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Old 06-23-2010, 03:30 PM
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Michael Vick's legacy--dog finally has a good home

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/spor..._dogs_find.php

Makes me sick when I think about the kind of people that participate in the carnage of dog-fighting.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:45 PM
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i'm thoroughly disgusted. hopefully, these poor animals can have some sort of life with love.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:46 PM
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"While Vick is pure evil"

Sums it up for me....
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:52 PM
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I used to be an Eagles fan.

Now I can't stomach to watch a game, and I wish they continue to suck as a team. Vick is hardly good enough for a gibbet, let alone continue to play pro football.


It is good to know that at least one dog has gone to a good home.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:53 PM
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The American people are suckers for an apology, which is too bad because Vick should be picking up trash for the rest of his life. He's an absolute piece of human garbage. It's nice to know some people are willing to help though, but it's tough knowing more of the dogs in his ownership are unadoptable than ones that are.
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:29 PM
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How do you all feel about bull fighting which is a way of life in Spain and Mexico and a lot of other places?

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Old 06-23-2010, 05:33 PM
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How do you all feel about bull fighting which is a way of life in Spain and Mexico and a lot of other places?


You simply cannot compare this to all the sick shit Vick did. I see where you are going, but it aint the same thing. The problem with Vick is that it goes WAY beyond just putting two dogs in a ring to kill each other. You are talking about torture, rape, killing, drowning, electrocution and much more.

I think they are two different things.
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:51 PM
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The problem with Vick is that it goes WAY beyond just putting two dogs in a ring to kill each other. You are talking about torture, rape, killing, drowning, electrocution and much more.
You don't call what the bull goes through torture? And killing is killing. Drowning, electrocution, sticking with barbed javelins in order to bleed and weaken an animal so that a guy can shove a sword through it's shoulders and into it's heart? It's all barbaric killing.

My point is, what Vick and a large number of people involved did, is something that to that particular group of people is acceptable. Like Clinton Portis said right after it came out, for people who grew up in those areas, dog fights are very common.

And cock fights with razor sharp blades affixed to their feet is "sport" in some circles.

I personally think all of it is totally barbaric. But I don't agree that Vick should be singled out as a monster. If you are going to do that then put him in a HUGE cell cause there's a lot of other "monsters" out there that get enjoyment from seeing animals getting killed. Even if it's a long standition traditional of entertainment like bull fighting in Spain. It's still an animal being brutally killed IMO.
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:56 PM
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...I don't agree that Vick should be singled out as a monster. If you are going to do that then put him in a HUGE cell cause there's a lot of other "monsters" out there that get enjoyment from seeing animals getting killed.
This is what I don't understand.

Why all the hate for Vick and not a word about the hundreds of other people still involved in dog fighting? No call for a special investigation, no call for funding for prosecution, no call for a national zero tolerance policy, not a word about dog fighting for months until Vick's name is mentioned, then total outrage.

I don't get it.
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:58 PM
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You don't call what the bull goes through torture? And killing is killing. Drowning, electrocution, sticking with barbed javelins in order to bleed and weaken an animal so that a guy can shove a sword through it's shoulders and into it's heart? It's all barbaric killing.

My point is, what Vick and a large number of people involved did, is something that to that particular group of people is acceptable. Like Clinton Portis said right after it came out, for people who grew up in those areas, dog fights are very common.

And cock fights with razor sharp blades affixed to their feet is "sport" in some circles.

I personally think all of it is totally barbaric. But I don't agree that Vick should be singled out as a monster. If you are going to do that then put him in a HUGE cell cause there's a lot of other "monsters" out there that get enjoyment from seeing animals getting killed. Even if it's a long standition traditional of entertainment like bull fighting in Spain. It's still an animal being brutally killed IMO.

I am no fan of bullfighting and Im not going to defend it either.

So we cant call Vick a monster/piece of shit/etc because other people do sick crap?

I also do not equate killing a bull to the systematic stuff that Vick did. Im not defending bullfighting, but giving Vick a pass because other people do sick shit does not equate with me.

Also, do not believe any of the hype about dog fighting. Very few people grow up around it and it is certainly not an everyday thing or a common occurrence in 99.9% of the country. Its never been substantiated that Vick grew up around anything like that. I think its just excuse making 101 to be honest.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:42 AM
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I personally think all of it is totally barbaric. But I don't agree that Vick should be singled out as a monster.
No, I agree Donnie.
Vick shouldnt be singled out. He should be put in the hall of shame with the rest of the monsters through history...including every bullfighter who ever stepped into a ring, and any promoter involved with any of this insanity.

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Old 06-23-2010, 06:09 PM
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You simply cannot compare this to all the sick shit Vick did. I see where you are going, but it aint the same thing. The problem with Vick is that it goes WAY beyond just putting two dogs in a ring to kill each other. You are talking about torture, rape, killing, drowning, electrocution and much more.

OK, I admit I didn't hear every gory detail of what happened with Vick........rape?
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:14 PM
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OK, I admit I didn't hear every gory detail of what happened with Vick........rape?

They had a thing (for lack of better words) that held the female dogs in place so that the male dogs could rape them. It was actually called like a "rape harness" or something along those lines. ESPN showed pictures of it at one time....
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:23 AM
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You simply cannot compare this to all the sick shit Vick did. I see where you are going, but it aint the same thing. The problem with Vick is that it goes WAY beyond just putting two dogs in a ring to kill each other. You are talking about torture, rape, killing, drowning, electrocution and much more.

I think they are two different things.

He raped a dog?
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:38 AM
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Explaining this as a cultural thing is justifying it.
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