Cap Value for Strat: .022 or .047?

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  1. Rexfordbridge

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    .022uF for bright bite, .047uF for warmer and a bit darker. Don't forget to use your V&T controls to dial in your tone.
     
  3. Rexfordbridge

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    Do you happen to know what the stock cap strength would be for an American Standard Strat from 2000?
     
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    Probably a .022uF poly

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    Caps are cheap and easy to change out. You should try a couple to see what works best for your style. I have a .1uF ceramic in one Strat, and a .05uF in another. I just like ceramic caps. They really start to affect tone with the control at around 7 and below. 10 is like totally out of the circuit.

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  5. gmann

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    I like .022 for Strats. Lots of the older ones came with .01. If your handy with a soldering iron they're easy to change out and you can experiment and see what you like best.
     
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    Personally, I like 0.047uf for my Strats. I would have never thought that I would end up on that value until I soldered up some leads to the tone pot and tried several different caps.

    I'm with Gmann. Try different caps (they're cheap).
     
  7. Pearly Gator

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    Install a pair of clip leads where the cap goes and let them hang out from under the pickguard. Use this to test a boat load of caps to find the one that sounds right to you. This is because different caps will yield different tones with different pickups. Too many variables otherwise.
     
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    When I had stratocaster I used a .047
     
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    It's worth noting that in theory caps won't have any effect on your tone when your tone pot is on 10.
     
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    I like this value for Fenders in general.
     
  11. Steve Dallas

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    Not true if you are using 250K pots. Hook up a meter and see for yourself.
     
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    .0047 for single pickups, .01 for paralleled pickups. So, an order of magnitude smaller than the .047.

    I've never understood why the stock cap values in guitars were designed to make it sound like your amp was burried in the yard. Far too large IMO.
     
  13. Mayo5

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    Get a push-pull pot for your tone pot and use them both. See which one you like, and try out different values.
     
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    I am going to switch the strat with Van Zandts to 047

    They may be easy to change but a PIA to remove strings, pickguard..etc

    I am never pleased with strat tone controls cause I would like more variance
     
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    I settled on .033
     
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    I think it's guitar-dependant and comes down to personal choice. I really like .047uF in my partscaster.
     
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    Forgot to mention that I like either .01 or .022 depending on the guitar and pickups. Anything bigger than that and it sounds like I am choking off the tone rather than adjusting it.
     
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    Right, the bottom line is try various values. But as long as you're gonna do that, here's a thought. They keys to the nice results I've gotten from RS Guitarworks parts are that their volume pots are always a little higher than the advertised impedance (the 500k Super Pot I put in my Hamer was actually 560k); and they often suggest a cap value one step lower than you'd expect -- they recommended a .015 for my Hamer with the JB/59 combo. I guess their strategy is "Let as much tone come through at 10 and 10 as possible and then let the good-quality pot and cap do their job over the whole taper." In other words, don't be afraid to open up your guitar.

    So now, even when I don't want to spend RS dollars on a guitar, I dig around for a CTS volume pot that's at or above its stamped value, and I'll always try smaller and smaller caps until I don't like the results.

    Does this sound like what you guys do?
     
  19. kevinhifi

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    It really depends on the amp. I dial my amp to be way on the bright side and then boost it with even more high end. Then I roll my tone knob down to taste and get some great sparkly sounds. I find that I get nice dynamics this way and a really wide range of sounds via the tone and volume knobs.

    Me too, for both my Strat and my Tele.
     
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    I like .022 for Black Sabbath type rhythm.
    .047uf is good for dark, fuzzed out lead playing.
     

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