Super-Vee Mag Lok

[Blackmoreguitar]

Apologies if this has been discussed, but wondering if anyone has tried the Mag Lok trem setter thing. Not sure how it works exactly but looks interesting.

http://www.super-vee.com/whats_new.html

[Marcel]

I never used it, but I can see this work. Take two magnets around a pull-rod in a isolated tube (so pickups won't be affected) which pull towards each other - but can not touch each other (because a felt ring don't let them do just that), so you won't feel that "sticky middle" point (like you do feel with - for example - the Trem-Setter) when you move the tremolo-arm / tremolo.

Very curious too!

[Marcel]

Found this video. It looks like it mite actually work (and a little different then I thought) :

[Blackmoreguitar]

Found some user info on the Mag Lok......

http://www.musicradar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98937

[Marcel]

So..it has the same notch or '0' point which kills trem flutter, just like the Trem-Setter. The only improvement over the Trem-Setter is that installing this should be eassier.

[RvChevron]

Awaiting for their new and improved 2nd generation Mag Lok.

So you can mount it in the middle and use four springs, also once installed and set up correctly, no "click" going from up to down and vice versa.

The idea of using rare earth magnets seems to be on the right track though.

[Marcel]

Originally Posted by RvChevron

Awaiting for their new and improved 2nd generation Mag Lok.

So you can mount it in the middle and use four springs, also once installed and set up correctly, no "click" going from up to down and vice versa.

The idea of using rare earth magnets seems to be on the right track though.

I'm sorry, but without the middle notch or "click" will never happen. The magnets need to pull towards each other with a certain force to keep the tremolo in place - in the 0 (or in tune) point - in order to resist the force of an up-bend string. Please read the review posted above on musicradar.com forum.

[RvChevron]

Originally Posted by Marcel

I'm sorry, but without the middle notch or "click" will never happen. The magnets need to pull towards each other with a certain force to keep the tremolo in place - in the 0 (or in tune) point - in order to resist the force of an up-bend string. Please read the review posted above on musicradar.com forum.

I read the review but I was referring to the ad claim from Super Vee. They claimed that the mag lok is "transparent" and when set up right, you won't notice it's there.

As far as I undersand, the two magnets creates the magnetic field, strong enough to prevent the trem from moving when you bend strings, but will allow trem action when you use the bar.

Except on the hinge, there should be no mechanical contacts (unlike the tremsetter) but only release/engagement of the magnetic filed/force to make it work.

No?

[jbd3]

I'm really curious about this, but none of the videos I've seen have been very helpful. Here are the two mysteries of this product:

1) How much of a "notched" feel is there at the zero point? This was always the big drawback of the Tremsetter (I think that's what it's called--the thingie that came on the Strat Plus); you could never get that nice Bigsby-esque warble out of it because of that big notch at the balance point.

2) How does the trem "know" that you're using the bar? They claim you get a fixed bridge when you're bending strings, but a floating bridge when you use the trem. I don't understand how it can stay in place when you're doing double-stops or bending a string, but then move when you use the bar, unless it has a whole lot of static friction (aka "stiction," for those of you who deal with motorcycle or bicycle suspension) to keep it in place.

This could be a great product, but there's not enough info out there to know, which is why I'm hoping some of you have first-hand experience with it. It would be great to have the advantages of a floating trem, but with none of the trade-offs....

[burningyen]

According to one review over at the Hamer Fan Club there's a definite notched feel.

[jbd3]

Has anyone on here actually used one of these?

[jbd3]

Originally Posted by jbd3

I'm really curious about this, but none of the videos I've seen have been very helpful. Here are the two mysteries of this product:

1) How much of a "notched" feel is there at the zero point? This was always the big drawback of the Tremsetter (I think that's what it's called--the thingie that came on the Strat Plus); you could never get that nice Bigsby-esque warble out of it because of that big notch at the balance point.

2) How does the trem "know" that you're using the bar? They claim you get a fixed bridge when you're bending strings, but a floating bridge when you use the trem. I don't understand how it can stay in place when you're doing double-stops or bending a string, but then move when you use the bar, unless it has a whole lot of static friction (aka "stiction," for those of you who deal with motorcycle or bicycle suspension) to keep it in place.

This could be a great product, but there's not enough info out there to know, which is why I'm hoping some of you have first-hand experience with it. It would be great to have the advantages of a floating trem, but with none of the trade-offs....

Have any of you had the opportunity to actually try one of these? If they do what they promise, then I'd put them on every trem-equipped guitar I have, but what they promise seems awfully hard to deliver in the real world....

[Blackmoreguitar]

Originally Posted by jbd3

Have any of you had the opportunity to actually try one of these? If they do what they promise, then I'd put them on every trem-equipped guitar I have, but what they promise seems awfully hard to deliver in the real world....

Did you click on the link in post #4? Real user info there.

[jbd3]

So just a bump here to see if any of you have gotten your hands on one of these.

[kinmike]

I bought one but haven't installed it yet. I bought it for a Strat with floating bridge that has an extremely bad bridge dip when bending. I will report back when I get a chance to either install it myself or have it installed (new baby in the house).

Mike