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jzucker
12-03-2011, 03:27 PM
just wondering...

Danny W.
12-03-2011, 04:43 PM
just wondering...

Hi Jack,

See:

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=986622

Danny W.

football
12-03-2011, 07:13 PM
Been on pre-order with Sweetwater for quite some time. They called recently and told me the first of the year.

May or may not be accurate in the end, just passing along what they told me.

randombastage
12-04-2011, 08:11 AM
It may sound better than the Line6 product but they sure did copy the L6 method of dragging out the release well behind the hype

Pietro
12-05-2011, 06:28 AM
It may sound better than the Line6 product but they sure did copy the L6 method of dragging out the release well behind the hype

No, they re-set the bar for that, imho.

That said, if they really are fixing things, people seem to believe that this is going to be worth the wait. Hope so, for you guys...

It certainly does seem to have the best interface of any piece of gear like this ever...

jzucker
12-12-2011, 09:09 PM
any news?

Guitar Josh
12-12-2011, 09:11 PM
any news?

Maybe read one of the 10 or so already existing threads on it?

jzucker
12-12-2011, 09:13 PM
Maybe read one of the 10 or so already existing threads on it?

Thanks. Any news on it?

stratzrus
12-12-2011, 09:28 PM
Latest word is after the first of the year.

fakeox
12-12-2011, 10:27 PM
any news?

The clips are sounding pretty good.

gtr37
12-12-2011, 10:31 PM
Latest word is after the first of the year.

I think it will be later .
I think you will see a final proto at Namm Jan18th . maybe a rack kit.

They will go back to europe make final tweaks from feedback at the show into production and in Store sometime in March ..

That is my prediction

fakeox
12-12-2011, 10:38 PM
I think it will be later .
I think you will see a final proto at Namm Jan18th . maybe a rack kit.

They will go back to europe make final tweaks from feedback at the show into production and in Store sometime in March ..

That is my prediction
What if your predictions are delayed by even better predictions?

gtr37
12-12-2011, 10:54 PM
There is always the chance of further delays ..and a gorilla in a tutu riding a unicycle...

hoss33
12-12-2011, 11:12 PM
The Delay in the Kemper works quite well already.

zentman
12-12-2011, 11:53 PM
The Delay in the Kemper works quite well already.

It has settings at 10 ms, 250 ms, 500 ms, and of course the default one year delay setting.

guitarnet70
12-13-2011, 12:22 PM
It has settings at 10 ms, 250 ms, 500 ms, and of course the default one year delay setting.

The default could be a lot lower than you think.... ;)

zentman
12-13-2011, 12:30 PM
The default could be a lot lower than you think.... ;)

It was announced last winter namm wasn't it?

guitarnet70
12-13-2011, 12:48 PM
It was announced last winter namm wasn't it?

Yep, you're right. I have understood it as 1 year from now. I'm not English.....

mattball826
12-13-2011, 12:52 PM
It was announced last winter namm wasn't it?

iirc so was gsp1101 delayed over 8 months from namm release date. other time the gnx2000 was announced. was summer namm, then again at winter namm. then digitech canceled gnx2000 and changed to gnx3000 and had $100 more price tag to it.

my dtx e drums from yamaha were announce available 1st qtr after winter namm. it took til october to get to states. yamaha changed design and called it dtx special. new design was 3 zone cymbals and actual hardware base hi hat.

delayed releases and many changes are common afterward from namm announcements. namm is trade show for dealers. dealers offer insight to vendors. vendors make those changes to satisfy market.

if kemper sold direct, things might be different.

mdme_sadie
12-13-2011, 01:01 PM
I seem to recall Melodyne DNA also was hyped up well over a year before it actually came out, it was getting to the point that people were placing bets on whether Duke Nukem Forever would be out first...

mattball826
12-13-2011, 01:05 PM
I seem to recall Melodyne DNA also was hyped up well over a year before it actually came out, it was getting to the point that people were placing bets on whether Duke Nukem Forever would be out first...

i remember that! i have owned melodyne versions since first (very delayed) release. awesome program.

hoss33
12-13-2011, 01:12 PM
I seem to recall Melodyne DNA also was hyped up well over a year before it actually came out, it was getting to the point that people were placing bets on whether Duke Nukem Forever would be out first...
Or Chinese Democracy

I've just upgraded to Melodyne Editor 2.0.1, BTW.

7StringJazz
12-13-2011, 01:32 PM
Sometimes you just have to shoot the engineers and go to market. We all know it will be updated in the field anyway. Unless they are still revving the hardware, its all down to firmware at this point. Get it out already and let the fireworks begin! ;)

Pietro
12-13-2011, 01:37 PM
Sometimes you just have to shoot the engineers and go to market. We all know it will be updated in the field anyway. Unless they are still revving the hardware, its all down to firmware at this point. Get it out already and let the fireworks begin! ;)

I bet they know that... which is why I bet that despite what we are hearing, I would be very unsurprised if the delay is due to one particular component that can't be gotten because the factory is in a part of the world where they've recently had flooding or earthquakes and such...

In the meantime, everybody's laughing at them... but the laughing will no doubt stop when the unit ships.

hoss33
12-13-2011, 01:57 PM
but the laughing will no doubt stop when the unit ships.
Which I guess will be really soon!

CrossHair
12-13-2011, 02:04 PM
hoss33=TEASE! KILLIN ME!

guitarnet70
12-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Which I guess will be really soon!

+1;)

robertkoa
12-13-2011, 03:31 PM
There is always the chance of further delays ..and a gorilla in a tutu riding a unicycle...

Modeling has come a long,long way but will never IMO replace a real Gorilla riding a Unicycle or even a Chimpanzee..............

gtr37
12-13-2011, 03:50 PM
Modeling has come a long,long way but will never IMO replace a real Gorilla riding a Unicycle or even a Chimpanzee..............

They are are very disagreeable, and won't t stay still long enough to allow a good clean model. Always appear to have a tad too much "hair" to the tone as well

Pietro
12-13-2011, 03:56 PM
Modeling has come a long,long way but will never IMO replace a real Gorilla riding a Unicycle or even a Chimpanzee..............

Gorilla riding a Chimpanzee would be... uh... EWWWWWWW!!!!

stratzrus
12-13-2011, 06:09 PM
Again, I'm saying that the company has been saying that it will drop shortly after the first of the year.

I believe them.

zentman
12-13-2011, 06:19 PM
Again, I'm saying that the company has been saying that it will drop shortly after the first of the year.

I believe them.

They didn't say which year though...did they?

MaxTwang
12-13-2011, 06:19 PM
What's a Kemper?

zentman
12-13-2011, 06:48 PM
What's a Kemper?

It's a word that gets threads locked eventually.

gtr37
12-13-2011, 06:54 PM
Gorilla riding a Chimpanzee would be... uh... EWWWWWWW!!!!

That would be hybrid modelling and probably fatal for the chimpanzee

gtr37
12-13-2011, 06:59 PM
They didn't say which year though...did they?

People are forgetting its almost Christmas .Things are shutting down Suppliers etc .Basically it stops from Dec 15 till like mid Jan when they get back in full swing.

plus probably the most important fact the Namm show is in a month.
with Christmas and New years in between.

If I am wrong and this is in the USA on shelves for boxing day I will be shocked
I think NAMM after the holidays an in the new year would make much more sense to debut the thing (again)

Scott Peterson
12-13-2011, 07:07 PM
It's a word that gets threads locked eventually.

It's not any word that gets threads locked, it's people that get threads locked. :mmm

MaxTwang
12-13-2011, 07:59 PM
If I am wrong and this is in the USA on shelves for boxing day I will be shocked

What's boxing day?

mdme_sadie
12-13-2011, 08:01 PM
Or Chinese Democracy

I've just upgraded to Melodyne Editor 2.0.1, BTW.

Not to derail the thread, but how are you finding the update? Has the actual engine been improved at all, or does it still suffer from those artifacts and the slight dulling of the sound even when no correction has been applied?

zentman
12-13-2011, 08:02 PM
It's not any word that gets threads locked, it's people that get threads locked. :mmm

Was just joking of course.

Scott Peterson
12-13-2011, 09:38 PM
Was just joking of course.

;) :p as was I. It's people using words that gets threads locked. :D

banjoze
12-13-2011, 09:54 PM
Trying to interpret motives and calling names (fanboy, etc.) usually just goes downhill... both on the playground and in the forums... :) But, I like hearing people's perspectives personally, especially those who differ from my own. We should all learn to be more like the Italians. They know how to have a robust debate and then drink and eat as friends without hurt feelings..

mattball826
12-13-2011, 10:17 PM
Trying to interpret motives and calling names (fanboy, etc.) usually just goes downhill... both on the playground and in the forums... :) But, I like hearing people's perspectives personally, especially those who differ from my own. We should all learn to be more like the Italians. They know how to have a robust debate and then drink and eat as friends without hurt feelings..

kpa seems is now like discussing politics here. ive been called a kpa fanboy, gsp fanboy, and a tube amp fanboy (which i still prefer tube amps and say that all time). grow a pair or stay out of discussion.

a shame you cant have a discussion thread without it getting locked. go after the ones calling names instead of locking threads.

banjoze
12-13-2011, 10:56 PM
I can't tell you how many times in life the person that frustrated me the most at one point turned out to be the person I learned the most from or became my best friend later.

My point: life is too short for hurt feelings, especially when we all have more in common than we have differences. I refuse to have enemies. :)

CrossHair
12-14-2011, 03:38 AM
I want to be a fan boy...why should that bother me? I'd like to be sooo into creating raunchy metal creations with my gear that I'd go so far as to tattoo my neck with KPA or Fractal. OK :) I would prolly just put a sticker on my guitar case LOL. But you get my drift.
What happened Hoss33... you aren't a BT anymore?

Karl-Heinz
12-14-2011, 05:07 AM
What happened Hoss33... you aren't a BT anymore?

My guess is that Daniel bought the "Beta-KPA" from Hoss.

hoss33
12-14-2011, 06:21 AM
My guess is that Daniel bought the "Beta-KPA" from Hoss.
That's right.

Scott Peterson
12-14-2011, 06:24 AM
Q: you can buy/sell a beta unit?

guitarnet70
12-14-2011, 06:35 AM
Q: you can buy/sell a beta unit?

Good question... I've thought that the Beta units were remainig property of the producer and were not for sale, not talking just about Kemper here ....

Scott Peterson
12-14-2011, 07:37 AM
Good question... I've thought that the Beta units were remainig property of the producer and were not for sale, not talking just about Kemper here ....

That's how it works, at least in my experience. I've never even heard of such a thing as buying/selling a beta unit. You can't buy into a beta or sell out of one. Hardware or software. I've been beta testing for over 10 years - amps, guitars, signal processors, foot controllers, effects pedals, tuners, software programs, plug-ins, recording platforms, etc..... I've seen beta stuff sold after the fact (release) but before? :huh I am confused.

football
12-14-2011, 07:41 AM
That's right.

What made you decide to sell it?

hoss33
12-14-2011, 08:02 AM
Good question... I've thought that the Beta units were remainig property of the producer and were not for sale, not talking just about Kemper here ....
Kemper calls it the "Pioneer Program", there was no contract or NDA signed.

Why did I sell it? I have always tried the latest modellers on the market (while still retaining my small arsenal of great sounding tube amps) and moved on.
From the POD 2 through a GuitarPort and POD XTpro to Eleven Rack, Axe FX Standard and Ultra to the KPA.

I really don't "need" a big/expensive modeller unit, right now I am perfectly happy with Scuffham S-Gear and IK Multimedia AmpegSVT for (home-)studio use.

I have known Daniel for some years now from a German forum and since he currently has an Eleven Rack, an Axe FX Std. and II on his desk, I think he is an ideal "beta tester".

CrossHair
12-14-2011, 08:12 AM
Kemper calls it the "Pioneer Program", there was no contract or NDA signed.

Why did I sell it? I have always tried the latest modellers on the market (while still retaining my small arsenal of great sounding tube amps) and moved on.
From the POD 2 through a GuitarPort and POD XTpro to Eleven Rack, Axe FX Standard and Ultra to the KPA.

I really don't "need" a big/expensive modeller unit, right now I am perfectly happy with Scuffham S-Gear and IK Multimedia AmpegSVT for (home-)studio use.

I have known Daniel for some years now from a German forum and since he currently has an Eleven Rack, an Axe FX Std. and II on his desk, I think he is an ideal "beta tester".

Great! >:| so you didn't like it

hoss33
12-14-2011, 08:29 AM
Great! >:| so you didn't like it
Not true. I like it a lot and concerning the amp & cab sounds I think it is the best modelling device out there (I have no experience with the Axe FX II, though).
But I don't "need" it and can use my money on other things...no, I am not going to buy an Axe FX II ;)
Truth is: we just bought a house :bonk

CrossHair
12-14-2011, 08:43 AM
So you'd rather have your house and tube amps is what you're saying. Damn! I thought it was better than that. :*(

hoss33
12-14-2011, 08:51 AM
So you'd rather have your house and tube amps is what you're saying.
I don't want to sidetrack the thread but the house is out in the woods and there will be loud tube amps involved...

http://www.piller.at/photography/nature/kreuzberg.png

DADA
12-14-2011, 09:04 AM
That sounds perfect legitimate to me. Nice place to life BTW and I like your signature :-)

Black Squirrel
12-14-2011, 09:27 AM
I put in My kemper Pre-Order today. Looks like its Zoom G3 and Tube amp And FBT 12MA until it arrives.

sheguitarplayer
12-14-2011, 11:48 AM
Just had an email from Kemper stating I can expect my KPA next week. Yeeha.
I hope the turnaround/shipping from the dealer is in time for Christmas.

DADA
12-14-2011, 12:05 PM
Just had an email from Kemper stating I can expect my KPA next week. Yeeha.
I hope the turnaround/shipping from the dealer is in time for Christmas.

Interesting. Are you part of the beta-program or like the rest of us an end user?

fakeox
12-14-2011, 12:06 PM
Just had an email from Kemper stating I can expect my KPA next week. Yeeha.
I hope the turnaround/shipping from the dealer is in time for Christmas.
Great for you!! Lots more clips & reviews soon i guess.

sheguitarplayer
12-14-2011, 12:22 PM
Just a plain straightforward end user. Really looking forward to it.

donbarzini
12-14-2011, 12:24 PM
Just a plain straightforward end user.

are you a fully grown male individual?

DADA
12-14-2011, 12:28 PM
Just a plain straightforward end user. Really looking forward to it.
Can you share the name of this dealer and which country it concerns. I get the feeling the flood doors are close to opening.

hoss33
12-14-2011, 12:33 PM
Can you share the name of this dealer and which country it concerns.
+1

DADA, thanks for the comments above. Where do you come from?

DADA
12-14-2011, 12:38 PM
I am as Dutch as the windmills keeping the water out of this country. That is why we invented wooden shoes so we could walk over water :-)

fakeox
12-14-2011, 02:41 PM
Anyone else get happy e-mails?

guitarnet70
12-14-2011, 02:45 PM
..... ;)

hoss33
12-14-2011, 02:50 PM
..... ;)
You, too?
Thomann still says Dec 30

guitarnet70
12-14-2011, 02:53 PM
You, too?
Thomann still says Dec 30

For new orders

fakeox
12-14-2011, 03:09 PM
"The Cat REEOW FFFT,, is OUT of the bag!"


Kramer

guitarnet70
12-14-2011, 03:18 PM
For new orders

I'm on the order list since months, still after that I got on the G66 waiting list for the Axe II. It looks like I'm going to get the Kemper first.... :)

hoss33
12-14-2011, 03:21 PM
I'm on the order list since months, still after that I got on the G66 waiting list for the Axe II. It looks like I'm going to get the Kemper first.... :)
Awesome!!!

Harry Hole
12-14-2011, 03:23 PM
I'm on the order list since months, still after that I got on the G66 waiting list for the Axe II. It looks like I'm going to get the Kemper first.... :)

It ain´t over til the fat lady stops sending sorry for another unexpected delay-emails...

(pleas notice, the above is just a travesty, i.e. I have absolutely no idea about her actual BMI:p)

hoss33
12-14-2011, 03:29 PM
Which lady?

sheguitarplayer
12-14-2011, 04:08 PM
Its from the Guitar Store in Southampton, UK.
I got emails both from the dealer and from Kemper within about 10 minutes of each.

jerryratpack
12-14-2011, 05:34 PM
Harry hole said: It ain´t over til the fat lady stops sending sorry for another unexpected delay-emails...

Which lady?



Hahaha ! I am not sure if you are kidding, but that was funny !

DADA
12-15-2011, 12:49 AM
The gates are opening! So now the real fireworks can start! Brimg it on and show your experience here.

Congrats to all the new KPA owners.

donbarzini
12-15-2011, 04:11 AM
The release of Kemper Profling Amplifier in Europe will be end of december 2011. Rest of the World is January 2012. Please ask your local dealer.

http://www.thesmokingtire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/oliver-twist.jpeg

CrossHair
12-15-2011, 08:17 AM
Out of mere boredom I emailed Kemper asking whether or not I can have CK's autograph on my KPA ( L O L)
... I know I know. And any data when it'll be released to the public. Here is their reply:

thank you very much for your email and your interest in our products.
Unfortunately it's not possible yet to place an autograph from Christoph Kemper
on the KPA because the factory here in Germany is too far away from Christoph's home.
I can't comment on a release date for the US at the moment.
Please stay patient.

sheguitarplayer
12-15-2011, 04:36 PM
Ive just received the email from G66 to say I can expect shipment on an axefx2 next week.
Gonna go for it anyway as it gives me the opportunity of a hands on comparison between the axefx 2 and the kemper.
I have to say though that as the axefx2 is £630 more expensive( about 150% of the kemper price), I would expect it to be considerable better if I was to choose it over the kemper.........

DADA
12-16-2011, 01:22 AM
Sheguitarplayer,

Please inform us about your experience findings and opinions. This to help others who are in there decision stage the comming months.

Have fun and do not to forget christmas and your family!

Brick_top
12-16-2011, 02:28 AM
Ive just received the email from G66 to say I can expect shipment on an axefx2 next week.
Gonna go for it anyway as it gives me the opportunity of a hands on comparison between the axefx 2 and the kemper.
I have to say though that as the axefx2 is £630 more expensive( about 150% of the kemper price), I would expect it to be considerable better if I was to choose it over the kemper.........

This is my dilemma as well, unfortunately I don't think I'm going to be able to compare them.

sheguitarplayer
12-16-2011, 09:35 AM
Sheguitarplayer,

Please inform us about your experience findings and opinions. This to help others who are in there decision stage the comming months.

Have fun and do not to forget christmas and your family!

Yeah, will do. I was hoping to get the chance to play them both together/compare, and it looks like that is going to happen..

rdwilson
12-21-2011, 12:52 PM
my buddy & former guitar teacher brian has one of the KPA's he just recieved his updated one about 3 weeks ago, BTW back sometime last winter after namm he receved & was testing one for kemper, had it for some time, sent it back, recently got the the updated one, let me tell you, it sounds killer, iv'e tried to get it:drool , but no dice, he is selling all of his numerous amps (marshalls + lots of cool stuff) he owns a music store ) & states that he will just run the KPA into a PA..

DADA
12-21-2011, 01:52 PM
Drip... Drip...drip.....

Slowly but steadely the KPA is entering our world

bmi
12-21-2011, 10:22 PM
my buddy & former guitar teacher brian has one of the KPA's he just recieved his updated one about 3 weeks ago, BTW back sometime last winter after namm he receved & was testing one for kemper, had it for some time, sent it back, recently got the the updated one, let me tell you, it sounds killer, iv'e tried to get it:drool , but no dice, he is selling all of his numerous amps (marshalls + lots of cool stuff) he owns a music store ) & states that he will just run the KPA into a PA..
I wonder if daniel has the last update?

fremen
12-21-2011, 10:34 PM
Looks like if the cat is not out of the bag yet, the bag itself is out :)
http://nambagear.com/

hoss33
12-21-2011, 11:38 PM
I wonder if daniel has the last update?
He got it yesterday!

guitarnet70
12-22-2011, 12:47 AM
Nice one!

http://nambagear.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kemperfill-486x338.jpg

bmi
12-22-2011, 02:28 AM
He got it yesterday!
Great. ;)

journo
12-22-2011, 02:35 PM
Hi,

I just installed the latest firmware which was released today. It's all coming together and the release say "RC", which means release candidate.

Did some more profiling today. Much fun. Will do more tomorrow.

Cheers,

Mats N

bmi
12-22-2011, 02:44 PM
Do you have a text file to know what's new with this firmware?

journo
12-22-2011, 02:56 PM
Do you have a text file to know what's new with this firmware?

I have access to a file but I don't think that is for public consumption.
It's also very basic info for the beta players.

Cheers,

Mats N

Harry Hole
12-22-2011, 02:58 PM
Hi,

I just installed the latest firmware which was released today. It's all coming together and the release say "RC", which means release candidate.

Did some more profiling today. Much fun. Will do more tomorrow.

Cheers,

Mats N

Release candidate?

So it´s still quite a while to the public release...? I had hoped that it would be transported to the dealers by now.

(Or am I missing something when I translate direct from swedish...?)

m~Dan
12-22-2011, 03:52 PM
RC without any bugs == goldmaster ;)

The title of the Firmware is written in the changelog that the "early testers" got acces to.

bmi
12-22-2011, 11:35 PM
I have access to a file but I don't that is for public consumption.
It's also very basic info for the beta players.

Cheers,

Mats N
Hehe, i tried. :D

donbarzini
12-23-2011, 04:08 AM
RC without any bugs == goldmaster ;)

The title of the Firmware is written in the changelog that the "early testers" got acces to.

so it's basically a master beta?

larbear63
12-23-2011, 10:03 AM
just received this email from kemper

:mob:barf:FM:waiting



Larry,

We have not set a release date. We are working hard to get everything in place for release, in the very near future.

Sincerely,
Matthew Skaggs

Manager of Sales & Operations
--------------------------
Kemper GmbH
Königswall 16-18 | D-45657 Recklinghausen
Tel 02361-9064122 | Fax 02361-9376829

Gasp100
12-23-2011, 10:13 AM
so it's basically a master beta?

Strikes again!

donbarzini
12-23-2011, 10:49 AM
just received this email from kemper

:mob:barf:FM:waiting



Larry,

We have not set a release date. We are working hard to get everything in place for release, in the very near future.

Sincerely,
Matthew Skaggs

Manager of Sales & Operations
--------------------------
Kemper GmbH
Königswall 16-18 | D-45657 Recklinghausen
Tel 02361-9064122 | Fax 02361-9376829

they sure change their minds a lot

Pietro
12-23-2011, 10:58 AM
It's digital... which means on-again... off-again...

Gasp100
12-27-2011, 02:17 PM
The release of Kemper Profling Amplifier in Europe will be end of december 2011. Rest of the World is January 2012. Please ask your local dealer.

http://www.thesmokingtire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/oliver-twist.jpeg

Sweetwater Update:

"Current ETAs I have were updated to 01/18/12 and 01/27/12 today".

gtr37
12-27-2011, 02:22 PM
I am still Saying March ,they will bring the product to Namm get input go home then make any changes updates and start production ,IMO

donbarzini
12-27-2011, 02:32 PM
I am still Saying March ,they will bring the product to Namm get input go home then make any changes updates and start production ,IMO

You can't hear anything at NAMM. My badge is here but I don't have anything on to fasten it to.

MaxTwang
12-27-2011, 02:44 PM
There was a photo and comment on the Kemper site in June/July showing production had started. Unless it's going to ship without firmware they're going to have to install firmware and test a lot of units pretty quick to meet the claim of worldwide shipping when it's released.

hoss33
12-28-2011, 11:38 AM
This has been confirmed: Thomann and Musicstore in Germany are shipping!

Thomann got a first batch of 6 KPAs and has a backlog of 51 units. They are expecting a bigger batch next week.

ibanez270
12-28-2011, 11:51 AM
Got a call from Carl at Sweetwater. He said they will have the first shipment the end of January. He said the KPA will go fast. So keep checking the site.

Pietro
12-28-2011, 01:06 PM
AWESOME news for you early adopters... Post your reviews when you get them!

Earl Mobile
12-28-2011, 01:08 PM
just got my shipping confirmation. one of the lucky 6. :-)

clarkydaz
12-28-2011, 01:20 PM
the birds flew the german nest yesterday :rockin

DADA
12-28-2011, 01:44 PM
I just tought maybe I need to be more friendly to the AFX fan boyz for cloning their sweat made patches........ But why, I thought....... Better is it to keep it with the clones fron the real amps.

musoleum
12-28-2011, 02:33 PM
I just tought maybe I need to be more friendly to the AFX fan boyz for cloning their sweat made patches........ But why, I thought....... Better is it to keep it with the clones fron the real amps.

:huh

Could you articulate that again, but this time in English please.
I tried Google translator but it wasn't up to the task either.

fremen
12-28-2011, 07:39 PM
Google translator worked for me. It says : "I was banned from the Fractal forums :("
:rotflmao

mmcm4
12-28-2011, 07:43 PM
Google translator worked for me. It says : "I was banned from the Fractal forums :("
:rotflmao

There are Kemper fanboys and Axe-FX fanboys. Those with the AxeFX generally stick up for it and its merits. Some believe Cliff can do no wrong and has created the best modeling technology. Some of those who don't own an AxeFX (and are often from Europe where they are harder to come by due to import problems) will go out of their way to praise the Kemper and bash the Axe-FX.

Such is the life of these and any online forum.

MaxTwang
12-28-2011, 09:21 PM
This has been confirmed: Thomann and Musicstore in Germany are shipping!

Thomann got a first batch of 6 KPAs and has a backlog of 51 units. They are expecting a bigger batch next week.


Since last summer we've been hearing boasting about how Kemper will have a worldwide release with no backlog, I guess for 6 people that's true. :bonk

musoleum
12-28-2011, 10:01 PM
Google translator worked for me. It says : "I was banned from the Fractal forums :("
:rotflmao

:rotflmao

I always thought DADA was a guy until i read "her" sig!!

Explains the hormonal problems! :knitting

:stir

RayRay
12-28-2011, 10:29 PM
Since last summer we've been hearing boasting about how Kemper will have a worldwide release with no backlog, I guess for 6 people that's true. :bonk

LOL!!! I had something similar queued up, but you said it much more eloquently. :rotflmao

What a freaking joke

fakeox
12-28-2011, 11:08 PM
The nervous sniping is ramping up.

gtr37
12-28-2011, 11:10 PM
so let me understand .people have pre ordered since July .
they have 52 on back order .and they are shipping 6 at a time
Lets say every couple of weeks BUT we cannot mention a wait list because that will not happen ????

fakeox
12-28-2011, 11:21 PM
It wouldn't be the 1st time something like this has happened.

sheguitarplayer
12-29-2011, 02:09 AM
There are Kemper fanboys and Axe-FX fanboys. Those with the AxeFX generally stick up for it and its merits. Some believe Cliff can do no wrong and has created the best modeling technology. Some of those who don't own an AxeFX (and are often from Europe where they are harder to come by due to import problems) will go out of their way to praise the Kemper and bash the Axe-FX.

Such is the life of these and any online forum.
True, but it definitely works the other way. How many times over the years have you seen axefx fan boys bashing just about every other product out there. (I was an axefx user for years and this actually caused me quite a bit of embarrassment, guilt by association and all that)

hoss33
12-29-2011, 02:53 AM
Confirmed: Thomann got another batch of 26 KPAs today.

DADA
12-29-2011, 03:09 AM
:rotflmao

I always thought DADA was a guy until i read "her" sig!!

Explains the hormonal problems! :knitting

:stir

Darling,

You care for a lovely date?

Kissie

Brick_top
12-29-2011, 03:12 AM
cool... let the user reviews and clips start!

Brick_top
12-29-2011, 03:21 AM
by the way can anyone tell me if the kemper can play audio files from an external storage device pen/harddrive?

Dave Bacon
12-29-2011, 03:53 AM
Just got my shipping confirmation from Thomann!!!!

sheguitarplayer
12-29-2011, 03:56 AM
Just got the phone call from The Guitar Store today. Kemper arrived in store today, should be with me tomorrow.

Defendant
12-29-2011, 03:59 AM
...and the vapour begins to clear. Hopefully that will help drop the snide-ometer a wee bit for certain posters around here.

stratzrus
12-29-2011, 04:00 AM
Mark my words, it will ship within two weeks.Told ya'... ;)

DADA
12-29-2011, 04:08 AM
Congrats to all the new KPA owners!

Please inform us on your experiences and impressions!

timowens316
12-29-2011, 06:08 AM
Interesting how the Kemper web page doesn't show any indication of the unit shipping. I was thinking they would have some kind of user forum and profile exchange setup by the time the unit started shipping.

Pietro
12-29-2011, 06:28 AM
Interesting how the Kemper web page doesn't show any indication of the unit shipping. I was thinking they would have some kind of user forum and profile exchange setup by the time the unit started shipping.

Unless they don't want to cause panic.

I can believe it wouldn't get onto the web site so quickly.

hoss33
12-29-2011, 06:35 AM
It's in stock at Musicstore Cologne
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Kemper-Amplifier-Profiling-Amplifier-/art-GIT0022675-000

guitarnet70
12-29-2011, 07:33 AM
Confirmed: Thomann got another batch of 26 KPAs today.

...and apparently sold out already, new orders are going on the next shipment Jan 3rd

hoss33
12-29-2011, 08:19 AM
...and apparently sold out already
The backlog was 51 yesterday, so it should be down to 25 :hiP

musoleum
12-29-2011, 08:59 AM
Darling,

You care for a lovely date?

Kissie


Frankly my dear i would rather stick a fork in my eye...:p

fakeox
12-29-2011, 09:59 AM
Sinking! This thread is SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!
:drool:barf:drool:barf:drool:barf:drool:barf
:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:d rown

musoleum
12-29-2011, 11:57 AM
Sinking! This thread is SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!
:drool:barf:drool:barf:drool:barf:drool:barf
:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:drown:d rown

Nah, it's all fun! :)

You would have to be pretty sad to take any of this stuff overly serious!!

I own the Ax ll, love it..but still i like the idea behind the Kemper and truly hope it lives up to the claims made.

All the delay stuff is just part of life..it will arrive when it arrives, and hopefully the guys spending their hard earned money on the unit will be blown away!

donbarzini
12-29-2011, 12:14 PM
Not at all, it is all fun! :)

You would have to be pretty sad to take any of this stuff overly serious!!

I own the Ax ll, love it..but still i like the idea behind the Kemper and truly hope it lives up to the claims made.

All the delay stuff is just part of life..it will arrive when it arrives, and hopefully the guys spending their hard earned money on the unit will be blown away!

Hey, we all need friends in here.

I could be a friend to you...

musoleum
12-29-2011, 12:33 PM
Hey, we all need friends in here.

I could be a friend to you...



I ain't gonna count to three! Not even to one! Now shut the....up 'fore I sing you a lullaby!

:rotflmao

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 01:59 PM
Hello all

my beta testeur KPA's unit is for sell

http://cgi.ebay.fr/KEMPER-PROFILING-AMPLIFIER-/150728175731?pt=FR_YO_InstrumentsMusique_Amplis&hash=item2318197073

I ship worldwide.

Thanks

Harry Hole
12-29-2011, 02:39 PM
Hello all

my beta testeur KPA's unit is for sell

http://cgi.ebay.fr/KEMPER-PROFILING-AMPLIFIER-/150728175731?pt=FR_YO_InstrumentsMusique_Amplis&hash=item2318197073 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5336713463&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5336713463%26toolid%3D10001%26mpr e%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.fr%252FKEMPER-PROFILING-AMPLIFIER-%252F150728175731%253Fpt%253DFR_YO_InstrumentsMusi que_Amplis%2526hash%253Ditem2318197073)

I ship worldwide.

Thanks

Why are you selling it? Because of shortcomings? In that case, which?

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 03:00 PM
Why are you selling it? Because of shortcomings? In that case, which?
Because I don't find the modern high gain sound I'm looking for but it's a excellent regardind clean and crunch sounds...and I play 99% of the time Metal; and probably I'm not a digital/modeling guy....but I have to say that's a very nice piece of gear...

Harry Hole
12-29-2011, 03:24 PM
Because I don't find the modern high gain sound I'm looking for but it's a excellent regardind clean and crunch sounds...and I play 99% of the time Metal; and probably I'm not a digital/modeling guy....but I have to say that's a very nice piece of gear...

thanks for your answer.

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 03:41 PM
thanks for your answer.
;)

Also I have to mention that I have no amp to profile at home, so my feelings are only about the profiles and rigs I have dowloaded.

Pick909
12-29-2011, 03:42 PM
Because I don't find the modern high gain sound I'm looking for but it's a excellent regardind clean and crunch sounds...and I play 99% of the time Metal; and probably I'm not a digital/modeling guy....but I have to say that's a very nice piece of gear...


Did you try to profile your own tube amp first??? :huh Did not work???

Edit: Just read your last post... If I asked it's because if you are not a digital fan I assumed that you owned some tube rigs?

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 03:56 PM
Did you try to profile your own tube amp first??? :huh Did not work???

Edit: Just read your last post... If I asked it's because if you are not a digital fan I assumed that you owned some tube rigs?
I'm looking for the best home playing solution, and just regarding sound, my best rig was wampler pedals in front of a tube amp.

mdme_sadie
12-29-2011, 04:27 PM
No "Buy it now" price?

MaxTwang
12-29-2011, 05:17 PM
I'm looking for the best home playing solution, and just regarding sound, my best rig was wampler pedals in front of a tube amp.

What tube amp did you use for home use? For high-gain a Diezel VH-4 or Mesa Mark IV/V sound great at low volumes for lower gain the Hall Lil Devil is pretty incredible. I haven't found anything else that comes close for home use except a modeller.

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 05:49 PM
No "Buy it now" price?

Because, well ..it is sold:rotflmao

Gasp100
12-29-2011, 05:50 PM
Because, well ..it is sold:rotflmao

That was fast... Both your decision to sell and the sale itself

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 05:56 PM
What tube amp did you use for home use? For high-gain a Diezel VH-4 or Mesa Mark IV/V sound great at low volumes for lower gain the Hall Lil Devil is pretty incredible. I haven't found anything else that comes close for home use except a modeller.

I have used Krank rev pro jr, a french boutique amp, and finally, the more home usable was to run some wampler pedals in front of a low watts Laney.

At home, I don't need watts a lot, and my neighbours agree with that!!

Dieel VH-4 is totally the king of amp I like a lot, but can't put so much money into an amp.

I will take a look at the Hall Lil Devil, it's not the first time I hear good points about it; thanks for the info:aok

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 06:03 PM
That was fast... Both your decision to sell and the sale itself

The decision was taken from many days ago, but I've decided not to sell it before the official Thomann's release, in respect for the very good collaboration with the people at Kemper's Company. And yes, it was sold very very quickly, and I understand that, because it's a nice unit.

Black Squirrel
12-29-2011, 06:27 PM
That was fast... Both your decision to sell and the sale itself

You know I move Fast.

stormrider66
12-29-2011, 06:36 PM
:rotflmaoYou know I move Fast.

fakeox
12-29-2011, 07:09 PM
Nah, it's all fun! :)

You would have to be pretty sad to take any of this stuff overly serious!!

I own the Ax ll, love it..but still i like the idea behind the Kemper and truly hope it lives up to the claims made.

All the delay stuff is just part of life..it will arrive when it arrives, and hopefully the guys spending their hard earned money on the unit will be blown away!
Hellzyeah, it's all good!

mdme_sadie
12-30-2011, 12:52 AM
Because, well ..it is sold:rotflmao

Awwwwwwwww :(

hoss33
12-30-2011, 04:21 AM
My local dealer, Klangfarbe in Vienna, has KPAs in stock
http://www.klangfarbe.com

bmi
12-30-2011, 04:25 AM
My local dealer, Klangfarbe in Vienna, has KPAs in stock
http://www.klangfarbe.com
What's this?

http://www.klangfarbe.com/shop/news1.php?NID=966&u=50966628&h=20111230122413&

hoss33
12-30-2011, 04:28 AM
What's this?

http://www.klangfarbe.com/shop/news1.php?NID=966&u=50966628&h=20111230122413&
Looks like a "POD for iPODs"?

EDIT: Pic from the Kemper factory

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381075_350944834921846_184583711557960_1641801_146 6412834_n.jpg

guitarnet70
12-30-2011, 05:35 AM
I wanna dive in to it!!!!

irish
12-30-2011, 06:21 AM
Mine's been shipped from thomann. Should get it Monday. Seriously excited.

Pietro
12-30-2011, 07:19 AM
I'm waiting till one of you stateside guys tries it... and then sells it here... (and until I have a job again... and money...)

But I might just check this thing out once all the bleeding edge early adopters cycle through (thanks for that all you innovators!)

Congrats to those of you who are getting your units... let's have some really balanced reviews, shall we?

Defendant
12-30-2011, 07:58 AM
Looks like a "POD for iPODs"?

EDIT: Pic from the Kemper factory

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381075_350944834921846_184583711557960_1641801_146 6412834_n.jpg

http://blog.billbenac.com/blog/2009/08/26/star_wars_clone_army.jpg

rizla
12-30-2011, 09:01 AM
What's this?

http://www.klangfarbe.com/shop/news1.php?NID=966&u=50966628&h=20111230122413&
midi controller for iphone? I think

sheguitarplayer
12-30-2011, 09:07 AM
Mine arrived today. First impressions...WOW!!!
Gotta go play some more

Professor Tweed
12-30-2011, 10:03 AM
Thomann confirmed mine despatched today.

guitarnet70
12-30-2011, 10:09 AM
Thomann confirmed mine despatched today.

Mine also, :drool

gtr37
12-30-2011, 10:09 AM
Wow that pic is about 125 of them looking almost done .obviously they have been stockpiling while profiling ,thats great news for people that want them