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mojopedals.com
10-21-2011, 08:20 PM
New post can be found here >>>> MojoPedals New Klone Post (http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=14819337)

orogeny
11-06-2011, 06:24 AM
how do you folks handle the power supply issue?

the centaur required a special power supply or an adaptor. is that the case here as well?

TimH
11-06-2011, 06:49 AM
i'd want to hear it head to head with a real "golden" pedal before buying it.

orogeny
11-06-2011, 07:21 AM
i'd want to hear it head to head with a real "golden" pedal before buying it.
trust me . . . . it's NOT something that can be captured on tape or film. there is a definite feel factor to the klon. i've done testing with a different klone (an early JHS), and they were not the same. on tape they may have sounded the same though.

it's in the lower frequencies, for me. i might be willing to give this one a go though. . . and i do have a klon to compare it against (not mine though). honestly, if i had a clue as to when bill might come out with the next version, i'd just wait. . . . but he's not giving anyone a clue. . .

i guess my point is. . . you have to put them head to head yourself

mojopedals.com
11-06-2011, 10:26 AM
Hi Guys... a couple of pertanent comments if I may...

I'm not surprised that your previous Klone from another well respected expert builder didn't sound exactly like a real one. The reason is simple. All components have a tolerance variable of 1%, 5%, 10%, & 20%. That means on a B100k Dual-Gang "Gain" pot for instance is 100k +/- 10% so that means it will fall somewhere between 90k and 110k. So a setting of 50% open (12 "noon" position of the knob) on the 90k pot would be ~45k and ~55k on the 110k pot. So one pedal will have more "Gain" than the other when set up indentically. The same goes for caps, resisters, IC's, etc. When you add and substract all of those variables in agregate each pedal is unique, just like a fingerprint. Period. If the circuit design is correct they will have the same tonal characteristics of that design and will likely sound the virtually the same if you take the time to learn each pedals dynamics and then tweak them individually to be the same, but they'll never be identical. What I'm saying is "no" our Klone pedals don't sound exactly like a specific "Golden Horsie". But then again no two "Golden Horsies" sound exactly the same either. You have to adjust the controls on each to compensate for the variances in the componants it's made of to get them close. What I will say is our Klone is built from a verified accurate schematic of the original and sounds virtually identical to the overall sound of the original. If you spend the time to tweak the controls to dial it in you will get tones that are very very very close to your specific original (for $600 - $700 cheaper), but it won't be identical because that's not possible. Even if you have two original "Golden Horsies" it wouldn't be possible as they too would have these same variences.

Regarding the Power Supply: Our pedal uses a standard 9v DC negative tip power supply compatible with PP2, Dunlop "Brick", T-Rex Fuel Tank, Boss PSA-120, One-Spot, Godlyke, etc.

sinner
11-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Does your amp need to be loud edge of breakup for the Klone pedal to sound its best?

The clips sound really good--I wonder how loud that Brown Deluxe was?

mojopedals.com
11-06-2011, 11:56 AM
Does your amp need to be loud edge of breakup for the Klone pedal to sound its best?

The clips sound really good--I wonder how loud that Brown Deluxe was?

Yes & No... sorry for the hedge... ;)

Yes, when used as a clean boost it sounds best when the amp is just at the point of break-up and you use the Klone to push it over the top. This tone will make your toes curl... :rotflmao

No, you can use the "Gain" control to "goose" the Klone into "OD" mode and it will drive the amp to break-up at lower volumes.
This is one reason for the original's success - it's really good doing both.

p.s. I'll have to ask Jon about the volume. Most people I know who use "Brown-face" Fender's run them between 6 - 8 on the volume. That being said Demo 1 sounds like the amp is set to a much lower volume than Demo 2.

LSchefman
11-06-2011, 01:35 PM
That's a great sounding set of clips.

gaboocho
11-06-2011, 03:44 PM
Regarding the Power Supply: Our pedal uses a standard 9v DC negative tip power supply compatible with PP2, Dunlop "Brick", T-Rex Fuel Tank, Boss PSA-120, One-Spot, Godlyke, etc.

So these internally run at 18v? Thanks, Gabe

mojopedals.com
11-06-2011, 09:22 PM
So these internally run at 18v? Thanks, Gabe
We use a "charge pump" IC that produecs ~18v output just like the original.

The Klone only requires a 9v DC negative tip power adapter to do this.

DGTCrazy
11-07-2011, 12:11 AM
i'd want to hear it head to head with a real "golden" pedal before buying it.


I own the Real Deal (Klon), and a Mojopedal Klone........and I'm thankful I didn't buy a Klon for what they are selling for now, because the Klone fooled me on a blind A/B test...and I would have felt embarrassed paying all that money for a Klon after hearing the results.

I will say that I think it both pedals work best with Black Face amps, or Black Face voiced amps.....but that's just my personal opinion. Also, I use it strictly for either the Clean Boost, or to Juice my amp set on the edge of break-up. I think there's some other pedals I prefer for the Dirt side of things over either pedal, so I use the Klone & Klon to Stack those dirt pedals. YMMV.

I play in a 5 piece band, playing Top-40 music, and using a 66' Princeton Reverb with the Klone, I've been told I was TOO LOUD in smaller (100-150 person) venues. This is the magic of the Klon circuit IMO, and how it integrates beautifully with BF Amps. It WON'T make you sound like your guitar hero, and the Klon circuit isn't for everyone.

If Mojopedal's ever wants to borrow my Klon to do an A/B comparison for YouTube, I'd gladly make it happen.

meterman
11-07-2011, 02:23 PM
is this a buffered pedal or true bypass? Is it possible to build one with a switchable buffer?

thanks

mojopedals.com
11-07-2011, 03:39 PM
is this a buffered pedal or true bypass? Is it possible to build one with a switchable buffer?

thanks
Hi... it can be built either way. Due to the way the original circuit is designed it would have to be changed to allow for switching the buffer in and out. Then it wouldn't be a exact Klone.

dbeeman
11-14-2011, 06:35 PM
mojo, I heard the big thing was the correct diodes - even down to the brand. Were you able to cover that?

edi_87
11-21-2011, 06:26 AM
so you're definately not shipping it to Europe, do you? ;)

doublee
11-21-2011, 05:29 PM
I got thru 45 seconds of the demo numero uno and there seemed to be other effects applied, so I figured it was more than one pedal demo'd? Hard to figure the klone therefore,

jzucker
11-21-2011, 05:38 PM
price?

dbeeman
11-21-2011, 05:48 PM
Sorry, I guess I am still wondering about the diodes? Are you using germanium diodes?

tdarian
11-21-2011, 07:44 PM
To clarify on the buffer, is it always on?

mojopedals.com
11-22-2011, 02:57 PM
Hi all... I'll try and answer you all in one post... :)

Doublee: The first part of the demo is reverse masked like Hendrix did on "Are you Experienced" so the guitar part is recorded forward and then tracked to ProTools in reverse for the final product... Sorry no reverse masked hidden comments about Paul McCartney though... :rotflmao There are several changes during the song where the pedals was adjusted to show it range. Most noticably when the volume knob is rolled back it cleans up but still retains it's sparkle and depth. The other demo has some Wah and a bit of reverb... This gives a good example of "real world" use and that's why it's there.

JZucker: Price is $185 US. That price includes all PayPal fees and prompt USPS Priority Mail shipping CONUS.

dbeeman: Yes, we use vintage Germaium (Ge) diodes in the audio parts of the circuit. The Zener is for power protection and it's Si but is not in the audio signal path.

tdarian: We can make it buffered or un-buffered. If it's built buffered the buffer is always on just like the original. Personally, in my opinion, I think it sounds better True-Bypass.

mojopedals.com
11-28-2011, 10:25 PM
Bump... http://img.thegearpage.net/board/images/misc/progress.gif

Bluescanoe
11-29-2011, 11:11 AM
Sent a PM. Website not up. How do I order? Thanks!

edi_87
11-30-2011, 02:34 AM
PM'd

chokerjoker4
11-30-2011, 07:56 AM
how do you order one ? i would like one ! i hope you get the website up soon !

mojopedals.com
11-30-2011, 08:50 PM
Sorry about the website... we're much better pedal builders than we are webmasters... hopefully we'll have the site up soon... :)


If you'd like to order one just PM us here.

edi_87
12-01-2011, 06:29 AM
Still waiting for the reply..

MasterEvan07
12-02-2011, 01:23 PM
Would it be possible to build a Klone with a switchable true bypass/buffered bypass functionality? I'm not technically savvy so I've no working knowledge of whether or not that would affect the circuit tonally.

Cheers!

meterman
12-02-2011, 01:36 PM
Would it be possible to build a Klone with a switchable true bypass/buffered bypass functionality? I'm not technically savvy so I've no working knowledge of whether or not that would affect the circuit tonally.

Cheers!

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=11785707&postcount=13

tdarian
12-02-2011, 01:37 PM
Would it be possible to build a Klone with a switchable true bypass/buffered bypass functionality? I'm not technically savvy so I've no working knowledge of whether or not that would affect the circuit tonally.

Cheers!

That would be very cool if it could be implemented. There have been many times where one, or the other, would have been preferable in a given situation. Even if a switch had to be located internally, I'd be cool with that.

Don A
12-03-2011, 09:23 AM
Sounds great!

ttepper
01-16-2012, 05:53 PM
Paid my deposit, waited 2 or 3 weeks (can't remember), paid the balance and walla - the pedal arrived! I don't have an original Centaur to compare it to, but wow, this is one great sounding overdrive! I think I get the whole Klon thing now. When used in front of an amp approaching the sweet spot, it really opens up. The unit is well made; mine looks identical inside to the photo at the beginning of this thread. I'm very happy with mine and am thinking about getting another one as a spare. :)

mojopedals.com
01-29-2012, 12:16 PM
A new batch is rolling off the assembly line now...

rhp52
01-30-2012, 06:27 AM
website down

mojopedals.com
01-31-2012, 02:44 PM
website down
Working on that now... sorry...

mojopedals.com
02-11-2012, 01:03 PM
bump...

clicktone
02-11-2012, 02:09 PM
I LOVE MINE!! Sold my JHS 'cause this one had a bit more bass/fatness to it...not to mention it takes up half the space on my board.

My guitar player has a '01 Silver Klon Centaur that I've been listening to "live" for about a decade. And let me say that the Mojopedals is 99% dead on Klon! You won't be dissapointed in this one folks!!

ttepper
02-11-2012, 08:31 PM
Got my spare yesterday. Now for the Sizzle Fuzz...

hdiddy
02-14-2012, 08:57 AM
Website is down, how do I order one

mojopedals.com
02-21-2012, 10:04 PM
Demo's work again, "Sales" email works again, and the website is back up...