Marshall 1965B 4x10 Cab - YOWSA!!!

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  1. Troubleman

    Troubleman Gold Supporting Member

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    I finally bit the bullet and bought a 4x10 Marshall cabinet (thanks YUP!!!!) – Model 1965B, straight front. It is very bad-back friendly and pops into the trunk of almost any car with ease. I've this approach/avoidance to them, and to be honest I don’t know why. Fear that maybe this was a “toy” cabinet? I dunno… My Budda Twinmaster combo (the killer) has 4x10s, my favorite amp before that was a particularly gnarly 1968 Fender Super Reverb (which I wish I hadn’t sold) with 4x10s. I don’t know what the hang-up was: 4x10s is my sound.

    I got home from work and spirited the cab down to my “dungeon” in the basement. I pretty much tore the box open, positioned the cabinet, and plugged in my Budda Super Drive 45. May as well go for the throat – that’s what I’m gonna gig with. Either it works with that head or it’s a bust. Well… it worked quite well. The Super Drive head is a full-sized one; it is a bit wider than the 4x10 cab, but not too much so. It’ll sit there atop the 1965B without a problem during gigs. The cab is a bit bassier than I thought it’d be. Even with a fairly bright amp like the Super Drive 45, it had plenty of bottom-end. I grabbed my current favorite mutt-Strat: an Eric Johnson Signature Model with an early (one of the first ones) Stevie Ray Vaughan signature model neck. After selecting the clean channel fiddling with the EQ and gain controls I found a balance I liked – nice chime and ring, with a decent amount of punch. Time to see what it could do…. As it turns out – plenty. It does what a closed-back Marshall cab should do. It can get amazingly loud for such a small cabinet, and it didn’t rattle or get boxy. Even with enough volume to cause the pant legs of my slacks to move in a sound-wave, it hung in there. It’s like a 4x12 cab that’s been soaked in hot water – it shrank, but it still delivers the goods. I got great steely Strat tones with the guitar’s volume rolled back, and a great slightly-dirty grind with the guitar’s volume up full. Changing to the SD45’s dirty channel elicited smiles aplenty. That amp has a fierce attack, and the cab stayed right with it, delivering a very 4x12 Marshall cab-like response, but at a reduced volume. This thing is made for smaller clubs! I think my band mates will be really, really pleased to see it. I plugged in a Full Drive 2 (blue one with 3-position switch) and played around for awhile, then switched to a Fulltone OCD (ver2). The SD45/Marshall 1965B combination with a Strat seems to like the OCD. There was no hint of fizziness or buzziness in the tone at all, even with the gain fully up and the “HP” engaged. COOL!!!
    Next up, I switched to a Fuchs Blackjack 21 head and plugged in the EJ/SRV Strat. After finding the right EQ settings (treble and bass up, mids pulled back about 30%), I turned the BJ21’s volume knob up to about 7 or 8 and was greeted with great grind and crunch – very warm and organic sounding, and surprisingly large from such a small cabinet. I added the Fulldrive 2 and resumed shenanigans: very nice sound. I’m gonna really dig this rig in very small rooms and at rehearsal – lots of bark and snap with the 3-position switch in the middle position, more definition in position one, and more compression and sing in position three. Just for grins I got my 1961 Strat out of its case and plugged it in. Whoooo Baby!!! Instant SRV with the FD2 or “Blues Deluxe-esque” Joe Bonamassa-in-a-box with the OCD. Unfortunately I had to shut everything down after about 10 mins of this combination. It was 10PM (bedtime for my kids), and the Mrs. Was standing in the doorway tapping her foot…

    I can’t wait to get home to play with the rig tonight - there are more guitars to run through it, and it hasn't seen my full pedal board yet. I gotta find something to get clips recorded (hopin’ the birthday bunny brings me a Zoom H4 later this month); I'll post 'em as soon as I can.... If I can stop playing and grinnin' like and idiot long enough to record.:D

    Why did I hesitate pulling the trigger on a little Marshall 4x10 cab for so long? This thing has cajones….:AOK


    Life is good...:BEER

    Peace,

    jb
     
  2. dewman

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    Did the cab have original speakers? Is the Budda a bright amp-I haven't heard one yet?

    I like the portability factor and price of these cabs. I might pick one up soon after I nail which 4x12 I want..
     
  3. Troubleman

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    Stock speakers, and they rock!
    The Budda SuperDrive 45 is a bright amp; not to be confused with the Super Drive 30, which is actually kinda dark-sounding (in a good way).

    jb
     
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    yeah I heard these cabs match well with bright amps...Any comments on how loud or effcient the speakers are in this cab. How does it compare volume wise with a 2x12 or 4x12 of a known speaker like a greenbac or vintage 30? enjoy man- I'll get one once I get my 4x12!
     
  5. JoeP

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    I have a 1965B loaded with Dr Z 10'' speakers, and it KILLS with the Z amp. But, the Z speakers, don't allow it to be ''bad back friendly"........
     
  6. rastaman

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    I have the A "slant" cab. They are GREAT cabs. I've been using a 2061X through it and the speakers are WELL broken in. I'm thinking about replacing the speakers w/ some Vintage 10's or just selling it because I have an OS Bogner 2x12. What I'm getting at is I have a dark amp into a dark cab. It's such a light weight cool cab though. It's going to be hard to part with it. As bright as I've heard Buddas are, I'll bet they go great together.
     
  7. thepimpdaddy

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    You guys keep talking like this, and we won't be able to afford any more of those things (1965a here, Celestion G10L-35 x 4) :)

    Hush yo moufs . . .
     
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    I bought and returned mine in the same day, go figure. My Zinky 2x12 gets the job done.
     
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    You bought and returned your what?? Speakers? and/or Cab?
     
  11. Jube2550

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    Another fan of the 1965 cabs here. I don't think the now defunct Rhythm City music store in Atlanta could give them away back in the 80s. When I first heard and saw them my ears told me better and this is from a 4 x 12 fan.
     
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    Nice info- Vintage 10s are nice speakers, but you really have to crank them to get the best out of them.
     
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    [​IMG]70's vintage full size marshall cab but a 4x10 with 15 watt celestions! yup a 60 watt cab...............it's sound is best described as thunderous.......amazing!:RoCkIn
     
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    I've got a 1965b that I have used with my SF bassman head for years. Great rig but its still too much to lug for me and I prefer open back cabs onstage because they are less directional and allow me to hear myself better. Anyway I think I'm going to sell the 4x10. What's the going rate?
     
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    ah i totally miss my 1965A cabinet. it sounded absolutely excellent. id say it sounded just as good(but different) as my orange cabinet. i really want to find another marshall 1965A or B. :(
     
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    I can handle that.... :RoCkIn
     
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    I agree- what a great cab! I picked mine up in a trade and was planning on getting a 2x12 after but I don't feel the need now. Light, powerful and excellent sounding- the 1965b is perfect for me. :RoCkIn
     
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    I bought a 4x10 marshall cab, the angled one. It sounded ok, but my Zinky 2x12 sounded better to me, so I returned the marshall.

    The way people rave about them, I thought I scored big time, but it didn't seem worth keeping.
     
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    A lot of the mojo in these cabinets is what amp head you're feeding it with. My Traynors have HUGE bottom end that doesn't need 12" speakers for enhanced bass. The faster reflex of the 10" speakers mates beautifully with a hi-fi amp, great instant response to my playing. 1965a is 140 watt cabinet, plenty of speaker headroom for this amp which also has a goodly amount of clean headroom.

    Different strokes for different folks - what speakers does your Zinky 2x12 carry?
     
  20. dewman

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    200-350$ loaded with original speakers in good to excellent condition. Average price I've seen has been 250$

     

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