Carol Ann Amps MK XI

[gtrs]

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...d.php?t=889904

Away we go....................

[MCK]

Yet another milestone! Congratulations to Alan and the little community he has brought together!

Allow me to bring over a question I posted at the tail end of the last thread...

I was wondering if EVM10L could be used to lower the volume on a CA amp while yet retaining most of the qualities of the EVM12L. Supposedly 10L has the same rating as 12L so it should stand the CA power but I'm not sure about cone cry etc. Has anyone tried running a CA OD2 etc on a EVM10L 1x10 cab? Thoughts?

[J.T. Guitar]

Damn... 10,000 posts and nary a hiccup. Congrats Alan!

[jimpridx]

Wow! The hits just keep on comin'......my favorite TGP thread......

BTW, I played a gig tonight with my OD3 with the Mesa 6CA7 power tubes I spoke of earlier, and I really didn't care for them very much. While they sounded great at lower volumes at home, at gigging volumes they just seemed to have the life sucked out of them. Perhaps they were more used than originally thought, too, but they're coming out ASAP.

[big mike]

Interesting observation on the boogie tubes.
Bummer they didn't work out post a picture of them when u get a chance
Curious...

[gtrs]

Originally Posted by MCK

Yet another milestone! Congratulations to Alan and the little community he has brought together!

Allow me to bring over a question I posted at the tail end of the last thread...

I'm curious about that speaker as well and I'm willing to bet that a OD3 and 4x10 cab would be real nice.
Of course, it would be difficult to say the least to find 4 of those speakers but with all the options out there now a days there must be something that's close/similar?

[amphog]

I have a 2x10 EV cab, but it is wired at 4 ohms. I'll re-wire it and let you know. The cab is open back, and about the size of a Twin.

[amphog]

Jason, thanks for continuing the CA legacy!

[flcmcya]

Just picked up a 1x12 with a lead 80 and dang if it doesn't sound good with everything.



Buckle up and hit the gas!

[jimpridx]

Originally Posted by big mike

Interesting observation on the boogie tubes.
Bummer they didn't work out post a picture of them when u get a chance
Curious...

Well, here they are. This appears to be the blue-stamped set, not green, but both are marked MESA and STR 416.



I will add, though, that the band I was sitting in with were a bunch of old-timer rockers who still play at 70s volumes. Yikes! It was the very first time when I had my 50-watter while wishing I had my 100W CA, for I actually lost a fair amount of clean headroom that I'm usually accustomed to having.

Regarding tubes, I just put in the Mullard EL34s, and the bias setting instantly popped up at around 16mA, right about where Gregg was hoping for them to be set at. While I'll admit that I'm total doofus when it comes to tubes and electronics, why on earth would the bias range on my OD3 bottom out at around 27mA for a set of Winged Cs or Mesa 6CA7s when the Mullards seem to open that range immensely? I honestly don't get it! I haven't played the Mullards yet to know what they'll sound like, but I will before the end of the day.

[Tone Loco]

Originally Posted by gtrs

I'm curious about that speaker as well and I'm willing to bet that a OD3 and 4x10 cab would be real nice.
Of course, it would be difficult to say the least to find 4 of those speakers but with all the options out there now a days there must be something that's close/similar?

Four 10's is one thing, one 10 is another, and I kind of doubt that a single 10, even an EV, is going to be anywhere near as satisfying as a single 12.

But I can't say I've ever heard a 50 or 100 watt amp through a single EV 10 so I don't know for sure. What I have done is play through a 4x10 cab (for years) and a 2x10 (twice) and the former was great while the latter was pretty weak, in my opinion. YMMV

[big mike]

Originally Posted by jimpridx

Well, here they are. This appears to be the blue-stamped set, not green, but both are marked MESA and STR 416.



I will add, though, that the band I was sitting in with were a bunch of old-timer rockers who still play at 70s volumes. Yikes! It was the very first time when I had my 50-watter while wishing I had my 100W CA, for I actually lost a fair amount of clean headroom that I'm usually accustomed to having.

Regarding tubes, I just put in the Mullard EL34s, and the bias setting instantly popped up at around 16mA, right about where Gregg was hoping for them to be set at. While I'll admit that I'm total doofus when it comes to tubes and electronics, why on earth would the bias range on my OD3 bottom out at around 27mA for a set of Winged Cs or Mesa 6CA7s when the Mullards seem to open that range immensely? I honestly don't get it! I haven't played the Mullards yet to know what they'll sound like, but I will before the end of the day.

Those look like GE's to me, or Sylvania maybe. not the siemens EL34.
Those are awesome in old marshalls if they have good life left. Almost 6L6ish.

EL34 has a different bias requirement. The true 6Ca7 is a higher wattage tube i believe.

[jimpridx]

Originally Posted by big mike

Those look like GE's to me, or Sylvania maybe. not the siemens EL34.
Those are awesome in old marshalls if they have good life left. Almost 6L6ish.

EL34 has a different bias requirement. The true 6Ca7 is a higher wattage tube i believe.

Thanks again, Mike! I actually have three sets of these that I had forgotten about until I came across them a few days ago. I think this particular set is lightly used, but it's been well over 20 years since I've used them, so it's hard to say for sure. I'll probably try them again sometime when I'm playing with my regular band. Last night's gig probably wasn't the best time to check them out, for not only was the band extremely loud, but the room acoustics were awful, too.

[MCK]

Originally Posted by gtrs

I'm curious about that speaker as well and I'm willing to bet that a OD3 and 4x10 cab would be real nice.
Of course, it would be difficult to say the least to find 4 of those speakers but with all the options out there now a days there must be something that's close/similar?

You bet! Its also going to be a ton! I was thinking of a 1x10 solution to see how it works actually.

Originally Posted by amphog

I have a 2x10 EV cab, but it is wired at 4 ohms. I'll re-wire it and let you know. The cab is open back, and about the size of a Twin.

Thanks for the trouble. Most appreciated. Will be great to hear your impression.

Originally Posted by Tone Loco

Four 10's is one thing, one 10 is another, and I kind of doubt that a single 10, even an EV, is going to be anywhere near as satisfying as a single 12.

But I can't say I've ever heard a 50 or 100 watt amp through a single EV 10 so I don't know for sure. What I have done is play through a 4x10 cab (for years) and a 2x10 (twice) and the former was great while the latter was pretty weak, in my opinion. YMMV

Thanks for the feedback. I must say I'm not looking for a 'great' solution but an acceptable compromise to bring the volume down a little without resorting to an attenuator. Its just an idea.

I have an EVM10L and a Thiele cab meant for a EVM12L + a baffle adjuster. I'll put the EVM10L in there and see how it works.

[amphog]

In past experience, 10's are best in groups of four. I do have a 4x10 with JBL 110's that I tryed with my Tuc. A single EV 12l sounded much better.