Reverend Gallery

[Glenn_K]

(btw, great thread)

Z.

The thread alone is enough reason to get a Reverend. :)

[BarryJ]

Nice Slingshot!!!!

You better watch out....Wes may try to talk you out of that one....hell, I might try to talk you out of that one!

[Rebel-Guitars]

Nice Slingshot!!!!

You better watch out....Wes may try to talk you out of that one....hell, I might try to talk you out of that one!

I wonder how much shipping is from Amsterdam?

:)

[gtnoise]

I feel a bit like a second class citizen because I'm not talking about the American guitars and it looks like most people here are proudly talking (well gushing) about their U.S. models (well I scanned 20 odd messages out of the 2.5k messages, so I may be misrepresenting the thread).

I'm trying to decide which HB guitar to get without being able to play one - the distributor for Reverend here in Oz is an 8 hour drive away and I can't justify the drive (to my better half), although I'd love to.

What I'm looking for is a versitile rock guitar that can do the rock thing but with a more focussed sound. I think that I'm after the Jetstream as it seems to be the middle model for "fatness", with the Warhawk the most "cutting" and the Charger the "fattest". I don't want a sound that is too "round" - I find Les Pauls great at what they do but inflexible.

Am I correct in my assumption that the Jetstream is middle of the road humbucker model?

[Glenn_K]

Jetstream HB should be somewhat similar to a Rocco I would think. Versitle but not as tight as Warhawk and without the sustain. The Jetstream seems to be the most similar to the US models construction-wise.

[gtnoise]

Jetstream HB should be somewhat similar to a Rocco I would think. Versitle but not as tight as Warhawk and without the sustain. The Jetstream seems to be the most similar to the US models construction-wise.

And, in your opinion, is that a good thing or not? (The similar to US models bit).

[Jon Silberman]

I feel a bit like a second class citizen because I'm not talking about the American guitars and it looks like most people here are proudly talking (well gushing) about their U.S. models (well I scanned 20 odd messages out of the 2.5k messages, so I may be misrepresenting the thread).

...

What I'm looking for is a versitile rock guitar that can do the rock thing but with a more focussed sound. ... I don't want a sound that is too "round" - I find Les Pauls great at what they do but inflexible.

Welcome to TGP and the Reverend Gallery thread! You're not misrepresenting the thread but you may be misrepresenting us. While most of us here own and are primarily interested in the US models, no one is a second class citizen here and everyone - and all things Rev - are welcome.

Perhaps, eventually, you will be the one who teaches us new things about the imports. :)

In general, a 25 1/2" scale guitar will be more "focused" and "spanky" thank its 24 3/4" scale counterpart. That will hold true across all models and PUPs. I don't care for Les Pauls specifically for the reasons you mention (though you are perhaps being more polite than I would be in using the terms "round" and "focus" :eek: ;) ).

Also in general, solid bodies have a bit more mids emphasis than hollow or semihollow guitars. This is, of course, a generalization but you can apply it to the US versus import Revs, too.

[Crazyquilt]

gtnoise, depending on your other guitar tastes, you might consider the Warhawk HB. I find it to be a very versatile guitar -- if it's "cutting," it's more in the way of a Fender than, say, an SG. With the bass contour rolled back, there are pretty convincing single-coil tones, but open it up, and the full HB roar is there. However, it isn't an overwhelmingly thick tone -- I've hardly played humbuckers for years, and the WH got me back in the habit. I've since acquired a Hamer Artist Korina HB, which is a semi-hollow, small-bodied HB guitar -- it's WAY thicker than the Warhawk, but, yes,more refined. Of course, it's an all korina, US made instrument with a shorter scale length & WCR Crossroads instead of the stock '59s. If it wasn't more refined, I'd feel I really wasted my money on it -- but that isn't to take away from the WH, which is a great, gutsy rock guitar, that I've also used for delay-drenched sound-painting where I'd normally use a Jazzmaster or Tele.

[Jon Silberman]

Well, I must say, I'm absolutely thrilled with both the new GFS Mean 90s in my Rocco and the Harmonic Design STP in the bridge slot of my Avenger.

First the Mean 90s. The Rocco used to have these white Harmonic Design Z90s:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/2949318/94025727.jpg

Now they have these new black Mean 90s:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/11679599/191974115.jpg

I really like the Mean 90s. First off, they cost me $37.85 @. No, that is not a typo. (compare the Z90s at $100 @). Second, they are a true vintage P90-sounding PUP, clear and round exactly how the best ones sound, and smooth as a baby's behind. That's in contrast to the Z90s which are also fine PUPs but edgy and aggressive, more like the hugest Strat PUPs you've ever heard or will hear than true P90s (I still have a set of Z90s in this guitar, my Godin LGX-SA, and plan to keep 'em there though I have to say, at GFS's prices, if I were ordering 'em new, I'd go for GFS's Dream 90s instead):

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/1133497/112904216.jpg

The Harmonic Design STP is installed now in my Avenger which looks just like it did before since I used the stock bridge PUP cover on the STP (the Avenger, of course, is on the left - in the middle is my Jackie-Jet which has a new TV Jones Classic Plus in the bridge slot, I'll report on that separately in the Effects, Etc. section):

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/11679599/191974044.jpg

Despite my issues with Petersen ("Mr. Harmonic D.") with my order (which I'm not going into again now, PM me if you care to know), I must say, this is among the (if not the) finest single coil bridge PUP I've ever played. It flat out sounds outstanding, very Tele-ish with that distinctive Tele grind but no icepick. My Avenger bridge position is now usable+ and the axe still sounds plenty quacky in position 2. An all-around winner!

[zzzezums]

jon,
love the tiger and wolf decals!

[Jon Silberman]

Why thank kew! :o

[Avenger]

Hey all. I've been out of pocket for a bit. Traveling for work, etc. I've only had enough time to lurk. I've mostly been playing my Ric lately, but the Avenger is my next go-to guitar (not that I have too many to choose from).

Jon, those GFS pickups are quite a bargain. I like bargains. I'll be interested to hear your review after you've played them a bit. I wonder how the humbuckers sound.

I think I've got to get one of those Harmonic Design pickups for my Avenger too. I've also been looking at some of the Rio Grande P-90 strat sized pickups. I think I've found a good local tech. I just have to take the time to get my guitars in.

[NathanC]

I took the Jetstream to band practice for the first time today. Loved it. It was great to crank the amp and find out about all the tones from that guitar. Bridge pick-up and my amp gives a great twangy lead tone. Yum.

[NathanC]

I feel a bit like a second class citizen because I'm not talking about the American guitars and it looks like most people here are proudly talking (well gushing) about their U.S. models (well I scanned 20 odd messages out of the 2.5k messages, so I may be misrepresenting the thread).

I'm trying to decide which HB guitar to get without being able to play one - the distributor for Reverend here in Oz is an 8 hour drive away and I can't justify the drive (to my better half), although I'd love to.

What I'm looking for is a versitile rock guitar that can do the rock thing but with a more focussed sound. I think that I'm after the Jetstream as it seems to be the middle model for "fatness", with the Warhawk the most "cutting" and the Charger the "fattest". I don't want a sound that is too "round" - I find Les Pauls great at what they do but inflexible.

Am I correct in my assumption that the Jetstream is middle of the road humbucker model?

Hey mate,

I just bought a Jetstream 390 from Global Vintage, which is the Aussie dealer. Brilliant guitar. I really don't think you will be dissapointed if you buy it sight and played-unseen. That's what I did. Rene there has about 6 Rev's instore, and they are all set-up brilliantly and in mint condition. Just order a Jetty. You will love it.

[Joe Naylor]

Hey that's great on the Guitar World CD. Not my choice of guitar reading, but I might pick it up just to check the Warhawk sound. The twin tube pedal sounds cool too. Joe, is the Warhawk reviewed in that issue as well?

Thanks Glenn. Yes, there's a print review as well.

What I'm looking for is a versitile rock guitar that can do the rock thing but with a more focussed sound. I think that I'm after the Jetstream as it seems to be the middle model for "fatness", with the Warhawk the most "cutting" and the Charger the "fattest". I don't want a sound that is too "round" - I find Les Pauls great at what they do but inflexible. Am I correct in my assumption that the Jetstream is middle of the road humbucker model?

I'd say the Charger HB is the middle one, it has more mids than the Jetstream HB, but not as cutting as the Warhawk HB. Do you have Guitar World over there? You should really listen to the cd-rom demo of the Warhawk.

[Joe Naylor]

Wow, the Warhawk review is already on youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Br2k70Jx4

[john1056]

Wow, the Warhawk review is already on youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Br2k70Jx4

:dude

[trinian1]

So I finally sold my Cort and I'm in the market for a Reverend. I've not been without a humbucker guitar of some sort for . . . well, for a long time now (8 or 9 years). I've been thinking all along that I would buy a Rocco because it has humbuckers and because I've played an Eastpointe model before and really liked it. However, I know that a lot of Reverend guys seems to extol the virtues of the Slingshot over . . . well, most other Reverends. I understand that the SS better captures that Reverend "vibe," but if I go with P90's, am I going to miss having a 'bucker equipped guitar? I won't have the cash to buy another guitar for quite a while (years, maybe?--I don't have the cash that a lot of people on the board seem to have!), seeing as how I just bought a G&L ASAT as well.

Obviously, personal preference (mine and all of yours) plays a huge factor in all of this, but I thought I would throw the question out there anyway. Thanks, and peace.

[gtnoise]

Do you have Guitar World over there? You should really listen to the cd-rom demo of the Warhawk.

Yeah - we're not that far from civilization you know! :)

Because the guitars are so reasonably priced and because the dealer here in Oz had one instore, I decided to grab a Jetstream HB.

If it's not what I'm after then the dealer is happy to work with me to trade / exchange etc.

It should be getting to me tommorrow so I'll soon know. If they are as good as they are touted, I might offload a guitar that I seldom use (like my US '62 RI Strat) and grab a P90 model for good measure.

I don't gig like I used to but I still do at least 2 gigs a week and thus I really want a good workhorse guitar or 2. The Revs look like the perfect tool, not too expensive but professional instruments.

Well I hope so anyway!

[Jon Silberman]

I know that a lot of Reverend guys seems to extol the virtues of the Slingshot over . . . well, most other Reverends. I understand that the SS better captures that Reverend "vibe," but if I go with P90's, am I going to miss having a 'bucker equipped guitar?

Thanks, and peace.

Peace unto you too, Brother. :)

Do you have to have a clean & clear humbucker rythym tone or is your primary use of a humbucker for big, powerful, fat lead work?

What follows will get you much more of the latter than the former.

On all of my P90 guitars, whether 3 true P90s like my SSC or 2 HB-sized P90 retrofits like my Rocco and Godin LGX-SA, the guitars are wired with mini-toggles and/or 4-way switches to give my the option of both (or in the case of the SSC, the bridge and neck) P90s in series. This yields an extra huge, fat lead tone for the cost of a $5 part + wiring.

[john1056]

So I finally sold my Cort and I'm in the market for a Reverend. I've not been without a humbucker guitar of some sort for . . . well, for a long time now (8 or 9 years). I've been thinking all along that I would buy a Rocco because it has humbuckers and because I've played an Eastpointe model before and really liked it. However, I know that a lot of Reverend guys seems to extol the virtues of the Slingshot over . . . well, most other Reverends. I understand that the SS better captures that Reverend "vibe," but if I go with P90's, am I going to miss having a 'bucker equipped guitar? I won't have the cash to buy another guitar for quite a while (years, maybe?--I don't have the cash that a lot of people on the board seem to have!), seeing as how I just bought a G&L ASAT as well.

Obviously, personal preference (mine and all of yours) plays a huge factor in all of this, but I thought I would throw the question out there anyway. Thanks, and peace.

My 2 cents...

Nothing sounds like a HB on the bridge, and sometimes that's what you need. From an all around standpoint though, P90s are dirty enough for hard rock, and they are better than HBs for everything from cleans to dirty settings. I would really recommend the bass contour for any Reverend you decide on U.S. or Stage King, becuse it makes the guitar so flexible.

[Glenn_K]

If you like that humbucker sound... a P90 might not cut it. A P90 is more down and dirty than a humbucker. If you want that, then great. Get both. :-) I agree that the bass contour is a nice feature. Even if you find you don't use it much it's nice to have. Some people love the Roccos and they won awards, etc. so I wouldn't shy away because most people here are into the Slingshots. That said, the Rocco is my least favorite of the US models. My taste goes Avenger TL, Wolfman, SS, Rocco. But that could change at any point depending on application, pedal and amp combo, etc. You can make a great rock guitar out of any of these.

[Jon Silberman]

Look all these Alltone raves (Joe, you listenin'?!)!

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=175328

[Joe Naylor]

Look all these Alltone raves (Joe, you listenin'?!)!

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=175328

Flattered and proud... maybe I should talk that company into reissuing them!

[Mike Duncan]

I have to say that I thought the Warhawk looks and sounds fantastic on that clip Joe!

[Jon Silberman]

Flattered and proud... maybe I should talk that company into reissuing them!

That would be an idea. ;)

[MajorDude]

Can anyone provide some info on the amp/effects used for that demo? There's some cool delay/echo going on there. Pretty tasty humbucking sounds, as well.

[trinian1]

Thanks for the thoughts on the P90s vs. Hums. I think I'm still going to go Rocco for now--besides, I could always try to grab a pickguard or two and some P90s from the Rev site and wire 'em up myself, and it would be easier to wire two P90s than the tapped HBs (of course, I'll have to learn to do some wiring . . . and sautering--but hey, that's all part of the fun).

[Tycho]

Hi folks. I'm a new member here. I thought I'd drop in to mention my little stable of Reverends. I've got a Rocco and a Spy, both Eastpointes circa 1999-2000. I've also got a nice Drivetrain II. But I agonized too long and missed out on a Goblin.

I'm photography-challenged, but at some point I'll post pics if I can.

[Tycho]

I too loved the Warhawk demo.

I was just reading back through this thread and noticing what people had to say about their favourite Rev models. There's no doubt that for me, the Rocco is the best all-rounder; if I can only bring one guitar to a gig, that's usually the one I bring.

But I have to say that I really love my Spy. I pulled it out last night for the first time in a few months and played it through my DRRI (I'm trying to decide whether or not to sell that amp, since I don't like it so much for HBs and P-90s) and the Spy sounded just magical through it.

I bought it just before they were discontinued, and it's one guitar I know I'll never sell.

[photomat]

It was up there, but I sold it to someone here on the TGP. I have another cool SS going up today. Its a really good one, but I'm going to work on the metal finishes. There's a Lava Swirl bass I'm trying to talk a guy out of locally.
Well, I finally got around to photographing my new SSC (thanks Wes).

I am new to Reverends, after just picking up a Charger 290 from Reverend. I had a tough choice on which guitar to play on Sunday at church....the charger won out this week.

http://web.mac.com/wm7n/iWeb/Matt%27s%20Guitars/Reverend%20Sling%20Shot%20Custom%20%28SSC%29_files/GF7S2725.jpg
http://web.mac.com/wm7n/iWeb/Matt%27s%20Guitars/Reverend%20Sling%20Shot%20Custom%20%28SSC%29_files/GF7S2718.jpg

Great guitars and and thanks again Wes.

Here is a link to more photos of the SSC and my other guitars, including the Charger 290. http://web.mac.com/wm7n/iWeb/Matt%27s%20Guitars/Reverend%20Sling%20Shot%20Custom%20%28SSC%29.html

[Rebel-Guitars]

The pictures look great!!!

[Jon Silberman]

Hi folks. I'm a new member here. I thought I'd drop in to mention my little stable of Reverends. I've got a Rocco and a Spy, both Eastpointes circa 1999-2000. I've also got a nice Drivetrain II. But I agonized too long and missed out on a Goblin.

I'm photography-challenged, but at some point I'll post pics if I can.

Hey, Tycho, welcome to the Gallery!

If you have the pics taken already but no place to post 'em, email 'em to me and I'll post 'em for ya. :)

[Jon Silberman]

Thanks for the thoughts on the P90s vs. Hums. I think I'm still going to go Rocco for now--besides, I could always try to grab a pickguard or two and some P90s from the Rev site and wire 'em up myself, and it would be easier to wire two P90s than the tapped HBs (of course, I'll have to learn to do some wiring . . . and sautering--but hey, that's all part of the fun).

Welcome to you too, trinian1. :BEER

[Fred_C]

That's a beauty, photomat. I love dragonfly green.

[Tycho]

Thanks Jon. I don't have digital photos of them right now, but if I manage to take some, I'll take you up on that.

[photomat]

That's a beauty, photomat. I love dragonfly green.
Thanks...I did say FireFly green....ooops Thanks for the correction. I love the look of this finish.

Here is another photo

http://web.mac.com/wm7n/iWeb/Matt%27s%20Guitars/Reverend%20Sling%20Shot%20Custom%20%28SSC%29_files/GF7S2741.jpg

[Mike Duncan]

Oh man!!! That's an awesome SSC!!! Welcome aboard!

[Jon Silberman]

Thanks Jon. I don't have digital photos of them right now, but if I manage to take some, I'll take you up on that.
BTW, here's where I post my pictures. It's fast, easy, and cheap to establish an account.

www.picturetrail.com (http://www.picturetrail.com)

[john1056]

I too loved the Warhawk demo.

I was just reading back through this thread and noticing what people had to say about their favourite Rev models. There's no doubt that for me, the Rocco is the best all-rounder; if I can only bring one guitar to a gig, that's usually the one I bring.

But I have to say that I really love my Spy. I pulled it out last night for the first time in a few months and played it through my DRRI (I'm trying to decide whether or not to sell that amp, since I don't like it so much for HBs and P-90s) and the Spy sounded just magical through it.

I bought it just before they were discontinued, and it's one guitar I know I'll never sell.

I converted an Eastpointe Slingshot to a Spy, and I agree with you, they can sould magical though the right amp :) My U.S. rev preference is Slingshot -> Spy -> Rocco. The Slingshot is #1 because it can cover more ground, but the Spy is probably my favorite sounding guitar.

[portsider]

I converted an Eastpointe Slingshot to a Spy, and I agree with you, they can sould magical though the right amp :) My U.S. rev preference is Slingshot -> Spy -> Rocco. The Slingshot is #1 because it can cover more ground, but the Spy is probably my favorite sounding guitar.
Correct as usual John.
I have been playing my Avenger GT a lot lately to see if I can warm up to it. So far it is "nice, but..." I really want to dig this guitar because it is a USA Reverend with a whammy. Then again half the time it seems a whammy in my hand is just askin' for trouble.
I digress... SSC, Spy, Rocco in that order with the Spy sounding best.

[Paul Conway]

Oh, that SSC is a work of art.

[Bob Wood]

Great Pics PhotoMat!

Seeing that metal finish close up, man I know I'll have to get one of those in the future.

[Jon Silberman]

Oh, that SSC is a work of art.

Nah, it's a practical and functional tool.

... Wait - it's both!!!

:D

[trinian1]

Wow. I do have to say, it sucks that I've decided to try a Rocco first. There are apparently none to be had right now, and Wes's SS is mighty fine looking, and currently someone is going to get a fantastic deal on it. I mean, patience is all well and good, but . . . I'm fighting hard not to snipe it! 6 minutes and 16 seconds . . . must . . . resist!

[fyler]

are Stage King owners allowed in here, too? or are we the neglected stepchildren?

anyway, i just received a metallic blue Warhawk HB today. i'm gonna have to take some pics, tonight & show her off.

[Jon Silberman]

are Stage King owners allowed in here, too? or are we the neglected stepchildren?

I can see we're going to have to answer these same questions for every newbie.

Yes and no!

Seriously, welcome, stick around, and hurry with those pics! :BEER

[Jon Silberman]

P.S. fyler, you know I'm pulling your leg, right (you ain't no newbie)?! :p

[martyncrew]

Geez - SS Jr just sold for $849 and Wes' faux finish SS only sells for $527? que pasa?

[Rebel-Guitars]

Geez - SS Jr just sold for $849 and Wes' faux finish SS only sells for $527? que pasa?

It actually sold for 605.00, I don't know why its showing 527.00 in the Completed section. Still, 605.00 is pretty cheap.

[Rebel-Guitars]

Hey, I'm in a mood tonight to move some stuff around. Besides all the Reverend Stuff I just bought, I got in another Trussart, a Duesenberg Outlaw, couple 3 ESPs, Hamer Vector. Anyway, I'm "thinking" about selling my Rick Vito model Reverend and maybe my Hellhound Head ser#00002 w/matching 4x10 cabinet. Of course I'd probably trade for another Reverend metal top!

No lip from you Martyn!!!

[photomat]

are Stage King owners allowed in here, too? or are we the neglected stepchildren?

anyway, i just received a metallic blue Warhawk HB today. i'm gonna have to take some pics, tonight & show her off.

I love my Charger 290. I have been playing it every night since I got it.

http://web.mac.com/wm7n/iWeb/Matt%27s%20Guitars/Reverend%20Charger%20290_files/G7K60723.jpg

[photomat]

Oh, that SSC is a work of art.

I agree, this new (to me) SSC is a beauty. I am enjoying playing it as much as looking at it!....In fact I was cutting off the tag ends of the strings....and clipped the string instead because I was looking at the cool metal top.:jo

[photomat]

Great Pics PhotoMat!

Seeing that metal finish close up, man I know I'll have to get one of those in the future.

Thanks, Bob, I love guitars and photography...so it is a great combination, and I think the photos of the SSC really capture the look and color well.

Welcome to the forum......I just joined too. I first saw a Reverend in a Worship Guitar Instructional DVD...and emailed the fellow to ask what guitar he had. It was an aged yellow SSC with the blonde Maple neck and white pickguard. It was the looks that first caught my eye....:drool

[portsider]

That guy who bought the butchered Red SS is trying to sell it again on Ebay. I can't imagine why someone would sand off the finish on an EPN. I look at those pictures and feel like someone had spit onthe flag.:(
He didn't get a bite at $400.
If you buy a damaged Reverend you'd better be sure you want it because the resale will be doo doo. :jo

[fyler]

i'm glad i'm welcome. (and i figured the question had been asked, but i wasn't quite up to reading all 154 pages :o )

oh...pics!
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/voerking/DSCN1059.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/voerking/guitars/DSCN1061.jpg

[Jon Silberman]

That seller seems awfully dumb for not at least finishing the sanding job and hand-rubbing on one light coat of a suitable oil so the guitar at least looks nice in the pictures.

[fyler]

i'm glad i'm welcome. (and i figured the question had been asked, but i wasn't quite up to reading all 154 pages :o )

oh...pics!
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/voerking/DSCN1059.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/voerking/guitars/DSCN1061.jpg oh, yeah, the previous owner put Bill Lawrence pickups in it (you may recognize it - it was in the emporium last week). i wish i could have tried it stock, but these pups are really great sounding.

[Jon Silberman]

fyler, The guitar is beautiful. Love the grain on that windowsill, too! :o

[fyler]

Love the grain on that windowsill, too!

my secret to perfectly relic'd windowsills: two cats who still have their claws.

[Jon Silberman]

Believe me, I know about that. :eek: :)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/9321850/132916467.jpg

[Jon Silberman]

That seller seems awfully dumb for not at least finishing the sanding job and hand-rubbing on one light coat of a suitable oil so the guitar at least looks nice in the pictures.

P.S. There's a thread on tung oil in the forum right now.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=172422

[Bob Wood]

Welcome to the forum......I just joined too. I first saw a Reverend in a Worship Guitar Instructional DVD...and emailed the fellow to ask what guitar he had. It was an aged yellow SSC with the blonde Maple neck and white pickguard. It was the looks that first caught my eye....:drool

Thanks for the Welcome. The Revs are lookers alright.

Fyler - that guitar is great looking as well, the pickups look Tuff!

Drooling over these Revs reminds me of the feeling I got as a kid checking out Hotwheels! (except I don't get to bring one home everytime I'm a good boy in the store!;) ) http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/archive/guitar_gallery/index.htm

[BoomXer]

That is both a cool and dangerous (to my wallet) link!

[Jon Silberman]

Another welcome to all the new folks in the thread. So cool to have y'all. :RoCkIn

[martyncrew]

If that SS sells for $3-400, it's a decent buy. Respraying the back of the neck is pretty simple and rewiring the pups is a breeze. You could even buy one those pre-made $40-50 Telecaster rewiring harnesses and just wire in the P90s. Of course the body is a whole other issue. Maybe a candidate for a custom wooden Rev body or a neck transplant onto a (don't say it!) import body!!!

[Jon Silberman]

The concern is not the need to respray but how much actual wood the guy who did the sanding - who I would submit, from the pictures, is a rank amateur - removed along with the finish.

[martyncrew]

Agreed, although the seller is pretty clear that he believes only the finish was removed.

[john1056]

are Stage King owners allowed in here, too? or are we the neglected stepchildren?

anyway, i just received a metallic blue Warhawk HB today. i'm gonna have to take some pics, tonight & show her off.

Hey fyler, I was an early adopter, I have a prototype Charger 290, my father in law got his son a metalic blue warhawk, and he loves it :) I think one of the Warhawks will probably be my next Rev.

[portsider]

i'm glad i'm welcome. (and i figured the question had been asked, but i wasn't quite up to reading all 154 pages :o )

oh...pics!
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/voerking/DSCN1059.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/voerking/guitars/DSCN1061.jpg
Welcome aboard, fyler.
Most of us were playing Reverends before there was a Stage King series and we tend to really like the unique qualities of the phenolic Reverends. However we know Joe's standards and there is nothing wrong with the imports. They are still unique instruments that appeal to the slightly off-the-beaten-path player.:RoCkIn

[john1056]

That guy who bought the butchered Red SS is trying to sell it again on Ebay. I can't imagine why someone would sand off the finish on an EPN. I look at those pictures and feel like someone had spit onthe flag.:(
He didn't get a bite at $400.
If you buy a damaged Reverend you'd better be sure you want it because the resale will be doo doo. :jo

Oh the humanity!!!!!! I commend the seller for his honesty though.

[portsider]

That is a beautiful Warhawk. It is the same color as my Prototype Jetstream 390. You got the sparkle to show up really well. This is a picture of my actual guitar from the Reverend archives.

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/archive/guitar_gallery/pages/jetstream_proto_blu_jpg.htm

[Uffe]

what are the odds of finding a two tone tear drop case (w/o a guitar) anywhere?

[portsider]

what are the odds of finding a two tone tear drop case (w/o a guitar) anywhere?
Keep trolling Ebay and grab the first Buy It Now you see.

[ski]

Hey guys!

While I'm not a new Reverend owner, I am new to TGP! I still frequent a couple of other forums, including the RDP, but I like what I've seen here so...well...here I am.

Reason for the post: I have a Workhorse SS and a Bigsby-equipped Flatroc. I recently switched from a DRRI to a 5E3 clone and I've noticed that the SS sounds notably darker through the tweed than it did through the BF. Have others experienced this? It's making me put the SS down and pick up my 52RI more often than not and, frankly, I'm feeling a little guilty about it.... :(

[martyncrew]

Yep, the tweed tone stack and the middy-SS P90s will do that! Stick a graphic equalizer or boost with a tone control in there and you will be fine.

[Jon Silberman]

Guilt is always optional. ;)

[ski]

Guilt is always optional. ;)

Where I come from, guilt is the automatic default mode! :)

I like the boost pedal idea. Would a Drivetrain 2 with the gain set low accomplish that?

[Fred_C]

Hi Ski,

I have a SSC without the Bass contour knob and a 5E3 clone. I can't remember the layout of the tone controls without looking at the amp, but this guitar sounds good plugged into the low gain guitar input (bottom right input as you are facing the amp), with the mic volume on full, the guitar volume on 50-75% and the tone knob around 50%. It does get a little dark if you back down on the mic volume to the sweet spot where all the mids come in (which sounds fantastic with a tele, why feel guitly?). Incidentally, I also found that my wolfman, which I have since sold, sounded absolutely amazing through the mic inputs and the volume and mids maxed.

[Jon Silberman]

Curious - anyone else with this problem? Just tried to raise the middle PUP on my SSC. I can't - the PUP is wedged so tightly into the pickguard it won't move! I guess I'm gonna have take the whole 'guard off, huh?

[portsider]

Curious - anyone else with this problem? Just tried to raise the middle PUP on my SSC. I can't - the PUP is wedged so tightly into the pickguard it won't move! I guess I'm gonna have take the whole 'guard off, huh?
Have you tried rocking it gently while adjusting the screw? I'll bet it is just binding a little at one edge.

[Jon Silberman]

Haven't tried it yet. Was hoping someone would recommend it followed by the statement, "You won't wreck anything by rocking it gently." ;)

[portsider]

Haven't tried it yet. Was hoping someone would recommend it followed by the statement, "You won't wreck anything by rocking it gently." ;)
You won't wreck anything by rocking it gently.

... Ah aims to please!

[Jon Silberman]

Thank kew. :D

[Mike Duncan]

When I lowered my SSC pickups, I noticed a glue-like bond between the pickguard and cover...gentle rocking did the trick!


Speaking of gentle rocking...look what I got on Thursday.......


http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/193397947.jpg

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/193398717.jpg

Mom and Alexander were home within 26 hours of delivery! Full moom prompted a run on these babies!

Mike

[Mudder]

My new additions aren't nearly as cute, but I like 'em.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/Mudder1310/PICT0001-1.jpg

[Crazyquilt]

Congrats, Mike! Looks like he's trying out for a metal band, complete with air guitar, in the second picture. :dude

We're hoping to bring our little girl home this week, maybe as soon as Monday. We've only waited for three weeks....

[martyncrew]

Congrats, Mike!

[tonedaddy]

Big congrats to you and your wife, Mike!
Very, very cool!!
:AOK

[Glenn_K]

Mike,

I know you didn't get THAT on the in-stock page. :)

[Avenger]

Congratulations on the addition to your collection, Mike. :)

And congratulations CQ. I hope all is well with the health of your new daughter.

[Jon Silberman]

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/193398717.jpg


Looks just like you when you're riffin' on the blues! :p

Congrats to the missus and you, Mike!

[portsider]

Congrats, Mike! You know you'll end up stuck on bass on the family band.:)

[tdu]

I am already a Reverend guitar owner (Charger 290), and I am currently looking at a Used Reverend Goblin.

I had actually been shopping around for a small, light EL84 combo but I know someone (not local) selling ones of these. The specs on it sound amazing...except it's not an EL84 combo.

The info online claims that they amps can do a huge variety of sounds, and do them quite well. However, It'd like to get some input from forum users because I find people on here tend to be more balanced with reviews. I think in a lot of cases HC reviews are posted right after purchasing during the honey moon period.

Can these amps do a Fender-ish clean, and a Vox-y tone as advertised?

Have people who owned them found them reliable? I am just curious about this issue because while they aren't a really expensive amp, they are a lot more pricey than something like a used Peavey/Traynor and from what I have *heard/read* (no first hand experience) they are about the same build quality.

Thanks

[HeyMrTeleMan]

Cause I'm gonna tell you honeys, he's Bad to the Bone... B-b-b-bad:cool:

Notice how perfectly formed and poised his left hand is for playing guitar.:angel

And to think you made him at home, in your spare time, with parts you had around the house.:rotflmao

Congrats, Mike. We welcome our new little future taxpayer...

Blind Lemon Pledge

...Speaking of gentle rocking...look what I got on Thursday.......
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/193398717.jpg

[Paul Conway]

Best wishes and congrats on the new arrival, Mike. Hope it doesn't bite into your playing time too much. Mind you, I wish my dad had a guitar collection like yours.:AOK

[HeyMrTeleMan]

OK, if you INSIST:
This is my Charger HB in flame maple. It's a really thick maple cap on a chambered mahogany body. Thick fat neck, about 8.5 lbs and I just ripped it through the Goodsell Super17 MkII 210 just to see/hear if it was really mine or if I'm imagining this dream... Somebody slap me silly:)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/Tomway301/ChargerBody1.jpg

And this:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/Tomway301/ChargerAngle1.jpg

Oh, and I wanted to add this too:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/Tomway301/ChargerFullAngle1.jpg

And just to see how The Rev is getting along with the Goodsell (excuse the mess):
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/Tomway301/ChargerWGoodsell1.jpg

BLP

are Stage King owners allowed in here, too? or are we the neglected stepchildren?

anyway, i just received a metallic blue Warhawk HB today. i'm gonna have to take some pics, tonight & show her off.

[HeyMrTeleMan]

Stop, children. What's that sound? It's a Reverend guitar.

Wow! To date, this thread has had over 70,000 views and over 2300 replies.
Must be a lot of Reverend fans here.

Joe Naylor, I salute you...

Steven Steals

[Beth]

Congrats Mike on the new addition! I will be adding to my own brood in March (No. 4).

[Avenger]

Congratulations to you too, Beth.

[Rebel-Guitars]

Congrats to Mike and to Beth!!! Mike, he already has as much hair as I do!!

[Beth]

CQ I too hope all is well with your daughter! Let us know when the homecoming happens.

[photomat]

http://homepage.mac.com/wm7n/.Pictures/193398717.jpg


I just could not pass this up!

[Mike Duncan]

Thank you everyone!!! It's a very exciting and sleep-free time here at the Duncan household. Alexander's big brother, Henry (who shares a birthday with Jon Silberman), in not super happy about the baby stepping in on his turf!

I love the photoshop work there photomat!!

Congratulations to Beth and CQ! We'll be looking forward to the little one coming home CQ!

Now, does Alex need a Jetstream 390 in Blue? Perhaps....

[HeyMrTeleMan]

As a Certified Stand-Up Comedian (Amateur Division), I make it my daily MISSION to make someone laugh. Out loud. But in addition to giving the gift of laughter, you sometimes have to be willing to receive it. This is that sometime.

I try to make it a habit to NOT have coffee in my mouth at likely funny times (although you can never tell when hilarity will break out) and I'm glad I did not see Photomat's photo illustration with coffee in my mouth, because it would've spewed out my nose, and ruined my keyboard (Don't ask;^). I broke out in a bellyaching laugh that I can only hope my victims experience when I "Get em;^)

Payback is funny. Thank you very much...

(BTW-the tune he was playing in the pic was that familiar Blues tune "I'm A Boy"):RoCkIn

BLP
http://homepage.mac.com/wm7n/.Pictures/193398717.jpg
I just could not pass this up!

[Glenn_K]

I am already a Reverend guitar owner (Charger 290), and I am currently looking at a Used Reverend Goblin.

snip

TDU, I have a Goblin I love. I'm not very good at making the comparisons you mention but mine has been reliable. No problems. I bought it when they first came out an it has the 10" Alltone in it (the newer ones have a Jenson). Works for me and sounds great. Best recording amp I've ever had. For its size it can belt it out too. Plus the ability to connect an external cab is a plus as well.

--Glenn

[Rebel-Guitars]

For anyone interested, (or just wants to see if/what it sells for) I listed my Rick Vito on eBay. I have some leads on a few things I want to try, so this and a couple other things have to go. Someone go buy it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120040638257

[Mike Duncan]

I REALLY don't need to see that Vito!

[BarryJ]

Nice........those are some seriously funky graphics!

(needs a Bigsby, though..........:p )

[Rebel-Guitars]

I just went out on the 'Bay to see if the Vito was showing up yet, and bought this!!! So much for rounding up some cash!! Oh well, never had a Wolfie, so I'll give it a try, then turn it loose.
http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-Reverend-Wolfman-Filtertron-Pickups-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ320036722380QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2384Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Glenn_K]

Yeah, I saw that Wolfman. Not a bad deal. Wes, you're funny. You just buy 'em and try 'em.

[photomat]

(BTW-the tune he was playing in the pic was that familiar Blues tune "I'm A Boy"):RoCkIn

BLP[/QUOTE]

I am sure he was playing the blues using a bottle-neck slide:roll

[Rebel-Guitars]

Yeah, I saw that Wolfman. Not a bad deal. Wes, you're funny. You just buy 'em and try 'em.


I've got a few not going anywhere. ;)

[Bob Wood]

I just went out on the 'Bay to see if the Vito was showing up yet, and bought this!!! So much for rounding up some cash!! Oh well, never had a Wolfie, so I'll give it a try, then turn it loose.

:AOK I am in full-on honeymoon mode with my Wolfman. I was playing almost all acoustic before I got it - now it's nothing but the Wolf every night.

This is only my second electric so it's the first time i've had anything to compare my SG to. The neck pup sounds are similiar but I really like the twangy-ness of the bridge pup (I usually never play bridge pup on SG).

Besides sound, (news flash-)the Reverend feels and looks sooo good :D

[Joe Naylor]

Congrats to Mike, Beth and CQ! :AOK

[Jon Silberman]

CQ, any news yet?!

[Fred_C]

Hey tdu-

I meant to post earlier about your goblin questions. My response got kind of long-winded and nonsensical so I just deleted it. I did want to get back to you though.

First, I have owned at some time 6 different Rev USA guitars and a Rumblefish, as well as the goblin. I think the goblin is the best Rev USA product out of all of them, and it's a shame it was discontinued. It's fairly small, and amazingly light. It can cover a wide variety of sounds, and it has a very useful master volume that can dial in a really nice tone at low volume. It can also get really loud and still sounds good. It gest a nice blackface clean which can become a little gritty depending on how you set the master volume. The UK settings are also nice - the "vox" setting is a meatier clean that cuts through more than the "blackface," and the "marshall" setting is a crunchy, midrange-heavy settign which sounds good but I don't really use a lot. The "lo-fi" setting is a bonus that I really like but tend to forget about.

I play single coil guitars and prefer fairly clean or slightly overdriven fender-type tones. Since I have had the goblin I have had a DRRI, 1974 Princeton reverb, and tweed deluxe clone to compare it to. I don't have anything to compare directly with the UK settings so I can't vouch for their authenticity. If you need the pure, unadulterated fender clean sound at a low volume, a Princeton reverb is the best I've heard. But for the money, you get a lot more with the goblin. With a $20 dano tremolo pedal, it's 9/10 the amp that a Princeton reverb is, and that's not including all of the other sounds it gets you. If I could own only 1 guitar and 1 amp, it would be my slingshot custom and goblin.

I can think of only 2 criticisms of the goblin. first, its' not made any more, so although that tends to drive up the price on the used market, who knows what effect it will have on the longevity and seviceability of the amp. Second, I think it would go from great to perfect if it came in a slightly larger cab with a 12" speaker (I think one or two were made with those specs). As is is it sounds just a little "boxy", and I wonder if a bigger cab and speaker might open it up just a bit?

[Jon Silberman]

Fred, curious, have you also played a Hellhound or Kingsnake to compare the Goblin to?

[Fred_C]

Jon, I played a Hellhound briefly in Joe's music in Eastpointe when I was visiting my brother-in-law in Detroit a few years ago. I didn't know too much about the controls at that time, and probably didn't really appreciate what it was capable of. I played a Kingsnake briefly at an FDP jam in Denver last year, and only played the blackface setting but really liked it.

[Beth]

Nice photo there Photomat! Great subject makes for great art.

[jackthecat37]

Hmmm...the plexi Commando price keeps dropping. Now $899. Pretty tempting

[photomat]

Nice photo there Photomat! Great subject makes for great art.

Thanks for the cudos....you did all the work! Congratulations!

[BlueHeaven]

Fred C,
I agree 100% about the Goblin! Though I mainly play my Avenger TL thru it at church, my main squeeze (Eastpointe Rocco) is superb with it. My SS sounds awesome too now that I think about it.
Greg

[Fred_C]

A couple things I meant to include in my earlier post: First, the goblin sounds better with my limited supply of pedals (tone press, VS route 66 and H2O, dano tuna melt) than other amps I have tried. Also, Reverend guitars and amps seem like they were made for each other (duh!). All reverend guitars I have owned sound best through my Goblin. The goblin, on the other hand, sounds great with tele's, strats, a Gretsch, and just about everything else I've run through it. Reverend guitars seem to sound good but take a little more work to get the right sound through the other amps I have had. Again, it's really a shame that the amps were d/c'd.

[portsider]

I just went out on the 'Bay to see if the Vito was showing up yet, and bought this!!! So much for rounding up some cash!! Oh well, never had a Wolfie, so I'll give it a try, then turn it loose.
http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-Reverend-Wolfman-Filtertron-Pickups-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ320036722380QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2384Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wes, that was a good buy. Even if it is a workhorse, you'll not loose any money on the resale.
Looks like someone snagged the Vito. Those must be really rare. Five or six made? Joe?

[Rebel-Guitars]

Wes, that was a good buy. Even if it is a workhorse, you'll not loose any money on the resale.
Looks like someone snagged the Vito. Those must be really rare. Five or six made? Joe?

I heard 25-30 of the Vito's.

[Paul Conway]

Just picked up a second workhorse rev (Commando, aged yellow, pristine). I'm thinking that really, it needs to be a Wolfman. Unfortunately, Reverend appear to be out of the electronics.....

.....I don't suppose anyone knows of any they might be offloading?

[Jon Silberman]

Jon, I played a Hellhound briefly in Joe's music in Eastpointe when I was visiting my brother-in-law in Detroit a few years ago. I didn't know too much about the controls at that time, and probably didn't really appreciate what it was capable of. I played a Kingsnake briefly at an FDP jam in Denver last year, and only played the blackface setting but really liked it.

The reason I asked is my experience is if you're playing at gig/jam volumes and don't need a clear clean tone, a Goblin will work. Otherwise, you're 100X better off with a pair of 6L6s. ;)

[Joe Naylor]

I posted this at the RDP, but figured it wouldn't hurt to post here as well:

Ron Asheton's lone Drivetrain II that he always uses to front-end the Marshalls has gone MIA.

He needs at least a couple, so he has a backup.

If anyone has or knows of any Drivetrain II's for sale or trade (lots of neato stuff at our In-Stock page) please email me at sales@reverendguitars.com

Thanks! Joe

[BlueHeaven]

Joe,
You have mail. I'm leaving for work now but shoot me an email if you want and I'll see it in the morning.
Greg

[Glenn_K]

This always happens to me.... I was thinking I would sell my Drivetrain II to the Ron Asheton cause, but decided to plug it in and give it a second chance. It rocks! I don't think I can let it go!

[trinian1]

Wes, I see that you've tried out the Wolfman and are now letting it go already. What did you think, if you don't mind my asking? And isn't it kind of a pain to turn over so much gear? Or is there a hottie working at the local UPS outlet? ;-) (Okay, I asked three questions there, not just one.)

[Rebel-Guitars]

Wes, I see that you've tried out the Wolfman and are now letting it go already. What did you think, if you don't mind my asking? And isn't it kind of a pain to turn over so much gear? Or is there a hottie working at the local UPS outlet? ;-) (Okay, I asked three questions there, not just one.)

Lets' see, as for your last question, hell no!!! Second question, sometimes, but if its a fair deal and I've been wanting to try out something, its not that bad. Works with my schedule pretty well.

As for the guitar, its very cool and in great shape, and looks much better with the white guard back on. I'm very impressed with the Revtrons. And if I make a dollar or two on some of these "try outs", that's just more to put towards the next keeper!!

[martyncrew]

What do you guys think is a fair price for a cowboy 4x10? $500?

thanks, Martyn

[Rebel-Guitars]

What do you guys think is a fair price for a cowboy 4x10? $500?

thanks, Martyn

If you're talking about the one with the flight case, the seller had no clue what shipping would be. I bet its going to be high. I think 500.00 is fair based on the rarity.

I may know of another 4x10 for sale if you're interested(not mine..well maybe 2 then), just shoot me an email or pm.

[trinian1]

Okay, so I'm getting very close to abandoning buying a Rocco and buying a SSC instead--I've found one in a color and price that are pleasing to me. However, I was wondering about buying a pickguard and a set of buckers from the Reverend site and wiring up a Rocco pickguard, too--that way I would effectively have the two sounds with a simple drop in of a new pickguard.

Here's my first question--besides the pickups and the guard, what else will I need to wire the sucker up with the coil taps? As I see it, I'll need the following: some wire (duh), two mini toggles, an output jack, some pots (tone and volume--would they have the same value?), a selector switch, maybe a cap of some sort and some way to mount the pickups to the pickguard. Huh--now that I type it out, there's more there than I thought. Am I missing anything? And what exactly do I need to mount the buckers to the guard?

By the way, I'm a total, 100% newbie when it comes to repairing/modding guitars. So my second question is where can I go to figure out how to actually put all of this together? Any Rev owners do this before?

And (the questions keep on coming) where is the best place to buy the above stated parts?

Finally, is my first assumption about being able to merely replace the SSC pickguard with a Rocco pickguard correct? All of the wiring is attached/hanging from the actual guard, since the jack is also mounted to the guard, right?

Whew! I know this is a tech question and not so much a guitar admiration/tone question, but I thought the Rev thread here would be a better place to ask than the tech forum. If I'm wrong, tell me, and I'll remove and post elsewhere. Thanks!

[Jon Silberman]

Welcome!

What I would do in your position is first determine exactly how I want to wire the PUPs and the options you want (e.g., do you want a an out-of-phase option?) and then re-post your question in the Guitar and Bass Technical Info. section as, at that point, it's not a Reverend question per se but rather a universal wiring question.

[john1056]

Okay, so I'm getting very close to abandoning buying a Rocco and buying a SSC instead--I've found one in a color and price that are pleasing to me. However, I was wondering about buying a pickguard and a set of buckers from the Reverend site and wiring up a Rocco pickguard, too--that way I would effectively have the two sounds with a simple drop in of a new pickguard.



I would say if you've never wired anything before a pickguard is going to be really confusing. If you are super motivated - Guitar Jones carries the selector/knobs Reverend uses, and you can get the pots and values from Reverend's site. Mini toggles, jack etc. from Mouser or Allparts. You'll need a soldering iron that gets hot enough to solder against the backs of your pots too (so not the $7 one from Radio Shack). You can use the schematics on the seymour duncan site. Developing this sort of skill is very useful and will save you a lot of money IMO. Good luck :)

[martyncrew]

Trinian:

It's easy enough to do and there are plenty of wiring diagrams available on the web if you need ideas/help. However, if you have any doubts - find a guitar tech! You're talking about a hours work to wire up a twin hb pickguard.

That said, most of us would say that an SSC is the definitive Reverend and I'd give it a while before I converted it to twin hb. One option would be to wire in a switch on the SSC that put 2 of the P90s into a pseudo-hb configuration - it's a huge huge sound.

Martyn

[trinian1]

Yeah, Mr. Silberman mentioned that several posts back. I actually found a Rocco on Ebay seconds after I posted my question (in a smokin' yellow)--I think I'll give it a bid, and if it tops out higher than I can go, then I'll probably go with the SSC (if the seller still has it).

And the plan isn't to replace the SSC electronics--it is to have the two alternatives. Not nearly as easy as buying both a SSC and a Rocco, but much cheaper. And potentially more frustrating, but also potentially more fun--I need to learn all about resistors and caps and guitar wiring and what they all do to tone anyway, sometime. And then I'll be ready to build my very own Trainwreck clone! (sorry, I couldn't resist the joke--I see so many posts/threads about them, I felt like I just needed to somehow work the word trainwreck in somehow)

Peace, all. Thanks for making a newbie feel welcome.

[photomat]

I just picked this up from wes, but it is so close in sound to my CHarger 290, that I am keeping that one instead. I promise not to follow in the footsteps of Wes as far as buying and selling so many, but he was great to deal with and I am sure he can vouch for the guitar and for me.

Check the emporium. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=178135

[Jon Silberman]

Yeah, Mr. Silberman mentioned that several posts back.

Mr. Silberman?! My dad's posting here, too?!

;)

[Avenger]

I just picked this up from wes, but it is so close in sound to my CHarger 290, that I am keeping that one instead. I promise not to follow in the footsteps of Wes as far as buying and selling so many, but he was great to deal with and I am sure he can vouch for the guitar and for me.

Check the emporium. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=178135

Very cool guitar. That dragonfly green always gets my attention. Hope you sell it quick.

[Crazyquilt]

Temptation's been all around, of late. That SSC is the latest appearance. Dragonfly green is a cool finish, and I like to think the SSC I had, however briefly, was an anomaly, since I like my SS every bit as much as I disliked that SSC. Perhaps this one's different....

[martyncrew]

how's Kat?

[Paul Conway]

I just picked this up from wes, but it is so close in sound to my CHarger 290, that I am keeping that one instead. I promise not to follow in the footsteps of Wes as far as buying and selling so many, but he was great to deal with and I am sure he can vouch for the guitar and for me.

Check the emporium. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=178135

Man, I just bought a pristine yellow commando, with teardrop. Jumped on it as used Revs do not turn up often in the UK. And now both this and Wes' Wolfman turn up. Curses! I hope they both go to good homes.

[Crazyquilt]

how's Kat?
She's home, happy, and making friends.

http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/images/remote/shmoo&kat.jpg

(Is the picture embed function screwy, because I've suddenly lost the ability to make it work.)

[Ricky_Rockhardo]

Hey guys, anyone care to post a photo of the back side of their Charger or their Warhawk? Interested in the access to the upper register. As always, thanks for your time.

[Fred_C]

Excellent pic CQ!

[Crazyquilt]

Thanks, Fred!

I really want to get downstairs & plug in, but it doesn't seem to be happenings. Good thing I broke down & got an acoustic, which I haven't owned for a few years. I forgot that I actually like playing acoustic, although I'm still an electric player, at heart.

And that SSC is still haunting me.

[Jon Silberman]

Cq, again, congrats & best wishes to ya!

[Mike Duncan]

Congratulations on little one!!!

[Beth]

CQ--she's beautiful. Congratulations!

[Avenger]

CQ - indeed she is beautiful. Congratulations again.

Also, you may already know this and it may be an old wives tale, but I'd be careful with that cat around the new born. We always kept our two cats away from our three boys when they were sleeping. People say that cats have a tendancy to seek warmth and can cause harm to a sleeping infant who can't roll away.

[martyncrew]

There's a TON of HH's over on eBay if anyone is looking...

[Crazyquilt]

CQ - indeed she is beautiful. Congratulations again.

Also, you may already know this and it may be an old wives tale, but I'd be careful with that cat around the new born. We always kept our two cats away from our three boys when they were sleeping. People say that cats have a tendancy to seek warmth and can cause harm to a sleeping infant who can't roll away.

Thanks, Terry.

We are careful in monitoring the feline/infant interactions. If she's asleep, either someone is awake & in the room with her, or she's in her bassinet/crib & the cats have all been shoo'd out. Honestly, I'm less worried about the cats cuddling up to the Kat than I am that one of them would jump up into a crib or seat & squish the unsuspecting human. What we don't want to do is create a situation where either cats or Kat think that the other is somehow frightening or totally off limits, and hence interesting.

On a Rev-related note, I just picked up a set of GFS's Fender-style split 'buckers to try out in my Warhawk. I really dig the guitar, but it hasn't been getting as much play since I got my Hamer Artist. So, I figured I'd try & tweak the sound a bit to enhance the differences. I thought about getting some of the Dream/Mean 90s or HB sized DeArmond-type pickups, but pretty much randomly settled on using the split HBs.

I'm curious to know what they'll sound like -- if they have a smaller bottom than the stock pickups, and I don't find myself using the bass contour much, I may rewire the controls to be Vol/Vol/Tone or perhaps Vol/Tone/Tone.

Of course, all this is predicated on actually getting within fifty feet of an electric guitar, not to mention a soldering iron, things which haven't happened in, oh, weeks. Can't imagine why. ;)

[martyncrew]

Meantime, I picked up a Swart 6V6se - what a cool little amp! Much better OD than the TopHat Cadet IMO and more versatile than the Dr Z Mini (I've owned and sold both over the last 2 years). I replaced the Jensen Mod for a Weber and it hardly made any difference but taking the amp apart and switching the speaker did help me bond with it :) and appreciate the simplicity of the circuit. Really nice take on the old Supros and amazingly rich and big for an SE 8" amp.

Not that you directly recommended it Zak, but thanks for making me aware of Swart Amps.

[Crazyquilt]

Good call, Martyn! I still love my AST -- my absolute #1 amp, and nothing I've played has been able to knock it out of that spot.

Damn. I really, really need to make some noise.

[Joe Naylor]

Congrats CQ... nice work.

Interesting looking amps, those Swartses. I must admit the simplicity of them is intriguing. And you gotta love a guy who's posing with an orange Flatroc on his News page.

[Glenn_K]

Ha ha. That's funny Joe. You're right.

[Schulz]

So apparently I've been buying all of your unwanted Reverends. I've got Fred_C's Moroccan Gold Wolfman and Photomat's Dragonfly Green SSC that was at one time wesb14jr's. please stop selling these things, it's destroying my finances!! I'd post a photo or two but you've already seen them..and probably owned them..ha!

[Rebel-Guitars]

I just found a Bug-Eyed Rocco for 650.00 w/gigbag that I don't need if anyone wants the info. Just PM me.

[Bob Wood]

So apparently I've been buying all of your unwanted Reverends. I've got Fred_C's Moroccan Gold Wolfman and Photomat's Dragonfly Green SSC that was at one time wesb14jr's. please stop selling these things, it's destroying my finances!! I'd post a photo or two but you've already seen them..and probably owned them..ha!

Welcome Shulz! Those were/are two great looking Revs:AOK.

I bought a Wolfman recently and can definitely see another Reverend in my future. I get the sense that the SlingShot is the Definitive Rev. Do you have a favorite yet between the two?

[Schulz]

Well I've only had the SCC for a few hours, but I can see that these P90's (first guitar with P90's) are the bees knees. Alot bigger and thicker sounding then I thought they would be. The Wolfman is a bit more shimmery/clean sounding but still has a nice bite as you know.. I can't say I like one over the other at this point...don't know if I ever will.

[martyncrew]

Seeing this ad and reading the chat on the RDP, really made me realize what we've lost...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i17/martyncrew/reverend_ad1.jpg

[Rebel-Guitars]

How about this one?
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture004.jpg

[portsider]

Seeing this ad and reading the chat on the RDP, really made me realize what we've lost...

Cheer up Martyn, with this fine group of enablers we will always be able to snag more fine Reverend products that we don't need.

[martyncrew]

Cheer up Martyn, with this fine group of enablers we will always be able to snag more fine Reverend products that we don't need.

ain't that the truth!

[Jon Silberman]

It ain't the truth because we do need them!!!

:D

[ford]

I never knew they offered a Slingshot Jr..

That would have been fun...

bford

[Jon Silberman]

I, for one, have never gotten the Jr./Esq. bug. Yeah, I know, there are some tone differences with just one PUP but to me, they're minimal compared to the influences of your hands, technique, amp, cord, and everything else. Meanwhile, you lose the tonal variations the neck PUPs provide which, by contrast, are substantial.

[Crazyquilt]

I never did get a chance to get a Slingshot in Lava Swirl with a Bigsby. :(

And the chance of that showing up on eBay is not high.

[portsider]

It ain't the truth because we do need them!!!

:D
While I feel the same way, to be brutally honest, I have never been able to tell by ear what guitar I was playing on any recording. They all sound like me.
While I am playing, the sound makes a big difference and some days my standard SSC just doesn't "feel" right sound wise. When that happens it affects my playing, and that I can hear on recordings. So for me what I "need" is enough guitars to be able to periodiaclly clear my sonic pallate. That would be around 40 I reckon.:AOK
But I could probably get by with a well setup Squier if I had to.

[Jon Silberman]

portsider, I not only understand what you're saying, I feel personally the same way about everything you've written about now (except the part about not being able to tell the guitars apart on a recording, e.g., I can definitely distinguish my Tele from my PRS. :AOK

[martyncrew]

Well, I just cracked and did the BIN thing on that 4x10 cab on eBay. It has the original 1030s. Very interested to hear how it will sound with my Bassman and Epi Valve Jnr. Assuming it sounds as good as I hope, my Alltone 2x10 will be heading to the Emporium before too long.

I seriously thinking about retolexing my Epi in Cowboy Tolex to match the 4x10 - how cool would that be?

[martyncrew]

Cheer up Martyn, with this fine group of enablers we will always be able to snag more fine Reverend products that we don't need.

Are we caught up in a TGP version of "Lost"? Doomed to an eternally pointless existence trading Reverend gear back and forth between the dozen or so Reverend diehards? :messedup

[portsider]

Are we caught up in a TGP version of "Lost"? Doomed to an eternally pointless existence trading Reverend gear back and forth between the dozen or so Reverend diehards? :messedup
Sadly enough, that sounds like a pretty cool existence to me... roll guitar up hill, watch it roll down to the bottom. walk back down and roll it up again.

[trinian1]

Umm . . . well, we newbies would appreciate the diehards giving us a crack at some of these guitars, too! I'm still hunting for a Rocco (there are a couple on Ebay right now--I'm bidding on one of them, and if I don't win I'm hoping that no one else here snaps up Wes's lead. Fingers crossed!). And there seem to be a lot of people on this board (TGP in general, that is) for whom money is no object! When I finally buy a Reverend it will be one of only 4 guitars I own! Argh!

Okay, perhaps a bit of envy talking there. But don't forget to let a few new people into the circle now and again. There are, after all, now a limited number of American Revs out there. We all need to learn to share--like these guys!:BEER

[Mudder]

I was just taking a hard look at the yellow rocco on ebay a few minutes ago. Great price as of right now. Good thing I have no money...

There's a pretty neat Avenger and a Commando too.

[portsider]

I was just taking a hard look at the yellow rocco on ebay a few minutes ago. Great price as of right now. Good thing I have no money...

There's a pretty neat Avenger and a Commando too. That is a great price so far. A lot of Roccos seem to go pretty cheap. They are probably the most versatile Reverend, but they don't have the "cool" pickups like P90s, Lipsticks or Revtrons.
I don't see the commando. The Avenger GT is mine.

[martyncrew]

trinian1 - FWIW I'd pursue Wes' lead on the Bugeye Rocco. They are unspeakably cool looking and sounding guitars

[Rebel-Guitars]

trinian1 - FWIW I'd pursue Wes' lead on the Bugeye Rocco. They are unspeakably cool looking and sounding guitars

The Bugeye Rocco is metal front only with a gigbag. Maybe I should go buy it!

Anyone want to buy a Reverend 4x10 cheap? ;) :roll :D Just kidding Martyn. I'm actually thinking about buying the light brown grillcloth for my head and cab.

[Crazyquilt]

The Avenger GT is mine.

It's a good thing that's not an Avenger TL, or we might have to have some kind of duel. :D

[portsider]

It's a good thing that's not an Avenger TL, or we might have to have some kind of duel. :D Actually, I meant I am the seller. Great guitar, it is just not safe to put a whammy in my hand.
So much for that yellow Rocco going cheap! :jo

[trinian1]

Yeah, tell me about it. I got sniped. Hope no one's bought that other Rocco, or I start the whole searching process over again. Ugh.

[Jon Silberman]

Why aren't you also sniping? Any other approach only gives information to the enemy that you needn't surrender until seconds before the auction's end.

[Falstaff]

I have a question. Have any of the Reverend fans on here switched from a Gibson P90 guitar to a P90 Reverend? I need a P90 guitar (well...you know what I mean) and find myself more comfortable with Fender-style guitars these days. A Reverend with P90s might work for me and give me some extra cash as well.
Thanks. :)

[trinian1]

Well, this is true, but I had a limited number of . . . umm . . . bullets (how far do we take this metaphor? I mean dollars, clams, moolah.). And I haven't ebayed for a couple of years now, so I'm pretty rusty (plus I've only ebayed around 20 times or so overall, so I never had that much practice to begin with). Besides, I thought that's what proxy bidding is for. I'm guessing I'm fooling myself with that idea, huh. Educate me in the ways of Ebay, Jon Silberman! No, seriously. 'Cause the way I figure, I had maxed out my bid, and even if I had sniped, there's a good chance I still wouldn't have won (especially on my crappy dial up connection). <sigh> It's okay--I'll be ordained one of these days.

[portsider]

Well, this is true, but I had a limited number of . . . umm . . . bullets (how far do we take this metaphor? I mean dollars, clams, moolah.). And I haven't ebayed for a couple of years now, so I'm pretty rusty (plus I've only ebayed around 20 times or so overall, so I never had that much practice to begin with). Besides, I thought that's what proxy bidding is for. I'm guessing I'm fooling myself with that idea, huh. Educate me in the ways of Ebay, Jon Silberman! No, seriously. 'Cause the way I figure, I had maxed out my bid, and even if I had sniped, there's a good chance I still wouldn't have won (especially on my crappy dial up connection). <sigh> It's okay--I'll be ordained one of these days.
What sniping does it eliminate the chance you'll get bib up to your max. Lets say you want a Rocco and your top price is $550. You bid $550 two days before the auction ends and get in at a high bid of $400. Now there are two days for your bid to be inched up to its max. possibly by a stooge bidder working with the seller. If you are outbid with a day to think about it you may get into a bidding war and spend more than you wanted.
If you snipe, you will still get outbid by someone who had a higher top dollar, but there will be only a few seconds to get in a higher bid and you won't have enough time to go over budget.
The tactic is to decide what your top dollar is and bid it in the last seconds. Be sure it is your top dollar, and be willing to let the guitar go if it is one cent more. The easiest way to snipe is to use an automatic bidding service like Esnipe (thanks to Jon for that tip).
Another trick is to check for Reverend listings just before you go to bed. You will sometimes find a good Buy It Now price.

[Jon Silberman]

Educate me in the ways of Ebay, Jon Silberman! No, seriously.

Your wish is my command, Weedhopper! All you need to know is here:

www.esnipe.com (http://www.esnipe.com)

This is the service I use. Until I started using it, I, too, was out-sniped. Now I'm the one snatching the gear you're bidding on at the last minute (figuratively speaking, of course :) ).

[Jon Silberman]

If anyone with a Spy would like to keep his axe but transform it into a Rocco by trading me your Spy pickguard and PUPs for my Rocco pickguard and PUPs (your choice of gold or mother-of-toilet-seat [pearl] NOS Reverend pickguard), drop me a PM.

[BarryJ]

Say Jon, did you know that Reverend still has some Spy pickguards for sale? Look here:

http://http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitar_bass_parts.html

Sadly, no Spy pickups, though....

[portsider]

If anyone with a Spy would like to keep his axe but transform it into a Rocco by trading me your Spy pickguard and PUPs for my Rocco pickguard and PUPs (your choice of gold or mother-of-toilet-seat [pearl] NOS Reverend pickguard), drop me a PM. You have come to the Spy side, eh? ;)

[trinian1]

Well, I took the plunge and bought a Bugeye top Rocco. Thanks, Wes, for the tip. I should get it late next week somtime. I'll take some pics and sound off on it when it comes in. The bugeye looks pretty cool in pictures--I hope I'll dig it in person. I was really excited about the yellow one I didn't get (I have a red strat and an orange ASAT, so it would have completed my summer/autumn color collection), but I figure I can just spray paint this one yellow if I don't like it.

I'm kidding, of course.

I appreciate the advice on the Ebaying. Next time maybe I'll just pay one of you to buy a guitar for me!:)

[Crazyquilt]

Sorry, Portsider. I'm a bit daft lately; sleep dep'll do that.

I like eSnipe as well, when it's something I really really want.

You will sometimes find a good Buy It Now price.

Grr. Worst is when you find a great BIN right AFTER someone else snags it. I'm still nursing a Gretsch yen, and I saw the model I wanted (Tenny Special) at the unholy proce of $850. Between the time I did the search, and clicked on the link, someone snatched it! Even though I really shouldn't be buying guitars right now (if only because I'm not playing much at all) at that price, I would have been a fool not to take it.

[Rebel-Guitars]

Well, I took the plunge and bought a Bugeye top Rocco. Thanks, Wes, for the tip. I should get it late next week somtime. I'll take some pics and sound off on it when it comes in. The bugeye looks pretty cool in pictures--I hope I'll dig it in person. I was really excited about the yellow one I didn't get (I have a red strat and an orange ASAT, so it would have completed my summer/autumn color collection), but I figure I can just spray paint this one yellow if I don't like it.

I'm kidding, of course.

I appreciate the advice on the Ebaying. Next time maybe I'll just pay one of you to buy a guitar for me!:)

Glad you got it! If you don't like it, let me know and I'll find you a solid color Rocco. Post some pics when you get it.

[Jon Silberman]

You have come to the Spy side, eh? ;)

I wouldn't buy a whole Spy guitar but as long as I'm sure I'll never restore the stock HBs to my Rocco (which I am), yes, it would be nice to have a Spy pickguard and PUPs. ;)

[Falstaff]

I have a question. Have any of the Reverend fans on here switched from a Gibson P90 guitar to a P90 Reverend? I need a P90 guitar (well...you know what I mean) and find myself more comfortable with Fender-style guitars these days. A Reverend with P90s might work for me and give me some extra cash as well.
Thanks. :)

Help. :jo

[Tycho]

I wouldn't buy a whole Spy guitar but as long as I'm sure I'll never restore the stock HBs to my Rocco (which I am), yes, it would be nice to have a Spy pickguard and PUPs. ;)

My Spy is one of my favourite guitars.

Weren't the PUPs just regular Kent Armstrong lipstick tubes?

[Jon Silberman]

I'm a huge fan of Rev's P90 guitars but a caveat: I do not care for Gibsons, I don't like the scale length, feel, or thicker/middier tone.

I don't know from imports so these comments apply to the US Revs: the "smuggler's rout" interiors combined with the Fender-style 25 1/2" scale length gives a snappy, punchy tone that to me is P90's with a hint of Strat. That's what I prefer so give me a USA Rev w/P90s!

[martyncrew]

Help. :jo

A P90 Reverend is NOT a replacement for a LP Jr type guitar. I have (and love both) but there's very little overlap bwtn the two. Not only are the necks different scales and profiles but the sound of a P90 in a solid mahogany body is very different from P90s in a phenolic body (think big fat Strat) or in a chambered body like the import Revs.

IMO, the closest to a Gibson type P90 sound would be the Charger 290 (which I've played) or for the SG Jr type P90 sound a Warhawk.

Slingshots come up almost every week on eBay and, in many people's opinion, are the definitive Reverend. Definitely worth trying one out.

[Falstaff]

Thank you, gentlemen!

[Glenn_K]

Going back and forth between Reverend and Gibson, I've become more and more conscious of that hollow, nasaly, and loose sound (for lack of a better description) that the US Revs have vs a solid Mahagony guitar. I'm curious to do a comparison side by side of Revs with like pickups but solid bodies such as Roccos vs Warhawk HB. Some of the import Revs are chambered so they might carry a a little of that nasaly sound over, but I would be willing to bet to a much smaller degree. A comparison of a Slingshot Custom vs Jetstream 390 would be an example.

[Jon Silberman]

Going back and forth between Reverend and Gibson, I've become more and more conscious of that hollow, nasaly, and loose sound (for lack of a better description) that the US Revs have vs a solid Mahagony guitar.
It would not occur to me, as someone who prefers the airy, open, defined tones on the USA Revs, to denigrate the Gibsons I don't prefer as flabby, sloppy, and oleaginous but I guess the beauty of the internet is we each get to choose the adjectives we prefer. But as for "loose" sound, honestly, I don't have a clue as to what you're hearing or why. USA Revs are a lot of things and admittedly not each one is attractive to every person but "loose?" The reality is exactly the opposite.

Gibson tone is arguably loose. USA Rev tone, in contrast, is tighter than a virgin on her wedding night. :roll

[Glenn_K]

Tone is so hard to describe. Loose being the opposite of tight, where tight to me is sharp attack and focused. Airy and open are good descriptions of the US Reverends, but I would put airy and open with loose and not tight unless tight means consistent. I think we're talking about the same thing, just words are coming out different. There is a rounder sound, spread out over a wider tonal area. The characteristic US Rev tone is great. Just comparing.

[Jon Silberman]

You're right, Glenn, tone is hard to describe and they're just words. To me, FWIW, "nasally" and "loose" are about the worst adjectives I personally could find to apply to a guitar, ones that would not occur to me as befitting a USA Rev so that explains my surprise. But again, you're right - tone is hard to describe.

P.S. Having thought about this further, I actually think we're not talking about the same thing re: "loose" versus "tight" but that's all right. :)

[Glenn_K]

Jon, I agree... nasaly is not a pleasant adjective and that wasn't a good word. But you know I love the sound (and feel) because you don't see any of my collection on ebay! I certainly don't mean to denegrate my favorite guitars.

[Jon Silberman]

Gotcha! :)

P.S. As far as being loose goes: I may not be Toulouse Lautrec but I ain't too loose to truck. :D

[Ricky_Rockhardo]

Looks as though a few KM Stage Kings are on the evilbay this week.

[Glenn_K]

out of curiosity.. anyone know how easy it is to throw a Les Trem on a guitar? For instance a Stage King without one?

[dhdfoster]

I haven't put on a Les Trem, but I'm going to, so I've read the instructions carefully. It looks EXTREMELY easy. In fact, I'm lazy, so I'm going to have my dog do it.

It looks like there's a red Charger 290 on the Bay. In all seriousnesss, even you hardcore U.S.A. Rev fans would be thrilled with this guitar at the buy it now price. In fact, I think almost any player would be thrilled with that guitar at twice the price.

Over the years, I've owned Teles, Strats, a Slingshot, a PRS(yuck), a few Gretsches, a few G&Ls and a few Guilds. Besides my old Guilds, the Charger is the one that I instantly felt at home on.

It's sort of like a little, non-archtop, Gretsch Jet Firebird w/ P90s and the most comfortable Strat neck you've ever touched.

[Glenn_K]

that's part of my thinking... seems like the Stage Kings are starting to show up on ebay but without the Les Trems. If it's easy enough to stick on, then that would be nice.

[Avenger]

Glenn,

Since I'd consider you to be somewhat of a trem connoisseur, I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the les trem.

[Jon Silberman]

Just thought I'd mention, I'd never looked carefully at the candy in the case pocket for my NAMM anniversary SSC until last night. There's some cool stuff in there specific to this guitar!

[Rebel-Guitars]

Just thought I'd mention, I'd never looked carefully at the candy in the case pocket for my NAMM anniversary SSC until last night. There's some cool stuff in there specific to this guitar!

Come on Jon, Let's see it!

[Crazyquilt]

Just thought I'd mention, I'd never looked carefully at the candy in the case pocket for my NAMM anniversary SSC until last night. There's some cool stuff in there specific to this guitar!

Yeah, Jon -- I'm calling foul -- five fret penalty for failure to illustrate. Give it up!

[Rebel-Guitars]

Anybody know anything about this Rocco?
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/revv1.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/revv3.jpg

[martyncrew]

Wes - ask Joe. I have seen one before and I think (not sure) it was a limited run done for a company (can't remember who) as promotional items.

[trinian1]

Whoa! Is that a gold pickguard on a bugeye Spy? That looks amazing! I might have to look into that combo when I get mine. And the Rocco is very cool, too. Yours, Wes, or did you find a pic somewhere of it?

[Beth]

Um I think that Rocco is hideous. Not the info you were looking for Wes just had to say it.

[john1056]

I'm wondering what the extra knob(s) are on the Spy. I can't tell if the one near the pickup is just a hole cover. I like the Rocco :)

[trinian1]

It looks like the guard was put on aftermarket--it's a four hole pg like the Rocco guards with holes for volume, tone, and the two coil tap mini-toggles. The volume knob has been moved to where one of the mini-toggles would normally be. But I definitely can't tell whether there are actually knobs in the other holes or . . . yeah, I agree, what is going on there?

By the way, when I get this Rocco I've purchased, am I going to want to immediately go out a buy a new cable? All I have are straight ones, and I'm guessing it will drive me nuts plugged into the front like that.

[Jon Silberman]

Come on Jon, Let's see it!

I'll try to find the time to take and post some pics of the materials.

[Jon Silberman]

Um I think that Rocco is hideous. Not the info you were looking for Wes just had to say it.

Yeah, but it's so hideous it's cool (kinda like ostrich hide :p ). :)

[Mike Duncan]

As I recall, that funky finish was a sample from Armstrong or one of the other flooring giants that Joe was sampling for some outlandishly cool variations.

I dig it.

[HeyMrTeleMan]

Man, this Subject:line's been sitting in my, um, Subject:line inventory forever, waiting for today...

BLP

Yeah, but it's so hideous it's cool (kinda like ostrich hide :p ). :)

[Rebel-Guitars]

It looks like the guard was put on aftermarket--it's a four hole pg like the Rocco guards with holes for volume, tone, and the two coil tap mini-toggles. The volume knob has been moved to where one of the mini-toggles would normally be. But I definitely can't tell whether there are actually knobs in the other holes or . . . yeah, I agree, what is going on there?

By the way, when I get this Rocco I've purchased, am I going to want to immediately go out a buy a new cable? All I have are straight ones, and I'm guessing it will drive me nuts plugged into the front like that.

I think the extra holes have just been plugged, If I wind up with it, I'd want to change back to a silver guard.

[BarryJ]

That Rocco is kind of growing on me, actually.

I was not a huge fan of the fake wood finishes, as they kind of flew in the face of what I thought Reverends stood for style-wise (as in, "they're supposed to be plastic, dammit"...........:D )

But this one is just 60's kitchen counter enough to appeal to me.

[Jon Silberman]

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/2949318/107114740.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/2949318/198967724.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/2949318/198967738.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/2949318/198967735.jpg

[skizziks]

Ok
I know you guys have been all through this in the past, but I'm new and still havin' a hard time getting around this site. But I have a Hellhound 40/60 combo that gets really broken up at high volumes. I have read some posts that some have switched from the All-Tone to Jensen but with some tonal change. I really like the Tru-Tones so I would like to replace them with something with similar tone. Any recommendations? It is one of the originals sn#0255 with no other modifications, any other tips would also come in handy
thanks

[tdu]

Just got my Reverend Goblin in the mail a few days ago (bought on another forums). What a great little amp. I can't believe how huge it sounds for such a small amp.

I haven't had a chance to really go through the paces with it, but so far I gotta say it's just what all the reviews etc., said it would be. People are always looking for one amp that can 'do it all' and it appears to me that these were the amps that can do that. It's amazing the different tones you get with the Schizo switch.

I only wish I had bought the Kingsnake I saw for sale too now!

[Jon Silberman]

Ok
I know you guys have been all through this in the past, but I'm new and still havin' a hard time getting around this site. But I have a Hellhound 40/60 combo that gets really broken up at high volumes. I have read some posts that some have switched from the All-Tone to Jensen but with some tonal change. I really like the Tru-Tones so I would like to replace them with something with similar tone. Any recommendations? It is one of the originals sn#0255 with no other modifications, any other tips would also come in handy
thanks
Can you be more specific as to what you mean by "really broken up at high volumes?" Exactly what do you mean by both "really broken up" and "at high volumes?"

The reason I ask is this is an all-tube-signal-path amp. It's supposed to break up at high volumes. It would be broken if it didn't.

I think it's important for you to be clear with yourself as to what you really want from your 'Hound because that will make the difference as to whether you should sell it and buy what you really want -or- mod/upgrade it to get it where you want it to be.

If the latter, here are 4 suggestions, in addition to the speaker swap idea you already know about, all of which I employ myself on my 'Hound quite successfully:

1. Turn down the bass considerably at higher volumes. I mean way down (this is, of course, just basic common sense for any Fender-style amp). You may even want to zero it out. You may not like how that sounds when you're wanking alone in your bedroom (or wherever it is you do that - I use a spare bedroom converted into my music room) but you won't miss it in an ensemble setting with bass and drums unless you're playing metal or similar music (in which case, re-read the suggestion above about selling and replacing the amp).

2. Replace the stock V1 12AX7 with a 12AT7 (increases headroom).

3. Run the amp with both the stock 12" speaker and a second 12" extension speaker. My 1X12 ext. cab for this amp uses an Eminence Red Fang. Besides giving you a some more volume and punch, doing this will somewhat restore the bass you lost by turning it down on the preamp both because you get more bass from 2X12's than one plus you'll be running the cabs in parallel off the 4-ohm output jack and tapping a transformer in that manner normally adds bass.

4. This last suggestion is absolutely critical, in my view. Consider this statement in the now-discontinued Reverend amplifier FAQ:

- Modified pre-amp gain structure. The Kingsnake has less pre-amp gain in the low frequencies. This means the low notes distort less. This contributes to more clean headroom, tighter low end and smoother overdrive at medium to high volume.
Do this to your 'Hound if you decide to keep it. I don't remember now which component to change or to what. To find that out, you can call or email Reverend directly and ask or, if you know what you're doing electronically, you can buy (direct from Reverend) a copy of the Kingsnake schematic and figure it out by comparison to the guts of your 'Hound chassis.

Good luck and be sure to return and report back on your ultimate decision and how you like the results.

[Rebel-Guitars]

Thanks for posting the pics of your NAMM Show case candy Jon. I'm still a NAMM member and go to conventions, but mainly for fun. I remember a lot of different companies having limited run instruments with the 100th badges. Very cool.

[Joe Naylor]

Anybody know anything about this Rocco?
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/revv1.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/revv3.jpg

The one on the left was originally a Spy. We built about 12 Spys in that finish for the Formica Corp. They gave them to top sales reps as awards one year. It originally had a gold pickguard. We still have some of those original gold pickguards, would be worth restoring due to the extreme rareness.

The Rocco probably had a black or silver pickguard, both of which still have available. It might have been custom ordered with the gold pg now residing on the Spy.

[Rebel-Guitars]

Thanks for the info Joe! If I can get them both, I"ll order the two pickguards and get them back right.

[portsider]

Thanks for the info Joe! If I can get them both, I"ll order the two pickguards and get them back right.
I hope the seller knocks off some $ for the missing strings.;)

[Jon Silberman]

Joe, am I correct we'll miss you at the upcoming Philly show?

[john1056]

I hope the seller knocks off some $ for the missing strings.;)

Seriously though, I remember reading that you can damage a neck by leaving strings off it for too long, unless the tress rod is loosened. Anyone know if this is true? Why would you have a couple guitars laying around without strings anyway?

[portsider]

Seriously though, I remember reading that you can damage a neck by leaving strings off it for too long, unless the tress rod is loosened. Anyone know if this is true? Why would you have a couple guitars laying around without strings anyway?
It could happen, but I don't think it is a major concern. Especially with an electric strung with 9's or 10's. That is funny to photo them stringless like that.

[john1056]

It could happen, but I don't think it is a major concern. Especially with an electric strung with 9's or 10's. That is funny to photo them stringless like that.

It’s almost obscene!

[martyncrew]

...and the abuse to that Spy pg!

[Crazyquilt]

Thanks, Jon! :AOK

[Jon Silberman]

Yeah, Jon -- I'm calling foul -- five fret penalty for failure to illustrate. Give it up!
My pleasure - it's the least I could do. ;) :D

[Joe Naylor]

Joe, am I correct we'll miss you at the upcoming Philly show?

Philly is looking doubtful. Everything we have is sold, so there's really nothing to bring.

RE: stringless necks -
You do NOT want the truss rod completely loose, this can cause big problems. If the neck will remain stringless for more than a couple weeks, you want very light clockwise pressure on the nut, only about a 1/4 turn.

[martyncrew]

Joe - not even a CK lying around? Guess I need to try that gold CK290 at Keith Holland Guitars again...

[skizziks]

Hey Jon
Thanks for the info, I guess I didn't think much about my choise of words but a better choice may have been farted out! I will be able to experiment tomorrow. And as far as an additional cab is concerned...does anybody have or know where I can get a 112 bottom with the origianal cowboy tolex?

Thanks ya'll

[Joe Naylor]

Joe - not even a CK lying around? Guess I need to try that gold CK290 at Keith Holland Guitars again...

Sorry Martyn, just that Warhawk on the In-Stock page... but I have feeling that's not quite your style.

Go give that CK a whirl. Tonally, it's really the farthest thing we do from your US guitars, it might fill a niche for you.

[Jon Silberman]

Philly is looking doubtful. Everything we have is sold, so there's really nothing to bring.

Wow, that's great, Joe! Congrats. I'm sorry the result is you won't be there this year but I'm pleased the new axes are selling so well.

[trinian1]

Well, I am finally a part of the clergy. I got my collar today (nice how the white rims on the American Revs are very priestly collarish)--as I pulled it out of the box, bubble wrap, and gig bag, I have to admit, I was a bit apprehensive. And on first look, I thought, "Gee, that's definitely a metal top." The pictures I've seen don't quite capture how it looks close up--more mirror like than I thought (I was picturing a more black metallic kinda thing, for some reason). But I restrung it, checked the neck relief and the intonation (both of which were good), plugged it in, and was super impressed. Sounds even better than the one I played before. Coil taps are oh so functional--on my old guitar it sounded wimpy when I tapped the coils, but these sound great.

And, as it turns out, from more than 2 feet away, the guitar looks pretty cool (yeah, I checked myself out in the mirror with it--come on, we all do it from time to time). It'll take a little more getting used to it, but I think it's a keeper! Thanks again to Wes for the tip. Ironically, the day after I bought this I was offered a "second chance" on the yellow one I got sniped out of on eBay. This one was cheaper and I think I'll end up liking it better anyhow.

I do have one question--did Reverend ever use locking Grovers? 'Cause that's what are currently installed. I was thinking Joe used Schallers, but I'm no expert. Some of you, however, are. What's the word?

[Rebel-Guitars]

100.00 says that Second Chance offer was a scam. The winner (who has 100% feedback) also won my Rev Wolfman. Its really getting bad, I had a Second Chance offered to me on a guitar I was STILL bidding on!

Glad you dig the new guitar!!!