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Jon Silberman
01-17-2006, 12:46 PM
FYI

Just got an email back from Pickguard Heaven - they say they don't have a Slingshot template yet.
I'm sorry, Paul, I thought theY did.

Jon Silberman
01-17-2006, 12:47 PM
http://www.pickguardian.com/pickguardian/

Tony at Pickguardian made me a Gretsch inspired guard for my orange Wolfman. He does great work, gets it back to you quickly, and stands behind what he builds for you.

Mike
Mike, CONGRATS ON NUMBER 1000!!!!!!!!!!!! :BEER

Crazyquilt
01-17-2006, 01:11 PM
http://www.pickguardian.com/pickguardian/

Tony at Pickguardian made me a Gretsch inspired guard for my orange Wolfman. He does great work, gets it back to you quickly, and stands behind what he builds for you.

Mike, did you have to send your pickguard out to Tony, or did you do a tracing, or did he already have a template?

Glenn_K
01-17-2006, 01:20 PM
Hey at this rate, this thread may overtake the FDP version.

This calls for some Reverend talk. Jammed/Rehearsed/played with my Kingsnake head and Eminance Wizard in a Reverend 1 X 12. Played in Lo-Fi mode all afternoon. Sounded real good. Started off in UK, but felt it was a little too brittle (but will try again). This was with the 6 piece band, so it's a challenge to get the right tones to cut through. Used my orange Avenger w/Hipshot, which reminded me how much I love this trem.

Mike Duncan
01-17-2006, 07:45 PM
CQ - Yes, I did have to send the guard to Tony to insure the best fit.

Thank you Jon! I couldn't have hit the 1000 mark with everyone! (Said in Academy Award acceptance speech voice.)

Mike

Crazyquilt
01-17-2006, 07:49 PM
I figured, Mike. Thanks. :)

And congratulations!

Glenn_K
01-17-2006, 07:50 PM
Opinions on the new Retro Pro series? I'll go first. Looks nice to me, although I have to admit to being disappointed there aren't any wilder colors.

Mike Duncan
01-17-2006, 07:55 PM
Glenn, your Orange Reverend with the Hipshot is hands down my favorite Reverend I've come across.

Mike Duncan
01-17-2006, 07:59 PM
Glenn, you must have the best browser on the market. I just keep getting site not responding messages...DARN!!

Glenn_K
01-17-2006, 08:03 PM
Mac OS X and Safari :AOK

Crazyquilt
01-17-2006, 08:29 PM
I'm getting it with Firefox.


I like the tortie or moto pickguards. I'd be quite happy with a sky blue SS with a tortie pg & a Bigsby...well, except I've already got a SSC that I'm quite happy with. :)

Jon Silberman
01-18-2006, 06:05 AM
While I wish Joe nothing but the best why would anyone pay $1200 for a new one plus case when you can cop an older one (with neck carve choices) for less than half of that?

Crazyquilt
01-18-2006, 06:18 AM
How is that different from nearly any other new/used gear? The comparison between new & used may be better in some cases, but, on pure cost, aren't new guitars always going to lose out to used ones?

Jon Silberman
01-18-2006, 06:29 AM
You may be right about that, CQ.

Though the key difference with the USA Revs that come to my mind is that because they're phenolic or aluminum and the necks are all the same, to me, the two primary reasons that historically have prompted me to buy new guitars over used (woods and carves) are non-factors with Reverend guitars.

Plus, there truly is a very significant (>50%) cost difference between new and used for Revs right now (though that could change in the future).

But maybe it's just me.

Glenn_K
01-18-2006, 06:44 AM
I've gone new because of A: color choices and options, B: I like them fresh and clean

Jon Silberman
01-18-2006, 07:05 AM
You like your guitars as I like my women and fish. ;)

martyncrew
01-18-2006, 07:18 AM
You like your guitars as I like my women and fish. ;)

Well, that would be old and grungy in my case! There's nothing I like better than rescuing an old guitar. In fact, Revs have been the only "modern" I've ever bought into, other than them I'm strictly oldies and cheapies like my parts-a-caster Teles and my Ibanez Lawsuit LP.

Martyn

Mike Duncan
01-18-2006, 07:36 AM
I had to come into work to finally see the pictures on the site, dial-up/AOL didn't seem to approve. They look good and I agree with Glenn, I like the new-ness of the freshly ordered models. But some of that comes down to luck - Jon, IMHO, has had excellent luck with his purchases. I've had the chance to play each of Jon's Revs and they are superb guitars and in fantastic shape - with the exception of his Avenger, which is like a vibe filled Reverend Relic.

Avenger
01-18-2006, 08:47 AM
I'm glad to see that the USA Reverends will live on. I also like the new pickguards. I've always liked tortoise gruards. All of the colors look cool with the tortiose guard IMO.

On the price issue, I'd say the price is the price is the price. There is certainly nothing we can do about it. In the end if you have the money and you think the guitar is worth the price you will buy one. I don't think it is too high for the quality of the guitar. They have been way underpriced compared to guitars of similar quality ($1099 is more than a new Richenbacker 330, though) Will I buy a new one? Probably not. I'm very happy with my Avenger and fairly satisfied with my other guitars right now. I wouldn't mind trying out a guitar with a trem, but a Stage King series purchase would be better for that kind of an experiment for me.

BTW I'm fairly intrigued by the replacement pickguard idea. I forsee not playing my Hotshot very much in its present form. Maybe a new pickguard with some Duncan mini-humbuckers in it would be cool.

Paul Conway
01-18-2006, 09:05 AM
I'm sorry, Paul, I thought theY did.

No worries, mate. I'll live.

mezcalhead
01-18-2006, 11:54 AM
I'm glad the US models are still around, as I said earlier. I won't be buying another at the moment as the two Revs I have are enough for me right now, but if I wanted to in the future I wouldn't let the price put me off.

My only slight reservation is that I don't think the sandblasting looks its best on a grey aluminium background. Otherwise, the Retro Pro line works well for me.

Jon Silberman
01-18-2006, 12:00 PM
I really appreciate having the US program resurrected as well AND don't feel the new prices are outrageous. Just want to make that clear. My concern over the pricing is not based on "value gotten for dollar spent" but simply on the market-based realities that flow from the current pricing on eBay and elsewhere of used Revs.

Paul Conway
01-18-2006, 12:37 PM
Oh well.....

I guess you pay what you can afford to. I can't reasonably justify a $1200 guitar which isn't all that different to my SS right now, but never mind - that's economics. It's a shame that the phenolic stuff has gone up by so much in recent years (oh, for an SSC...), but the import stuff looks very appealing. If there was one criticism I'd level at the US guitars is that I'd prefer more midrange. Maybe the wooden bodies will remedy that..

The one thing I wish they still made was the Drivetrain 2. I'm very reluctant to take mine gigging, due to it's irreplaceability. I've substituted a Zoom Power Drive and a Bad Monkey - good substitutes but not the same, sadly.

Jon Silberman
01-18-2006, 02:53 PM
If there was one criticism I'd level at the US guitars is that I'd prefer more midrange. Maybe the wooden bodies will remedy that..

I think they absolutely will, e.g., when I compare the mid-range response of my Z90s in my Godin LGX-SA and Reverend Rocco, while they sound awesome in both axes, there's so much more mids from the Godin.

The one thing I wish they still made was the Drivetrain 2. I'm very reluctant to take mine gigging, due to it's irreplaceability. I've substituted a Zoom Power Drive and a Bad Monkey - good substitutes but not the same, sadly.

I agree. That DT II flat out rocks! Joe, if you're reading this - good God, man, bring it back!!!!!!!!

Glenn_K
01-18-2006, 02:57 PM
I'm not as wild on the DTII. I've tried to get into it a few times and believe it's a good pedal, but has a certain harshness I wish weren't there.

Avenger
01-18-2006, 05:42 PM
If there was one criticism I'd level at the US guitars is that I'd prefer more midrange. Maybe the wooden bodies will remedy that..

I think more midrange is exactly what you'd get. I seem to recall earlier in the thread (or maybe on another forum) Beth compared a Flatrock to a Wolfman and she concluded the Flatrock had more midrange, but the Wolfman had more zing.

I'm not as wild on the DTII. I've tried to get into it a few times and believe it's a good pedal, but has a certain harshness I wish weren't there.

I don't hear harshness, though my experience with overdrives is a little limited. Compared to the Boss Bluesdriver I used to have the DTII is extremely smooth and fat to my ears.

Jon Silberman
01-18-2006, 06:31 PM
Glenn, did the one you heard have the 470 pf cap mod per the Rev Tech Bulletin? The ones without it arguably are harsh but with it they're SHWEET! :dude

Mike Duncan
01-18-2006, 06:35 PM
I'm with you Jon, I'd love for Joe to put the DriveTrain back in production. Hands down, it's my favorite pedal. I can't believe how it can go from silky smooth to super crunchy.

Glenn_K
01-18-2006, 08:38 PM
Jon, hey what do you know!! It's my Drivetrain II and I just checked to see if I have the mod, and I don't. Maybe I should do it? That must be why it sounds harsh to me. I wonder if Reverend will still do it for me for $20 like it says on the tech note.

Jon Silberman
01-19-2006, 05:51 AM
I sent my own early version into Reverend to have it done. I definitely think it's worth the postage. If the tech bulletin is still up on the site you have to asssume they're still accepting pedals for modification (the actual work takes just a minute or two if you know what you're doing).

john1056
01-19-2006, 07:57 AM
Jon, hey what do you know!! It's my Drivetrain II and I just checked to see if I have the mod, and I don't. Maybe I should do it? That must be why it sounds harsh to me. I wonder if Reverend will still do it for me for $20 like it says on the tech note.

It's super easy to do. I can do it for you if you want for free.

Paul Conway
01-19-2006, 09:22 AM
I love the DT2. It's just near-perfectly voiced.

Paul Conway
01-19-2006, 10:05 AM
This might be a bit of a reach, but has anyone got any opinions on spruce vs maple topped guitars? I know what the website says, but I've only ever come across spruce on acoustics.....

Paul Conway
01-19-2006, 10:16 AM
...and the last of today's trilogy: does anyone but me think that the pearl/tortoise guards on the new US guitars look a bit, well, out of place on a Rev? I just think they detract a little from that crazy 60's plastic guitar aesthetic. If I were Rev MD (quite apart from the insane amount of freebies I'd score), I'd be going for gold , white, black and silver guards.

john1056
01-19-2006, 10:40 AM
...and the last of today's trilogy: does anyone but me think that the pearl/tortoise guards on the new US guitars look a bit, well, out of place on a Rev? I just think they detract a little from that crazy 60's plastic guitar aesthetic. If I were Rev MD (quite apart from the insane amount of freebies I'd score), I'd be going for gold , white, black and silver guards.

I guess it's to each their own. I think the white/white, and black/tortise look really sweet. I've often thought, looking at some of the old models on Ebay, that some of the old color combos (red/gold etc.) were sharper than what was being offered (before the new retro line).

Glenn_K
01-19-2006, 01:15 PM
John, thanks for the offer on the DT mod--very nice of you. Might take you up on it, although since Reverend is offering free shipping back, that helps too. I'll make a decision in the next few days.

Paul, I'm undecided about the tortoise shell/pearl look too. I've not usually a fan of it. The Retro Pro series seem to be a throwback of the oldest of the Reverend line. But I'm open. Right now, one of nicest looking models available is the Rick Vito Standard in my opinion. The Retro Pro series has a nice cohesive look that sits well in the line, but I would really like to see a WILD retro. Orange/Green/Purple, stuff like that. But possibly that just doesn't sell and with only 4 colors...

The colors are nice.. I mean who can argue with white, red or black? And I still don't have a red Reverend. I guess I just love it when somebody dares to shout out loud with color. When Reverend brought out those 60's auto based orange and green colors, I was all over it.

The thing about the tortoise shell guards is it says "traditional" to me. So there is a bringing together of traditional and non-traditional design. Good or bad?

Crazyquilt
01-19-2006, 02:04 PM
Slingshot. Sky blue. Tortoise. Cream pickup plates. Bigsby.

:cool:

Paul Conway
01-19-2006, 02:09 PM
Green - yup!

I guess sparkles are too difficult to do on phenolic, but on wood.....

I'd also like to see ocean turquoise...

martyncrew
01-19-2006, 02:48 PM
I love the tortoise look! First thing that will happen to my "new" SS with Bigsby will be a tortoise pg upgrade

Glenn_K
01-19-2006, 02:58 PM
Ok, pay up guys. Order! My next one will be the Jetstream 390.

Jon Silberman
01-19-2006, 06:17 PM
eBay alert - Eastpoint Slingshot.

Seller is some dude with a strange-sounding name, martyncrew or something like that. ;)

Item number: 7383218158http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif

But even stranger is some cheap-ass by the name of mgduncan342 bid a whole 6 cents for it. :D

Glenn_K
01-19-2006, 06:50 PM
ha ha. We're our own competition. Mike, stop drivin' the price up, I was hoping to get it for 5 cents!!

Mike Duncan
01-19-2006, 06:58 PM
I thought that I could easily convince my darling wife that this was a true bargin and I must act quickly!

Mike Duncan
01-19-2006, 06:59 PM
I mean, I don't know who that mgduncan342 joker is!

Jon Silberman
01-19-2006, 06:59 PM
LOL! (Really!!!)

Crazyquilt
01-19-2006, 07:53 PM
Hmmmmm. Interesting. Let's see...it could take the next phase of its life as an all-black SSC with a maple neck.

:D

Jon Silberman
01-22-2006, 07:09 AM
Hey, Rev Bro's - what's new? :BluesBros

martyncrew
01-22-2006, 03:04 PM
No offence intended....but what a mess

http://cgi.ebay.com/Reverend-Hellhound-40-60-All-Tube-guitar-HEAD_W0QQitemZ7384365473QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mike Duncan
01-22-2006, 04:38 PM
Anyone seen any pictures from NAMM of the Reverend booth? I have yet to see anything.

portsider
01-22-2006, 04:41 PM
No offence intended....but what a mess

http://cgi.ebay.com/Reverend-Hellhound-40-60-All-Tube-guitar-HEAD_W0QQitemZ7384365473QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I see that as something I would try to restore if I got it cheap. He is asking close to top dollar, good luck.:eek:

Jon Silberman
01-22-2006, 06:52 PM
"Oh please, Mr. Ebayer - don't turn me into anything unnatural!" :eek:

http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/05/76/98_1.JPG

martyncrew
01-22-2006, 08:53 PM
At least he didn't name it

Mike Duncan
01-23-2006, 07:41 AM
So no luck with Reverend pix from NAMM?

Jon Silberman
01-23-2006, 07:54 AM
Nothing yet that I'm aware of!

This sucks, we need to ask Joe to sponsor (via a pass only, not financially) one of us to accompany him to NAMM to serve as forum reporter/photographer.

Paul Conway
01-24-2006, 10:30 AM
I don't know about you lot, but I'm now thinking I should have hocked all my (non-Reverend) wordly possessions to get that all-black SSC I coveted for several months.....oh well....and of course, a matching Rocco....dammit!

Goodbye, sweet phenolic!

Paul Conway
01-24-2006, 10:35 AM
A thought: I spent ages convincing myself to try a non-wood guitar. Now, I've gotta convince myself to try a non-phenolic Rev. Weird....

Glenn_K
01-24-2006, 10:37 AM
Goodbye, sweet phenolic!

sung to the tune of... something

Paul Conway
01-24-2006, 11:14 AM
sung to the tune of... something

Don't worry - if it's me singing, you're in no danger of a tune.

SFK
01-24-2006, 01:53 PM
I don't know about you lot, but I'm now thinking I should have hocked all my (non-Reverend) wordly possessions to get that all-black SSC I coveted for several months.....oh well....and of course, a matching Rocco....dammit!

Goodbye, sweet phenolic!


I may know where you can get one of those. A very nice one. I wouldn't be posting this if I could swing it myself. PM me for details.

Mike Duncan
01-25-2006, 07:27 AM
Okay, I've searched every NAMM '06 coverage site that I could find and have yet to see anything about Reverend guitars. My quest has ended with, what we say at my job, "negative results".

Jon Silberman
01-25-2006, 09:33 AM
Mike, I'm serious about potentialy seeking a pass for next year's show specifically to "cover" the Reverend site and developments and post commentary and pics on relevant forums (heck, I'd even make an exception and post again on the FDP for that :eek: :D ).

Mike Duncan
01-25-2006, 11:42 AM
I would be up for that in a heartbeat! I've got a friend or two on the inside that can get passes, just need to get out to LA.

Paul Conway
01-26-2006, 12:15 PM
Guess you've probably all seen this already over in FDP. That Charger is looking nice.....
http://www.allstarguitarnight.com/pages/notesFromTheShow.html

Jon Silberman
01-26-2006, 01:44 PM
Gil Parris is a monster guitarist, he mixes up jazz with other styles (like country) as well as anyone these days (super nice person, too).

Mike Duncan
01-26-2006, 07:07 PM
http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/0e/e9/4b_1.JPG

This is one of the earliest I've seen...on eBay as we speak.

martyncrew
01-26-2006, 09:38 PM
I've got the Black Cat version - really nice Rev. Mine has an earlier sn (00103) but has a string thru bridge. Makes me wonder if this one is all original - anyone know when Reverend cut over to string thru bridges?

BTW, the FDP is buzzing

Crazyquilt
01-26-2006, 10:01 PM
Yeah ... lots of really positive stuff from new Stage King owners. Folks seem to be very impressed, which is great to hear.

portsider
01-27-2006, 04:25 AM
I've got the Black Cat version - really nice Rev. Mine has an earlier sn (00103) but has a string thru bridge. Makes me wonder if this one is all original - anyone know when Reverend cut over to string thru bridges?

BTW, the FDP is buzzing
I briefly owned Slingshot #215 which was a top loader. Steve at Reverend also told me it started life as a Spy. I know Reverend used to offer string-through conversion.

Jon Silberman
01-27-2006, 06:49 AM
I have to admit, when it comes to Rev guitars, I feel now like an old codger in his original Model T being passed on the road by the shiny new Buicks. I played all of the new Stage Kings at the Philly show. They're nice but they just don't move me like the USAs. I'm glad to see the USAs back on the Rev website even with the significant price increases.

In an unrelated vein, the final two custom parts for my Garcia tribute guitar shipped to Phil Jacoby (the luthier who's assembling/finishing it) yesterday so with a little luck, I'll have something new that's utterly creative and unique to report on in just about a week. :)

P.S. to Mike Duncan: What's going on by you, it seems like everywhere I look in cyberspace these days I come across a new thread where you're jonesing for another axe?!

Mike Duncan
01-27-2006, 07:18 AM
I think the problem is that I've been relagated to "desk work" and I have too much access to the internet. I need to get back on the street and avoid the 'net.

It's just a cry for help...

Avenger
01-28-2006, 09:28 AM
I'm curious whether there is any significant tonal difference between the string-though and the top load bridge. Some of those very early Reverends seem to be quite a bargain.

frtzl
01-28-2006, 10:27 AM
Brothers and Sisters... I need some Reverend advice. I am relocating to Europe, I have already gotten my amp and Advanced Rocco over there, but I'm back in the US taking care of my final shipping issues. Here's a crux issue: do I ship my Slingshot over?

I'll be moving in with my girlfriend, so I don't have unlimited space, and since we're in a condo I can't crank things up that much anyway. I will have my Rocco, a good amp, and my acoustic. Since I won't be gigging or teaching, do I need 2 electrics?

For the record, the Slingshot in question has been seen in Jon S.'s NoVA Guitar Jam photos:

2002 Slingshot
Revsby Trem
Phase switch
Glossy Aged Yellow (apparenly the glossies are rare!)

I would feel really guilty storing this with my tax paperwork at my parent's house. I would feel similarly outted as a hack in Norway having two electrics and barely being able to hold my own with one!

The Rocco is a very good axe, and can get a variety of sounds, and so is the Slingshot (P90s are a parennial favorite). The SS was built to order for me but I got the Rocco from the Demos bin in woodgrain. I haven't as totally bonded with the Rocco as with the SS, but it does cover more sonic ground with the HBs and bass cut.

So, Rabbi, what do you think? Store it, sell it, or ship it?
Fritz

portsider
01-28-2006, 10:30 AM
I'm curious whether there is any significant tonal difference between the string-though and the top load bridge. Some of those very early Reverends seem to be quite a bargain.

When I had my top loader, I thought it sounded a little more airy. It also gave a different feel bending notes, a bit easier to control. The old neck did not seem as nice as either the Eastpointe or current carves it felt "funny".
I am planning to go for the one pictured above unless the price gets stupid.

Mike Duncan
01-28-2006, 10:51 AM
Carry it on the plane Fritz...when I moved to Belgium in the '90s, I put a Fender amp in a suitcase and surrounded it with clothes. I carried my Strat in it's case on the plane. I guess it may have been easier in a pre 911 day and age.

Norway huh? Sounds cool, I haven't made it up to that neck of the woods yet. Have a great time!

Mike

frtzl
01-28-2006, 11:17 AM
Mike,
I'll be carrying my accoustic on. Since I already have the Rocco in Oslo (sounds like a band name), the SS either goes by boat or stays in the USA.

F

martyncrew
01-28-2006, 11:21 AM
Terry - I agree with Portsider. the top-loaders do feel more airy and the lower string tension does help with bends. I have the original Reverend top-loader bridge (with the funky "L" shaped" saddles) on Avenger 00058 and it gives the guitar a "slack" feel and sound.

martyncrew
01-28-2006, 11:23 AM
Just got back from Montreal and picking up daPhil's Black SS w/Bigsby. Very cool person and guitar - just not enough jangle for Philippe's taste. I brought the guitar back as checked baggage (hardcase, well-packed inside a box) without any issues.

Mike Duncan
01-28-2006, 03:14 PM
The Jetstream 390 is the only guitar from the off shore gang that was of any interest and it's already evolving. No more Sperzels and no more orange. I have no experience with the Wilkenson (sp?) tuners...but I really thought the oranger was pretty cool.

:mad:


http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/jetstream_390.html

Jon Silberman
01-28-2006, 03:22 PM
FWIW, Mike, that 3-tone burst is gorgeous, it truly is!

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/stage_king_series/hi_res/jetstream_390_3burst_big.jpg

Jon Silberman
01-28-2006, 03:25 PM
For the record, the Slingshot in question has been seen in Jon S.'s NoVA Guitar Jam photos:

2002 Slingshot
Revsby Trem
Phase switch
Glossy Aged Yellow (apparenly the glossies are rare!)

It is a beaut!

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682310/5156619/65767376.jpg

FWIW, I would either take it or lend it to a trusted friend (and no, I'm not seeking it for myself, I have no room here for any more axes right now!). Either way, someone will be watching out for it, changing the strings, adjusting the neck when necessary, etc. If it were me I'd be quite hesitant to leave it unattended in a storage unit.

portsider
01-28-2006, 03:50 PM
The Jetstream 390 is the only guitar from the off shore gang that was of any interest and it's already evolving. No more Sperzels and no more orange. I have no experience with the Wilkenson (sp?) tuners...but I really thought the oranger was pretty cool.

:mad:


http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/jetstream_390.html

Mike, move fast and you can grab the last of the originals with Spertzels from the In stock page. My Prototype Jetstream ROCKS!

frtzl
01-28-2006, 06:26 PM
Thanks for the snap Jon,
That's me with the SS on the far right, only yellow SS in the shot.

I'm still debating shipping it. My sea freight quotes are stacking up, and I'm only shipping:

- Climbing gear (big walls = big gear)
- Bike and cycling gear
- Skis and skiing gear
- Books (mostly music rep etc.)

Charges are by volume for less-than-one-container, so a boxed guitar is a non-trivial addition.

We'll see, I have another week to decide.

F

Jon Silberman
01-29-2006, 07:17 PM
Excellent Naylor amp thread in the Amps section, thought I'd link to it here so no one misses it!

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=127975

Brion
01-30-2006, 11:30 AM
Well I guess I just joined the Reverend congregation as I just won the ebay auction that tone factor had on a Blue Rocco with eastpointe neck. It's been a while since I've played one, but I always thought the Reverends were interesting guitars. This one has 2 mini switches. I'm not sure if they are both for coil splitting each pickup or if 1 is a coil split and the other a phase switch. The Rocco doesn't seem too popular in this thread as there is much more talk of the avenger and slingshot, but I don't currently own a humbucker equipped axe so the Rocco seemed the most logical one for me.

Avenger
01-30-2006, 12:04 PM
Welcome, Brion. I think Roccos are very cool. A few folks around here have Roccos. See the picture above for Glenn's special order green Rocco. I've heard this guitar and it is awesome. I believe the switches are both coil taps on your guitar. The phase switch would be a third toggle and I don't think phase was an option back in the Eastpointe days.:RoCkIn

Jon Silberman
01-30-2006, 12:26 PM
I own a Rocco, too, but I replaced the 'buckers with Harmonic Design Z90s for that "jazzmaster" look. I never really bonded with the Rev 'buckers (admittedly, though, I prefer single coils generally).

The two minitoggles are both coil splitters, one for the bridge PUP, other for the neck. I converted them on mine to phase and blower (bypasses volume and tone pots) switches. I also replaced the 3-way switch with a 4-way to add both PUPs in series.

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682310/2949318/94025689.jpg

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682310/2949318/94025727.jpg

portsider
01-30-2006, 12:31 PM
Well I guess I just joined the Reverend congregation as I just won the ebay auction that tone factor had on a Blue Rocco with eastpointe neck. It's been a while since I've played one, but I always thought the Reverends were interesting guitars. This one has 2 mini switches. I'm not sure if they are both for coil splitting each pickup or if 1 is a coil split and the other a phase switch. The Rocco doesn't seem too popular in this thread as there is much more talk of the avenger and slingshot, but I don't currently own a humbucker equipped axe so the Rocco seemed the most logical one for me.

I think the thing with Rocco's is they are too versatile. Slingshots, Wolfmen and Spys are all really unique and I would venture the majority of Reverend owners like the quirky guitars. My Rocco is a great Axe, but I do not love it like I do my Spy and SSC.:dude

daphil
01-30-2006, 12:56 PM
Just got back from Montreal and picking up daPhil's Black SS w/Bigsby. Very cool person and guitar - just not enough jangle for Philippe's taste. I brought the guitar back as checked baggage (hardcase, well-packed inside a box) without any issues.

Just wanted to drop by and tell publicly that meeting Martyn was a pleasure. All the best to you.

Yep. the SS is not "Kerangy" enough to my taste. My small fingers are happier as well on a 24.75 scale lenght. I have a Rick 330 coming that should do good on both counts.

Cheers,

Jon Silberman
01-30-2006, 01:31 PM
The 25 1/2" scale length on the Revs, combined with the hollow phenolic construction and stock bridges, are among the reasons why Revs will never sound or feel remotely like Gibsons even with the identical PUPs (which to me, is a good thing, I'm no a Gibson player though I dig the way others make them sound).

Congrats to both of you on the sale, I dig it when everyone benefits from a gear transaction (pareto optimum, as an economist would put it :) ).

Avenger
01-30-2006, 01:58 PM
Yep. the SS is not "Kerangy" enough to my taste. My small fingers are happier as well on a 24.75 scale lenght. I have a Rick 330 coming that should do good on both counts.

I think you will soon be in "Kerange" heaven. I just got my 330 with high-gain pickups at Christmas. I've barely put it down since. I still like my Reverends, especially my Avenger, but there is nothing like a Ric for that Ric "Kerange." Sounds great through the Hellhound too...:dude


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/Avenger7/Picture617.jpg

daphil
01-30-2006, 02:20 PM
I think you will soon be in "Kerange" heaven. I just got my 330 with high-gain pickups at Christmas. I've barely put it down since. I still like my Reverends, especially my Avenger, but there is nothing like a Ric for that Ric "Kerange." Sounds great through the Hellhound too...:dude

Well Avenger, you're making my day with that sentence. I'll be playing through my Rivera M-60 and my newly acquired '59? Magnatone 210 that I got through the SS deal from Martyn.

Since we are on a Reverend thread, I want to say how much respect I have for their products and philosophy. I hope they can consolidate their business and that I will have an opportunity to get another one someday.

Anybody tried those Warhawks? I really dig the Firebird sound. If only they did a 24.75 scale lenght version.

Brion
01-30-2006, 02:21 PM
I think the Rocco will fit in nicely with my couple of strats and teles and my Hamer Newport (phat cats and Bigsby) The 25.5" scale is my favorite. I'll need to set it up for 11-50's. If the Rev Buckers don't do it for me, I'll probably find some that do. The pickups that are in it are open coil Zebra's vs covered. I guess they're original.

Glenn_K
01-30-2006, 07:18 PM
daphil, I tried a Warhawk at the Philly show. Nice guitar. I'm just waiting for a Bigsby option. :-)

On the missing orange Jetstream.... :-( Oh well, the blue is kind of cool. I think it actually goes better on the Jetstream than it does on the Warhawk.

Joe Naylor
01-30-2006, 08:38 PM
FYI - bad news, one of our dealers, Juniors Music in Connecticut burned down over the weekend. There's a thread in the Sound Hound Lounge:

www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=127937

Jon Silberman
01-31-2006, 04:17 AM
That is so sad and unfortunate. The only consolations are that Paul (Junior), as he expresses in the new message on his website, has a firm grasp of priorities and will rebuild. We all wish him the best.

"In 1986 I was fortunate enough to live out the American dream. I Started my own business. Twenty years later, after much blood, sweat, and tears on Saturday evening, January 28 2006 also, my wife's birthday our family suffered a devastating fire. As we stood and watched with a few hundred towns people we were all administered a lethal dose of " Good Ole Shock & Awe " as our store and lively hood Juniors Music was engulfed in flames. But by the grace of God no one was hurt. While holding Miranda my six year old daughter she squeezed me tight and said "Daddy you still have us". After all, that is the most important and only thing that really matters. I want to say thank you to all who extended their hands, and offered my family a place to stay and whatever else we needed. Also, Thanks to everyone over the years who stopped by Juniors Music to shop, say hello, sing a song, talk Yankees, smile, laugh or cry. I always said " Were not here to make money, were here to make friends". God has blessed us with an awful lot of real good friends. To everyone whom ever had the guts and courage to pick up a guitar and believed they could, I applaud you. Please pardon our appearance while we take some time to rebuild. Juniors Music is once again looking forward to Bringing you the best in American made guitars, amps, and effects. " Rock On, Junior

Mike Duncan
01-31-2006, 04:58 PM
I saw that! Terrible news, but great to hear that they'll rebuild!

oxtone
01-31-2006, 07:24 PM
Fellow Reverend owner - four of them at the momment - checking in! As soon as I can figure out a photo hosting site, I'll the group shot of my flock up here.
Mike

Mike: try www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com). Easy to use. Free account, too.

Crazyquilt
01-31-2006, 09:38 PM
For those not at the FDP...back in mid-December, right after I'd gotten my Flatroc, Joe had suggested a few things to brighten up the guitar, because I felt it was too dark. Well, after a month & a half of trying various little tweaks to pickups, amps, and just trying to see if I needed to "warm up" to the Flatroc, I decided to take one of Joe's suggestions: remove the 330pf cap across the output jack.

I feel like I've got a totally new guitar.

Now, I'll be the first to admit that autosuggestion & placebo effect are powerful things, but the guitar just sounds much more alive -- zingier, airier, and with many more overtones. I'm finding that I'm working the tone & volume knobs more, and the bass contour less. Considering the BC is the farthest knob, that seems more ergonomic to me. Since I've been playing lots of Tele lately, it's also more familiar to me.

A lot of the use I was getting from the BC before was to brighten up the guitar by rolling back the bass. I was rarely working with a "wide open" tone, there was always some modification going on. Now, I play a lot more wide open, but I can flavor to suit. The tone knob was, for me, about useless, but not anymore.

It's also an easily reversible mod; the cap is soldered across the lugs of the output jack, but the ends aren't pushed through the lugs, so you can easily desolder the cap without messing up the hot & ground wires. I kept the cap, just in case, but I don't expect to use it again.

The inside was very neat. I was surprised to see 250K pots ... I'm pretty noobish, but I didn't expect to see those with humbuckers, although maybe Filtertrons are run with 250k rather than 500k pots.

Jon Silberman
02-01-2006, 05:46 AM
Thanks for the update, CQ.

Removing the cap is most definitely not a placebo effect. That cap is there specifically to bleed treble. Remove it and the tone changes, period.

You would also increase the treble, of course, by swapping in 500K pots.

How many times do you think someone sold an otherwise good guitar because "I don't like the tone" when all he needed to have done was some minor experimentation with electronics value changes? That's the lesson I take from your success!

Crazyquilt
02-01-2006, 06:56 AM
You would also increase the treble, of course, by swapping in 500K pots.

How many times do you think someone sold an otherwise good guitar because "I don't like the tone" when all he needed to have done was some minor experimentation with electronics value changes? That's the lesson I take from your success!

I considered trying to change the pots at some point, but then I'd have to sit & figure out all the cap values & it'd be much more of a PITA...although certainly educational.

I'm learning that last lesson myself...I'm infected with Modder's Disease, now -- I don't feel like a guitar is really mine unless I've at leastopened it up & looked around. Which is always a prelude to changing something, of course....

Paul Conway
02-01-2006, 09:21 AM
What a crying shame:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7386940503&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1

It was a nice looking guitar, too..

portsider
02-01-2006, 09:47 AM
What a crying shame:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7386940503&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1

It was a nice looking guitar, too..
You've got that right, Paul. I emailed the guy and told him I'd take it for the 399 if he eats the shipping, no reply. I figure it would take about $100 to get Reverend to fix it properly, actually maybe more, but what a great color!

Avenger
02-01-2006, 10:17 AM
You've got that right, Paul. I emailed the guy and told him I'd take it for the 399 if he eats the shipping, no reply. I figure it would take about $100 to get Reverend to fix it properly, actually maybe more, but what a great color!

IMO that is not even worth 399. I would think you would have to replace the top. I doubt Reverend even has any of that forest green color any more. The fix would certainly cost more than 100. In addition, I don't think the saddles are original and it is hard to tell, but the control knobs look a little off too. It would be nice to rescue it, but I don't see it being worth more than 200 in its present state. The neck and the pickups would be worth 200, but the body might be a total loss.

Jon Silberman
02-01-2006, 11:15 AM
"It is in excellent condition but it does have some shop damage."

...

Please, Mr. Gandalf - don't turn me into anything ... unnatural! :eek:

Mike Duncan
02-01-2006, 12:09 PM
http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/instock_specials.html


Look at the Misc. Items - Good deal on an Eric Johnson Strat.

Mike Duncan
02-01-2006, 12:11 PM
It is a great color on that poor Slingshot...Joe still has that color available!

Brion
02-02-2006, 01:56 PM
The Rocco arrived yesterday well packed in a gigbag inside a big box full of packing peanuts. It's safe and sound. I got to play it for a short time. It's definitely a cool guitar. The eastpointe neck is nice, not quite as beefy as I like, but It doesn't seem as if it will cramp my hand while playing for long periods of time. Probably due to the large size fretwire on it. It's a Dark Blue in color which is hard to photo in the house. I'll have to wait for a sunny day to get a good photo of it. There is no serial # on the back of the neck. It doesn't appear to have been removed. I'll check inside the body and at the heel when I change string guage and set it up. Here's a pic.

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL397/2079397/6921572/128043582.jpg

Crazyquilt
02-02-2006, 08:29 PM
PSA:

Anyone looking for a Kingsnake (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=1184671#post1184671)?

SFK
02-02-2006, 08:36 PM
"It is in excellent condition but it does have some shop damage."

...

Please, Mr. Gandalf - don't turn me into anything ... unnatural! :eek:


That cracked me up too.:jo

Glenn_K
02-02-2006, 09:01 PM
Shop damage? What's up with that? Is that like saying it's in mint condition except it's smashed?

martyncrew
02-02-2006, 09:38 PM
Brion - some of the serial numbers just seem to wear off. I've seen very early Revs with serial numbers that are still perfectly clear and mid-02xxxx serial numbers that were hardly visible. I doubt if you'll find a date inside, I've only ever seen neck dates on very early Reverends.

Jon Silberman
02-03-2006, 06:51 AM
Brion - some of the serial numbers just seem to wear off.

It's terrible how they fail to hold up to Scotchbrites and sandpaper. ;)

Brion
02-03-2006, 09:39 AM
I checked yesterday. No serial # in the body or on the heel. The only indication to it's age is the fact that it says Eastpointe MI on the headstock. I set the guitar up with 10-46 yesterday just to see how it reacts to a slightly heavier guage. It Intonated easily and none of the saddles are maxed out in either direction. It plays very nice and sounds pretty good too. The Bridge pickup is the 15K type just like John mentioned earlier. The neck pu is unmarked.

portsider
02-04-2006, 03:06 PM
I have this bug up my posterior to open up my Rocco and install a treble rolloff (I can look under the hood of my Jetstream to find out how it works) and put the output jack on the side. Am I nuts? (Let me rephrase that.) Is there any good reason not to do that?

Jon Silberman
02-04-2006, 05:14 PM
I have this bug up my posterior to open up my Rocco and install a treble rolloff (I can look under the hood of my Jetstream to find out how it works) and put the output jack on the side. Am I nuts? (Let me rephrase that.) Is there any good reason not to do that?

As you know, I never see a reason why your guitar should not be configured that you want it to be. :)

Paul Conway
02-05-2006, 03:22 AM
So....seeing as Reverend is a company where there is actually very little (virtual) distance between MD and customer (and where said MD actually appears to pay attention), howabout we post our ideas for new models? I know it's been mooted that the low minimum order numbers for the imports make variations on a theme a lot more possible.

I've mailed Joe before about mine: Slingshot custom-style guitar (I guess it would now have to be a fixed bridge 390 style guitar) with an HB in place of the bridge p90. You can have it in a multitude of colours, as long as they are British Racing Green with an off-white 3-ply guard. (We might stretch to ocean turquoise and 2-tone sunburst if you ask nicely....)

Jon Silberman
02-05-2006, 05:51 AM
uberschall, that sounds like a sweet setup you have there, welcome! :)

Paul C, to be frank, personally, I have no interest - at least currently - in acquiring an import Rev. Though I enjoy seeing and hearing about others' imports, including ideas for new models. :cool:

ol' bugeyes
02-05-2006, 10:53 AM
i have to confess that i don't have much interest in the imports either, but would love to see what some of these new models look like with gold hardware. the warhawk seems like a good candidate for this. like a standard vs. custom type option. of course, some kind of bitchen reverend r inlay would be cool too. (i've been playing my AS 200 too much.)

portsider
02-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Paul C, to be frank, personally, I have no interest - at least currently - in acquiring an import Rev. Though I enjoy seeing and hearing about others' imports, including ideas for new models. :cool:
I was not too keen on the imports either, but I found the prospect of owning a prototype plus getting a trem Reverend at an acceptible price too tempting for me to pass on. Thus the Jetstream 390 in my stable. I am really happy with that instrument.
Yes Jon I know you'd just as soon mod a guitar as look at it. ;) I was more thinking of any logistical problems connected with that particular mod.

Jon Silberman
02-05-2006, 02:14 PM
... the Jetstream 390 in my stable. I am really happy with that instrument.
That's what counts! :AOK

Yes Jon I know you'd just as soon mod a guitar as look at it. ;) I was more thinking of any logistical problems connected with that particular mod.
Hey, I resemble that remark! But anyways ... the treble bleed cap is a simple, non-intrusive, solder two wires mod. Moving the output jack, on the other hand, means an irreversible, intrusive mod. May I ask why you want to do that? I can understand having a personal preference but it's irrelevant, in this case, to tone and playability as best as I can tell. :confused:

portsider
02-05-2006, 11:44 PM
That's what counts! :AOK


Hey, I resemble that remark! But anyways ... the treble bleed cap is a simple, non-intrusive, solder two wires mod. Moving the output jack, on the other hand, means an irreversible, intrusive mod. May I ask why you want to do that? I can understand having a personal preference but it's irrelevant, in this case, to tone and playability as best as I can tell. :confused:

If I put the treble roll-off where the jack is, the jack has to go somewhere. I don't see how I could do that mod without moving the jack. Also the phenolic has two small cracks, so I figure the resale is bad anyway.

Jon Silberman
02-06-2006, 06:36 AM
If I put the treble roll-off where the jack is, the jack has to go somewhere.

:confused: I don't understand this comment - are we talking about the same thing (a small capacitor)?

Paul Conway
02-06-2006, 10:08 AM
NAMM photos up:

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/the_company/namm_06.html

Jon Silberman
02-06-2006, 10:44 AM
http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/the_company/namm_06_photos/namm_vito_gil_1.JPG

"Rick and Gil trading riffs on Revs?!?!" - I'da paid good money to hear that! :D

portsider
02-06-2006, 05:49 PM
:confused: I don't understand this comment - are we talking about the same thing (a small capacitor)?

No I am talking about putting a third knob on the pickguard replacing the jack.

ol' bugeyes
02-06-2006, 05:56 PM
no comments on the odd ball rev amp or the coors light bottle?

:p

john1056
02-07-2006, 03:05 PM
no comments on the odd ball rev amp or the coors light bottle?

:p

I asked Joe about the Amp at the Philly show. He wants people to focus on the guitars so the amp has a blank chassis. I believe that amp also has the NFB loop mod he discussed to boost low end at low volume.

john1056
02-07-2006, 03:06 PM
BTW did anyone else see the Jetstream in Guitar World in the "Cool new Gear" pages?

Jon Silberman
02-07-2006, 03:36 PM
Maybe the amps will return as well at adjusted prices.

ol' bugeyes
02-07-2006, 05:50 PM
and what did joe have to say about the coors?

Joe Naylor
02-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Tastes like water. Give me a Bell's or Motor City Ghettoblaster!

That amp is basically a Goblin with all the British options (Schizo, Gain, Presence) ripped out of it. It is only capable of a nice blackface tone, so we always have a Jekyll & Hyde pedal hooked up for rockin'. It's also permanently in 15 watt mode, and the on-off power switch has been replaced with a standby switch... there is NO power switch, it's plug n' go!

It has an extra bass control (negative feedback reduction control) on the back which I adjust to the room. The tubes are biased maximum hot and the NF knob is usually maxed. This allows a big sounding tone at very low 'show' volumes. In fact, if you crank the volume past half the low end totally mushes out and the tubes would probably smoke after 10 minutes.

Jon Silberman
02-08-2006, 11:31 AM
Those are excellent features, almost like Princeton Reverb +. It would make a for an outstanding home (practice) or small club amp.

Jon Silberman
02-08-2006, 04:55 PM
Just got home. My latest Vintage Guitgar edition came today. The Rev ad features two guitars. I am really taken by the sunburst Warhawk - beautiful.

bluestonetom
02-08-2006, 09:17 PM
I am the proud new owner of the NAMM demo black Jetstream 390. It's set up with 10's and has Sperzels. Just waiting for a case to come in before it ships. Wonder who might have played this instrument during the NAMM weekend???

Don't own any other Rev guitars, but do own a Goblin, which I like very much. Also have a Rev Alltone 12" in a Fender DT112 cab. Sounds quite healthy with the Goblin pushing it.

Any tips, comments regarding the Jetstream? I'm excited! Thanks.

ol' bugeyes
02-09-2006, 07:22 PM
hey that sounds like a pretty cool lil' amp joe. ever think about making 'em?
:p

let's hear it for michigan beer!

Joe Naylor
02-09-2006, 07:33 PM
ol' bugeyes]hey that sounds like a pretty cool lil' amp joe. ever think about making 'em?
:p

I'm trying my best not to think about making anything but guitars. :)

let's hear it for michigan beer! :BEER

Avenger
02-10-2006, 06:34 AM
Just a heads up... I'm thinking of putting my black Hotshot Jr. up in the emporium this weekend. I just feel that someone should actually be playing this great guitar.:YinYang

Jon Silberman
02-10-2006, 06:45 AM
I just feel that someone should actually be playing this great guitar.:YinYang

Why not you? ;)

Glenn_K
02-10-2006, 07:22 AM
Terry... I'm very short of money right now.. but I sure liked that guitar when you brought it to the jam despite it not having a whammy. What are you asking? To be honest, I think you should be keeping it.

Jon Silberman
02-10-2006, 07:23 AM
Of course, if you bought every Reverend guitar you "sure liked," Glenn, you'd need a wharehouse (me, too). ;) :D

Avenger
02-10-2006, 07:49 AM
Terry... I'm very short of money right now.. but I sure liked that guitar when you brought it to the jam despite it not having a whammy. What are you asking? To be honest, I think you should be keeping it.

Glenn, I sent you an e-mail regarding the price I'm thinking about.

I'm sure I will regret selling this a bit since the guitar plays great, but for the crunchy rhythm stuff I was using it for, my new Rickenbacker is more of the sound I was looking for.

Take that in combination with my recent discovery that diamond earings cost much more than I thought(wife's 40th birthday is next week:D) and the Hotshot sale makes mucho sense to me.

Glenn_K
02-10-2006, 08:24 AM
you need to get that zirconium stuff.. ha ha

Glenn_K
02-10-2006, 08:28 AM
Jon, you have a point. It was that hot pickup that I really was digging. That thing totally rocks.:dude :RoCkIn

ol' bugeyes
02-10-2006, 03:04 PM
anybody else think we should see a vito jr.? (with bigsby of course...)

Jon Silberman
02-11-2006, 05:09 PM
I'm not much on "Junior" models, myself. Whether it be a Jr. or and Esquire, give me that neck pickup, I say. In fact, truth be known and Teles excepted, I'd just as soon have a one-PUP axe with the neck PUP! :eek:

Avenger
02-11-2006, 05:09 PM
My wife has convinced me to hold off on selling the Hotshot. I guess she agrees with Jon and Glenn on this one...:D (She's still getting the earings on Monday BTW) Anyone want to buy a kid?;)

Avenger
02-11-2006, 05:16 PM
I'm not much on "Junior" models, myself. Whether it be a Jr. or and Esquire, give me that neck pickup, I say. In fact, truth be known and Teles excepted, I'd just as soon have a one-PUP axe with the neck PUP! :eek:
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682310/8450308/128109182.jpg

I'm not an expert or anything, but that looks like more than one pickup to me;) :D :D :D I do love that Jerrycaster:AOK

Jon Silberman
02-11-2006, 06:53 PM
Thanks for noticing, Terry. It is a different beast from a Rev, that's for sure, but they're both great and I wouldn't want, now, to do without either. :)

P.S. (2/13): Before receiving it, I'd agree that all I'm playing lately are my Revs but now, I must admit, I've become a bit infatuated with a new sweetie. :o

Jon Silberman
02-14-2006, 07:55 AM
As I'm already planning to head back to Phil Jacoby's shop this Friday for some Jerrycaster fine-tuning (more on that later), I think I'm going to also have him replace the 500K pots in my Rocco and its Z90s (see below) with 250Ks for a smoother, mellower tone. This is something Joe Naylor noted a while back on another board's Rev thread as his own personal preference for Z90s in his guitars and I'm going to give it a try.

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682310/2949318/94025689.jpg

ol' bugeyes
02-17-2006, 02:52 PM
we're in danger of dropping back to the second page in the scl thread people.

let's think of something to talk about.

QUICK!

Mike Duncan
02-17-2006, 03:15 PM
Cool Spy on Ebay.

martyncrew
02-17-2006, 04:16 PM
Very cool Spy

BTW, being a Brit, I have plenty of relatives who would provide a UK shipping address if anyone is serious about this guitar

Jon Silberman
02-17-2006, 04:34 PM
Just got back from Phil's shop. Now have a 300K volume knob (switched from 500K) and a 500K tone knob. Haven't had a chance to play the axe yet, though! :eek:

martyncrew
02-17-2006, 04:47 PM
Very handy having a tech on hand, isn't it Jon? I live 5 miles from Dan Torres' shop and he's saved my bacon many times!

Mike Duncan
02-17-2006, 04:54 PM
I need to meet and put this Phil Jacoby to work like CRAZY! I've got so many run down guitars...well three.

Jon Silberman
02-17-2006, 06:45 PM
Very handy having a tech on hand, isn't it Jon? I live 5 miles from Dan Torres' shop and he's saved my bacon many times!

Hey, don't rub it in! (I live 63 miles from Phil!)

Crazyquilt
02-17-2006, 06:55 PM
I live right next door to Dan Erlewine. :) Although my major interest has been in learning from him...I'm trying to get to the point where I can do a lot of stuff myself. Better, where I can design & build my own stuff. That, however, is a long, long way away.

I have a confession to make: I'm jonesing for a Thinline. If I give in, I'll have more Teles than Reverends. I'm so ashamed.:o

Avenger
02-17-2006, 08:46 PM
...I have a confession to make: I'm jonesing for a Thinline. If I give in, I'll have more Teles than Reverends. I'm so ashamed.:o

Give us a harder problem to solve than that one. Just get another Reverend:D

Crazyquilt
02-17-2006, 10:04 PM
I'll have to wait for Joe's next big thing, then...I'm quite happy with the ones I've got, and none of the current models really do anything that I can't do already (except 'real' humbuckers, but that's not really my bag. If it were, though, I'd get a Warhawk. If. You know. But I'm not interested. Really. Much.)

(GAS is bad.)

Paul Conway
02-18-2006, 03:04 AM
Crikey - a Rev on Ebay in the UK! Hen's teeth, etc....

Glenn_K
02-18-2006, 05:41 AM
Last weekend had a band session with my KS head, 1x12 Rev cab w/Wizard speaker. I used my Wolfman and the UK setting the whole time. Sounded great. That combo seems to work pretty well.

portsider
02-18-2006, 07:45 AM
Crikey - a Rev on Ebay in the UK! Hen's teeth, etc....
You should grab that one, Paul.:BEER

Crazyquilt
02-18-2006, 09:15 AM
Agreed. Spy's are great guitars.

Paul Conway
02-18-2006, 10:50 AM
Hmmmmm..............you guys are giving me GAS...

Jon Silberman
02-18-2006, 12:21 PM
At the risk of being Mr. Negative, I don't have a high opinion of the Rev Spy's. It's not the Rev-ness, it's the lipstick PUPs. They just don't float my boat. I heard and played Mike Duncan's Spy and, truth be known, I'm much happier with my Avenger.

mezcalhead
02-18-2006, 12:48 PM
If that Spy had a bigsby, I'd be all over it. Be interesting to see whether it goes high (being so rare) or low (being such an obscure brand over here).

Something I've noticed recently .. not only do you never see them in the UK, the second-hand Revs for sale in the US are never offered for international shipping .. is there some kind of conspiracy to hoard them all in the States?

:)

portsider
02-18-2006, 02:24 PM
At the risk of being Mr. Negative, I don't have a high opinion of the Rev Spy's. It's not the Rev-ness, it's the lipstick PUPs. They just don't float my boat. I heard and played Mike Duncan's Spy and, truth be known, I'm much happier with my Avenger.
Goes to show you how there's room for everyone on this boat. I think the Spy has a particularly sweet voice. It has become my guitar of choice for working on songs and arrangements. It has such a clear voice, that is is easy to flesh out parts with it. It is distinct without the overbearing personality of my SSC.
I actually really dig the SSC's sound, but when writing or arranging its voice kind of takes over. With the Spy it is just me and my inspiration, and the Spy always helps it sound better.
I like more output in a guitar when playing live, but the Spy's tone cannot be replicated.:horse

Jon Silberman
02-18-2006, 07:11 PM
I like more output in a guitar when playing live, but the Spy's tone cannot be replicated.:horse
Well put, portsider. :)

P.S. Did you guys ever wonder about the origin of the name Spy for a Reverend guitar? Well, interestingly, there really was, in WWII, an actual spy known as the Reverend Spy.

http://bookshop.biblebelievers.com/photos/GREEN007-2T.jpg

Paul Conway
02-19-2006, 03:21 AM
If that Spy had a bigsby, I'd be all over it. Be interesting to see whether it goes high (being so rare) or low (being such an obscure brand over here).

Something I've noticed recently .. not only do you never see them in the UK, the second-hand Revs for sale in the US are never offered for international shipping .. is there some kind of conspiracy to hoard them all in the States?

:)

I'd noticed the same thing. Almost as frustrating as being unable to buy Reverend amps when they were available. A chap doesn't have a great deal of choice in affordable, good quality valve amps over here.

Glenn_K
02-19-2006, 01:31 PM
Well put, portsider. :)

P.S. Did you guys ever wonder about the origin of the name Spy for a Reverend guitar? Well, interestingly, there really was, in WWII, an actual spy known as the Reverend Spy.


Hey that's pretty slick.

martyncrew
02-20-2006, 08:21 AM
UK folks - if you ever want something from the US and the buyer won't shp to the UK, I'll be happy to be an intermediary. Lots of people over here don't know how easy it is to ship globally these days. Guitars (in gigbags) to Europe run about $85-90, amps would be about $145-150.

Speaking of amps, given that Joe will sell the schematics and that the amps are pretty simple designs in the first place, any local tech could maintain them. All you'd need is a step up voltage transformer (or to replace the PT).

Martyn

Jon Silberman
02-20-2006, 08:35 AM
I would go so far as to say that with a competent tech, you don't even need the schematic. Pete Cage made several mods to my Hellhound without one. There are only so many ways to amplify a signal and nothing's hidden inside Rev amps, all you need is a tech who's not afraid to work on circuit boards (in Pete's case, he came to amps from computers so for him it's child's play).

Paul Conway
02-20-2006, 10:07 AM
Thanks Jon, and thanks Martyn - surely there's some good guitar Karma coming your way...

Jon Silberman
02-24-2006, 05:00 AM
Pardon me for suggesting this but I'm wondering if the recent die-back in posting on this thread reflects a general loss of interest in new Reverend products among the cognesceti? There used to be multiple Rev amps, pedals, and reasonably priced USA guitars that prompted a lot of discussion. I know, for me, the Korean models hold pretty much no interest and all the other products are gone with the USA guitars now priced at a point where it's difficult to cop one on a whim as opposed to a used one off of eBay. Or is it just that amongst us folks here we already have all the Rev gear we need and have pretty much discussed it to death already?

I have to admit, I do occasionally peek at the FDP Rev thread, there seems to be more posting there with higher interest in the import guitars. Maybe this just reflects a different focus, guitar/music-wise, among the regulars here and there.

martyncrew
02-24-2006, 07:42 AM
Jon:

I think you are right on both counts. Also, the FDP/TGP split, and Reverend's failure to launch its own forum, has contributed to the loss of momentum IMO. My 2 cents...

For my part, I've got the Reverends that I want/need, and tweeked them to a point where I'm happy. Through tweekeing (Vintage Vibe pickups in this case) my SSC is my #1 guitar due to its playability, versatility and the fact that the bugeye finish makes me smile every time I go to pick it up.

Yesterday, I visited Reverend's new Bay Area dealer - Keith Holland Guitars in Los Gatos and got to play a Club King and a Charger 290 for a while. Both were well-made (really nice fret work for the price) and played well but didn't appear to cover any new sonic ground for me. As much as I like the designs and want to support Reverend, I just can't see getting excited enough to buy an import or shell out $1000+ for a US model when I've already got a Rumblefish and 4 Rev guitars.

Martyn

P.Muck
02-24-2006, 08:34 AM
For me it's not so much a lack of interest- (I'm lurking in this forum every day) it's more of a lack of anything interesting to say re: Rev stuff. I will say, however that I got a Digitech GNX4 a couple of monthes ago and it is a riot. Between the built in 8 track recorder/ Jam Man and drum machine, I feel like I have been actually "playing" guitar as opposed to "working " on my chops- with better results (if that makes any sense).
Anyway, I've been looking for a dual humbucker guitar recently, and I just can't seem to pull the trigger on a Charger or Warhawk from the Stage King Series.
A lot of it has to do with the fact that my instructor has a PRS CU22 that sounds and plays awesome and I have to wonder how much of that tone/playability filters down to the SE series. The reintroduction of the singlecut also peaks my interest.

I think my question is "for $500.00, which apple lands closer to the tree, the Stage Kings or the SE series?" Anybody have any insight on this?
I'd love to A/B a Tremonti SE and a Charger HB, but I can't see that happening anytime soon. Anybody out there had a chnace to do a similar comparo?
Thanks,
Pat

Crazyquilt
02-24-2006, 08:59 AM
I dunno, Jon. I think you might be reading a bit much into it. This thread has typically seemed to have less traffic than the FDP Congregation; most of us here have several Revs, and are longtime supporters of Reverend. Short of new instruments, or major mods to old ones, there's not a lot to talk about, absent stuff like, "Hey, I just played a G6/9 chord on my SSC, and a portal to the underworld opened up!" :Devil

Granted, though, that's a good thing to know.

I've got the guitars I want, and, while there are a few models of the Stage Kings that I find interesting, there's not much to make me cry, "I need one, NOW!" Tho' the Warhawk is pretty cool; if I decided I needed a humbucker guitar, that's what I'd get.

I'm still toying wth the idea of converting my SSC to a 'plain old' SS, but I'm not totally decided on that. If I did, I'd likely get a pickguard custom cut & recreate the circuit on a second 'guard (and I'd use a set of VV or Lollar P-90s, while I was at it.) Oh, and I'd probably switch necks -- put the rosewood on the SS, and the maple on the Spy. The hardest part, as I see it, is figuring out how the bass contour works, although, since this'd be a custom guard, I could just omit that hole/knob. That would depend on what pickups I got, and whether I thought a BC was necessary.

portsider
02-24-2006, 09:11 AM
Pardon me for suggesting this but I'm wondering if the recent die-back in posting on this thread reflects a general loss of interest in new Reverend products among the cognesceti?
I have to admit, I do occasionally peek at the FDP Rev thread, there seems to be more posting there with higher interest in the import guitars. Maybe this just reflects a different focus, guitar/music-wise, among the regulars here and there.
For me it is the lack of interesting items on ebay, People seem to be thinking twice before unloading the more desirable USA Reverends, And, boy, some of the prices the good ones get ($1300 for a Brad Houser?). It saps some fun out of the whole experience IMHO.
Re:FDP, Jon, I knew you couldn't stay away. Your postings are missed over there.
Martyn, good thing you grabbed that bugeye when you did!:AOK

Jon Silberman
02-24-2006, 10:24 AM
I know I should not have admitted that, portsider. :o :D

mezcalhead
02-24-2006, 10:44 AM
stuff like, "Hey, I just played a G6/9 chord on my SSC, and a portal to the underworld opened up!" :Devil


Hey, I'm gonna try that when I get home!

After the rush of the new import line and the resurrection of the US line, things are a bit quieter .. but there will be more to discuss in the future, I'm sure.

In the meantime, FWIW my Rocco made a reappearance last week from under the bed in the upstairs bedroom, where it has been stored ever since my SSC arrived. It is now my main practice guitar: light, easy to hold, fun to play, and has great clean single-coil sounds for hearing whether I'm messing up my scales. Plus, it looks good and I get a smile every time I open its case and see its crazy shiny blue retroness.

Jon Silberman
02-24-2006, 01:46 PM
Ha ha! I like that: "May I play you today, Your Retroness?" :D

john1056
02-24-2006, 02:11 PM
I'm still toying wth the idea of converting my SSC to a 'plain old' SS, but I'm not totally decided on that. If I did, I'd likely get a pickguard custom cut & recreate the circuit on a second 'guard...

You know you could just take the middle pup out and leave it open for pyrotechnics. Some colored smoke bombs or roman candles would be cool. So the switching scheme would be bridge, bridge and smoke bomb, smoke bomb, smoke bomb and Neck, Neck.

Crazyquilt
02-24-2006, 02:25 PM
You know you could just take the middle pup out and leave it open for pyrotechnics. Some colored smoke bombs or roman candles would be cool. So the switching scheme would be bridge, bridge and smoke bomb, smoke bomb, smoke bomb and Neck, Neck.

:dude

Then I need to add buttons like splatt's Tornipulator that, when depressed, cause a tiny speaker to roar "Hail Satan!" into the pickups for that low-down, I-went-to-the-crossroads-and-all-I-got-was-this-cheezy-gimmick effect.

Really, tho' I'd need one of the Vito Voodoo SSCs for the total effect. :D

P.Muck
02-24-2006, 02:38 PM
... So the switching scheme would be bridge, bridge and smoke bomb, smoke bomb, smoke bomb and Neck, Neck.


now that is some funny stuff. I love the idea of smoke bomb and neck position. I wonder if it would be hum cancelling as well:confused:

Glenn_K
02-24-2006, 03:56 PM
Hey, have you guys seen the craziness on the in-stock page? My mouth is warterding for Spys again. And a lime green Wolfman? A black Junior? All kinds of stuff including a few more amps. DON'T LOOK!

martyncrew
02-24-2006, 05:56 PM
I've known about the KS heads coming up for a while and may well bag one. Some of Joe's other junk (tolex, grill cloth, etc) also looks very useful. Grrr...

Crazyquilt
02-24-2006, 06:05 PM
:eek:

That turquoise Spy is absolutely smokin. So is the blue faux wood Wolfie.

I have a Spy. I have a Flatroc.

Why, Lord, why?

:eek:

Mike Duncan
02-24-2006, 06:17 PM
They are really cool looking. Each and every one. This is not what I needed to see today. Not at all.

mezcalhead
02-25-2006, 04:34 AM
Absolutely .. I particularly didn't need to see that lime green Spy.

Glenn_K
02-25-2006, 05:31 AM
The turquiose Spy is definitely smoking. If I had disposable cash, I would be on the phone.

Jon Silberman
02-25-2006, 08:04 AM
Yikes! I just tried to go to www.reverenddirect.com (http://www.reverenddirect.com) and got this in response:

"Notice: This domain name expired on 02/20/06 and is pending renewal or deletion"

However, www.reverendguitars.com works.

Jon Silberman
02-25-2006, 08:07 AM
The Spys do look nice. The lack of a bass contour control would mean less to me on a Spy, given the PUPs, than on any other model.

P.S. to Glenn: I'll be heading up to Pete Cage's shop on Friday 3/17 for a treble bleed cap swap on my Traynor YGM-3. :)

Jon Silberman
02-25-2006, 08:08 AM
Holey moley - someone should jump on this Avenger for $999! I love my own Avenger, it's the axe that literally led me to sell my Strat.

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/demo_cos_sec_models/demo_02_22_06/avenger_rmah_big_gpg.jpg

Avenger
02-25-2006, 06:45 PM
I've been pretty busy at work, so I haven't posted for awhile. Those are some pretty cool and unique Reverends on the in-stock page. I noticed that Avenger too, Jon. I also really like the blue wood grain Wolfman:cool: .

Regarding my own congregation. I found a new way to like my Hotshot Jr. a bit more. I recently got a Fulltone '69 fuzz pedal (I'm still trying to find the sweet spots on this, very cool pedal, but not nearly as user friendly as the Drivetrain) The Hotshot sounds awesome with the '69 and Drivetrain together. Talk about opening a portal to the underworld...:Devil

john1056
02-25-2006, 08:04 PM
now that is some funny stuff. I love the idea of smoke bomb and neck position. I wonder if it would be hum cancelling as well:confused:

I guess it depends on the orientation of the wick.

portsider
02-26-2006, 07:34 AM
I guess it depends on the orientation of the wick.
That's what she said.:moon

Glenn_K
02-26-2006, 11:17 AM
Hey Jon. Say Hi to Pete.

Don't know if you guys have been reading, but there is a possibility of a trem on all import Revs due to a new add-on type trem that takes the place of a Gibson style bridge. There was talk about it on the FDP. Apparently Joe is considering it. That would be cool for the Warhawk. Possibly not cool if the Bigsby goes away--I don't know. It's the "Les Trem."

ol' bugeyes
02-26-2006, 12:00 PM
so what's it going to be mike?

just a different color wolfie?

martyncrew
02-26-2006, 12:59 PM
Yes, I noticed that Mike's Wolfie is up for sale. $900+ for a Wolfie seems a lot even with a Bigsby. Made me wonder what Beth is up to these days?

Speaking of Bigsbys and trems, my SS with Bigsby is just sitting in it's case - all I ever play these days is my bugeye SSC or a Tele. The SS is a great guitar but I just love the sounds of the SSC with the Vintage Vibe P90s. In fact, I like the VV pickups so much that I'm putting together a Strat with VV SP90s - the Strat has a 60s profile maple/rw neck that I just picked up on TGP, AmStd Daphne Blue body, and the VV pickups in a mint pg. I can't decide if I should blow another $100 on a Callaham trem or just use an MIJ one that I have in my parts drawer. Any opinions?

martyncrew
02-26-2006, 01:01 PM
BTW, being somewhat off Bigsbys, to me the most interesting of the Revs on the Rev website are the P90 Commandos - cool look and I really like the idea of the hot Strat neck and P90 bridge combo.

portsider
02-26-2006, 01:49 PM
BTW, being somewhat off Bigsbys, to me the most interesting of the Revs on the Rev website are the P90 Commandos - cool look and I really like the idea of the hot Strat neck and P90 bridge combo.
Those do look nice Martyn. I am wondering if the price is a mistake they are the same as the bigsby models. That idea perks up my rather large bargain sniffing nose.

Where does one find the VV pickups?

Beth
02-26-2006, 01:52 PM
Hey guys! Sorry I haven't been around for awhile. Haven't been playing much--have been busy with the family and a new hobby (World of Warcraft--ya ugh! I know--gaming crack). Guitar playing throughout my 23 years of noodling has been cyclic for me and I assume I will be playing guitar alot again in the near future. I think I got turned off when a band project that was supposed to come together vaporized instead. So, anyway, in the mean time, I made two changes to my Rev collection--I traded in my Premium Wolfman for an Advanced '69 Lime Green SS with Bigsby and I bought a ClubKing 290. The ClubKing is, to my ears, really different than the SS. More woody I guess, sounds thicker to me. For those of you who need a scorecard for my Rev gear (I know I do), here is the current list (all the guits have a Bigsby of course!):

Premium SSC
Advanced SS
ClubKing 290
Advanced Wolfman
Flatroc (first run)
Goblin
Kingsnake head with 2-12 Neo bottom

That's some really cool stuff Joe's got on the website--maybe even enough to start a new guitar jones for me ;)

martyncrew
02-26-2006, 01:54 PM
www.vintagevibeguitars.com (http://www.vintagevibeguitars.com)

Not much info but GREAT pickups. Read "smarks" reviews in the PUP Tent over on the FDP for more info, Martyn

Jon Silberman
02-26-2006, 02:55 PM
Yes, I noticed that Mike's Wolfie is up for sale.

Sigh, can't say I'm surprised having been fortunate to have had the chance to personally play Mike's new Gretsch. I'm not putting down his Wolfman by saying it's not in the same league - neither is my own Jackie-Jet - just acknowledging a truly superior instrument when I play one.

Crazyquilt
02-26-2006, 02:58 PM
No, not surprised either -- I know he really loves that Gretsch!

Martyn, have you played Lollar P-90s? I ask only because I'm curious how they compare, and I've only played the Lollars.

Glenn_K
02-26-2006, 03:20 PM
Love my Wolfman

Mike Duncan
02-26-2006, 03:28 PM
I really like my Wolfman, but I've been overtaken by events. Don't feel sorry for me, I've made a few too many purchases between this year and last. Jon is right, the Gretsch really is an amazing guitar. I really do love the Wolfman, but we found out last week baby number two is en route and I feel that I've amassed way too many guitars.

Crazyquilt, you're the only person I know that has ever quoted Six String Samurai. Awesome. I saw it before I knew of the Reverend/Red Elvises connection...finding Reverends just sealed the deal.

Mike

Avenger
02-26-2006, 04:59 PM
I really like my Wolfman, but I've been overtaken by events. Don't feel sorry for me, I've made a few too many purchases between this year and last. Jon is right, the Gretsch really is an amazing guitar. I really do love the Wolfman, but we found out last week baby number two is en route and I feel that I've amassed way too many guitars.

Crazyquilt, you're the only person I know that has ever quoted Six String Samurai. Awesome. I saw it before I knew of the Reverend/Red Elvises connection...finding Reverends just sealed the deal.

Mike

Mike,

Congratulations on the baby on the way. For anyone thinking of getting a Wolfman, I've seen the one Mike is selling on eBay in person. The leather-like pumpkin orange finish is very unique and cool. And it sounds awesome (though that might just have been Mike's fine playing):D

Jon Silberman
02-26-2006, 05:28 PM
So that's what you've been up to lately, Mike. ;)

http://www.themarker.com/ads/2006/NEWenglish/efrat/2/aaretz_300_250_efrat_stork.jpg

martyncrew
02-26-2006, 06:00 PM
Zak - I'm too cheap to try the Lollars ;-)

Seriously, 3 sets of VVs have convinced me that they are the pup for me

How's the Koll?

Jon Silberman
02-26-2006, 06:57 PM
Premium SSC
Advanced SS
ClubKing 290
Advanced Wolfman
Flatroc (first run)
Goblin
Kingsnake head with 2-12 Neo bottom

Damn nice collection there, Beth. :)

Crazyquilt
02-26-2006, 08:13 PM
I really like my Wolfman, but I've been overtaken by events. Don't feel sorry for me, I've made a few too many purchases between this year and last. Jon is right, the Gretsch really is an amazing guitar. I really do love the Wolfman, but we found out last week baby number two is en route and I feel that I've amassed way too many guitars.

Crazyquilt, you're the only person I know that has ever quoted Six String Samurai. Awesome. I saw it before I knew of the Reverend/Red Elvises connection...finding Reverends just sealed the deal.

Mike

Many congratulations!

People told me for years that I had to see Six String Samurai. They were right, for a change. I love that movie -- which tells you a lot about me. :NUTS

The Red Elvises rule. :cool:

Glenn_K
02-27-2006, 08:47 AM
just picked up another Reverend 1X12 cabinet off of ebay. Gonna load it with another Emi speaker. Maybe a Governor this time, or maybe the Red Fang for my Goblin. Fun way to try a bunch of speakers.

portsider
02-27-2006, 09:10 AM
just picked up another Reverend 1X12 cabinet off of ebay. Gonna load it with another Emi speaker. Maybe a Governor this time, or maybe the Red Fang for my Goblin. Fun way to try a bunch of speakers.
Glen, I just grabbed the 4x12 cab off the Reverend In-Stock page. Four Tonespotters and a removable closed back. This shuold sound awesome with my Kingsnake head. I am a little afraid that it will be too much for my needs, but I love the 4x12 sound.

Glenn_K
02-27-2006, 09:34 AM
I saw the 4X12 and was tempted myself.

Jon Silberman
02-27-2006, 09:43 AM
You two are true cab sluts. :eek: :dude:

P.S. mostly to Glenn: do you need a 2X12? I'm preparing to sell my Avatar 2X12 w/pair of CL80s, black tolex/Fender-style cloth (comes with open and closed back panels), mint (not "almost" - actual) condition. It's just too heavy for me in my old age. I would take cash and also consider a trade for a 1X12 plus some cash.

Mike Duncan
02-27-2006, 12:00 PM
The Avenger would appear to be gone...

portsider
02-27-2006, 01:00 PM
[quote=Jon Silberman]You two are true cab sluts. :eek: :dude:


We will see. That baby is 70 pounds, but if it sounds as good as I expect, I will put some wheels on it. Nothing can duplicate the 4x12 sound (ask Clapton) and I expect that Joe worked his magic on this one.

Glenn_K
02-27-2006, 01:10 PM
Jon, I don't have any immediate need, thanks.

Jon Silberman
02-27-2006, 04:48 PM
I ain't talkin' needs, Bro', I'm talkin' wants. ;)

:D

Mike Duncan
02-27-2006, 06:21 PM
It's funny, the day I decide to post the Wolfman, Joe just slays us with cool stuff. Cruel world!

Glenn_K
02-27-2006, 06:56 PM
Speaking of speakers and cabs

I've turned around on my speaker preferences after getting used to the Wizard. I'm favoring it over the Private Jack. The test probably isn't very fair because I'm running the Wizard in it's own cab with the KS head and the PJ in a Hellhound combo, so the comparison isn't exactly the same. But the wizard is very articulate and has a "wide" sound that makes it seem BIGGER and more alive. Martyn, you were right about this being a good one. It really cuts through. In comparison, the PJ seems a bit mushy, although I still like it for a more raunchy sound. As I say, some of the difference could be the Kingsnake head improved circuitry and cabinet isolation of the 1X12.

Glenn_K
02-27-2006, 07:02 PM
Hey, I bought something off the in-stock page! A Y-cable!

There's a Kingsnake missing... Martyn??

I wonder if the Commando High output P90 is like the Slingshot Jr Rio Grande? I notice the Jr. was grabbed.

ol' bugeyes
02-27-2006, 07:24 PM
congrats mike.

i think you'll see that guitar again though. pretty easy to keep track of.

in other non purchase news, i got the nod from my wife for one of those goblins, but have decided against it. i'm holding out for a deal on one of those all tone UK1 models.

and i don't want to burn up one of my purchase nods while there are still two bugeye models to find...

martyncrew
02-27-2006, 09:24 PM
No, I didn't pick up the KS head. Great head and I WANT to buy it but I don't NEED to buy it. I enjoyed playing one a couple of months back but I don't think it gives me much haven't got covered between my BF Bassman and my Club King especially with an extra 1x12 cab.

I just may have to content myself with some grillcloth, tolex and maybe a George L jack or two ;-(

Glenn - told ya about those Wizards! Glad it worked out.

portsider
02-28-2006, 07:22 AM
congrats mike.

i think you'll see that guitar again though. pretty easy to keep track of.

in other non purchase news, i got the nod from my wife for one of those goblins, but have decided against it. i'm holding out for a deal on one of those all tone UK1 models.

and i don't want to burn up one of my purchase nods while there are still two bugeye models to find...
My Goblin is a UK1 model and I love it. I have it right next to my '76 Princeton Reverb. I sometimes consider selling the PR, but never the Goblin. I have owned all of the Reverend amps (except the KS combo) and I believe the Goblin may be Joe's masterpiece. If you don't have a solid lead on a UK1 model, you might want to grab one from Reverend and find an Alltone on Ebay. Bet you'd be able to sell the Neo for more than the Alltone costs.:AOK

BlueHeaven
02-28-2006, 08:30 AM
What exactly is the Goblin UK1 model again?

Joe Naylor
02-28-2006, 09:07 AM
FYI:

Our general email address has been changed to:
sales@reverendguitars.com

The website is now only at: www.reverendguitars.com (http://www.reverendguitars.com)

Anything with "reverendDIRECT.com" in it will no longer work. It's all been changed to reverendGUITARS.com

Thanks.

Glenn_K
02-28-2006, 09:46 AM
I've got the Goblin with the Alltone too (UK1 Model). After the change was made to the Jensen speaker, I felt like I got the bad model, but in the end, I think I like the Alltone speaker just as well or better. Funny because I'm not crazy about the Alltone 12" in the HH. Portsider--there is one other difference in the models... the size of the rear panel... one is wider than the other, I believe the UK1 is wider than the Jensen version.

portsider
02-28-2006, 10:04 AM
I've got the Goblin with the Alltone too (UK1 Model). After the change was made to the Jensen speaker, I felt like I got the bad model, but in the end, I think I like the Alltone speaker just as well or better. Funny because I'm not crazy about the Alltone 12" in the HH. Portsider--there is one other difference in the models... the size of the rear panel... one is wider than the other, I believe the UK1 is wider than the Jensen version.
That's right, the following is from the Reverend FAQ:
"Does Reverend sell the 10" Jensen Neo speaker and can you install it in a Goblin?
The Goblin now comes stock with the Jensen Neo speaker. The Neo is louder, has smoother treble, more low end and more clean headroom than the previously used Alltone 1025 speaker.

We do not offer an upgrade service, but the Neo will drop right in and is available from usspeaker.com (http://www.usspeaker.com/). If you decide to install the Neo, please note: the removable wood back panel must be modified or replaced with a panel that is 1" less in height (new dimensions: 4-7/8" height x 12" long), otherwise the tone will have too much midrange."

portsider
02-28-2006, 10:06 AM
What exactly is the Goblin UK1 model again?
Some of the early Goblins with the Alltone say UK1 for the UK setting. It was a typo, the UK setting is the same on all of them.

BlueHeaven
02-28-2006, 10:09 AM
Thanks portsider!
Greg

martyncrew
02-28-2006, 10:17 AM
Portsider - actually I think the Club King could have been the masterpiece - the Goblin amp in a KS cab with a 12" speaker.

If anyone wants an Alltone 1025, let me know (I have a secret stash!)

Martyn

Glenn_K
02-28-2006, 11:25 AM
And I have a stash of Alltone 12s available.

portsider
02-28-2006, 01:34 PM
Portsider - actually I think the Club King could have been the masterpiece - the Goblin amp in a KS cab with a 12" speaker.

If anyone wants an Alltone 1025, let me know (I have a secret stash!)

Martyn
Possibly, I want to try my Gobby through the Rev 4x12 too!
Bygeye, there ya go. (Nod to Dennis Weaver, RIP.) Get the amp and Martyn's speaker and a bigger baffle and you'll have the original plus a one year warranty.

Crazyquilt
02-28-2006, 02:14 PM
Martyn's having all kinds of excitement. We just cut a deal for his SS, so it looks like my SSC will be up on the block as soon as I can get some pix. Considering my SSC is kind of an oddity, it'll either do well, or not at all (brushed blue aluminum body, black pickguard & pickups covers, maple neck -- and a Bigsby, but that's not odd.) So, now I'll have one phenolic topped Rev, one aluminum Rev, and a Stage King.

Does anyone know if the SS uses 250k or 500k pots? I seem to remember them being 250k, but I don't trust my memory for anything these days.

Jon Silberman
02-28-2006, 02:19 PM
I have a couple of Alltone 12's on reserve but they're NOT for sale. I love that speaker in the Hellhound, it's a perfect match for the amp in my view. (Glenn and I have agreed to disagree about Alltones, Private Jacks, etc. :D .)

martyncrew
02-28-2006, 03:10 PM
I have a couple of Alltone 12's on reserve but they're NOT for sale. I love that speaker in the Hellhound, it's a perfect match for the amp in my view. (Glenn and I have agreed to disagree about Alltones, Private Jacks, etc. :D .)

...but surely you can agree about the Wizard

Jon Silberman
02-28-2006, 05:06 PM
Of course, everyone loves Gandalf. :o

:D

ol' bugeyes
02-28-2006, 05:31 PM
wow, talk abot goblins and everyone jumps in! :AOK

i'm more interested in the typo and the all tone from a rarity standpoint. after listening to all of you gob owners out there, i'm sure it's great amp either way.

right now, i'm looking to go live either with my own material or (fingers crossed) with the band i just auditioned for, and a 5/15 just isn't in the cards. (hopefully a redwitch fuzz god is!)

thanks for the input to all.

martyncrew
02-28-2006, 05:38 PM
Interesting watching the sale on the Reverend website - the first guitars to go were the Slingshots and other P90 equipped guitars. Also, the amps are going quickly.

Makes sense to me!

martyncrew
02-28-2006, 05:40 PM
So, Eric, will you actually gig one of your bugeyes? Mine was really worn when I got it, so I'm past worrying about scratches and dings but those aluminum tops sure mark easily!

Paul Conway
03-01-2006, 02:38 PM
...so judging by the lack of an email from Reverend in my inbox, I haven't one the Vito SS. Bollocks.

Paul Conway
03-01-2006, 02:40 PM
Why the hell did I say 'one' instead of 'won'? Clearly, the insane weather (March 1st, Devon, snow) combined with the temporary insanity of not winning has frazzled my synapses.

martyncrew
03-01-2006, 02:51 PM
Paul - it's not over until the generously proportioned lady sings! Don't give up until it's 12:00:01 in Detroit MI. I'm rooting for you.

martyncrew
03-01-2006, 02:52 PM
btw, does everyone understand "bollocks" or should I translate?

ol' bugeyes
03-01-2006, 03:46 PM
martyn:

if the audition goes well, i'll have to shelve the revs. they're looking to replace a mc carty hollowbody, and i'm afraid the zebra coils aren't up to the job.

if i do my own stuff, i'll definitely be all bugeye all the time.

bull locks? something those rodeo guys use?

Joe Naylor
03-02-2006, 07:55 AM
Never Mind The Bullocks :D

Paul Conway
03-02-2006, 09:42 AM
Never Mind The Bullocks :D

Ah....two nations coming together over a shared love of profanity. Fair warms the cockles, me hearties.

Perhaps, given that I live just up the road from where Sir Walter Raleigh was born, (and I'm feeling unusually patriotic today) I will introduce a nautical theme.......so never mind the ROWLOCKS!

martyncrew
03-02-2006, 10:21 AM
Paul - Walter Raleigh was a player. Some excellent new research and books on him, Drake, Frobisher, et al. Plus, he finally got his statue! (thanks to BAT, my largest global customer)