Lets discuss "Shimmer"

[mike@nortoncable.com]

Check out this "Shimmer" effect- pretty clever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYbZZ...eature=channel
My debugging: Would it be correct that this (improvised) shimmer/u2 effect is nothing more than a line 6 reverb pedal and a good ol' eb vol? with some creative routing? or did I miss something..

Sort of rambling through the process of rewiring my board to get a shimmer effect would this signal chain do it?

Guitar > Drive stage > modulation stage ends in a stereo out pedal> left signal from modulation out to delay stage left input- modulation right output>EB vol> line 6 reverb> delay stage right input

Going to try this tomorrow if I can get my hands on a line 6 reverb pedal..

Other thoughts: Eventide Pitchfactor into the loop of Eb vol/pitchfactor/reverb for a pitch synth sound- yay/nay something better?

Or -
is there a better/ easy way of doing this?
care to share your method?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Topic: To shimmer or not to shimmer.

[fr8_trane]

Originally Posted by -Analog-

Check out this "Shimmer" effect- pretty clever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYbZZ...eature=channel
My debugging: Would it be correct that this (improvised) shimmer/u2 effect is nothing more than a line 6 reverb pedal and a good ol' eb vol? with some creative routing? or did I miss something..

Sort of rambling through the process of rewiring my board to get a shimmer effect would this signal chain do it?

Guitar > Drive stage > modulation stage ends in a stereo out pedal> left signal from modulation out to delay stage left input- modulation right output>EB vol> line 6 reverb> delay stage right input

Going to try this tomorrow if I can get my hands on a line 6 reverb pedal..

Other thoughts: Eventide Pitchfactor into the loop of Eb vol/pitchfactor/reverb for a pitch synth sound- yay/nay something better?

Or -
is there a better/ easy way of doing this?
care to share your method?

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Topic: To shimmer or not to shimmer.

I think the synthy shimmer effect is the line 6 octoverb (mixes an octave up effect under the verb). IMO you can get that exact same sound (mod delay, shimmer verb and OD) with ONE pedal. The line 6 M13

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOe6h...eature=related

[Holliman]

I use a Digitech EX-7 set on the space station setting. I use a wet/dry setup with an ABY box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM-5WP87fdo

[blood5150]

bumped so I can check this out later...

[orange worker]

boss ps-3 will do it too, as well as the superdelay

[aziltz]

Originally Posted by orange worker

boss ps-3 will do it too, as well as the superdelay

will do what method? no one's explaining any routing techniques. I assume the OP is trying to fade in the shimmer behind a dry signal, judging by his suggestions

[orange worker]

Originally Posted by aziltz

will do what method? no one's explaining any routing techniques. I assume the OP is trying to fade in the shimmer behind a dry signal, judging by his suggestions

obviously the signal needs to be split and then fed into a volume pedal then reverse octaver type effect into reverb then into a 2nd amp. i was just suggesting other pedals that do that shimmer besides the verbzilla.

[robcollins]

Originally Posted by orange worker

boss ps-3 will do it too, as well as the superdelay

are you talking about the Empress SuperDelay?

[yellowecho]

Originally Posted by robcollins

are you talking about the Empress SuperDelay?

+1 to orange worker on the Empress SuperDelay.
I use that shimmer sound on several songs... with some reverb and a touch of overdrive, you can get a really awesome synthy shimmery wall of beauty.

On the Superdelay, it's submode C on the reverse setting.

[robcollins]

Originally Posted by yellowecho

+1 to orange worker on the Empress SuperDelay.
I use that shimmer sound on several songs... with some reverb and a touch of overdrive, you can get a really awesome synthy shimmery wall of beauty.

On the Superdelay, it's submode C on the reverse setting.

I must try that , I've had my Superdelay for about 5 months now and its been on the tape echo setting since the day I got it!

[mmcm4]

As a U2 junkie, i'll add what i know about shimmer. basically the dry(?) signal is shifted up an octave and then mixed into a long plate type reverb thats fed into a fender blues jr. amp. Most people who cant afford all of the rack equipment (and the youtube video poster) use the Line6 verbzilla (or M13) in the "Octo" mode directly from a dry signal. this signal path is controlled by the volume pedal which "brings" the shimmer in and out of the mix

[mike@nortoncable.com]

Picked up the Line 6 Verbzilla, my idea worked! the extra layer really sounds amazing- thinking of mixing a Pog or micro pog in with it..

[LeeSympathetic]

My friend did this exact setup.

Here's how you do it.

So you need two stereo pedals to pull this off.
In my friend's case, his two were an Axcess Buffer, and a Nova Delay.

His signal was something like
Wah pedal > Tuner > Axcess Buffer (Splits into two signals):
1. All his dirt pedals
2. VP > Verbzilla
Then the two signals meet at his 2nd stereo pedal, his Nova Delay.

Then from the Nova, it goes into the amp.

How this works, is that your isolating the Verbzilla, so when you have distortion on, the octo won't sound distorted, and instead, it will be a nice, 'pure' and 'real' shimmer.
The volume pedal is required, because without it, you'll have a clean signal mixed in with your distortion. So you'll get a weir'd distortion + clean tone.

[fr8_trane]

Originally Posted by LeeSympathetic

My friend did this exact setup.

Here's how you do it.

So you need two stereo pedals to pull this off.
In my friend's case, his two were an Axcess Buffer, and a Nova Delay.

His signal was something like
Wah pedal > Tuner > Axcess Buffer (Splits into two signals):
1. All his dirt pedals
2. VP > Verbzilla
Then the two signals meet at his 2nd stereo pedal, his Nova Delay.

Then from the Nova, it goes into the amp.

How this works, is that your isolating the Verbzilla, so when you have distortion on, the octo won't sound distorted, and instead, it will be a nice, 'pure' and 'real' shimmer.
The volume pedal is required, because without it, you'll have a clean signal mixed in with your distortion. So you'll get a weir'd distortion + clean tone.

Whew... seems like ALOT of routing, mixing, pedals, pedal board real estate and money.

This is exactly why I'm considering a MultiFX pedal. Seriously the M13 comes with a patch called "over the edge" which was written by the guy in the youtube video link I posted that does ALL of this with the touch of a single button and an external expression pedal. Simple, efficient, and realtively inexpensive compared to the multiple analog pedal route.

Obvioulsly YMMV.

[jesse v]

Originally Posted by LeeSympathetic

My friend did this exact setup.

Here's how you do it.

So you need two stereo pedals to pull this off.
In my friend's case, his two were an Axcess Buffer, and a Nova Delay.

His signal was something like
Wah pedal > Tuner > Axcess Buffer (Splits into two signals):
1. All his dirt pedals
2. VP > Verbzilla
Then the two signals meet at his 2nd stereo pedal, his Nova Delay.

Then from the Nova, it goes into the amp.

How this works, is that your isolating the Verbzilla, so when you have distortion on, the octo won't sound distorted, and instead, it will be a nice, 'pure' and 'real' shimmer.
The volume pedal is required, because without it, you'll have a clean signal mixed in with your distortion. So you'll get a weir'd distortion + clean tone.

I tried this today and ran into a hitch. My chain was...

Guitar > Signal splitter >
(A) Dirt pedals [ > Nova Delay Left input]
(B) Volume pedal > Boss RV5 [ > Nova Delay Right input]
> Signals meet at Nova Delay > Amp

My problem was that bringing the volume pedal down to take out the "shimmer" signal also reduced my dirt signal by about 50%. (I attempted to remedy this by putting a dummy plug in the Nova's right output, and it fixed the signal drop, but it silenced the shimmer signal because the Nova was sending that signal solely out the Right output.)

Did you notice this problem?