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Old 08-27-2011, 10:56 AM
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Strymon TimeLine + DMC MIDI Controller Videos

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Old 08-27-2011, 11:06 AM
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Awesome video explaining everything. If a loop is playing can you toggle back to bank selection, select another preset to play over top of the loop, all while the original loop is still playing?
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:29 AM
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Yeah... you don't even be in the loop mode to use the looper controls on the DMC. Probably should've shown that. Maybe I'll do a more comprehensive video and show everything in action on-the-fly.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:34 PM
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Yeah... you don't even be in the loop mode to use the looper controls on the DMC. Probably should've shown that. Maybe I'll do a more comprehensive video and show everything in action on-the-fly.
This is intriguing to me. So you don't have to enter LOOP mode to actually record loops with the DMC3? i.e. You could be on Bank 00, A and just hit "record" on the DMC3 and it will start looping? This would (in my understanding) leave your screen on Bank 00, A, allowing you to move freely through patches with the TL controls (or the other DMC3 controls) and never enter/exit the LOOP screen.....?

If so, that's plain awesome.

EDIT: whoops, posting while you did the video above. VERY cool. Looping without entering LOOP mode. Other questions:

(1) While that loop is playing, can you hit "record" again on the DMC3 to overdub parts?
(2) What that loop is playing, can you change patches on the TL controls? What about on the DMC3 (alternate mode).
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Old 08-27-2011, 02:26 PM
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EDIT: whoops, posting while you did the video above. VERY cool. Looping without entering LOOP mode. Other questions:

(1) While that loop is playing, can you hit "record" again on the DMC3 to overdub parts?
(2) What that loop is playing, can you change patches on the TL controls? What about on the DMC3 (alternate mode).
Yes. And yes... so long as you're not in the loop mode on the TL, because you have to select patch A or B. Hope that makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2011, 03:13 PM
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Yes. And yes... so long as you're not in the loop mode on the TL, because you have to select patch A or B. Hope that makes sense.
Ahhhh gotcha. Cuz the DMC3 doesn't select patches, it only decreases or increases the bank you're on.

What a cool companion pedal to the TL. Might replace my MIDI Mouse. Does it take a battery or only DC power?

Also, would you mind posting dimensions? Thanks crxsh
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:35 PM
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Crazy, n00b question no doubt but I'm not that interested in controlling the loop function of my TL from an external device, mostly interested in being able to save sounds to get to with one-click. Looking at the DMC-6, having 6 sounds would be damn handy. Does it do this or which firmware would I need to install?

Also, will it get in the way of using the TL's buttons to run the loop on the rare occasion I want it?

Wouldn't mind a look at the different colours too, no pics are up on the site. Looks like I might have a DMC in my future at this stage, though....
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:50 AM
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Awesome, thanks for putting that together. A couple of questions:

1) I couldn't tell from your video, but when you have a loop playing and you hit either half speed or reverse, does your loop start playing from the beginning (in either reverse or half speed) or does it immediately convert at the point in the loop you were at prior to engaging one of these functions? In other words, can you reverse/change speed in random spots without messing with the timing of the groove you've established?

2) also curious about what jjones asked above. From the conversations I've been having with Matt, I think unfortunately the answer is no...

3) Does the looper remain in the state you last left it? In other words if you are playing a loop, hit reverse, go back to the primary looper function mode, hit stop and THEN record a new loop, when you hit play, will the loop still be in reverse?

Thanks man!

Z
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:55 AM
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Great videos, Crxsh, really helpful.

Sorry, dumb question. Do Disaster Amps tweak the DMC3 specifically for Timeline use of does it work as per your videos straight off-the-peg?

Edit: just noticed DA website says you can request different firmware at checkout, so I guess you just specify that you want a DMC3 that will work with the TL?

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Old 08-27-2011, 12:07 PM
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Awesome, thanks for putting that together. A couple of questions:

1) I couldn't tell from your video, but when you have a loop playing and you hit either half speed or reverse, does your loop start playing from the beginning (in either reverse or half speed) or does it immediately convert at the point in the loop you were at prior to engaging one of these functions? In other words, can you reverse/change speed in random spots without messing with the timing of the groove you've established?

2) also curious about what jjones asked above. From the conversations I've been having with Matt, I think unfortunately the answer is no...

3) Does the looper remain in the state you last left it? In other words if you are playing a loop, hit reverse, go back to the primary looper function mode, hit stop and THEN record a new loop, when you hit play, will the loop still be in reverse?

Thanks man!

Z
1. I'll go check for sure, but I'm pretty sure it's instantaneous. As in, wherever you hit it, the half/double or reverse engages right then and there.

2. I'm confident that you can do exactly what jjones asked. While a loop is playing, you can toggle back to bank selection and select another preset. All while the original loop is still playing.

3. Yes. It remembers the state. In the looping video, around 1:30, I engage the half speed and then record the loop and double it. So, yes. It does.

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Great videos, Crxsh, really helpful.

Sorry, dumb question. Do Disaster Amps tweak the DMC specifically for Timeline use of does it work as per your videos straight off-the-peg?
Yeah Matt and I worked to hammer out the specific MIDI codes for the TimeLine. The DMC series was originally created as a controller platform for Line 6's M-series... but the TimeLine-specific firmware was something he mapped out in response to its release.

I'm sure he'd work out anything anything you needed him to. Super nice guy.

And to your edit... yes. The DMC-3 didn't even exist really, before I asked him for it. The DMC-2 I originally ordered had a 3-way toggle switch on it... but once I started playing it, realized I'd probably want something on a stomp switch — so I asked him and he accommodated by using the DMC-4 firmware in the DMC-2 format. Hopefully that makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:17 PM
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Awesome, and thanks for instigating this development. I'm buying one!
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:30 PM
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Here's another video... hopefully answers some of these questions.

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Old 08-27-2011, 12:41 PM
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Here's another video... hopefully answers some of these questions.
It does. thanks again!!
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:41 PM
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I find it really odd that you wanted the controller ABOVE your VP and so separated from your Timeline. I would want them to be closer together or at least I would want the Timeline on the top tier and the controller below the VP.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:39 PM
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I find it really odd that you wanted the controller ABOVE your VP and so separated from your Timeline. I would want them to be closer together or at least I would want the Timeline on the top tier and the controller below the VP.
The TimeLine just doesn't work on the top tier of my board... and while I toyed with the idea of moving the VP up and putting the DMC below that and closer to the TL, I feared accidentally bumping switches with it there.

This just works out in the best way, I think. It's up out of the way, but still accessible. But I just finally got everything on this board nailed down today — which is a relief — so we'll see what happens in the future.
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