What amp is this?

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  1. Flatcat

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    Hey people,

    I'll shortly introduce myself. I'm from Belgium and I play in a punkrockband. I play a Gibson SG and in a couple of months I'll have a R7.
    Amps: Brunetti XL R-EVO (check it out!) and Bogner Ubershall.

    I'm looking for this sound:

    It's very clean, some say it could be some kind of jcm800?

    I especially like the intro sound and the palmmuted parts..

    http://www.flatcatpunk.com/mp3/guitarsound.mp3

    Hope you can help?

    By the way, I might sell my uber (too much bass and gain anyway) and check out a boutique amp that can do good rock (old punk, ac/dc) and some more high gain stuff . Looking at Cornford, are they good for that?

    Take care!
     
  2. Flatcat

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    bump!

    please help me out people!
     
  3. Norjef

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    Sounds to me like new strings on treble PU of Tele or "Texas" Strat into Fender tweed-type amp mildly pushed.

    Jeff
     
  4. Flatcat

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    Thanks for your reply Jeff!

    So a bassman might be a good idea?

    I was looking into this 59ltd bassman, sounds pretty good.

    Any brand that can nail that ànd a higher gain tone?
     
  5. Flatcat

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    UP!

    Come on tone people, show me your skills! :)
     
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    It sounds like a poorly recorded AC30 to me (maybe a Pod?).
     
  7. Norjef

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    Second channel (of 4) on my Egnater TOL 100 would nail that tone with single coils (either boosted or tone pot-slight rolloff). The Egnater has Channel 3 & 4 to do higher and higher gain. I think Rivera or Bogner Shiva could get it too. "IMHO" discaimer.

    One more--the recorded player has very good time and touch. Jeff
     
  8. el34power

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    The JCM800 would be a good choice. A stupid question though. Can't you just roll back on the gain of the uber?
     
  9. Flatcat

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    No stupid questions..

    Actually I'm looking for another amp then the uber.

    My Brunetti sounds better for punkrock. Uber is ... metal.

    It sounds really dark and bassy, and even the slightest amount of gain is still too heavy sounding due to the bass (settings on 2 or 3!!)

    It has good leads though, but downtuned slow stuff does this amp justice.

    So I'm looking for the amp that can do this tone, the new greenday sounds amazing too (love or hate it, he has a pretty decent sound).

    Would a Divided by 13 be something that I'm looking for?
     
  10. el34power

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    Couldn't tell ya bou't the 13 but. What cab are you using?
    Regardless, i really like the JCM800. That's were i am at now.
    If you are not looking for sparkly clean..cleans or high...high gain.
    The JCM800 is a winner (and cost less in body parts:D )
     
  11. Norjef

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    Welcome to the Jungle pal...Try as many amps as humanly and locationally possible...Your touch, approach and recording techniques have as much (OR MORE) to do with your desired tones than gear--
    IMHO of course Jeff
     
  12. Flatcat

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    I know Jeff,

    But I'm checking out what amp might fit me better then the uberschall.

    It's virtually impossible for me to check out Aiken, Badcat, Divided by 13,... here (Belgium, Europe).

    That's why I hope some people in here can help me out.

    Nice to hear more people think this is a single coil recording, I'll check that out in our next recording.

    Come to think of it, we always had too much gain, it sounds really messy. (mesa, soldano, ...)

    That's why I'm looking at all those Fender/Marshall alike boutique amps.
     
  13. Flatcat

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    el34 power:

    Cabs: Marshall 1960A slanted and a Brunetti V30 cab (4X12)
     
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    An early 80s JCM 800 Marshall's probably a good starting point. That is a good guitar sound on the sample, and a good player. Single coil p'ups is probably right. Tele more likely than P-90s.

    Where in Belgium are you, Flatcat? My old band played a few shows over there a couple of years ago.
     
  15. John Phillips

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    Sounds like a JCM800 to me, the single-channel MV model. FWIW, I'd say the less-fashionable horizontal-input version, they're tighter and slightly deeper-sounding ;). Hard to tell for sure on a recording though - there's a lot of digital artifacts on that too.

    The sounds on the recent Green Day album are probably P90 + JCM800 - that's what's in the videos, and I don't see any reason to doubt it from the tone... which is fantastic :).

    The really good news is that JCM800s are easy to get, quite cheap and almost bomb-proof for reliability. One of the truly great amps.
     
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    here here! I'll drink to that..... I'll drink to anything:D
     
  17. Flatcat

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    I live near Bruges, but closer to the coast.

    Moving to Ghent in half a year.

    What style was your band and do you remember what city/venue you played?


    To the others: thanks for your replys. The 800's you're talking about are probably the single channel ones?
     
  18. cameron

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    We visited Bruges, but didn't play there. We did play in Ghent, in a small bar/club, I forget the name.

    The name of the band was Graveyard Slut. We played what we called "punk rock" but we didn't really fit any of the micro-classifications that European punk fans seem to obsess over. Most of the gigs we played in Belgium were with either The Agitators, or The Heartaches, or with both.
     
  19. Flatcat

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    I can resemble to that classification... It sucks. We play punkrock shows every week but never (almost never) play with bands like them. It's like fat/epitaph style punk is a different world than the 77 influenced bands.. Shouldn't be that way.. oh well.

    Big chance the club you played in Ghent was the Frontline? (a street where dumb**** student jocks have their bars)

    Still grateful to replyers!
     
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    Frontline sounds familiar. That probably was the place. I think that was the second place we played in Belgium, after someplace called Lintfabriek.

    I was amazed when we got to Europe at the amount of energy the kids put into the micro-taxonomy of punk rock. I'd never heard of "Street Punk", for example, but in Europe, whether one is "Street Punk" or not is very important. Here in NY we in the punk scene (there are actually many punk scenes in NY - the City has a population of nearly 10 million, remember - but they are not so much focused on terminology) just think of ourselves as playing rock and roll, but in Europe, it seems the term "rock and roll" refers strictly to bands that play some kind of 50s pastiche.

    It's all rather confusing.
     

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