Gibson Government Series SG

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  1. puffin

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    Get off yer high horse, buddy - YOU are characterizing the government as a bully by saying you admire HJ for not taking this lying down.

    The FACTS are that Gibson PAID hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines and FORFEITED hundreds of thousands of dollars in rosewood and ebony AFTER ADMITTING THAT THEY HAD PROCURED THE WOOD ILLEGALLY.

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  2. SG_Seth

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    You should read his post about fallacious reasoning again. And again. And again. Hopefully it will sink in.
     
  3. JDutch

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    First, settlement =/= guilt. Second, even if all of the facts are as you stated them, I find it hard to believe that people are so offended, and that they'd take so much pleasure in a company being raided and its property being confiscated, just because that corporation bought some wood then cut it. Does TPG have a large contingent of Indian rosewood farmers?
     
  4. SG_Seth

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    Then you are choosing to alienate yourself from the brand. Not the other way around.
     
  5. puffin

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    "Straw dog", indeed.

    The settlement was an admission of guilt.

    If the facts are not as I stated them, please bring it to my attention.

    Nobody wants an American company to suffer, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna jump on some anti-government bandwagon because Henry J f#cked-up and then whined about it.
     
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  6. DualRectifier

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    Should have been a Les Paul, I'd have been all over it
     
  7. DGDGBD

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    what is everyone getting so huffy about?
     
  8. Silver

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    People in having different opinions shocker.


    There are Les Pauls and Explorers too.
     
  9. fisticuffs

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    To all you Henry supporters out there how do you reconcile your position with this:
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    Clearly this man is guilty of a crime even if you throw out the one the raid was about.
     
  10. puffin

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    Re: Huffiness...

    The spiel in the OP's link suggests that the government returned the wood it seized from Gibson in 2011, presumably because the government had no case:

    "Grab a guitar destined to be a collectible with the limited-edition Gibson Government Series SG solidbody electric guitar. In August of 2011 the US Government raided the Gibson factory in Nashville and seized a large amount of wood. The seized wood, mostly rosewood, was eventually returned..."

    In fact, Gibson forfeited hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of rosewood and ebony, in addition to paying hundreds of thousands in fines.

    Just illuminating the lie that Gibson, or Sweetwater, are perpetuating...there certainly is a market that wants to hear what they are peddling.
     
  11. big mike

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    Since this is nothing but political over and over again.
    Closed.
     
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