworks.net/COMPMODSTRAT.html
http://www.allparts.com/Wiring-Kit-for-Stratocasters-p/ep-4120-000.htm

lakehaus
06-02-2011, 08:04 PM
.022uF for bright bite, .047uF for warmer and a bit darker. Don't forget to use your V&T controls to dial in your tone.

Rexfordbridge
06-02-2011, 08:10 PM
Do you happen to know what the stock cap strength would be for an American Standard Strat from 2000?

lakehaus
06-02-2011, 08:13 PM
Probably a .022uF poly

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/tidalsurge/Fender%20Guitars/56%20CS%20Relic/IMG_2039.jpg

Caps are cheap and easy to change out. You should try a couple to see what works best for your style. I have a .1uF ceramic in one Strat, and a .05uF in another. I just like ceramic caps. They really start to affect tone with the control at around 7 and below. 10 is like totally out of the circuit.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/tidalsurge/Fender%20Guitars/62%20AVRI%20Black/IMG_3177.jpg

gmann
06-02-2011, 10:09 PM
I like .022 for Strats. Lots of the older ones came with .01. If your handy with a soldering iron they're easy to change out and you can experiment and see what you like best.

PCR
06-03-2011, 12:24 PM
Personally, I like 0.047uf for my Strats. I would have never thought that I would end up on that value until I soldered up some leads to the tone pot and tried several different caps.

I'm with Gmann. Try different caps (they're cheap).

Pearly Gator
06-04-2011, 07:28 AM
Install a pair of clip leads where the cap goes and let them hang out from under the pickguard. Use this to test a boat load of caps to find the one that sounds right to you. This is because different caps will yield different tones with different pickups. Too many variables otherwise.

tazzboy
06-04-2011, 07:28 PM
When I had stratocaster I used a .047

M55ikael
06-04-2011, 07:58 PM
It's worth noting that in theory caps won't have any effect on your tone when your tone pot is on 10.

SnidelyWhiplash
06-06-2011, 01:40 PM
When I had stratocaster I used a .047

I like this value for Fenders in general.

stvnscott
06-06-2011, 02:45 PM
It's worth noting that in theory caps won't have any effect on your tone when your tone pot is on 10.

Not true if you are using 250K pots. Hook up a meter and see for yourself.

wizard333
06-06-2011, 02:47 PM
.0047 for single pickups, .01 for paralleled pickups. So, an order of magnitude smaller than the .047.

I've never understood why the stock cap values in guitars were designed to make it sound like your amp was burried in the yard. Far too large IMO.

Mayo5
06-06-2011, 02:49 PM
Get a push-pull pot for your tone pot and use them both. See which one you like, and try out different values.

mannish
06-06-2011, 02:51 PM
I am going to switch the strat with Van Zandts to 047

They may be easy to change but a PIA to remove strings, pickguard..etc

I am never pleased with strat tone controls cause I would like more variance

slagg
06-07-2011, 04:30 AM
I settled on .033

pennylink
06-07-2011, 04:37 AM
I think it's guitar-dependant and comes down to personal choice. I really like .047uF in my partscaster.

stvnscott
06-07-2011, 07:30 AM
Forgot to mention that I like either .01 or .022 depending on the guitar and pickups. Anything bigger than that and it sounds like I am choking off the tone rather than adjusting it.

NoahL
06-07-2011, 09:58 AM
Right, the bottom line is try various values. But as long as you're gonna do that, here's a thought. They keys to the nice results I've gotten from RS Guitarworks parts are that their volume pots are always a little higher than the advertised impedance (the 500k Super Pot I put in my Hamer was actually 560k); and they often suggest a cap value one step lower than you'd expect -- they recommended a .015 for my Hamer with the JB/59 combo. I guess their strategy is "Let as much tone come through at 10 and 10 as possible and then let the good-quality pot and cap do their job over the whole taper." In other words, don't be afraid to open up your guitar.

So now, even when I don't want to spend RS dollars on a guitar, I dig around for a CTS volume pot that's at or above its stamped value, and I'll always try smaller and smaller caps until I don't like the results.

Does this sound like what you guys do?

kevinhifi
06-07-2011, 10:03 AM
.0047 for single pickups, .01 for paralleled pickups. So, an order of magnitude smaller than the .047.

I've never understood why the stock cap values in guitars were designed to make it sound like your amp was burried in the yard. Far too large IMO.

It really depends on the amp. I dial my amp to be way on the bright side and then boost it with even more high end. Then I roll my tone knob down to taste and get some great sparkly sounds. I find that I get nice dynamics this way and a really wide range of sounds via the tone and volume knobs.

I settled on .033

Me too, for both my Strat and my Tele.

americananalog
06-07-2011, 10:24 AM
I like .022 for Black Sabbath type rhythm.
.047uf is good for dark, fuzzed out lead playing.

scr@tchy
06-07-2011, 11:16 AM
Not true if you are using 250K pots. Hook up a meter and see for yourself.

seconded