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skydog
08-12-2011, 07:47 AM
I just read where it was Jimmy Page that achieved the banjo sound on "Mrs. Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter". He played it on a Gretsch Country Gentleman and stuffed toilet paper under the strings near the bridge (all banjo jokes aside please!). I wonder if Justin Bieber ever saw this!?

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tonejunky
08-12-2011, 07:50 AM
I think that he was a studio session-guitarist at the time, and more likely than not was on plenty of their recordings.

DWB1960
08-12-2011, 07:51 AM
Page was the favoured session guitarist of producer Shel Talmy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shel_Talmy). As a result, he secured session work on songs for The Who (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who) and The Kinks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kinks).[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-tripleJ-18) Page is credited with playing acoustic twelve string guitar on two tracks on The Kinks'debut album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kinks_%28album%29) "I'm a Lover Not a Fighter" and "I've Been Driving On Bald Mountain" [20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-19) and possibly on the b-side "I Gotta Move".[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-20) He played six-string rhythm guitar on the sessions for The Who's first single "I Can't Explain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Can%27t_Explain)"[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-DuNoyer-17) (although Pete Townshend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Townshend) was reluctant to allow Page's contribution on the final recording, Page also played lead guitar on the B-side "Bald Headed Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_Headed_Woman)").[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-21) Page's studio output in 1964 included Marianne Faithfull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Faithfull)'s "As Tears Go By (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Tears_Go_By_%28song%29)", The Nashville Teens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nashville_Teens)' "Tobacco Road (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Road_%28song%29)", The Rolling Stones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones)' "Heart of Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Stone_%28song%29)" (released on Metamorphosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphosis_%28Rolling_Stones_album%29)), Van Morrison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Morrison) & Them's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them_%28band%29) "Baby Please Don't Go (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Please_Don%27t_Go)" and "Here Comes the Night (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_Comes_the_Night_%28Bert_Berns_song%29)", Dave Berry's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Berry_%28musician%29) "The Crying Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crying_Game_%28song%29)" and "My Baby Left Me", Brenda Lee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Lee)'s "Is It True," and Petula Clark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petula_Clark)'s "Downtown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_%28Petula_Clark_song%29)".
In 1965 Page was hired by Rolling Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Loog_Oldham) to act as house producer and A&R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26R) man for the newly-formed Immediate Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immediate_Records) label, which also allowed him to play on and/or produce tracks by John Mayall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mayall), Nico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nico), Chris Farlowe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Farlowe), Twice as Much (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_as_Much) and Eric Clapton. Page also formed a brief songwriting partnership with then romantic interest, Jackie DeShannon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_DeShannon). He also composed and recorded songs for the John Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_%28disambiguation%29)[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-22) album The Maureeny Wishful Album with Big Jim Sullivan. Page worked as session musician on Donovan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan) Leitch's Sunshine Superman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Superman_%28album%29) (1966) and the Johnny Hallyday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Hallyday) albums Jeune Homme (1968) and Je Suis Né Dans La Rue (1969), the Al Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Stewart) album Love Chronicles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Chronicles) (1969), and played guitar on five tracks of Joe Cocker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Cocker)'s debut album, With a Little Help from My Friends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_a_Little_Help_from_My_Friends_%28album%29).
When questioned about which songs he played on, especially ones where there exists some controversy as to what his exact role was, Page often points out that it is hard to remember exactly what he did given the enormous number of sessions he was playing at the time.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-DuNoyer-17)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-tripleJ-18) In a radio interview he explained that "I was doing three sessions a day, fifteen sessions a week. Sometimes I would be playing with a group, sometimes I could be doing film music, it could be a folk session ... I was able to fit all these different roles."[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page#cite_note-NPRPage-11)
Although Page recorded with many notable musicians, many of these early tracks are only available as bootleg recordings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg_recording), several of which were released by the Led Zeppelin fan club in the late 1970s. One of the rarest of these is the early jam session featuring Jimmy Page playing with Rolling Stones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stones) guitarist Keith Richards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Richards), featuring a cover of "Little Queen of Spades" by Robert Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson_%28musician%29). Several songs which featured Page's involvement were compiled on the twin album release, Jimmy Page: Session Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page:_Session_Man).

sws1
08-12-2011, 07:52 AM
That's not JP in that vid, is it?

DWB1960
08-12-2011, 07:55 AM
I wonder if Justin Bieber ever saw this!?

LOL!

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/7/7/09b32179-27d7-4b09-b7ee-6bed79f9b276.jpg

skydog
08-12-2011, 07:55 AM
That's not JP in that vid, is it?
It's hard to tell, but I'd rather doubt it.

pickaguitar
08-12-2011, 07:56 AM
and Petula Clark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petula_Clark)'s "Downtown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_%28Petula_Clark_song%29)"
pretty cool..didn't know he was on that playing something

DWB1960
08-12-2011, 07:58 AM
pretty cool..didn't know he was on that playing something

His playing is also in one of the 60s Bond movies - Goldfinger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldfinger_%28song%29#Production

pickaguitar
08-12-2011, 07:59 AM
^ pretty cool...again :)

DWB1960
08-12-2011, 08:07 AM
Jimmy playing some of the coolest double stops and power chords of that time.

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Clifford-D
08-12-2011, 08:40 AM
Hey, those guys aren't even plugged in

Baxtercat
08-12-2011, 10:10 AM
DonnieB, what a great list of tunes. Loved Tobacco Road, Baby Please Don't Go, and others for instance.

Fred Farkus
08-12-2011, 10:14 AM
JP played on an old Al Stewart tune too. Can't remember what it was called but it was 15 minutes long or something. Nice wah work on that one too.

Hecube
08-12-2011, 10:19 AM
That's not JP in that vid, is it?

Who knows?

But the bouncy rhythm playing style sure looks like what he did in the Yardbirds...

monty
08-12-2011, 10:25 AM
I have a old GW mag with a big list containing alot of the sessions JP played on. Mind-blowing to say the least.

DWB1960
08-12-2011, 10:36 AM
Mind-blowing to say the least.

He was already getting press at 19!

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sws1
08-12-2011, 10:42 AM
Jimmy playing some of the coolest double stops and power chords of that time.

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WOW - I didn't know this.

skydog
08-12-2011, 11:09 AM
JP played on an old Al Stewart tune too. Can't remember what it was called but it was 15 minutes long or something. Nice wah work on that one too.
That was more than likely "Love Chronicles" the title track from the album of the same name. Richard Thompson played on that album also under a pseudonym.
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DWB1960
08-12-2011, 11:38 AM
WOW - I didn't know this.

He's all over 5 tracks from that album. Other guitarist is no slouch either. Albert Lee.


http://www.allmusic.com/album/with-a-little-help-from-my-friends-r4235

Flogger59
08-12-2011, 11:45 AM
WOW - I didn't know this.

His face on the back of the album cover might be a clue.

xjojox
08-12-2011, 11:48 AM
Page as well as Blackmore were doing huge numbers of sessions in England in the 60's. And having lots of fun. So I'm sure there are multiple reasons they can't remember everything they played on

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slider313
08-12-2011, 01:26 PM
That's not JP in that vid, is it?

Actually, it does look like him. Check out the stance and body language also.

Hecube
08-12-2011, 02:33 PM
That's not JP in that vid, is it?

If you freeze the video at precisely 0:02, it does look like him...

Edit: check how he frets that chord at 0:04. If that is not a dead giveaway for Jimmy Page...

DWB1960
08-12-2011, 03:54 PM
Edit: check how he frets that chord at 0:04. If that is not a dead giveaway for Jimmy Page...

You're right!

sixty2strat
08-12-2011, 04:36 PM
He's all over 5 tracks from that album. Other guitarist is no slouch either. Albert Lee.


http://www.allmusic.com/album/with-a-little-help-from-my-friends-r4235


Steve Winwood Chris stainton as are several other Names from the UK music scene in 68-69


makes sense Page isin the Video...union gig and scale pay for being on the Telly....better than having a Penguin on the Telly

skydog
08-12-2011, 05:30 PM
If you freeze the video at precisely 0:02, it does look like him...

Edit: check how he frets that chord at 0:04. If that is not a dead giveaway for Jimmy Page...
Is that the "Hendrix" E7 shape used for a "G7"?

Tonekat
08-12-2011, 06:10 PM
I'm just amazed at how much of the early stuff he was on when I was pretty young...."Downtown"? "Goldfinger"? He's a wizard.

skydog
08-12-2011, 09:13 PM
This is cool; at 2:40 or so the MC asks Jimmy what he wants to do after school and he says medical research!

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steveRB
08-12-2011, 10:07 PM
Jimmy the singer....

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DWB1960
08-12-2011, 10:16 PM
^^^^

Nice!

Hecube
08-12-2011, 10:18 PM
Jimmy the singer....

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It would have been fun to Zeppify this tune...

sixty2strat
08-13-2011, 08:11 AM
I'm just amazed at how much of the early stuff he was on when I was pretty young...."Downtown"? "Goldfinger"? He's a wizard.


As a small child my mom had on the Radio and I remember hearing all these adult Top 40 radio, never knowing Page and Jones the influence they'd have.

m1911
08-13-2011, 08:59 AM
From Wiki in the 3rd paragraph it explains the Jimmy Page connection...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman's_Hermits#History

"Despite the group's competent musicianship, some subsequent singles employed session musicians – including ......Jimmy Page........"

Fred Farkus
08-15-2011, 11:58 AM
That was more than likely "Love Chronicles" the title track from the album of the same name. Richard Thompson played on that album also under a pseudonym.
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That's it. I have "The Early Years" on vinyl.

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Page enters at 4:50

pickaguitar
08-15-2011, 12:04 PM
Jimmy the singer....

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pretty cool...didn't know he sang

george nada
08-15-2011, 12:17 PM
i read somewhere that during a period in the late 60's early 70's, page (because of his session work) was the most recorded artist in history, at that time.

dlguitar64
08-15-2011, 01:20 PM
i read somewhere that during a period in the late 60's early 70's, page (because of his session work) was the most recorded artist in history, at that time.

I find that hard to believe when guys like Tommy Tedesco and Howard Roberts were around,not to mention the Nashville and Jazz session cats.

sixty2strat
08-15-2011, 03:20 PM
I find that hard to believe when guys like Tommy Tedesco and Howard Roberts were around,not to mention the Nashville and Jazz session cats.

Hell tommy was even in Happy Kine and the mirth makers

Dave2512
08-15-2011, 03:25 PM
i read somewhere that during a period in the late 60's early 70's, page (because of his session work) was the most recorded artist in history, at that time.

Probably read it on the Zep forum.

skydog
08-15-2011, 06:46 PM
Probably read it on the Zep forum.
Or in the emporium on an ad for a Page LP!