Signature Guitars That Should Be, But Aren't....

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  1. Stratmagik87

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    This is just pure grunge fanhood here... but I cold jive with a Dean Deleo '78 Les Paul standard... wine red/ black. I say this because I love his playing & he also modded his quite a bit.

    Also, a Mike McCready strat? 3-tone burst, RW board, mint green pickguard. That would kill.

    Jerry Cantrell already has one, so no need to add there.
     
  2. jerrycampbell

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    Madonna Les Paul.
     
  3. Whiskeyrebel

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    How about a George Thorogood ES125TDC?
     
  4. Deathmonkey

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    A lot of these players just play pretty stock models. Doing a signature model just because a guy changed the knobs or had it refinshed or something isn't really worth it. These aren't supposed to be awards, they're supposed to offer a new instrument with specs not offered by other models in the line. I mean, the Derek Trucks model is a 61 SG RI with half a vibrato nailed to it. Gibson just went Custom Shop with a model with a PANCAKE BODY (Ace's Budokan). WTF. It's gone way too far.

    Now, my main guitars are signature models (Allan Holdsworth), but they are designed from the ground up to be something different. Conversely, I could probably get 99% of my Gatton tele with a 52 RI and a set of Bardens.

    Really, unless the artist has ideas that result in a truly unique instrument - or, I'll grant you, has a unique visual scheme or iconic instrument like the Joe Strummer tele or the Alvin Lee 335 - making 1000 models of essentially a stock guitar with $10 worth of hardware swaps or a racing stripe is pretty weak.


    All that said, I'd buy a Joe Bonamassa Firepaul in a second.
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  5. Polynitro

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    they are very similar...I think they call it micawbre as Keef didnt sign off on it. I know my neck is labeled 52SPL (52 special) same specs as thier 52 tele but with different tuners as keef had also



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  6. Whiskeyrebel

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    I've seen pics of the opposite - a reverse Firebird with a LPC headstock. Was that associated with anyone famous?
     
  7. Pearly Gator

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    Hey Fender! We want a Jimmy Page Dragoncaster!


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  8. ltsmash1200

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    YES.
     
  9. Polynitro

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    um...hell yeah!


     
  10. Fitzer

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    I asked Mike Eldred about a Frusciante Strat several months ago. He said that the Custom Shop approached John about making a signature Strat and that he declined.
     
  11. jimbugg

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    Yeah, I just got the same from him. Honestly I couldn't see John being interested in anything like that, but it was worth a shot...just need to find a really cool Fiesta Red Strat.
     
  12. Fitzer

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    My personal favorite Strat of his is his beat to crap Olympic White '61. So sexy.

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    The Otis Rush signature Epiphone Riviera
     
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    Oops, my college roommate had a LP Recording, no Bigsby. A Bigsby would not have affected his choice.:nuts
     
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    Righty, turned around. Yup.






    (maybe it'll get me his vibrato!)



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  17. duckbunny

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    Righty, turned around. Yup.
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  18. The REAL Rocker

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    ----------I really don't think that it would be successful If they had gave Frusciante a signature model, at least not without SERIOUS and THOUGHTFUL design questions. First off, I am not a fan of Mr. Frusciante, but I don't DISLIKE him either. I am not commenting about his talent, merely pointing out the guitar buying business we are living in currently, without BIAS. Okay, disclaimer given, so let us begin..............

    There are several problems that Fender would have in selling a signature strat for Mr. Frusciante, some small than others, and some major league headaches to deal with. First of all, Fender is a CORPORATION looking to sell guitars, and is always looking for signature endorsers who will SELL GUITARS, and the goal is to NOT just fill the stores with guitars that will sit there. The Peppers are a band that has had great success, but with many guitarists at the helm. John has been one of many, and even Peppers fans fight over who was a better fit for the band(and some have pointed out that John was part of the "pop hit/hit packaged" era of the band, and they greatly prefer the eras when the Chili Peppers and top-40 radio had NOTHING TO DO with one another). Will ALL the Peppers fans out there who love Hillel(forgive me if I mis-spell his name), or the fans of any of the OTHER Peppers guitarists rush out to buy the guitar of the guy that ISN'T THEIR FAVORITE(or the guy that they don't like?).

    Second, while Mr Frusciante is popular, will that transfer into his fans being willing to spend BIG BUCKS for his signature model? A Fusciante Relic in a run of 50 will easily start over 3 thousand dollars, and can run well OVER four thousand, even with basic specs. Will Mr Frusciante's fans be willing to step up to the PLATE and spend big?? Again, doubtful. I think what a lot of Peppers fans are hoping that Fender actually DOES create this signature model, then someone ELSE buys it new and takes the hit, and THEN(hopefully?:eek:)sells the guitar so they can buy it cheap(under a grand:facepalm). There are those who will swear up and down about how Chili fans will cpme up with the money, but will they really?

    Third, you mention all the different models that they could do for Frusciante fans, with the custom shops, and possible lower-price USA model. Getting away from cost for a moment, let's think about this for a second................The VAST MAJORITY of Frusciante fans will want their guitars to look LIKE HIS, and will have little interest in a brand-new model that does NOT the appearance of John's without the aged and played, worn condition. It is fairly obvious that the "new" signature model of John would have to be a relic, or a aged custom shop to be successful, and will Frusciante fans be WILLING to spend the bucks(remember paragraph number two we just covered). A cheaper USA model without the wear and actual appearance of John "REAL" model will not garner much interest, and since we all remember Fender the corporation operates to MAKE MONEY, I have a hard time believing they want this model out there.

    Finally, If we ARE going to have John's model out there, one question................WHICH ONE WILL IT BE??? The OP mentioned Fiesta Red or Sunburst(guitars in both colors was mentioned by the OP), but what happens If people like the White strat with all the wear he uses better? He played that guitar thru arguably his most popular period with the band, so why would Fender want or need a Frusciante in several colors, since it is debatable IF they would sell? Fender wants the color that will be the biggest hit(and cheapest to produce!), and which one that should be will cause a whole lot of discussing and frayed nerves among his fans. I suspect MANY, MANY FANS of John would much prefer the Gretsch White Falcon he's playing, and remember, a divide fan base means less guitars being BOUGHT, and less Fender profit out there.....................The REAL Rocker.
     
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  19. Trickstaaah

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    Yep.

    I think it's also interesting that the guitar that started the whole "signature" trend in the mainstream -- the Clapton Strat -- may have looked like Blackie, but it had the mid-boost, which Clapton had only been using for a short time after deciding to retire Blackie. So the Clapton Strat was a signature model in that it was modelled after what he planned to use, not what he'd been using since 1970 or so.
     
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