Which was the finest EL84 tube made ?

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  1. BryanMatthews

    BryanMatthews Member

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    I see some tubes are being sold as new mullards, upon further inspection I noticed they say "made in russia" , they are sold by tube depot . I had gotten my hopes up that they would be made in england, just like the originals were.

    The sweetest and most toneful EL84 was what then , perhaps you can tell me. Im assuming it will be a NOS tube.
     
  2. hogy

    hogy Supporting Member

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    That depends on the amp.
     
  3. BryanMatthews

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    If I were fitting it to a Vox AC30 , what would be your choice ?
     
  4. riffmeister

    riffmeister Gold Supporting Member

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    they're all good. the only ones I've heard about that have had occasional reliability problems is EI.
     
  5. hogy

    hogy Supporting Member

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    That depends on the AC30 :D.
     
  6. msgdsrf

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    :stir Buy a few and check'em out... different flavors.

    Maybe post what you'd like to hear more of or less of from your circuit as you hear it now. But every circuit will make tubes sound slighty different although there are generalizations about each tube type that members will suggest.
     
  7. hamfist

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    Some great old tubes that tube cork-sniffers regularly rave about are :-

    Mullards (obviously)
    Polams (or Telams ....same thing really)
    Siemens E84L

    I used the Polams myself (compared to NOS GE, some NOS 1980's Russian tubes, and various new stock), and didn't find them anything outstanding. Don't think I'm really an EL84 guy though.
    THe best I used were the old Russian tubes (got from TubeTramp).... pretty cheap too !
     
  8. darko

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    Wel, it will be:
    Philips (togather with daughter companies Mullard and Valvo),
    Telefunken
    Siemens
    and beleive it or not - on same ground is old production of EI Nis.
    I have tried more EL84's from various manufacturers in a AC30, but...
    I dont have experience with all new produced tubes, but I know is that I hate those Russian tubes.
     
  9. Millo 3.1

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    What about current-production EL84's--anyone has a favorite?
     
  10. jlagrassa

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    I use TAD EL84 STR in my VHT, very nice sounding power tubes!
     
  11. wyatt

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    New Sensor (Mike Matthews) has been quickly buying up obsolete trademarks. Mullard, Tung Sol, Genalex/GEC, are all the same company and made in the same factory as Sovtek and Electro Harmonix. Though there are differences in most tube deisgns (and performance/quality)

    As to the original question. NOS Mullards.
     
  12. Oddos

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    There is an old The Guitar Magazine article where the writer and Brian May check all the types they were interested in and wrote their findings. Maybe be worth checking out.
     
  13. Millo 3.1

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    Thanks! Any idea what STR stands for? Is the S for Slovakia, Serbia, SED, Svetlana?

    How about the GT EL84S? Are these JJ's or Ei's?
     
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    STR = Special Tube Request
     
  15. goodwill559

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    One meaning of the abbreviation STR is "special tube request."

    don't know if there are others...
     
  16. 68_Custom Shop

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    I got JJ-Tesla el84 matched quad for the output,and JJ Ecc83 gold pin high gain for the pre-amp.It only cost about $120.I am putting them in tonight.I am told these are awsome replacements for the Ac30,and that the original tubes are pretty crappy. I'll let you know what happens.
     
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    Dude!!! You have to completely dis-assemble the whole freakin amp to change the tubes.The originals were Elec.Harmonics(output),2-tong-sol,1-sovtec(pre-amp). They didn't even match. The output tubes looked kinda burnt.I think the tube upgrade is gonna kill in this thing:dude. I can't tell you how it sounds until tomorrow night,,,I ordered new speakers to put in it while I had it torn apart already.I had them over-night'd.So ,,,I will let ya know man!!:stir.But if you do anything at all ,from my experience,any tube upgrade will be money very well spent.
     
  18. Millo 3.1

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    oh! Meaning it's their own design, made somewhere else? China?
     
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    Yeah those saratovs from Terry are great. I prefer in my 18 watter hex plate Teslas, then mullards.
     
  20. Mikey Likes It

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    When I first got a Maz Jr., I decided to try some Mullards. They sounded great, but one of them failed after a few months, and they're too expensive for that kind of gamble, IMHO. I have also tried Telefunken and Tungsram, both great. The best of all, for me, is a Phillips JAN pair, and I hope I'm right in assuming that JAN specs will translate to reliability. Mike K has them in stock - $95 for a matched pair. Excellent tubes.
     

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