Please help with el-84 tube recomendation

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  1. DylanGuitar

    DylanGuitar Member

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    Looking for an el-84 recommendation.
    What I'm looking for is:
    Lot's of headroom
    Big and tight bass
    Present highs without sounding brittle.
    Will not crap out or overcompress when hit with overdrive/distortion or with hot pickups. (Very important)
    Also, I play a lot, so I'm not really looking to spend an arm and a leg on NOS tubes that I'm going to have to be constantly replacing. So I guess my choices are limited to current production tubes.


    I've been using JJ's and have been relatively happy, but as I have never really tried a bunch of other tubes to make a comparison, I just want to get a feel for what's out there.

    Thanks!

    Dylan
     
  2. Ming Chow

    Ming Chow Senior Member

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    With my 2 EL84 amps, AC15 and Club Royale. Well 3 if you count my VJ. I've done JJ, EHX, Sovtek, GT and Mullard. I keep going back to the JJs.
     
  3. spyeman

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    JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ = very good, not going to find better in new production.
     
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    Has anyone used the reissue Mullard EL 84's? I've been using the JJ's and I'm happy with them but maybe want to try something else.
     
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    arthur rotfeld Member

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    I'm not so sure it has all those qualities that you are looking for (for example big tight bass isn't exactly what I think of when I think EL-84), but I got turned onto TAD tubes here and I've been very pleased with them.
     
  7. tcmono

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    I've got the Mullards in a Blues Jr., early breakup, lots of comression - but that's what I was looking for, so I really like them.

    JJ's are best for what you're looking for.
     
  8. slider313

    slider313 Silver Supporting Member

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    Try a set of SovTek EL84M's. I believe these are the only tube Matchless will use in their EL84 amps. They are a more robust tube and can take up to 400 volts.
     
  9. rockon1

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    +1 but try the older versions.

    http://thetubestore.com/russianel84m.html

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  10. spyeman

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    I will say I bought a pair of Roznov's which are early JJ/Tesla's, made in the 60's 70's, they are relatively cheap at $25 a tube and sound great as well as current JJ's.
     
  11. sevenflatfive

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    I'm not trying to de-rail the post but it sounds like you want bigger bottle tubes (ie el-34s, KT-77s, 6L6, etc... These can provide more "oomph" and less sparkle.

    what amp are you using? Perhaps you could try a higher powered amp by the same manufacturer (with the bigger tubes) to compare?

    If I'm off-base... than just ignore me... :)
     
  12. neville5000

    neville5000 Supporting Member

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    +1 on the JJ's.
     
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    Sounds like you're looking for a 6L6 ;)

    Seriously though, I like the JJ's too.
     
  14. pickaguitar

    pickaguitar 2011 TGP Silver Medalist Silver Supporting Member

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    Every JJ I have bought rattle :(

    WTF!!!
     
  15. DylanGuitar

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    thanks for the input everyone. I'll check out the older sovtechs.
    Not looking to change the amp. Just want to get a sense of how other el84's will react with my amp. Maybe swapping out v1 will effect the bass as well?

    thanks

    Dylan
     
  16. deluxe83

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    take yer jj's and throw em in the garbage. :)
    seriously, i got some 70's Saratov EL84M's that are unreal. Very mullard-esque. and the quad cost me $60. They will put a smile on your face. Give Terry Kilgore a call. He can hook you up with a quad. If you need his info, send me a PM.
     
  17. cugel

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    i use TADs
    no complaints but i want to try some russian military grades from tejas tubes (no affil)
     
  18. rockon1

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    Are those the same as these? Bob

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  19. Mike9

    Mike9 Gold Supporting Member

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    I have a quad of those and they are very robust tubes. I can sell them if you need them. I have a quad of General Rohren (Reflektor) Russian tubes and they are nice too (also for sale), but the quad of Telam's I have in my UG30 prototype are extremely nice.
     
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    +100000 on the Saratovs from Terry. I put them in my TW Rocket clone and they made a world of difference. They replaced some Russian Mullards.
     

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