British speakers in Twin Reverb?

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  1. rainbowgunshow

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    I'm looking to get some new speakers in my '65 TRRI, so I asked the guys at Weber for some advice. With the info I gave them on what I was looking for, they recommended one ceramic blue dog and one ceramic silver bell. It sounds like it would help cut through mixes, eliminate some of the shrill high frequencies I get with the C12k's, etc... I was basically wondering if any of you have experimented with british speakers in Fender amps and if it had good results.
     
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    i dont know. . . you may tear a hole in space/time thereby creating a vortex to another dimension.

    good luck.
     
  3. Tripower455

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    I replaced the sterile K120s in my SF Twin with Eminence Tonkers, and never looked back. Sounded awesome!
     
  4. rusty a.

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    To my ear they thin out the treble and mush your bass up...ive heard lots of good words spoken about the eminence cannabis rex for smoothing out a twin's highs but retaining the body and punch...
     
  5. rainbowgunshow

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    I think the silver bell would help as far as the mushy bass goes.
     
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    I don't have a Twin, but have a JCM2205 with a clean channel that's quite fendery ... was very close to my '64 Vibroverb before breakup. I'm in the opposite camp, always considering American speakers over Brit.

    It's a tough call, you lose the glassiness and pure cleaness in the brit speakers, but gain nice breakup that goes above and beyond what you get from amp and pedals.

    I do like the Blue Dog with strat tones, but mine is Alnico. It does have an interesting sizzly chime up top, very vintagey and a little Voxy. Alnico will really change your dynamics, ceramic may be better for the touch of single coils, but may lose the unique top end.

    The Scumback M75 100 watter was better for strat tones for me, although most like it for high gain. The voicing was close to the Blue Dog, but as I said, more touch in the dynamics (is ceramic) ... a lot of break up on this one.

    I sold my Eminence GB12, but that was a real good mix of American and UK tones. The top is very glassy. Nice break up, but not too much. Does clean to high gain well, but best at mid to low gain.

    I've tried a dozen or so brit speakers, those stand out.
     
  7. rainbowgunshow

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    Well, I primarily use an ES-335, so maybe alnico's would be a good consideration. Does anyone have any favorable experiences with british speakers in fender amps?
     
  8. pula58

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    That's funny, to me, the K-120's I have are the sweetest speakers I have ever used in a Fender blackface/silverface style amp.

    I think we all hear things so differently! To each his (or her) own!

    C'est La Tone

    P.
     
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    I used a pair of Celestion GT-75T speakers in my Bandmaster 2x12 piggyback combo for about 3 years before I sold it. Sounded like a Marshall JTM45.
     
  10. Darth Tater

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    Although that Weber combo is about as good as it gets, those speakers definitely will cost you that 'Fender' sound if that's important to you.
     
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    What he said. /\
     
  12. rainbowgunshow

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    That's what I'm afraid of. I' rather eventually get a Vox for that tone, and have more options. The guy I'm talking to at Weber says I'll retain the Fender sound but with more of a mid presence.
     
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    If the Twin wasn't already a beast to haul, I'd load it with 1 EVM12L and 1 FANE AXA12,
     
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    For sure!

    To be fair, mine might've been a bit tired. I traded the amp off about 6 months ago, and included the JBLs, and the new owner still has the Tonkers in it.
     
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    Well, maybe. The Silver Bell has very little..if any..sparkle and spank, but plenty of strong bottom end. The Dog has a very tight bottom end, LOTS of mids, and chimey highs. I run a Sig 10 next to my Silver Bell for when I want that Fender punch & sparkle (I do not run them together). I'll be upgrading that Sig to a 12F125A when budget allows though.
     
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    I ran V30's in my '69 Twin. They were all that and a bag of chips.

    My Bud fills his 2-12 Bassman cabs with V30's or the WGS Vet 30's

    Prosonics, Dual Pro's and Tonemaster's were Celestion equipped right from the factory.

    The secret's out, Celestion's are the BOMB in a Fender circuit
     
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    Currently running mine into a port city cab with a Reeves vintage purple (fane crecendo). It sounds freaking good.
     
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    Fanes have a great tight low end even when pushed, lots of crisp detail through the mids
    and plenty of sparkle and chime on the top end but no harshness.
     
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    Dang. Imagine how much better a GOOD speaker would sound then :)
     
  20. FFTT

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    Rim shot! :)

    My neighbor had an original U.K. V-30 in his 65 DR and it was O.K. at low volume, but once you started pushing the amp it was ice picks even with
    a well broken in original.

    The new Chinese sweat shop V-30's might be worth about $29.00 each if that
    bulk wholesale.

    In a Weber British voiced speaker for a hi powered Twin, I would
    go for a pair of their Fane Axis 12, FC12 or Thames.

    In a real Fane, I'd go for either a pair of Medusa 150C's or a blend
    of a Medusa with and AXA12.

    The Studio 12 would be exceptional, but they weigh 17 pounds each.
     

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