That George Lynch midrange chewiness......how does he get it ?

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  1. BryanMatthews

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    I could have chosen any track from that masterpiece album from 1987, every song is full of the fattest , chewiest midrange that just makes my adrenaline rush. Lynch`s guitars are solid maple, there is no mahogany body with maple cap being played, yet the guitar sounds so glorious in the mids with more chewiness that the fat on the outside of a sirloin steak .:bow

    Cry of the Gypsy has the lot, one of the finest rock tones ever recorded and the song just kicks ass in every single dept, so how did Lynch get that tone, is it his guitar, is it the inherent sound of a blazing soldano , excellent recording and mastering techniques.................how does his midrange sound THAT chewy and full ? :omg
     
  2. stevel

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    I remember interviews from back in the day that said "Tubescreamer into X" - X being whatever amps he was using at the time.

    That maybe myth, or only a snapshot of a certain time period, but that's what I read.

    Steve
     
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    I have a Kamikaze 1, back from 1988....it weighs 1 metric ton, but the maple body does really sound kickass into any amp I play....definitely brighter, but I like bright. I can get pretty close to those tones with a Cusack screamer into the amp.
     
  4. BryanMatthews

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    tubescreamer has a midrange hump, doesnt it ? wonder if its a tubescreamer pushing an already distorted slo 100 ?
     
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    Some of it is the .68uf presence cap in the amp.
     
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    There are also double-tracked guitars, which makes the rhythm guitars sound squishier.
     
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    Sounds like he has most of the bass rolled back too.
     
  8. BryanMatthews

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    you think so, sounds to me like the mids are jacked, treble backed off little and bass added last with care not to sound booming. kinda reminds me of evh tonequest .....he does it this way,no he doesnt , infact its this way. have to do some further reading into exactly what he was using in studio in 1987
     
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    A lot of the guys back then used a Furman eq to boost the eq in the mids. It gives it a notched/cocked wah type tone. I'm not sure if GL did this but it does have that tone.
     
  10. BryanMatthews

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    Michael Wagener (producer Under Lock & Key 1985 ):
    "The setup for George's guitar tone on "Under Lock And Key" was as follows:
    We had two Marshall heads and two Laney heads, not sure which models, but one of them was a Plexi. We had cabs in three different rooms: two cabs were placed in the big room at Amigo, one connected to a Marshall, the other connected to the Laney. The Marshall was responsible for the high end part of the sound and the Laney was set to take care of the low end. There were 14 (fourteen) mics set up in that room in various psoitions around the cabinet and some further away to get some room tone. The second Laney was sent into a very dead room and had a Boss chorus pedal in front of it, set to very slight chorus. The second Marshall was sent into a small, tiled bathroom, to add a different room tone. Those 16 mics came in on the MCI 500 console mic pres. They were bussed to one bus and that bus had a UREI 530 EQ on it (best guitar EQ ever). George mentioned that he always gets a great tone with his Fostex 4track recorder when it's in total overdrive, so I asked him to bring it in. So after the 530 everything was sent to the Fostex 4track, which lived under a packing blanket under the console, so nobody would see it. The Fostex was on stunn, completely overdriven and was sent on to the 3M 32 track dig machine from there.

    No, I am NOT kidding!!!"


    seems to be a lot of work to get a guitar tone eh :bonk
     
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    More money than brains.....
     
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    Personally I don't care for that track. Heaven Sent is my favorite track on that record with Standing in the Shadows right behind it. The tone he got on the record is pretty cool though for some reason it sounds like a small amp to me.
     
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    This album has my favorite tones of all time. Sleepless Nights is my favorite song but the entire album is truly a masterpiece (imo).
     
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    I don't think he was using soldanos at that point. didn't he use dimartinis purple plexi for the dokken stuff? Sounds like a hotrodded Marshall
     
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    Sorry to derail the thread, but I just had to say that George Lynch just out of the blue walked into my auto paint supply store a few hours ago to buy some sandpaper to sand his "Mr. Scary" guitars. I didn't know he made guitars.

    What a trip! Totally down to earth guy whe never let on who he was except I started asking questions about what he was sanding (he said wood) and that led to "guitars" and me asking what brand he made. Then I asked for his I.D. for the credit card transaction and it confirmed what I already suspected. It was George. What a super cool guy. Showed me a bunch of pics of his stuff and the history behind it.

    As a rock guitar player from the 80's, of course I'm a fan too.

    Back to your reglaur scheduled thread. I just felt like sharing since I open up TGP and the first thread I look at is on George Lynch.
     
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    Love his tone on Heaven Sent and that AMAZING solo. I think on Back For The Attack he used Aspen Pittman's purple Plexi. I did not like his tone on Under Lock and Key. The above explanation if true, explains lots! The other day I was listening to Lynch Mob, Wicked Sensation and his tone and the overall sound of that record is excellent for the era/style
     
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    What is this Fostex thingy you refer to?
    Ill pay any price.....
     
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    Wasn't it his thing back then to use 10" speakers instead of 12's?

    Jeff
     
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    Pics Larry, or it was one of the real housewives of orange county!!!:rotflmao
     
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    I think I have one....
     

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