Rolling fretboard edge stupid question

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  1. homerayvaughan

    homerayvaughan Supporting Member

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    I have an Allparts neck that I am rolling the fretboard edges with the shaft of a screwdriver. Does it make any difference which direction I go? Like, should I take the screwdriver and go up and down the length of the neck or side to side? Or is my wording confusing? :messedup
     
  2. Joe_Steeler

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    I prefer to go up and down.
    IMO it follows the natural path of the fretting hand up and down the neck.
    If you go across you will have several perpendicular passes to cover the larger fret spaces. At that point if you do don't overlap perfectly you will have some rough edges.

    Aren't rolled fb edge necks the best!!!!!!!
     
  3. stormin1155

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    I've not had as much success rolling the edges as scraping the edges. When rolling them, you are compressing the wood... maple, rosewood and ebony are pretty dense, and there's not much room for compression. By taking a sharp straight edge and lightly scraping the edges you can get exactly the edge shape you want. The final step may be rolling to give it the finish you want.
     
  4. SgtThump

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    Heck, I always thought that was done with sandpaper? I didn't think the term "rolled edges" really meant rolling something on the edges! LOL
     
  5. homerayvaughan

    homerayvaughan Supporting Member

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    Well it seemed like the most non-destructive way to achieve the effect - It'd be real easy for me to screw it up with a razor blade or sandpaper. Took about 20 minutes of elbow grease. I may do it more later, didn't go overboard, made the edges not so sharp and new feeling.
     
  6. 440gtx6pak

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    I like to use a sanding block with 600 grit sandpaper. With the 'block' used longways, and at an angle, you just cannot do damage. Another trick is to do this in the winter with low humidity, so the fret ends are sticking out their worst. Doing it then really achieves a nice non-sharp feel without cutting too much into the wood.
     
  7. OM Flyer

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    I've never tried it, but the ones I've seen were done with something of a larger diameter, like a spark plug socket.
     
  8. Barefoot

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    Some time ago I read that the indented 1/2 round side profile found on the ceramic end of some spark plugs was the thing to use.

    Haven't used anything else since. Works great. Predictable shape and smooth as glass. It compresses instead of removes material. 100% recommended.

    Go slow, take your time. Do a little each day till you get what you want.

    W/regards to using sand paper...2000 grit...fret ends and rosewoood look/feel like glass.

    Can't say too much about going slow and doing just a little at a time. If you go too far there's no going back....
     
  9. Phoebe

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    Perfectly put.

    It's essential to remove instead of compress.
     
  10. gkoelling

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    This is how I do it.
     
  11. homerayvaughan

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    So for those of you who recommend sandpaper - is the "compression" method wrong? I just felt I could do more harm sanding or scraping - like it was said, once you go too far there's no going back.
     
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    rmconner80 Cantankerous Luddite Silver Supporting Member

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    I used 600 grit also, my finger, some light pressure, and my best judgement. Works great. A sanding block is best practice but the space between frets keeps getting smaller down the neck...
     
  13. pickaguitar

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    compression for moi
     
  14. gkoelling

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    It feel sanding is closer to natural wear than compression. Imagine how hard you'd have to grab the neck through playing to compress the fret board. Play wear is done through friction, not compression.
     
  15. eyeball987

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    Someone should post a pictorial about this. I am completely lost as to how this would be done. The sandpaper/scraping method I can kind of picture.
     
  16. John Bell

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    Been doing this to my strats for many years.Mine are more like a Tyler.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. eyeball987

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    OK. Got it. Thanks.
     
  18. Brett Valentine

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    I did mine with a small, very fine whet stone (one that you'd use to fine tune the metal running edges on skis).

    Did a beautifuol job on my Standard Tele.
     
  19. 440gtx6pak

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    Here is how I do it. I am not saying its the only way, but it works and is safe. Of course you should take the neck off, if possible. I use 600 grit sandpaper in a common rubber sanding block. That grit is a fine compromise between speed and 'cut' for this particular type job. This method also does a better job to get rid of the fretwire's sharp edges. Like I said I actually prefer to do this in the low humidity winter as the fretwire sticks out more and protects from taking off too much wood.

    This method kills two birds with one stone of both sharp fret ends and the fretboard rolling.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Mad Monk

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    Can you roll the edges on a bound fretboard?
     

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