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Old 10-11-2010, 08:27 AM
JubileeMan 2555 JubileeMan 2555 is offline
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Comparison Clips: Can you tell a difference?

This is a strange post, I know, but I had to make recordings last night.

I noticed a difference when I changed something out in my rig, and it was weird since I would have not expected it to make any difference.

It may have not come through in the recordings, but give these recordings and see if you notice a difference:

NORMAL SETUP:
Normal Channel on Marshall
Bright Channel on Marshall

CHANGED SETUP:
Normal Channel on Marshall
Bright Channel on Marshall

If you do hear, the changes, it is very small. But I notice it. Once I've got a few people chiming in, I'll let you know what I changed.

I PROMISE I'm not tricking you, or making anyone feel bad. There won't be a "BETTER" recording, I'm just seeing if you guys can hear any changes in sound.
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:33 AM
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The difference is small enough for me to get that feeling that I don't know if I'm fooling myself or not.

Especially since the playing is different in each case. There is bound to be some difference just because of that. It would have been better if you had used a loop sampler so that the playing had been identical in both cases.

Personally, I think the difference is too small to care about. YMMV and all that of course.

Or perhaps the difference will be easier to hear once somebody points it out. I'm staying tuned on this one.
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:47 AM
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It sounds to me that the changed set up is *slightly* (and I mean slightly) more "pushy" - a little more input gain - and I mean, just a bare touch. Also, there seems to be a little more lower midrange (or lack of opposite frequency) in the changed example, which makes it slightly (and I mean barely slightly) more congested. I prefer - in comparision - the unchanged setup because there's a bit of "clarity" I perceive.

But neither one is bad, or even significantly different. Put 'em in a mix and one may prove to sit better than the other.

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Old 10-11-2010, 10:18 AM
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"The difference is small enough for me......Especially since the playing is different in each case."

This, there may be some slight difference, but because of the length of the clips and the differences in your playing it is difficult to tell. Shorter clips where you try to play close to the same thing would help.
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:21 AM
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"The difference is small enough for me......Especially since the playing is different in each case."

This, there may be some slight difference, but because of the length of the clips and the differences in your playing it is difficult to tell. Shorter clips where you try to play close to the same thing would help.
I might make new clips. After hearing the responses, I agree that different playing doesn't help. But its always hard I always forget exactly what I played the first time around, and I don't have a looper
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:29 PM
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I thought the changed clips sounded a little brighter. Less cable?
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:44 PM
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I thought the changed clips sounded a little brighter. Less cable?
This is the comment that matches what I hear in person. But its even more dramatic when I'm there, which tells me its something to do with how the frequencies scatter or something...

...anyways....

ANSWER:

Normal setup has a 35-50ft Extension cord between the wall an amp. The "Changed" one is directly into the wall.

I have no idea how an extension cord would have any effect on the amp... but I notice it.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:47 PM
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This is the comment that matches what I hear in person. But its even more dramatic when I'm there, which tells me its something to do with how the frequencies scatter or something...

...anyways....

ANSWER:

Normal setup has a 35-50ft Extension cord between the wall an amp. The "Changed" one is directly into the wall.

I have no idea how an extension cord would have any effect on the amp... but I notice it.
Wouldn't the longer cable create more resistence and thus less than the standard 120 power? I have a variac on a plexi and the lower voltage creates this great sag around 90 volts that just makes the amp sound killer.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:54 PM
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Wouldn't the longer cable create more resistence and thus less than the standard 120 power? I have a variac on a plexi and the lower voltage creates this great sag around 90 volts that just makes the amp sound killer.
In your case 30V, but in the case of a 50ft extension cord, probably under 0.5V depending on the wire gauge. I.e. much less than the wall voltage itself varies throughout the day due to grid variations.
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