Wampler Ace 30 with an AC30

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  1. jcshirke

    jcshirke Silver Supporting Member

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    Has anyone tried the Wampler Ace 30 with an actual AC30 (preferably vintage)?

    Just curious how the pedal works as an overdrive with the amp it's designed to emulate. Bottom line: I'm wondering if I'd like it more than the Galileo. Anyone tried it yet?

    Thanks,
    Jeff
     
  2. la noise

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    Why a pedal that emulates an amp into the amp it is attempting to emulate??? :huh
     
  3. jcshirke

    jcshirke Silver Supporting Member

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    Because it's an overdrive.
     
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    I love a Wampler Black '65 into a Deluxe Reverb - lets me get the classic blackface OD tones at reasonable volumes. I imagine the Ace 30 into an AC30 would be much the same.
     
  7. jcshirke

    jcshirke Silver Supporting Member

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    Exactly. Presumably, the Wampler is already voiced to sound and respond like an AC30, so if it was run in front of the real amp, it might allow you to get authentic cranked tones at lower volumes.
     
  8. musica23

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    I got one and sent it back already. However, I did NOT try it through a Vox amp. I tried it through 2 different Fenders (Blues Jr. and Blues Deluxe) and a Mesa Express 5:50, using both HBs and P-90s. (I've got a little AC4TV, but I want either an AC15 or 30.)

    I'd say it does the Vox thing fairly well, but it's too bassy for me, as was the Triple Wreck that I tried when it first came out. The 15/30 switch is nice (I like it on 15 for more gain), but I made up my mind in 2 days that I'd rather save the $$$ toward the actual amp. I'll say it's really pretty, but I couldn't justify keeping it!
     
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    I thought it would create a worm hole- thus making time travel a reality.

    Ok, I'm curious too! ( I'm adding one on my 'Fender' stuff for a little British grind.
     
  10. blackba

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    Interesting question, curious to know my self. I am pretty happy with the Timmy through my vox ac50....
     
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    I'm not so sure that it will be as successful. I tried a Fender Custom Shop Tweed Deluxe and compared it with a Wampler Tweed pedal into a Two Rock Studio 35. The pedal with the gain almost off still had way too much gain. I plugged the Wampler tweed pedal into the Fender Tweed and had the same results: the pedal has way too much gain.
     
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    Yep. Space/Time Continuum would be torn.
     
  13. jcshirke

    jcshirke Silver Supporting Member

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    Someone loan me an Ace 30 for a couple days, and I'll be happy to post the verdict. :)
     
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    I must add that I love most of the Wampler Pedals I've tried. The Dual Fusion pedal is just too cool!!!
     
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    I'm curious... how is it too bassy with the bass control? The bass control will cut the bass completely out -
     
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    Hey Brian, I certainly don't want to step on anybody's feet, I'm taking your Dual Fusion pedal to the International Blues Challenge in Memphis, in late January. I have to use what ever amp they give me. I think the Dual Fusion is the perfect pedal for the task. I hope your Ace 30 pedal nails the tone. All I'm saying with the Tweed pedal is it needs less gain to get all those cool blues tones, it ain't all Neil Young on 12. Keep doing what you do, you have raised the bar in pedal works.
     
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    I am confused by these attempts to run a pedal emulating a specific amp into
    the amp it is attempting to emulate. This confuses me? :huh

    Like the mention of running the Tweed pedal into an actual Tweed amp = too
    much gain. Well, excuse my insensitivity here, but duh????

    Aren't the Wampler pedals design intent to emulate those amps.... not be a
    transparent OD into those amps??

    I love both the '65 Black and '57 Tweed precisely because they allow me to
    easily approach those types of tones without having to actually use those types
    of amps. If I had one of those amps, well, I surely would not think of running
    an OD pedal designed to emulate it in front of it? That's what a Timmy or a
    Tube Screamer is for.... or any other number of OD's on the market?
     
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    There is no "duh" here cowboy. I ran the tweed pedal into a clean set Two rock, for cryin out loud. An amp that many consider the best pedal platform one can have. Next to the Two Roc sat the Fender Custom Shop 57 Tweed Deluxe. The Wampler could not be brought down enough even at almost zero gain. It could not match the tone of the Fender at low to mid gains. But how about some reality here, no $200 pedal can out perform the Fender Reissue that costs how many times more. Yes the Wampler will give you some tweed flavor, but not the vibe that a good tweed will give you with the volumes up around 1 or 2 o clock. Try it your self.

    Now having said all that steam, a few years back I ran an AC 15 on semi clean with a Menatone Top Boost In a Can and it popped the Vox tone very well, so who the frick knows until ya actually try it.
     
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  19. musica23

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    Even with the bass backed off completely, it was too bassy! Maybe "too loud" would be a better way to describe it with the bass down. My tubes were nearly rattling. FWIW, I didn't try it onstage or at tremendously high volumes, though I do play loud at home. And I had the same experience with the Triple Wreck back when it was first released.

    I know your stuff is quality, Brian, and it's definitely well-made. You can tell just by looking at it...and this one's really pretty! I just think that maybe your stuff (the 2 I've tried, at least) are better suited to the gigging musician who can really let loose with the volume. Or maybe my amps aren't up to the task, though they're all tube...but very moderately-priced. :dunno

    All I know is that the Ace Thirty did a pretty good impression of a Vox (and I love the 15/30 switch), but it didn't work out well enough for me to keep it. I should also add that I've been wanting to get an actual AC15 or 30 for the past year, and your pedal made me want one all over again. So, as someone else said here somewhere, I'd rather put the cost of the Ace Thirty toward the amp!

    No offense intended...it just didn't work well enough for me...and I want that amp! :)
     
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    Vox tone squared?? It would prob sound great!!
     

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