Which Fuzz Face did SRV use?

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  1. jcmark611

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    Ge or Si? I've seen reports of both, someone settle this once and for all.

    TIA.
     
  2. Brian Maestro

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    Diaz Texas Squareface

    Originally designed as a more reliable replacement for Stevie Ray Vaughan's fuzz face, the Diaz Texas Square Face Fuzz has plenty of vibe of its own. Cesar Diaz built his circuit into one of SRV's dead fuzz face boxes and Stevie used it for the rest of his life. The production model features sturdy metal construction, on/off button, volume control, and fuzz control.

    http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Diaz-Texas-Squareface-Fuzz?sku=151060
     
  3. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars Silver Supporting Member

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    The production Square Faces were Ge stock but the trannys were in a socket and they came with 2 Si trannys as well for an Si fuzz or for a hybrid fuzz...

    However I don't think SRV's Fuzz Face used NKT's...I was JUST watching ACL and on Tightrope he is CLEARLY using a Fuzz Face but it's a little grittier than an NKT...

    Anybody have any more info????
     
  4. jcmark611

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    So is that a Ge or Si fuzz?
     
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    Didn't he use Tube Screamers most of the time?
     
  6. todd richman

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    He also used various Fuzz Faces and the aforementioned Texas Square Face. He supposedly only used TS808, TS-9 and TS-10's for clean boost and did not run a lot of gain.
     
  7. Brian Maestro

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    The square face is NPN not PNP..it comes with two germaniums but it has transistor sockets and two silicon's are included for more gain. They can also be combined, for different tones. Changing positions will also help!! You can really hear it on the SRV album "IN STEP"...cesar...

    http://www.stringsandbeyond.com/ceditesqfafu.html
     
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    Thanks, it's as clear as mudd now:))
     
  10. cerebralpaul

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    Yeah ok, cuz we all hung around chatting transistors with SRV ;)

    Here's what I know: I have a Texas Square Face that I bought from Cesar in the early 90's- it has Ge trannies and as others have said it included Si trannies that you could install yourself for experimentation(I never did). The main thing you need to know is, this is NOT a straight-up Fuzz Face clone like the Sun Face or the '69 pedal, Cesar added a doodad or two to the circuit so it sounds hotter than a typical Ge FF- to me it sounds somewhere inbetween a Ge and Si version like many of the other hybrid-ized FF clones out there. That said, none of the ones I've tried sound EXACTLY the same as the Square Face. This one sounds a little more... Texas? ;)

    Hope that helps.
     
  11. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars Silver Supporting Member

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    Im gonna dig my copy of IN STEP today and listen again...I haven't listened to that album in a while...on ACL it's very responseive like a Ge FF and cleans up pretty well but it's also a little spitty sounding at points too...
     
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    i have this saved on my computer and i never figured out what the pedal between the tubescreamer and wah was.
     
  14. fuzzface71

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    The selector switch for his amp?
     
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    its a fender reverb/trem switch
     
  16. VegaBaby

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    In the list linked above they clearly forgot to mention TS10s which he used very regularly. If you look at the picture above, you can clearly see one on his board as well...
     
  17. sstweed

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    The earliest Square Faces did not have sockets. They only came with NTE 103 Ge trannies. They were NPN as pointed out before. The circuit is pretty much a straight on fuzz face clone. It has a bigger output resistor (some used to call this the Hendrix mod) which gave it more output volume. The gain came from the NTE trannies. The old square face I have is very similar in gain to my MJM Londons, but not as dark. Very raspy when cranked. The old standard non-NKT Analogman Sunfaces used NTE 102's (the PNP version) and supposedly sound similar as well.
     
  18. wingwalker

    wingwalker Fuzzy Guitars Silver Supporting Member

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    Very nice!

    Thank you!
     
  19. gillibi

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    Close, it's the on/off, slow/fast switch for the Fender Vibratone(Leslie).
     

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