Has anyone used the dirt cheap Weber Signature 8" speakers for a Champ?

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  1. ledzep618

    ledzep618 Member

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    My SF Vibro Champ speaker tore recently and I'm looking for a replacement that won't break the bank - I have a WGS G8C but am not crazy about it, it's a far cry from the original speaker that was there and it sounds very agressive and not nearly as smooth. I'm looking for mellow low volume cleans. I only use this amp around the house and don't really feel like putting tons of cash into it.

    I found a lot of love on TDPRI for the following:
    http://www.music123.com/accessories/weber-speakers-signature-series-ceramic-8-15-watt-8-speaker

    They're so cheap. Michael Swart uses them in the SpaceTone 6v6SE. I want to believe, and will probably just grab one for $25 bucks, but wanted to know if there are any users here?
     
  2. DRS

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    I stuck the Alnico Weber 8" sig in my Champ 600 and I love it.
     
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    I've heard those in a Champ and they are nice, especially for the $. That said, I prefer the 8A100 or 8A125, but they are pricey.
     
  5. DT7

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    All the ceramics I tried had a certain kind of pushy aspect to them. Whatever you choose, I suggest alnico for the Champ.
     
  6. DigitalHater

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    I've had a silverface Fender Champ for years, I never really liked it too much. I always wanted to do a bunch of mods to it to bring some life in to it. Its cleans were kinda thin, there were no mids, if you turned it up too much it would flub out something ugly, and it did not take pedals well. I guess I left it alone because it was in such nice condition and I didn't want to molest such a clean vintage amp. One day I was messing with it and decided to take the speaker out (don't really know why) and the speaker surround was 'bonded' with the baffle board - wound up tearing the speaker. Not the end of the world, I had been planning on replacing the speaker so I went ahead and ordered a replacement.

    I slapped in the Weber 8inch alnico blue pup and that little champ became my most used amplifier. It's what I grab on my way to a jam (unless I know there's a loud drummer), and essentially become the only amp I use when practicing at home. Changing the speaker cured all the complaints I had with the amp in its original form. Now I can turn it up and enjoy the single-ended overdrive without the speaker giving out and imparting ugly cone distortion over the top. It suddenly handles pedals being in front of it without mushing up. The cleans are crisper while being fuller, I could go on and on.

    I've had nothing but good experiences from Weber speakers, I'm a total fanboy. I'm sure their signature series is good, though I have no experience with them. The alnico blue pup improved my silverface champ in every single way, I can't stress that enough.
     
  7. tonesurf

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    yes, it is a great replacement, have a friend that did the same with his SF Champ and it was an excellent replacement, just what the dr. ordered, say goodbye to $25
     
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    the 8A100 or 8A125 are well worth the coin, I use them in my small amps,
    they will also fit into a tweed champ, all you do is move the OT over to the other side of the chassis and it fits right in. The holes are already pre-drilled from the factory, so you are using the holes that are there. I have the 8A100 3.2 ohm in the Tweed Champ. Sell something, save-up, get the ALNiCo 100 or 125.
     
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    I have one in a tweed champ clone. I'm very happy with it. The Weber sig series just seems so... right with tweed amps, so natural.
     
  10. ledzep618

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    Thanks for all the answers guys, I'm think I'm gonna go ahead and grab one of the Alnicos...any opinions on the smooth versus ribbed cone?
     
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    Smooth cone - earlier breakup
    Ribbed cone - later breakup

    I choose smooth.
     
  12. alexanderplatz

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    I have an 8" Weber alnico sig speaker in my SFVC and I dig it. No thoughts about changing it.

    I think the main thing about smooth cone vs ribbed cone is that the smooth cone is going to break up sooner and the ribbed cone will stay clean longer as you turn up the volume. (Don't quote me on that though.) So whichever you prefer.
     
  13. DRS

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    The ribbed cone lets her let go faster . . .
     
  14. DRS

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    Seriously folks, I ordered the ribbed cone since, in my C600, I'd already taken out the BF tone circuit so it's breaks up super fast to begin with.
     
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    I had a Sig 8 ceramic in my VC for a while and liked it, but replaced it with a 8A125 (I think) Weber, which is a keeper.
     
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    I have a Gibson GA-5 Les Paul Jr amp which comes with a Weber Sig Ceramic 8" smooth cone, it has a great 50's blues tone.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQScFBb0WhA
    This demo also shows the Weber speaker with a tweed champ clone.
     
  17. GuitarsFromMars

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    A Weber Sig 8 ceramic is just fine and sounds great. Power tube selection is more of an issue (Thanks Mitch!).
     
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    The Sig 8 Alnico is just killer in the vintage Champ circuit:

    - full-bodied cleans (as crisp and bright or as syrup-y and dark as you want w/ single coils)

    - takes all manner of pedals incl. high gain fuzzes very well, holding the lows together without too much sizzle on top

    - breaks up at higher volumes awesomely: Layla all the way.

    Can't think of a better speaker in an old Champ. DESTROYS the Jensen Alnico RI to my ear.
     
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    Ribbed - for her pleasure ;)

    Seriously, for the prices on the Weber Sig stuff, it's stupid not to try them.
     
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    I have 2 Weber 10s alnico in a 2x10 combo with silverface vibro champ and it's awesome. Great value speakers.
     

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