Reverend Gallery [Archive] - Page 13

kerc

01-06-2007, 09:48 AM

My Reverend Warhawk HB.

8)
http://users.bivapr.net/jkercado/warhawk/S5030284.jpg
http://users.bivapr.net/jkercado/warhawk/S5030286.jpg
http://users.bivapr.net/jkercado/warhawk/S5030287.jpg
http://users.bivapr.net/jkercado/warhawk/S5030289.jpg
http://users.bivapr.net/jkercado/warhawk/S5030291.jpg
http://users.bivapr.net/jkercado/warhawk/S5030292.jpg

SInce I got it, I've been paying it exclusively. My other axes have been neglected...

:O

Jon Silberman

01-06-2007, 11:57 AM

Excellent and welcome to TGP and the Rev Gallery! :)

Crazyquilt

01-06-2007, 01:32 PM

Excellent taste, Kerc. I've got its twin. Fun axe!

I have to admit I'm tempted to try some other pickups, just for sh!ts & giggles, since, if I grab a HB guitar, it's my Hamer and the poor Warhawk gets neglected. Which is a shame -- it's a darned cool instrument. Just like the sound of the Hamer better. Playability-wise, however, they're equally comfortable for me. Pretty high praise, considering the cost differential.

Mike Duncan

01-06-2007, 07:52 PM

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/219939150.jpg
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/219939120.jpg
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/219939067.jpg
Phil Jacoby is fantastic! The Silberman mod is complete and the SSC is now SUPER playable. The thing looks flippin' sweet and plays like butta!! I'm so diggin' the silver guard!

Thank you Jon for the idea and Phil for the hard work!:D

Rebel-Guitars

01-06-2007, 08:42 PM

Mike,
The silver guard looks awesome!! I want that guitar!!

Jon Silberman

01-07-2007, 06:59 AM

A mod developed by little ole me specifically for SSCs has become The Silberman Mod ... sigh ... it don't get much better than this! :D

Mike, when do I get a chance to hear it?!

P.S. Mike, technically, what you got is The Silberman Mod with Custom Duncan Minitoggle Placement (contrast mine with yours). ;)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/2949318/107114784.jpg

Jon Silberman

01-07-2007, 07:04 AM

Guys, I go to Phil Jacoby www.philtone.com (http://www.philtone.com) exclusively for all my Rev and other guitar mods. In fact, by now, he probably knows Rev guts almost as well as Joe!

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/14573081/218873074.jpg

Mike Duncan

01-07-2007, 12:31 PM

Phil developed that little work-around with the switch placement - pretty cool! Jon, I thought you'd enjoy the up close switch pic. I'm so happy with this guitar.

Wes, I'm glad you're diggin' the silver guard. I was thinking gold at first, but I thought silver went nicely with the silver hot rod flames.

Avenger

01-07-2007, 07:28 PM

Check out the Reverend Flatrock on the demo for the new Menatone/Fargen VOS pedal (clip 2):dude

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/itempages/VOSpedal.html

J Purcell

01-08-2007, 06:32 AM

After checking in on this thread every couple of weeks I finally broke down and bought my first Reverend guitar. Telecopter's Rev Slingshot.

The money order is going out today so I should have it by the begining of next week.

Never played or even held one so I'm hoping it lives up to all the hype.
It may never replace my Teles but you can't go wrong with P-90's.

Here's a pic from Bill's ad in the Emporium.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n176/john_57/Rev3.jpg

BluesWannabe

01-08-2007, 06:41 AM

Never played or even held one so I'm hoping it lives up to all the hype.
It may never replace my Teles but you can't go wrong with P-90's.

I don't know what it is about Reverend... I've played tons of gear but there is something about the Reverend gear that just pulls you in...

I ordered a P90 SS last year about this time, loved it... and now I have a blue aluminum Rocco, a Goblin and a Kingsnake...

I hope you like yours...

lfio710

01-08-2007, 10:26 AM

I've been looking for a Rick Vito model for awhile. Anybody know of any for sale, or want to part with theirs?
Thanks!

Rebel-Guitars

01-09-2007, 04:56 PM

Check this out, anybody seen a route like this on a Reverend? I bought it as a one-off, but they didn't mention the sides. Its very cool. Its the only one done in this faux wood finish too.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture035.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture033.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture036.jpg

martyncrew

01-09-2007, 05:51 PM

Hmm, that IS interesting. Never seen (or heard of) that before.

Nice to see Wes' one-man campaign to reset Reverend pricing is in full swing! Maybe a couple of my pieces will come out to play???

Mike Duncan

01-09-2007, 06:47 PM

Pretty cool. Though, I would venture to say that of the 5000 or so US made models, there are many interesting "one-off" variations. That one IS cool.

For instance, all three of mine are weirdo models that no one else could own.

Not taking away from Wes' guitar, I think Joe and the gang had fun.

BluesWannabe

01-09-2007, 07:29 PM

Check this out, anybody seen a route like this on a Reverend? I bought it as a one-off, but they didn't mention the sides. Its very cool. Its the only one done in this faux wood finish too.

Nah, it's not the only one done in this faux wood finish - why, there's one up on eBay right now that is the same!

;)

john1056

01-10-2007, 03:00 PM

Those are sweet guitars, I love that finish with the Maple neck. The price is pretty high though. I wonder if it will get any bids...

martyncrew

01-10-2007, 06:43 PM

Pretty cool. Though, I would venture to say that of the 5000 or so US made models, there are many interesting "one-off" variations.

Maybe Joe can give us the definitive number but my guess is that US production was closer to 4,000??? Does anyone know?

BluesWannabe

01-10-2007, 06:47 PM

Maybe Joe can give us the definitive number but my guess is that US production was closer to 4,000??? Does anyone know?

Well, I ordered a new Slingshot from Reverend in late December 2005/early January 2006, and the serial number is in the 4700's ... and this was before the "Retro Pro" line, so maybe the 5000 is closer...

malvivant

01-10-2007, 08:28 PM

Does anyone know if the Stage King serial numbers picked up where the U.S.A. Reverends left off?

martyncrew

01-10-2007, 10:54 PM

Does anyone know if the Stage King serial numbers picked up where the U.S.A. Reverends left off?

Looks like it to me..my CK290 is #05349

malvivant

01-10-2007, 11:44 PM

Looks like it to me..my CK290 is #05349

My Charger is #4789. If you're right about the serial numbers continuing, the number of USA Revs is somewhere in the 4700's. There's a Wolfman on ebay that's #4714. Anbody got a higher number than that?

portsider

01-11-2007, 05:00 AM

Just got my Reverend Goblin in the mail a few days ago (bought on another forums). What a great little amp. I can't believe how huge it sounds for such a small amp.

I haven't had a chance to really go through the paces with it, but so far I gotta say it's just what all the reviews etc., said it would be. People are always looking for one amp that can 'do it all' and it appears to me that these were the amps that can do that. It's amazing the different tones you get with the Schizo switch.

I only wish I had bought the Kingsnake I saw for sale too now!
This is a long overdue response, but you'd be surprised what that amp will do through a 2x12 cab at the 15 watt setting. You should get plenty of clean volume to keep up with a drummer.

propellr

01-11-2007, 07:12 AM

That one-off looks nice. I tell you, if somebody digs that guitar, they'll pay what he's asking. Maybe I'm just speaking for myself. I know I'd pay within reason for one that I knew would scratch the itch.

Joe Naylor

01-11-2007, 09:58 AM

The last USA guitar is #4942, built May 10, 2006, which I own.

The Stage King numbers do pick-up form there.

Crazyquilt

01-11-2007, 10:51 AM

The last USA guitar is #4942, built May 10, 2006, which I own.

As it should be! :dude

Not, you know, that I think most of us would argue with some new USA Revs. :D

Still, I think the SKs are comporting themselves admirably.

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 11:25 AM

How silly of me...I could have answered that question too!!!

Duh.

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/168458660.jpg

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 11:26 AM

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/168451865.jpg

I just like posting my son's rug/Matchbox town.....:AOK

martyncrew

01-11-2007, 11:37 AM

...that is a very cool Rocco!

Phillip_H

01-11-2007, 12:03 PM

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL664/3909625/8084735/168451865.jpg

I just like posting my son's rug/Matchbox town.....:AOK

Dude, I have that rug in my kid's room!

HeyMrTeleMan

01-11-2007, 12:28 PM

The last USA guitar is #4942, built May 10, 2006, which I own.

The Stage King numbers do pick-up form there.

Hmmmm....
My Charger HBFM is numbered 4967. So according to my math, I have the 25th Stage King guitar, right?

So who is this ZSG person that signed it?

Cool...:cool:

BLP

martyncrew

01-11-2007, 12:51 PM

So who is this ZSG person that signed it?

Scroll down to meet Zack...

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/the_company/personnel.html

Avenger

01-11-2007, 01:31 PM

Hmmmm....
My Charger HBFM is numbered 4967. So according to my math, I have the 25th Stage King guitar, right?...
BLP

For a while Stage King and USA Reverends were made at the same time so there is overlap with the numbers. It might be a little difficult to figure out what number Stage King guitar yours is. You'd have to know how many Stage Kings were produced prior to the last USA Rev.

malvivant

01-11-2007, 02:50 PM

For a while Stage King and USA Reverends were made at the same time so there is overlap with the numbers. It might be a little difficult to figure out what number Stage King guitar yours is. You'd have to know how many Stage Kings were produced prior to the last USA Rev.

Well, that explains the #4789 Charger. It also puts the actual number of USA Revs back into question....

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 03:50 PM

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/hi-res/manta_ray_290_malp_lg.jpg

Interesting.

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 03:51 PM

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/hi-res/volcano_black_lg.jpg

Neat stuff.

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 03:52 PM

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/buckshot_3tone_lg.jpg

I dig this.

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 03:53 PM

Oh dear, this may be the downfall....

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/jetstream_hb_slv_sparkle_lg.jpg

HeyMrTeleMan

01-11-2007, 04:04 PM

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/hi-res/manta_ray_290_malp_lg.jpg

Interesting.

That one does if for me. Where can I get one? :drool
Is it a proto? First production (say yes!) or am I dreaming?

Thanks!

BLP

Mike Duncan

01-11-2007, 04:05 PM

Head over to Reverend's site...lot's of new toys!

malvivant

01-11-2007, 04:19 PM

Holy Cats! I keep swearing I've bought my last guitar, and then something like this happens. That Buckshot...I know I'm not gonna sleep right till I've played one! Did anyone else notice that the headstock typeface has changed? Wonder why?

Crazyquilt

01-11-2007, 04:21 PM

http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/buckshot_3tone_lg.jpg

I dig this.

Me too. I'm surprised it doesn't use the same pickguard as the Gil Parris sig guitar. That'd be sweet. So would a wraparound bridge. Of course, I'm saying all of this just to kill the GAS pains.

Actually, quite a lot of supremely diggable fiddles. If I were ever going to get a V, I know where to get it from, now. But the Buckshot & the SG-alike are more interesting. Oh, and the silver sparkle Jetstream. Just, you know, because not only is it a cool guitar, but Reverend is a cool company, whom I wish many more anniversaries.

martyncrew

01-11-2007, 04:50 PM

Wow, does Joe's brain never stop??? IMHO, the "set necks" are all pretty derivative but there's clearly a big market for that type of thing. The Buckshot is long overdue - after we've speculated for years on what a Reverend Tele would look like, now we know. Looks cool especially with the maple cap neck.

I also like the idea of the JS Anniversary model but I'll just settle for putting candles on my May 97 Avenger GT :messedup.

Rebel-Guitars

01-11-2007, 05:01 PM

New guitars! Hopefully I can get my hands on these at the NAMM show next week. And also grab a couple of the new catalogs!
:drool

Avenger

01-11-2007, 05:10 PM

Wow. What an array of great looking guitars. I like the look of the Manta Ray HB in gold, but that anniversary guitar and the Buckshot look great too. And you can add a trem to any one of them, even the V.

Congratulations, Joe. These are going to be a hit.

portsider

01-11-2007, 05:21 PM

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/buckshot_cream_jg.jpg
I had to put this one up. Love the maple neck!

malvivant

01-11-2007, 05:23 PM

IMHO, the "set necks" are all pretty derivative but there's clearly a big market for that type of thing.

Yeah, I was a little surprised by them as well. One of the things I like about Reverends is their instant recognizability (I mean, even before you start playing). But it's probably a good move on Joe's part. While I was waiting for the new line to show up on Rev's page, I was thumbing through some dopey guitar mega-chain catalog that showed up (unasked for) in my mailbox. It's filled with variations on roughly the same themes, so I guess there's a pretty strong demand for them. Still, I'm guessing that Reverend's take on these styles will have a playability, and tonal quality, that'll clobber their apparent peers.

martyncrew

01-11-2007, 05:52 PM

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/buckshot_cream_jg.jpg
I had to put this one up. Love the maple neck!

Hmmm, swap that Revtron for a P90??? I wonder what the effect of the tune-a-matic type set up will have on the T-pickup?

Rebel-Guitars

01-11-2007, 05:58 PM

Martyncrew

Check your inbox.

Phillip_H

01-11-2007, 09:28 PM

I don't really care for the new 3+3 headstock shape, and I miss the old Reverend logo.

However, some of the new designs are pretty dang cool. The Buckshot is super-cool (although the pickguard design is kinda weird), and I really like the silver flake finish on the anniversary Jetstream (if it had P90s I would be seriously tempted to put mine on the 'Bay).

portsider

01-12-2007, 04:29 AM

Hmmm, swap that Revtron for a P90??? I wonder what the effect of the tune-a-matic type set up will have on the T-pickup?
I am thinking, a Les Trem on that model. For $600 that is quite a package. With used USA prices on the rise it is a starting to look like a real bargain.

ticohans

01-12-2007, 06:16 AM

Holy crap those new guitars are unbelievable!!!

Love the idea of the tele with a p90 at the neck. Warhawk II 390 is also SWEET. The LP-styles are flat-top right?

Also REALLY digging the maple cap Gil Paris.

Someone has to go to NAMM and give us a DETAILED report on ALL the new guitars.

Jon Silberman

01-12-2007, 09:18 AM

Holy s-! Lotsa new developments, all right! Who'll be at NAMM? We need a full report!

skrzyp

01-12-2007, 09:42 AM

Given that the new set-neck models are all painted, any opinions on advantages/disadvantages compared to natural finishes?

(I've never played a guitar with a painted neck.)

Rebel-Guitars

01-12-2007, 09:44 AM

Holy s-! Lotsa new developments, all right! Who'll be at NAMM? We need a full report!

I going to NAMM Jon. I should have my camera and laptop and will try to post some pics each day after the show time permitting. Anyone else here going or curious about any other new products? I may can snap some photos or pic up some catalogs from other booths.

zimmer

01-12-2007, 09:45 AM

There is a honey Volcano among the set-necks, fwiw.

Jon Silberman

01-12-2007, 11:15 AM

I going to NAMM Jon. I should have my camera and laptop and will try to post some pics each day after the show time permitting. Anyone else here going or curious about any other new products? I may can snap some photos or pic up some catalogs from other booths.
Excellent! Please give Joe (and Kristin, if she's with him in LA) all of our fondest regards and best wishes.

Joe Naylor

01-12-2007, 11:53 AM

Hey ya'll, just wanted to pop in real quick and say thanks for all the comments and support! Been working on this stuff for about a year, feels good to finally get it out there.

Wes, please stop by and introduce yourself if you get a chance.

Jon, aren't you about due for a NAMM adventure?

Thanks!!!

Joe

Paul Conway

01-12-2007, 02:00 PM

How much do I want a Buckshot or a Black Gil Parris? Lots. Glad to see a 1 11/16" nut on the warhawks. If the Gil had that, I'd be biting off your hand, Joe.

Joe Naylor

01-12-2007, 02:21 PM

How much do I want a Buckshot or a Black Gil Parris? Lots. Glad to see a 1 11/16" nut on the warhawks. If the Gil had that, I'd be biting off your hand, Joe.

Well, the bolt-on nuts are only narrower by .86 mm total...

martyncrew

01-12-2007, 02:44 PM

Paul - maybe you should bite .86mm of your hand off, then everything should be fine!;)

Jon Silberman

01-12-2007, 03:12 PM

Jon, aren't you about due for a NAMM adventure?

I'm overdue! In fact, I feel like Bilbo Baggins at the end of Lord of the Rings: [English accent] "I think I'm quite ready for another adventure!"

Jon Silberman

01-12-2007, 03:14 PM

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/buckshot_cream_jg.jpg

Why, I think I might also dig this color, guard, and fretboard combo. ;)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/682310/8450308/136928219.jpg

martyncrew

01-12-2007, 03:16 PM

Jon - don't try the English accent - not even in print!

Jon Silberman

01-12-2007, 03:18 PM

You sound like my 12 year old daughter now, she tells me the same thing! :o

martyncrew

01-12-2007, 03:32 PM

I tell my 9 year old daughter not to copy my (really English) accent all the time but it doesn't stop her doing it!

Crazyquilt

01-12-2007, 03:37 PM

I have to stop my 16 year old stepdaughter from doing it on a regular basis. The fact that she's deeply into Dr. Who, Torchwood, Black Adder, Eddie Izzard & the inescapable Monty Python provide much pain-inducing material.

A42

01-12-2007, 04:55 PM

Holy crap!!!! Buckshot? Yes, please. Manta Ray? Uh-huh! Daredevil? Yes, yes, yes. Very, very nice looking stuff.

Crazyquilt

01-12-2007, 05:38 PM

Psst ... anyone want an old style Warhawk? :)

Jon Silberman

01-12-2007, 05:58 PM

25 years from now, CQ, yours'll be the "collectible one." ;)

BarryJ

01-12-2007, 07:01 PM

Well, I love my now 'old school' Warhawk and have no plans to get rid of it....but something is going to have to go up on the auction block to pay for this!!:

(With a Les Trem added, of course)

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/hi-res/warhawk_II_390_malp_lg.jpg

propellr

01-12-2007, 10:18 PM

C,mon, tell the truth, fellas. You're so busy drooling over these new Reverends that your Advanced or Retro Pro Series Slingshot (or Slingshot Custom) won't even be missed after I take it off your hands. So, give up the goods. Will go to a good home.

Cheers,

Propellr

Rebel-Guitars

01-13-2007, 01:04 AM

Ok guys, here's an odd one. This Engine Turn has 3 Bill Lawrence L-550 pickups direct mounted into two strips of wood that are glue into the cavity. Very nicely done with routes for the wires. They have the output wrote on the bottom in marker like other stock Reverend pickup I've seen before. The pickguard appears to be from an aftermarket place, there are still signs of protective plastic under the screws. Notice the placement of the volume and tone knobs. Plus a Reverend P-90 pickup won't fit, so this guard was made for these slightly smaller Bill Lawrence pickups. And lastly, a pretty clean job making the strat style jack fit. There's a small block of wood for one side of the jack to screw into, while still utilizing the end pickguard screw hole for the other. I swear the top of that block has a white layer of phenolic!
Oh yeah, the neck doesn't match the body, ser# says it suspose to be a White Avenger, and the tuners are vintage style Klusons, and the saddles have been changed to a vintage style. Whew! It still plays and sounds good. Pickups are very hot! Somebody went to a lot of trouble. Any ideas?

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture002-1.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture007-2.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture012-1.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture004-1.jpg

Mike Duncan

01-13-2007, 07:00 AM

Now, I LIKE that!

Jon Silberman

01-13-2007, 07:28 AM

I do, too.

I've always thought it unfortunate that Reverend couldn't have also retained a small USA "custom shop" for one-off orders upon shifting to Korean production but we've been down that river before and it's water under the bridge. :(

Paul Conway

01-13-2007, 07:54 AM

Paul - maybe you should bite .86mm of your hand off, then everything should be fine!;)

Messy! I am 6' 2" and have very long, large fingers. The extra space a modern nut spacing gives me means I don't trip over my own fingers on the fretboard (I had to sell a Levinson 62 strat copy because of this). The US Rev neck is ok for most things, but still feels a little cramped for jazz stuff. The modern Fender neck is perfect for me. Shame about the rest of the guitar. (-;

Paul Conway

01-13-2007, 08:20 AM

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/the_company/personnel_photos/ken_haas_big.jpg That's a cool-looking guitar.

Paul Conway

01-13-2007, 10:01 AM

http://www.hillcountryguitars.com/531.htm This should appeal to you Rev-heads, I think.

urizen

01-13-2007, 11:52 AM

http://www.hillcountryguitars.com/531.htm This should appeal to you Rev-heads, I think.

Yes....yes it does----dammit.
I'm still paying for Xmas, but that piece is JUST tweaked enough from a Jerry Jones/Danelectro while having its own thang that it is VER' temptin' (BUT I SWORE to my wife me GAS were gone).

Mike Duncan

01-13-2007, 01:01 PM

I dig that too.....

ol' bugeyes

01-13-2007, 03:49 PM

I going to NAMM Jon. I should have my camera and laptop and will try to post some pics each day after the show time permitting. Anyone else here going or curious about any other new products? I may can snap some photos or pic up some catalogs from other booths.

sure wes.

if you happen to see that Tone In Progress 3rd Hand pedals, shoot some video of a demo and post it somewhere. (you know, since you don't have anything else to do...) actually, just tell me if it's good or not.

Glenn_K

01-13-2007, 04:11 PM

WOWW! I didn't expect all this new stuff. I'm going to have to buy some guitars now... help me. I like at least 3 of them! That anniversary Jetstream... OMG! How can I get a blue one AND an anniversary one?? Plus a Warhawk or a Daredevil? There's too much cool stuff. Oh and the Buckshot! The name alone is worth buying it for!! Add the cool pickup selection and it's a must have!!

IPLAYLOUD

01-13-2007, 04:11 PM

I have a CK290 serial #4640
It was the first one fitted with a Les Trem when Joe was testing it. He sent it to me to give some "real World abuse", and I reported back that I loved it.
it is Wine Red, and hasn't the "best" finish I've ever seen (kinda blotchy in places, but not bad), and the F-Hole edges were rough and not finished very well, so I assume this was a pre-production sample for Joe to approve. It also had a second hole in the headstock for a second string tree.
I had the head sprayed Black with an all-white Rev decal on top.
VERY classy look.

Mike Duncan

01-13-2007, 06:57 PM

I like it that Glenn and I have the EXACT same taste in Reverends.

Joe Naylor

01-13-2007, 10:47 PM

Wes, that guitar is badass! I think chrome knobs would look wicked.

We for sure did not do the work on that one, I would've remembered that.

Rebel-Guitars

01-13-2007, 11:34 PM

Wes, that guitar is badass! I think chrome knobs would look wicked.

We for sure did not do the work on that one, I would've remembered that.

I ordered 3 P-90s and a pickguard a few days ago to drop in it, but I'm starting to like the Lawrence pickups. (Plus I didn't order the damn mounting brackets!) I do have a Slingshot assembly already wired up I'll probably try.

ol'bugeyes-I'll try to find them and get some info.

Paul Conway

01-14-2007, 01:18 AM

I ordered 3 P-90s and a pickguard a few days ago to drop in it, but I'm starting to like the Lawrence pickups. (Plus I didn't order the damn mounting brackets!) I do have a Slingshot assembly already wired up I'll probably try.

ol'bugeyes-I'll try to find them and get some info.

If you can deal with the wait, Bill & Becky Lawrence make some decent pickups at a very good price. I have some in my tele. The neck pickup is great.

Glenn_K

01-14-2007, 06:17 AM

I like it that Glenn and I have the EXACT same taste in Reverends.

:RoCkIn

We just like the coolest ones.

Glenn_K

01-14-2007, 06:31 AM

By the way, I actually LOVE the honey Volcano, but the fact that I couldn't play it sitting down, and memories of Benny and the Jets are keeping me from that one. One thing I noticed on the volcano.. the strap knob on the tail end looks to be in an odd place but I suppose I would have to try one of these on to know. Anyway, I just saw a band recently where a guy was playing a V and it was very cool. Not in a heavy metal way... in a very slick retro way.. this is how I picture the honey model coming off. The black one might be more for the heavy crowd. I wouldn't be surprised if a honey volcano ended up in my hands.

Jon Silberman

01-14-2007, 07:08 AM

portsider

01-14-2007, 10:10 AM

Does anyone know whether this is a Hipshot or the earlier Trem bridge?
http://i7.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/83/70/efc2_3.JPG

Crazyquilt

01-14-2007, 11:39 AM

I have no idea, but those turquoise knobs are totally stylin'.

Glenn_K

01-14-2007, 12:07 PM

Does anyone know whether this is a Hipshot or the earlier Trem bridge?

It's either not a Hipshot, or an earlier version of the Hipshot. I have 2 Reverends I bought new with Hipshots and they're different than that.

portsider

01-14-2007, 12:41 PM

It's either not a Hipshot, or an earlier version of the Hipshot. I have 2 Reverends I bought new with Hipshots and they're different than that.
I was afraid of that. Those old trems leave a lot to be desired. I love the look of that thing, but my Jetstream 390 has a killer Wilkinson so I'll stick with that. :crazyguy

Joe Naylor

01-14-2007, 01:58 PM

IPL in the houze... east side OG.

That's an older trem.

You can play a V sitting. Just wedge the crotch of the V on the inside of your right thigh.

Jon Silberman

01-14-2007, 02:06 PM

You can play a V sitting. Just wedge the crotch of the V on the inside of your right thigh.
Yikes, sounds "exciting." ;) :p :D

TGwaH

01-14-2007, 02:17 PM

You can play a V sitting. Just wedge the crotch of the V on the inside of your right thigh.

Yikes, sounds "exciting." ;) :p :D

In terms of classical style guitar, that style of playing is better for tone and technique.

Well, technique at the very least.;)

Glenn_K

01-14-2007, 03:27 PM

In terms of classical style guitar, that style of playing is better for tone and technique.

Well, technique at the very least.;)

Actually I did read that that position is more similar to standing up as far as the angle of your wrist etc. I saw Joe playing that way at one of the shows and thought it was unusual, but later heard about the benefits.

ol' bugeyes

01-14-2007, 06:26 PM

i've switch over to playing that way while sitting about 50% of the time. better for the back.

Jon Silberman

01-15-2007, 07:02 AM

Can be terrible for the wrist and elbow tendons, though. However you hold your guitar, try to keep your hand, wrist, and arm from your fingers to your elbow as straight as possible.

Glenn_K

01-15-2007, 09:14 AM

A comment on the new headstock for the set necks... looks nice to me. Some others have said they don't like it, but I think it's very well done.

Crazyquilt

01-15-2007, 09:58 AM

I like it, as well, Glenn. And the new logo/font. I'm just trying to avoid trolling the Rev site with wicked thoughts in my mind. I'm totally tapped out.

Phillip_H

01-15-2007, 10:52 AM

A comment on the new headstock for the set necks... looks nice to me. Some others have said they don't like it, but I think it's very well done.

I like it, as well, Glenn. And the new logo/font. I'm just trying to avoid trolling the Rev site with wicked thoughts in my mind. I'm totally tapped out.

I guess I'm in the minority then... :o

Actually, the new headstock is growing on me. I still prefer the old logo though.

A42

01-15-2007, 08:58 PM

Okay, so I've been gassing for a 335-style axe for a long time. (And I can't justify shelling out the cost of a new or even used Gibson.) Just the other day I was in Guitarget playing an Epi Dot Deluxe Flametop. Pretty nice guitar for under $400. I was on a really tight schedule or I probably would've bought it. I got home and checked the Reverend site for the first time in a while and what did I find but oodles of new models.

I think I have to have a Manta Ray HB-FM.

I wonder if the mahogany back/sides makes any difference in the tone compared to a 335 or Dot? I'm also having difficulty seeing what it looks like with the flat top. Hopefully we'll get some more pictures after NAMM?

GreenTea

01-16-2007, 03:29 AM

A comment on the new headstock for the set necks... looks nice to me. Some others have said they don't like it, but I think it's very well done.

Anybody know if the new Reverend set-necks have fat necks :AOK or are they not so fat :puh ?

This one looks pretty sweet
http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/Large/000007905.jpg

I'd love to see a guitar like this with a fat neck!

Jon Silberman

01-16-2007, 06:00 AM

Rebel-Guitars

01-16-2007, 07:52 AM

There's a cool Hitman on Ebay right now for 750.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Reverend-Hitman-w-Eastpoint-maple-neck-Naylor-USA-NR_W0QQitemZ270080066028QQihZ017QQcategoryZ2384QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Joe Naylor

01-16-2007, 07:54 AM

Anybody know if the new Reverend set-necks have fat necks :AOK or are they not so fat :puh ?

This one looks pretty sweet
http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/Large/000007905.jpg

I'd love to see a guitar like this with a fat neck!

The necks are the same thickness as the Bolt-Ons, which are a little chunkier than the last "Reverend USA" necks. I wouldn't call them fat, but they're definitely not skinny. Very medium.

Jon Silberman

01-16-2007, 09:41 AM

Very medium.

You sound like my brother when he orders his steaks, Joe! :)

Paul Conway

01-16-2007, 10:53 AM

I'm not fussed about the 'G#bson-esque' set-necks, but I'm sure they'll go down well. Maybe this is Joe's 'Schechter moment' when planet-wide budget guitar success finds him. I hope so. RIP Michael Brecker.

martyncrew

01-16-2007, 11:12 AM

Not sure what you mean exactly by "fat." If you mean Nocaster-type fat, I can't see that happening with a Rev (nor would I like it - those necks fatigue my hands after hours of playing) but if you mean Eastpoint fat, I love those necks so much. They're just a tad fatter than their non-Eastpoint counterparts but sometimes a tad is all that's necessary to make a big difference. :)

I agree with Jon, the Reverend neck is not fat in the same sense as a Nocaster neck. Much more of a chunky 60s Strat profile. Very comfortable, playable necks witn excellent fret-work.

BTW, the import neck profile is so close to the Eastpointe profile that I can't tell the difference - YMMV.

Secret Ingredient

01-16-2007, 10:23 PM

I agree with Jon, the Reverend neck is not fat in the same sense as a Nocaster neck. Much more of a chunky 60s Strat profile. Very comfortable, playable necks witn excellent fret-work.

BTW, the import neck profile is so close to the Eastpointe profile that I can't tell the difference - YMMV.

I've been GASing for a Rev for a while. These imports could be the ticket, and, coming from a guy with small hands, I don't want a baseball bat neck. I love the neck on my G&L. I hope the rev is not much bigger.

john1056

01-17-2007, 07:28 AM

I've been gassing for a Rev for a while. These imports could be the ticket, and, coming from a guy with small hands, I don't want a baseball bat neck. I love the neck on my G&L. I hope the rev is not much bigger.

I had a G&L and the neck was very thin and flat, but I don't think all G&Ls are like that. Reverend necks are definitely not baseball bats, but they aren't Ibanez Wizards either :) In my experience, when I hand my Reverend to another guitar player chances are one of the first things they say is "nice neck". It’s almost uncanny. The next of last of the U.S. Reverends were thinner than the Retro-Pros which use the same neck as the imports. Earlier Reverends are a bit thicker. The prototypes of the bolt-on-series are a little thinner too.

Jon Silberman

01-17-2007, 09:11 AM

Joe, will you be attending Summer NAAM this year (I may have an opportunity to go)?

Joe Naylor

01-17-2007, 09:39 PM

Oh yeah, we'll be there. And Austin ROCKS!

Secret Ingredient

01-18-2007, 12:29 AM

Encouraging to know the necks are not huge. I think some of the current fascination with big guitar necks is an ego thing. Some guys just can't admit to themselves that a smaller "anything" might be better for them.

I had a G&L and the neck was very thin and flat, but I don't think all G&Ls are like that. Reverend necks are definitely not baseball bats, but they aren't Ibanez Wizards either :) In my experience, when I hand my Reverend to another guitar player chances are one of the first things they say is "nice neck". It’s almost uncanny. The next of last of the U.S. Reverends were thinner than the Retro-Pros which use the same neck as the imports. Earlier Reverends are a bit thicker. The prototypes of the bolt-on-series are a little thinner too.

Jon Silberman

01-18-2007, 05:45 AM

Oh yeah, we'll be there. And Austin ROCKS!

Excellent! :dude

P.S. I can't believe it - while I slept, we shot over 100,000 views and no one woke me. ;)

Jon Silberman

01-18-2007, 05:47 AM

I think some of the current fascination with big guitar necks is an ego thing. Some guys just can't admit to themselves that a smaller "anything" might be better for them.
SwirlCrazy, I really do believe there's a lot of truth to what you just said (and the same for heavier gauge strings, too).

Mike Duncan

01-18-2007, 06:19 AM

Jon Silberman

01-18-2007, 07:09 AM

Bigger is better in my case...not to open a potential can of worms, but I can say without a doubt that ego has nothing to do with my choice in guitars. I have a Stratocaster that has a very small neck and it cramps my rather large hands. With the combination of my playing style and hand size, a larger neck just works better.
Mike, didn't mean to suggest otherwise for any single given individual. You're obviously an accomplished player who's been around the block on gear and your choice of a larger neck and heavier strings is a thoughtful, ergodynamic, toneful decision. There seem to be many people, however, who are not as thoughtful and jump on the "large neck/heavy gauge strings" bandwagon because it's the flavor of the times. To those folks I'd say, play a 3 hour gig or jam and then tell me what your hands tell you!

ford

01-18-2007, 07:40 AM

Wow Reverend has added a lot of guitars... the tele is cool...I don't need another tele style guitar though....

maybe a flatroc.....

or one with 2 p90's....

rock

bford

portsider

01-18-2007, 09:39 AM

My three, in order:
1 Buckshot, cream/maple.
2 Warhawk II 390, green.
2 Gil Parris, gold/blonde.
All with Les Trem and gig bag.

Next...

Tycho

01-18-2007, 09:59 AM

I'm not a big fan of white guitars in general, but that cream finish looks really good in the pics.

martyncrew

01-18-2007, 11:32 AM

My top 3:

1. Buckshot, maple/cream
2. Buckshot, maple/cream
3. Buckshot, maple/cream

portsider

01-18-2007, 12:20 PM

My top 3:

1. Buckshot, maple/cream
2. Buckshot, maple/cream
3. Buckshot, maple/cream
Waddaya tryin' to say, Martyn?
:horse

martyncrew

01-18-2007, 12:22 PM

I'm just examining all my options very carefully...

A42

01-18-2007, 12:45 PM

1. Manta Ray HB-FM

2. Daredevil HB, cream
3. Buckshot cream/maple

But #'s 2 & 3 are way behind... in danger of being lapped.

propellr

01-18-2007, 01:24 PM

I've been looking for a Rick Vito model for awhile. Anybody know of any for sale, or want to part with theirs?
Thanks!

There's a brand new one at a store in Charlottesville, VA called Specialty Guitars Plus. It's black with the Vito graphics and black p/u covers. Comes with an aftermarket "coffin" case. I called today and the price on it is $2K. He said someone could come in and make an offer after he heard me choking on the phone. No, really, I said, "That's a bit higher than retail." And he said, "That's what the price is, now. Someone could come in and make an offer." Thought I'd let you know.

So, my answer to your question is yes, I know of one for sale and no, I don't think he wants to part with it.

Secret Ingredient

01-18-2007, 01:39 PM

Mike, didn't mean to suggest otherwise for any single given individual. You're obviously an accomplished player who's been around the block on gear and your choice of a larger neck and heavier strings is a thoughtful, ergodynamic, toneful decision. There seem to be many people, however, who are not as thoughtful and jump on the "large neck/heavy gauge strings" bandwagon because it's the flavor of the times. To those folks I'd say, play a 3 hour gig or jam and then tell me what your hands tell you!

+1

My thoughts exactly

Secret Ingredient

01-18-2007, 01:47 PM

My three, in order:
1 Buckshot, cream/maple.
2 Warhawk II 390, green.
2 Gil Parris, gold/blonde.
All with Les Trem and gig bag.

Next...

1. Flatroc , orange
2. manta, gold
3. Buckshot (nod to Buck Owens?) cream.

Bob Wood

01-18-2007, 02:18 PM

my top three (of the moment and in no particular order)

1. Daredevil 290 - Metallic Alpine
2. Manta Ray 290 - Tobacco Sunburst
3. Volcano - Black with the cream pickguard

I am so digging both the metallic alpine and the black with cream pickguard on any of the models.:drool

phantasm

01-18-2007, 02:26 PM

The flying V would look alot cooler with the reversed strat style headstock.
What's the price of the import models?

Bob Wood

01-18-2007, 02:40 PM

The flying V would look alot cooler with the reversed strat style headstock.
What's the price of the import models?

I could see that - but i don't mind the new headstock for something different.

The import prices are $499 to $599, depending on model. All listed on the website, check it: http://reverendguitars.com/

Avenger

01-18-2007, 02:48 PM

Only three? Today it would be:

1. Manta Ray HB - gold (I wish the HB came in Alpine Green)
2. Buckshot - 3 tone burst
3. Warhawk II HB - blue

o.k. I'll cheat

4. 10th Anniversary Jetstream
5. Volcano - honey (it would be #1 if I didn't play sitting down most of the time)

All with the trem...

Crazyquilt

01-18-2007, 02:50 PM

In no particular order:

1. Warhawk II 390 w/Les Trem in Tobacco Sunburst
2. Daredevil HB in wine red
3. Buckshot in cream/maple
4. 10th Annie Jetstream

I don't need any of these guitars -- the only base I don't have covered is a 3xP90 guitar. So the WH is probably top of the list. The Daredevil, I suspect, doesn't sound a whole lot different than my Warhawk HB, although probably warmer (since it's a mahogany, not maple, neck) w/less snap from the scale length. The Buckshot is cool -- but I have too many Tele type guitars as it is (hence trying to sell 2 of them.) And I'm still not sure about the TOM bridge.

I have to admit, also, that as much as I like the Rev imports, I kind of look at them as really cool platforms for mods. I've got a set of GFS Wide-Range Humbucker style pickups to go in my Warhawk. If those don't knock me out, I may try some of the Retrotrons or some flavor of 90. Depending on how it works out, I might add on a Les Trem. That way, I get something that not only looks unique, but sounds even more unique than stock Revs do. I like the idea of making 'em all over funky. That's the reason the Bucky isn't top of my list -- I don't know that anything else fits in a Rev'tron mount (a standard Filtertron certainly doesn't.)

Avenger

01-18-2007, 03:09 PM

Secret Ingredient

01-18-2007, 04:51 PM

I find it interesting that nobody (myself included) has mentioned the Roundhouses. If you are looking for an LP type guitar they do look pretty cool.

I suppose most people who are drawn to Reverends are drawn to the more unique models.

Although I understand why Reverend would make that model, I agree with you. Most people looking at Reverend stuff want something different.

Wonder how different the Club King RT sounds compared to the Flatroc. Both very intriguing.

malvivant

01-18-2007, 05:55 PM

Wonder how different the Club King RT sounds compared to the Flatroc. Both very intriguing.

That same question was being kicked around in the other Reverend schmooze-room, and Joe weighed in with this assesment:

"The RT is a bigger body and much more hollow. The tone is more open and resonant, more of the hollow-body qualties.

The FR sounds more like solidbody, tighter and more focused with a harder attack."

And I reckon he'd know.
In an abrubt change of subject, I was gonna stagger down to the NAMM show to see the new line, but when I went to NAMM's site to get the address, I saw a "Not open to the public" notice. Generally speaking, I'd rather be staked on an anthill than go to something like a NAMM show, but I was pretty hot to see the new Revs. Oh well. I suppose I'll just have to cool it until they show up at the (semi) local Reverend dealer.

ol' bugeyes

01-18-2007, 06:14 PM

CK RT in metallic alpine
white or black Volcano
10th anniversary jetstream HB (if i can talk joe into putting p90s in it!)

the exact order of preference is still a mystery.

:confused:

Jon Silberman

01-19-2007, 06:32 AM

I just wish I had my red Eastpoint SS back. Should never have sold it (my current 3 are NOT enough!).

john1056

01-19-2007, 06:59 AM

I find it interesting that nobody (myself included) has mentioned the Roundhouses. If you are looking for an LP type guitar they do look pretty cool.

I suppose most people who are drawn to Reverends are drawn to the more unique models.

I think the Tobacco Burst Roundhouse 290 is my fav of the new Reverends :) The white and black one is really sharp too. I'm not that attracted to the HB ones though.

propellr

01-19-2007, 07:35 AM

There's a brand new one at a store in Charlottesville, VA called Specialty Guitars Plus. It's black with the Vito graphics and black p/u covers. Comes with an aftermarket "coffin" case. I called today and the price on it is $2K. He said someone could come in and make an offer after he heard me choking on the phone. No, really, I said, "That's a bit higher than retail." And he said, "That's what the price is, now. Someone could come in and make an offer." Thought I'd let you know.

So, my answer to your question is yes, I know of one for sale and no, I don't think he wants to part with it.

The shop owner emailed me after I called, which settled me a bit. He explained that he had bought it direct from Reverend and he said there were only a couple of these particular models made. (This lets me know he didn't pay dealer cost for it, so he's still looking to make money on it's sale). He said it was shipped with a gig bag. I emailed him to say that I was looking for a SS or SSC, but if the Rick Vito was in the originall case and priced to move, I might have considered it. Mainly, I said, I was calling to inquire if he still had the Rick Vito, as most other websites that have USA Reverends for sale had sold them and hadn't updated their sites.
I thought I'd pass this along.

There was a gold Rick VIto that sold several weeks ago on ebay? Didn't it sell for right around a grand?

lfio710

01-19-2007, 09:45 AM

That is a bit pricey! My gas has temporarily subsided because the pumpkin orange Wolfman I picked up on Ebay arrived yesterday. It's sweet! And I really like the Gil Parris model as well, so if i dont find a reasonably priced Vito that may be my next purchase. I'm going to keep my eyes open for one though. That gold Vito recently went for $1100 I believe. It was apparently a flip, because the seller picked it up not long before that for like $650 or something!

i just sent you a PM regarding a Slingshot.

Jon Silberman

01-19-2007, 09:47 AM

propellr

01-19-2007, 10:00 AM

On used gear, the market sets the ultimate price. If this guy thinks he can get $2K for it, let him try. Personally, the Vito graphics don't do anything for me nor do hotter P90s (the regular Rev P90s are just perfect in my view).

I'm with you on that, Jon.

I saw that pumpkin wolfman on ebay, but, as I have and enjoy 2 guitars with humbuckers, I'm looking for one with P-90s. I jumped on the reverend bandwagon after it ran out of gas, so to speak, in that, I had just found out about them after they'd been discontinued.

Secret Ingredient

01-19-2007, 10:18 AM

Maybe if the new line does well, Reverend can reintroduce some of the older model types. Maybe go back to the metal tops on some.

off topic: I think the Trussart rusty pauls and teles are awesome, but just so way beyond me price wise. I don't see why someone could not take those same basic processes and make them a lot less expensive. Steel rusts in Korea, right?

Trussart has a model that is a hybrid electric guitar/dobro sort of thing. I'm dying to hear clips of that one. Reverend has a history of working with unusual materials etc. I bet they could make some kicking metal bodied instruments.

Bob Wood

01-19-2007, 11:19 AM

That is a bit pricey! My gas has temporarily subsided because the pumpkin orange Wolfman I picked up on Ebay arrived yesterday. It's sweet! .

I've got an identical Pumpkin Orange Wolfman, I love it! I bought it (it was "new" from a dealer) on ebay back in september, paid 27 dollars less than you did. So they're increasing in value (slightly).

I too would love to see Reverend bring back some metal tops. I want a gold metal top SS with bigsby. I don't really use the bigsby, but it just looks "tuff";) .

propellr

01-19-2007, 11:20 AM

I've got an identical Pumpkin Orange Wolfman, I love it! I bought it (it was "new" from a dealer) on ebay back in september, paid 27 dollars less than you did. So they're increasing in value (slightly).

I too would love to see Reverend bring back some metal tops. I want a gold metal top SS with bigsby. I don't really use the bigsby, but it just looks "tuff";) .

I feel the same way. They do look tough! The other trem arm, not so much.

Mike Duncan

01-19-2007, 11:30 AM

I have a pumpkin wolfman too!! Sweet!

Bob Wood

01-19-2007, 11:34 AM

I saw that pumpkin wolfman on ebay, but, as I have and enjoy 2 guitars with humbuckers, I'm looking for one with P-90s. I jumped on the reverend bandwagon after it ran out of gas, so to speak, in that, I had just found out about them after they'd been discontinued.

Same here, they announced the end of the USA revs about a month after I started looking at them. Seems to be happening to me alot lately with music in general - I 'discover' a band or musician and they immediatly break up or pass away. You don't want me as a fan.

I think the new trem arms go well with the new revs, but for the old ones, the Bigsby is it.

OT newb question - Can anyone tell me how to quote multiple posts in one reply? thanks.

Secret Ingredient

01-19-2007, 02:10 PM

You don't want me as a fan.

I'm the same way. Got interested in the revs around the time usa production was coming to a close. Also, I dig the G&L swirl finishes, which are not made anymore. My amp is a Gibson super goldtone, another line that was dropped. It's a sickness I guess.

Robert1950

01-19-2007, 07:48 PM

I like this:

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/roundhouse_290/roundhouse_290_toba.jpg

and this:

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/warhawk_2_390/warhawk_2_390_toba.jpg

snod_ix

01-19-2007, 11:48 PM

I'm looking to buy an american reverend if you guys know anybody who wants to part with something like a rocco or perhaps avenger shoot me an e-mail.

Paul Conway

01-20-2007, 03:10 AM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200071026663&indexURL=4#ebayphotohosting VERRRRRRRYYYYY nice, Avenger fans. I used to look on this finish with disdain, based on the Rev site photo's...but these photos show me how wrong I was.

Glenn_K

01-20-2007, 06:39 AM

ticohans

01-20-2007, 07:54 AM

Where's our NAMM report?!?!?! :BITCH... :AOK

Glenn_K

01-20-2007, 11:53 AM

good question!

ol' bugeyes

01-20-2007, 07:48 PM

there's a lot of the new ones I like... The Daredevil HB is not necessarily the coolest looking one, but it fills a hole in my collection since I've been seeking an SG-ish guitar for some time. Might do that one soon. If the Reverend set necks are as good as the bolt-ons (fretboards, etc.) That will be half the battle. The rest is the tone of course.

i've got the same mindset. i've wanted a V forever, but just couldn't justify spending the dough on some generic newer gibson.

and paul:

talked a local kid into getting a rev before they switched. he's got a flame maple wolfman that just nails it style wise on so many levels.

i'm feeling that way about the volcano right now. coincidence?

p.s. to all. i'm feeling very strongly inclined to begin my return to a trem system (thanks to adrian belew). i'm familiar with fender, g&l, and a little bit the bigsby. can anyone give me a comparison on feel, tonal affect, and tuning stability?

Rebel-Guitars

01-20-2007, 09:09 PM

Where's our NAMM report?!?!?! :BITCH... :AOK

What's up guys? NAMM is going good, super crowded. Got my hands on a few of the new Reverends Thursday, but its hard to really get anything done in this crowd. The booth looks nice (pictures will be posted later). The Buckshot is so cool, so is the Anniversary model. Maybe tomorrow things will start slowing down so I can crank some more stuff through the Hellhound Joe brought! Joe looked to be very busy, which is good! All the new models looked very nice in person, the maple necks were my favorite. I think the set-necks are going to go over good too. More later!

ticohans

01-21-2007, 06:17 AM

Thanks for the preliminary report, wes! Looking forward to hearing your opinions of the guitars, buckshot and gil parris especially. Good luck finding a quiet moment!

majorledhead

01-21-2007, 07:59 AM

Hey guys, I'm looking for a USA Slingshot also. So I take it you don't think the Rick Vito at specialty guitars plus is worth 2K. I was close to pulling the trigger but just can't do it. I think the Vito is pretty cool looking and is probably one of the last USA made ones out there, but I want one to play not collect and hope that its value goes up. So If you have any leads, I'd be forever thankful.

Jon Silberman

01-21-2007, 08:21 AM

If you buy that Vito at $2K I guarantee you it will be the most money ever paid yet in the world for any Reverend guitar by anyone.

Personally, I don't even like the Vito model so I'm no position to offer objective advice on this one. I do hate overpaying, though. On the other hand, there's only a few & they ain't making no more.

Bottom line: you buy it for $2K, I believe - just my opinion, YMMV - you better really want it and plan on holding onto it for a while or else not care about resale value because I think few people would pony up that kind of dough for that axe.

So, IOW I think you're doing the right thing. Best of luck finding your USA Rev!

Jon Silberman

01-21-2007, 08:26 AM

martyncrew

01-21-2007, 09:09 AM

...thanks to Jon for creating the thread and driving it forward!

majorledhead

01-21-2007, 09:49 AM

Just a follow up on the Vito model. I paid the $3.00 for a Orion blue book quote on this model :
msrp- $2100
used-$1150
mint wholesale-$700
average wholesale-$430
thanks to the opinions of fellow TGP members and research through the blue books and past ebay auctions, I've been cured from G.A.S. causing poor decision making. Patience and perserverance will prevail, with a little help from your friends.

Avenger

01-21-2007, 11:25 AM

I too have to say, thanks for the great thread, Jon.

Avenger

01-21-2007, 11:36 AM

p.s. to all. i'm feeling very strongly inclined to begin my return to a trem system (thanks to adrian belew). i'm familiar with fender, g&l, and a little bit the bigsby. can anyone give me a comparison on feel, tonal affect, and tuning stability?

Maybe Glenn will chime in on this one. He is the resident trem connoisseur.

BTW I've seen Adrian Belew play twice. Once in a small club in Champaign IL at the second ever show of the Bears and once playing with Bowie. He is great. Totally unique.

Jon Silberman

01-21-2007, 01:51 PM

"If you build it" is only one half of the equation. The other is "they will come." We're partners, let's keep it going!

Personally, I love the fact that you and I are aware, dig, and support the products of this small music company that so many others have yet to experience. :)

Falstaff

01-21-2007, 01:59 PM

Hey, fellow Rev Congregants: 1 and 1/2 years and still going strong. That's f- awesome!

I do believe we're now the oldest continuous thread in TGP and the longest-running one of all time.

Hey Joe, where you going with that guitar in your hands? In terms of contributing to the pleasure in my life, you're almost part of the family by now. :)

This thread has been killing me ever since it began...every post increases the chance that I will grow a set and sell the Historic Junior that I never play because the Gibson scale isn't comfy for me anymore and purchase a Reverend. Or two. :AOK Darn you all.

martyncrew

01-21-2007, 02:28 PM

Psst...

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=206972

Falstaff

01-21-2007, 02:43 PM

The Geneva convention should outlaw posts like that. :)

It's going to take me a while to unload the Junior; I have a buyer but I just have to get the thing to his store.

martyncrew

01-21-2007, 02:50 PM

I agree...I'm appalled anyone would do something so crass and commercial

Glenn_K

01-21-2007, 05:48 PM

i'm feeling very strongly inclined to begin my return to a trem system (thanks to adrian belew). i'm familiar with fender, g&l, and a little bit the bigsby. can anyone give me a comparison on feel, tonal affect, and tuning stability?

Both Bigsby and Hipshot have great stability and no tuning problems. The Bigsby is a bit tough and takes a bit of muscle (comparitively). You're not going to sound like Adrien Belew with a Bigsby, but you can still do some mildly crazy stuff. Hipshot is more sensitive and lets you go totally crazy. The Les Trem looks like it might be somewhere inbetween. Joe seems to do a good job with making sure tuning stability is there. I have guitars without trems that are far less stable. All my Reverends have trems. The way I see it is why WOULDN'T you get a trem? You can always not use it, right? There's an article in the latest Vintage Guitar mag about add-on trems. I wonder how they compare to the Les-Trem.

Mike Duncan

01-22-2007, 01:05 PM

Any NAMM pictures yet?

Jeeves

01-22-2007, 02:09 PM

Question: Does Reverend make a Baritone electric, i.e. 27 or 28+" scale length? I couldn't find anything on their website...

martyncrew

01-22-2007, 02:58 PM

No, but you could achieve this using a Warmoth baritone neck.

Jon Silberman

01-22-2007, 05:52 PM

Can those be simply bolted onto the body of a 25 1/2" scale guitar and work with no other adjustments?

izzyizborn

01-22-2007, 08:20 PM

Jon, I've got a chance to get an Eastpoint Rocco for a nice price. My only concern is that it's a fixed bridge. Do you know if Joe N. will still retrofit a trem as a custom install?

Thanks,
Izzy

martyncrew

01-22-2007, 09:25 PM

Can those be simply bolted onto the body of a 25 1/2" scale guitar and work with no other adjustments?

Never tried it but that's how they are marketed

Crazyquilt

01-22-2007, 09:36 PM

Jon, I've got a chance to get an Eastpoint Rocco for a nice price. My only concern is that it's a fixed bridge. Do you know if Joe N. will still retrofit a trem as a custom install?

Thanks,
Izzy

I didn't think that Joe ever did that, and I'm fairly confident in saying, now that they're no longer making the USA guitars, that isn't possible at this point, anyway. But I'm sure that, if I'm wrong, Joe will chime in.

izzyizborn

01-22-2007, 10:10 PM

I didn't think that Joe ever did that, and I'm fairly confident in saying, now that they're no longer making the USA guitars, that isn't possible at this point, anyway. But I'm sure that, if I'm wrong, Joe will chime in.

The only reason I thought it possible was that I saw a listing on the 'bay in which the seller stated that the trem was factory installed after the initial assembly. As a result there was no finish in the rear cavity, or behind the bridge. The work/hardware looked legit also.

I think I'm going to grab it anyway, just curious to see if this was possible.

Thanks,
Izzy

Mike Duncan

01-23-2007, 07:00 AM

I believe Billy Corgan's Slingshot was a baritone or something with an extended neck.

trinian1

01-23-2007, 07:35 AM

I believe Billy Corgan's Slingshot was a baritone or something with an extended neck.

Yeah, that sounds right. I'm a bit of a Corgan fan--I know he was using Reverends, and I think I remember his saying in an interview somewhere that he had some baritone length Reverends (that maybe Joe built for him--Joe?) for his down-two-whole-steps tunings. Of course, when I saw him with Zwan 3 or 4 years ago, he used mostly Strats for the show, and I didn't know what Reverends were.:jo

Avenger

01-23-2007, 08:47 AM

Jon, I've got a chance to get an Eastpoint Rocco for a nice price. My only concern is that it's a fixed bridge. Do you know if Joe N. will still retrofit a trem as a custom install?

Thanks,
Izzy

Reverend did do retrofits in the past, but they no longer do it. I believe Joe Naylor has said that any competent tech should be able to handle the job.

Mike Duncan

01-23-2007, 12:41 PM

NAMM pictures...anyone?

mezcalhead

01-23-2007, 02:55 PM

IIRC it's the Bigsbys that can't be retrofitted because there isn't enough wood inside the body to fix them to.

Jon Silberman

01-23-2007, 04:25 PM

Reverend did do retrofits in the past, but they no longer do it. I believe Joe Naylor has said that any competent tech should be able to handle the job.

+1.

martyncrew

01-23-2007, 04:37 PM

IIRC it's the Bigsbys that can't be retrofitted because there isn't enough wood inside the body to fix them to.

...and the sustain bar is in the way

Crazyquilt

01-23-2007, 05:01 PM

OK -- it was the Bigsby's I was thinking of.

<Latella>Nevermind.</Latella>

ol' bugeyes

01-23-2007, 06:48 PM

thanks for the info glen, and props again to jon for the inspiration behind this thread. i honestly can't believe it's been 1 1/2 years.

Avenger

01-23-2007, 08:00 PM

...and the sustain bar is in the way

...and the neck is set higher in relation to the body on the Bigsby guitars.

Jon Silberman

01-24-2007, 06:01 AM

are Reverends the real deal? Can a $600 guitar deliver in terms of tone, playability and workmanship?

Also, what do you find the differences in the bolt on vs. the set neck models? The web site gives a pretty good explaination in terms of tone but, how about it feel and workmanship?

Absolutely and unequivocably yes. I can at this point afford whatever I want. My "player" axes include an '86 PRS Custom, a Godin LGX-SA, a Fender '52 RI, and more. By choice based on tone, playability, and ergodynamics, my "go to" axes are my three Revs.

Same differences as for any other bolt on versus set neck guitars. Personally, I lean towards the older, now-discontinued USA Revs but I've played a bunch of the imports, the quality control on them is as you'd expect from any Naylor product: excellent.

izzyizborn

01-24-2007, 06:18 AM

Thanks for the info, folks. The Rocco's been put aside for me - picking it up on Friday, I think.

Thanks,
Mike

ticohans

01-24-2007, 10:26 AM

Hey, any word on a NAMM report?

propellr

01-24-2007, 11:53 AM

Hey Reverend owners: Do you like apples?

propellr

01-24-2007, 11:55 AM

I just bought a NOS Slingshot!

How 'bout THEM apples?!

Jon Silberman

01-24-2007, 12:47 PM

I kinda like apples generally but man oh man do I like candy apple red! :dude

Jon Silberman

01-24-2007, 12:48 PM

I just bought a NOS Slingshot!

Well - where are the pix?! :D P.S. Congrats!

Jon Silberman

01-24-2007, 12:49 PM

Hey, any word on a NAMM report?

Yeah, we're definitely overdue.

Joe especially, when you're back and settled, if you could share your impressions of the show I'm sure we'd all appreciate hearing from you.

propellr

01-24-2007, 01:55 PM

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7df05b3127cce815d5a06f05f00000010601AcN2rdy5asT

Er, did I do this right?

propellr

01-24-2007, 01:57 PM

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7df05b3127cce815d5a06f05f00000016101AcN2rdy5asT

I'm going to get a tortoise shell pickguard for it.

Yep. I just ordered it. Tortoise shell pickguard, cream pickup covers, and, the oh-so-coveted cream toggle switch tip! Yeah, dog! I think these appointments will suit me a little more than the stock white.

Phillip_H

01-24-2007, 02:12 PM

IMO, blue with a silver mist guard and white pup covers is the look to have. I can't tell if that guard is white or silver...

propellr

01-24-2007, 03:29 PM

It's white on white now. Check out the Reverend site in the archives and go to Retro Pro Series and you can still hover over the models with different pickguards and colors. Pretty cool.

martyncrew

01-24-2007, 03:54 PM

I agree - you can't beat tortoiseshell on sky blue!

Crazyquilt

01-24-2007, 03:56 PM

I agree - you can't beat tortoiseshell on sky blue!

I agree wholeheartedly.

http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/images/remote/jazzmaster1.jpg

Rebel-Guitars

01-24-2007, 09:39 PM

NAMM '07

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev3.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev2.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev1.jpg

Rebel-Guitars

01-24-2007, 09:40 PM

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev4.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev5.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev6.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev7.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/rev8.jpg

Rebel-Guitars

01-24-2007, 09:50 PM

Fred_C

01-24-2007, 09:59 PM

What's up with the bridge pickups on the Buckshots?

Also a question for Joe, will we be seeing the fabled Reverend Twangdog, and maybe some other interesting lipstick pickup variations like a baritone and/or 12 string at summer NAMM? If so please drop a hint to keep me from buying a Jerry Jones bari in the meantime! Sorry to bust your chops, I know you're probably ready to take a rest after rolling out this huge new lineup, but I couldn't resist!

Fred_C

01-24-2007, 10:00 PM

And BTW thaks for the pics Wes, a wall of Reverends looks better than a wall of Marshalls to me!

Rebel-Guitars

01-24-2007, 10:01 PM

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture001-2.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/wesb14jr/Picture002-2.jpg

Couldn't resist.:)

Paul Conway

01-25-2007, 04:31 AM

I wasn't overly taken with the set neck guitars from the pics on the Rev site, but Wes' pics might change that. Hmmm. I have been finding that for the funk music I've been playing, my SS can sound a little thin....

Jon Silberman

01-25-2007, 05:58 AM

Great pics, Wes, thanks for sharing!

propellr

01-25-2007, 07:22 AM

I agree wholeheartedly.

http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/images/remote/jazzmaster1.jpg

That Jazzmaster would make Elvis Costello proud!

c-dub

01-25-2007, 07:51 AM

Ok, ok, I know I'm slacking. Got home Monday evening, literally got 3 hours of sleep, got up at 4:00am and drove close to 700 miles and picked up 6 pinball machines(my other hobby).

NAMM was fun, way crowded. Met a lot of celebs(if you're into that kind of stuff), got lots of autographs and pictures. I would have tried to get more individual Reverend pics, but everytime I walked by the booth, it was crowded and I didn't want to disturb/get in the way of business.

I did get my hands on some(I think I already posted this info-:messedup )

I really liked the 10th Anniversary, Volcano, and the Buckshot, but all of them looked great in person. I should have picked up one of the new T-shirts.

Joe, it was nice meeting you and I hope you had a good show.

Now, who wants to buy a pinball machine!

Hi all, newb here. I've got a black/silver Rocco with zebra PUs I've had 3-4 years, and I just recently bought Martyn's p-90 converted black cat on e-boink (#103). I also have a 70s Les Paul Deluxe Gold Top, a Carvin bass over six DN640 doubleneck, and my most recent pride and joy -- a mid-80s Carvin SH-225 semi-hollowbody.

Wes, I've noticed you moving a couple of engine turn Rev's on ebay. I was all set to bid on the ET rocco a few weeks ago but someone in Europe BIN'd it right from under me. The second one was a little too Frankenguitar for me. If you come across another, let me know.

Jon Silberman

01-25-2007, 08:27 AM

Welcome to TGP and the Rev Congregation, c-dub. Y'all come back now, hear?! :)

Rebel-Guitars

01-25-2007, 09:22 AM

Wes, I've noticed you moving a couple of engine turn Rev's on ebay. I was all set to bid on the ET rocco a few weeks ago but someone in Europe BIN'd it right from under me. The second one was a little too Frankenguitar for me. If you come across another, let me know.

It was a little to modded for me too, but still very cool. I love that finish, but it didn't go over well when it came out, so I don't think there's very many to choose from. Congrats on getting Martyn's guitar, I know it will be cool. Keep a check here and if I find something cool, I'll post a picture of it here.

A42

01-25-2007, 09:31 AM

What's up with the bridge pickups on the Buckshots?
Just noticed that myself -- they're backwards!

Jon Silberman

01-25-2007, 09:41 AM

Another Buckshot question: is a minihum a direct drop-in replacement for a RevTron and, if not, will the rout nevertheless accomodate a mini-hum?

Jeeves

01-25-2007, 10:28 AM

This should be an easy question:
What's your suggestion for a first-time Reverend buyer?? I play mostly tele's (and acoustics) and always play clean; mainly jazzy-folky fingerstyle stuff. My amp is a Cube-60.

I don't need another guitar but I can't stop looking at these Reverend's because I want something with soapbar pickups. I like the looks of the Charger and Club King 290. Any ideas?

And I don't mean to sound irreverent but how can these guitars be any good and be so inexpensive?

Secret Ingredient

01-25-2007, 11:43 AM

And I don't mean to sound irreverent but how can these guitars be any good and be so inexpensive?

I'm finding more often that the selling price of something in many cases has little to do with the cost of producing it. Take a telecaster for instance. Basic body shape, no forearm or belly cuts. two single coil pickups, and minimal electronics. POS stamped steel tailpiece. It's as simple as an electric guitar can get. You can buy them cheap, or you can pay thousands. I honestly don't believe the cost to produce an inexpensive one versus a high end unit is all that different. Sure, more artisan type work goes into a nicer one, but $1k - $2k more? I doubt it. Joe Naylor is obviously an expert on production costs. Maybe I'm way off, but I think it's totally possible to make a nice electric guitar for the prices these instruments are going for.

I do notice a few things: One, the number of options for any particular instrument is fairly low. Reverend has to stock fewer items, and what they do buy they can negotiate better deals.

Reverend is not using solid figured maple tops for the maple topped instruments. You can make a lot more guitars out of an expensive hunk of curly maple if it's cut into veneer. Nothing wrong with that.

NONE of the instruments AFAIK have a carved top or body contouring (ie forearm and belly cuts). Could be wrong, but I think the limited finish options and the flat tops make a big differrence in cost. Also, the trem and non trem bodies are identical.

Number one cost saver: overseas manufacture.

CORRECTION: the real cost saver is the name on the headstock. If it said Gibson, Fender or PRS, you would probably pay more.

ticohans

01-25-2007, 12:25 PM

ticohans

01-25-2007, 12:26 PM

CORRECTION: the real cost saver is the name on the headstock. If it said Gibson, Fender or PRS, you would probably pay more.

Amen to that. Thank goodness Joe isn't as interested in name-brand markups! :dude

Secret Ingredient

01-25-2007, 01:06 PM

SwirlCrazy makes some great points with regards to keeping production costs low. That said, I want to respond to the notion that tele costs should be low because it's such a simple build. No doubt there are some VERY over-priced guitars out there, not just tele body styles. With that said, for as simple as the body shape is, more often than not, the higher-end guitars are made from much nicer pieces of wood. It's one thing to use any old slab of wood versus some really nice, light, resonant swamp ash. And beyond that, the cosmetic appeal of certain grain patters is deemed desirable by some players. Due to the limited supply of such woods, these things increase the price of raw materials to the manufacturer, and thus the consumer sees higher prices, too. Not saying that it's worth the extra cash to get the super-duper flame - different strokes for different folks.

I think you are right. Hence Reverend's use of solid finishes over tone woods like spruce that are not used extensively for electric guitars, and veneer for some of the clear tops. The process of routing out the body as a unit and then attaching the flat top has to be a very efficient way of machining it. Benefit is a chambered body made from solid wood (not plywood) at an attractive price. Nice work Reverend!

Jon Silberman

01-25-2007, 01:40 PM

+1 on the spruce tops being solid spruce tops, not veneer or ply.

martyncrew

01-25-2007, 02:39 PM

Have you guys noticed that Jon is showing some love for the imports these days? How long can he hold out? :AOK

trinian1

01-25-2007, 02:57 PM

Wes, thanks for pics from NAMM--good stuff. You said you got your hands on a few of the new models--how'd they play and sound? You've had more Rev's pass through your hands in the last few months than lots of us have seen or heard--how do the newest models (especially the set necks) stack up to either the US models or the older imports (or in the case of the set necks, how do they stack up to the guitars they're based on?)?

Jon Silberman

01-25-2007, 03:20 PM

Have you guys noticed that Jon is showing some love for the imports these days? How long can he hold out? :AOK

LOL! I was wondering how long it would take for that to show!

Yes, I am coming around to the fact that while cash is nonexistent at the present, over the long term, resistance to import Revs is futile. :o

Glenn_K

01-25-2007, 06:46 PM

Have you guys noticed that Jon is showing some love for the imports these days? How long can he hold out? :AOK

Yeah, I was noticing too. :-)

Avenger

01-25-2007, 08:09 PM

Thanks for the pics, Wes. I'm really struck by how cool the Warhawk II 390 in alpine green looks.

Avenger

01-25-2007, 08:13 PM

LOL! I was wondering how long it would take for that to show!

Yes, I am coming around to the fact that while cash is nonexistent at the present, over the long term, resistance to import Revs is futile. :o

What's going to be the first one, Jon? A Buckshot?

Paul Conway

01-26-2007, 02:11 AM

SwirlCrazy makes some great points with regards to keeping production costs low. That said, I want to respond to the notion that tele costs should be low because it's such a simple build. No doubt there are some VERY over-priced guitars out there, not just tele body styles. With that said, for as simple as the body shape is, more often than not, the higher-end guitars are made from much nicer pieces of wood. It's one thing to use any old slab of wood versus some really nice, light, resonant swamp ash. And beyond that, the cosmetic appeal of certain grain patters is deemed desirable by some players. Due to the limited supply of such woods, these things increase the price of raw materials to the manufacturer, and thus the consumer sees higher prices, too. Not saying that it's worth the extra cash to get the super-duper flame - different strokes for different folks.

Agreed. Why is a US Fender Tele priced the same as a US strat, which is a much more complicated build? I really appreciate the fact that Reverends seem priced according to complexity of build and number/cost of components. That's an honest approach to business, that I appreciate. Re: wood - All players want is a good-sounding bit of wood that's a reasonable weight, IMHO. I don't give a fig about flame tops, etc. But to get a grade of wood that makes a difference, you're often talking Suhr, Anderson prices. Below that, I don't think anyone can really say the extra expense over a Rev is really worth it. Fair comment?

Jon Silberman

01-26-2007, 04:18 AM

What's going to be the first one, Jon? A Buckshot?
This is getting scary - you guys really know me! :eek: :D

White/maple neck. ;)

propellr

01-26-2007, 05:51 AM

Agreed. Why is a US Fender Tele priced the same as a US strat, which is a much more complicated build? I really appreciate the fact that Reverends seem priced according to complexity of build and number/cost of components. That's an honest approach to business, that I appreciate. Re: wood - All players want is a good-sounding bit of wood that's a reasonable weight, IMHO. I don't give a fig about flame tops, etc. But to get a grade of wood that makes a difference, you're often talking Suhr, Anderson prices. Below that, I don't think anyone can really say the extra expense over a Rev is really worth it. Fair comment?

It's all about value, you're right. The gray area is in "helping" consumers figure out what is the best value. When you can do that, you can have a foothold in industry. Reverend is carving out a market (we're all hoping) based on offering something familiar along with something different, and is also hoping to change players' ideas about what is a good value. Joe Naylor is driving a pretty hard bargain, I think. I think builders like Anderson have prices like they do because they are offering familiar products (Fender style electric guitars) together with appointments and finishes not offered by Fender. I think more cost goes into staffing than parts, but these builders don't have the buying power of say, Fender and Gibson, either. I think Anderson and the like have taken opportunity to fill a niche' in the market, too... offer something familiar and something different at the same time. Since collectors and players want style and playability and quality and beauty AND will shell out for vintage stuff, small companies can offer guitars that are priced significantly less than vintage instruments and significantly more than "regular" American-built production models. When they have to pay more for tone woods or figured woods, it's because they are buying less of it or because their distributors are also filling niches in their own markets (competing with other distributors for the business of small luthier companies). Anderson and others are operating as custom shops, only with higher relative operating costs.

ticohans

01-26-2007, 07:03 AM

Yikes!!! Has anyone seen this auction on the 'bay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Reverend-Warhawk-NoReserve-Mint-Condition-sunburst_W0QQitemZ270082748352QQihZ017QQcategoryZ2 384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

A USA Warhawk?!?! I don't think this guy is trying to screw anyone, my guess is he's simply misinformed. Still... that $450 bid on the instrument right now is due to the fact that someone thinks its a USA. I just sent him a comment, letting him know that it's not USA, that NO Warhawks were made in the USA. I hope no one here is bidding on it...

ticohans

01-26-2007, 07:07 AM

Speaking of Korean Rev's, my current wish list includes the following:

Cream/Maple Buckshot, with the hope that a mini-HB or P90 could fit the Revtron route

Gold/Maple Gil Parris - I'm not really a fan of the gold finish, just a sucker for maple necks

Sunburst Warhawk 390 - wow that's a hot guitar. I like the black P90's a lot, but I wonder if cream color would have been better

c-dub

01-26-2007, 07:33 AM

Hi all, newb here. I've got a black/silver Rocco with zebra PUs I've had 3-4 years, and I just recently bought Martyn's p-90 converted black cat on e-boink (#103). I also have a 70s Les Paul Deluxe Gold Top, a Carvin bass over six DN640 doubleneck, and my most recent pride and joy -- a mid-80s Carvin SH-225 semi-hollowbody.

Wes, I've noticed you moving a couple of engine turn Rev's on ebay. I was all set to bid on the ET rocco a few weeks ago but someone in Europe BIN'd it right from under me. The second one was a little too Frankenguitar for me. If you come across another, let me know.

I should point out I also have a Jetstream 390 in the discontinued black/tortiose shell. It's an awesome guitar. I have to say the right now I like the neck on it better than my Eastpoint Rocco (Sacrilege!). These Korean Revs are really well done; I'm talking them up to everyone but no one seems to believe me until they hear it or play it, and even then they are skeptical despite how good it sounds and plays (which is a defense mechanism becuase it is hard to admit to yourself that your $2500 guitar doesnt really feel or sound any better than a $600 Rev.)

But I'm toying with the idea selling it after I just got Martyn's P-90 Black Cat, as unfortunately I only have two hands and can only play one guitar at a time. I also have a 7month old so the "at a time" is very limited:p

ticohans

01-26-2007, 07:37 AM

Hey C-Dub, thanks for sharing your impressions of the Korean versus US Rev's. First hand user reports like yours are always the most useful!

A42

01-26-2007, 09:07 AM

Agreed. Why is a US Fender Tele priced the same as a US strat, which is a much more complicated build? I really appreciate the fact that Reverends seem priced according to complexity of build and number/cost of components.
I agree that a Strat should be priced lower as a Tele has WAY more mojo. :)

Seriously, the "price point" is what it is. You see it to some degree in the Rev lineup as well. A Warkhawk 390, for example, costs the same as a WH 290. They both cost the same as a Daredevil HB or 290 even though the Warhawk is (or maybe it isn't, I'm guessing here) a slightly more complicated build. Sunburst finishes cost the same as solid colors, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't want a situation where you had a $25 upcharge for this, $14.95 for that, etc. Too much like buying a car.

mbrown3

01-26-2007, 09:34 AM

Anderson and others are operating as custom shops, only with higher relative operating costs.

There are two other issues, in my experience. One is that Anderson and other similar builders like Suhr, Melancon, etc. offer something unique, some "platform" that makes their guitars what they are, where you can pick one up and/or plug it in and say "that's an Anderson" (or whatever). The other issue is consistency. You can play one strat or tele and it sounds great, then pick up another with exactly the same specs and it sounds...and plays...like crap. Every Anderson (and other respectable builder's) that I've played has the same attention to quality as every other. Specific spec choices aside, they're all consistent in their quality. You can't get that with a Fender or a Gibson...

propellr

01-26-2007, 10:11 AM

There are two other issues, in my experience. One is that Anderson and other similar builders like Suhr, Melancon, etc. offer something unique, some "platform" that makes their guitars what they are, where you can pick one up and/or plug it in and say "that's an Anderson" (or whatever). The other issue is consistency. You can play one strat or tele and it sounds great, then pick up another with exactly the same specs and it sounds...and plays...like crap. Every Anderson (and other respectable builder's) that I've played has the same attention to quality as every other. Specific spec choices aside, they're all consistent in their quality. You can't get that with a Fender or a Gibson...

Right. I agree.

Jon Silberman

01-26-2007, 10:15 AM

I agree that a Strat should be priced lower as a Tele has WAY more mojo. :).

LOL! You're my kinda guy, A42. :dude (Although I do love my Avenger - it led me to sell my USA Buddy Guy Signature Strat!).

On a serious note, with CNC machines and the like, these days, the actual cost differences are probably nominal.

Jon Silberman

01-26-2007, 10:53 AM

Hey guys, thought I'd mention, so any newcomers who might click on the first page for starters see some cool pics right away, I went back to my first post and updated the pictures with currently-in-effect URLs.

Gotta keep up to date!

P.S. I realize that it would not be right to keep the Rev logo up front without Joe's express OK, I've emailed him about that.

c-dub

01-26-2007, 02:02 PM

Hey C-Dub, thanks for sharing your impressions of the Korean versus US Rev's. First hand user reports like yours are always the most useful!

No prob. I guess the only problem with my analysis is I really should have a SSC to compare it to, but some of the guys on the rev board have noted they have JS390s they use so their prized SSCs can stay safe at home.

I went home for lunch and played this guitar some more and liked it even better. Satin neck feels great and effortless. P90s and bass rolloff are a dream. I raised the bridge P90 up as high as reasonable for more output, and have my tube amp set right on the edge of breakup. With the pickup selector, I can go from clean funky quack at 2 and 4 to nice Townsend P-90 grind on the fly, while saving the lead channel for solo oomph. I'm getting good at fine tuning the bass rolloff on the fly too, its really fun to play with. Bridge and middle P90s do get a little muddy with the bass all on, but I like it bass all on when I'm getting "natural" break up at the bridge position.

The only thing I would say on the HB Korean Revs is I would rather have coil splitters like a Rocco rather than just the bass rolloff, as I usually play split rhythm on the neck PU and HB mode on bridge. I imagine I couldnt do that on the fly, and change the selector too.

To me, Korean made dont seem as resonant acoustically or plugged as a phenolic USA, but they're still pretty damn good.