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Old 07-15-2012, 06:52 PM
Clifford-D Clifford-D is offline
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Are you hard wIrEd or are you not???

Ok, you have five beats, call it four 16ths and
the beat on 2.

Tap alternatly the five beats with your hands on something.

Chances are you tapped leading with your dominant hand.
That means the first, third and fifth taps were done with
your dominant hand, how fast can you cleanly tap it?

Now, reverse hand order, start with your weak hand.
What happens? Are you clumsy and uncoordinated?
Is it hard to place the proper accents like strong beat placement?

Many people will not be smooth in reversed order, it will seem
unnatural to them.
And some I suspect will have no problem with this game.

Why is this?
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:19 PM
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Another example of this "am I hardwired?" Thing,,

The BB butterfly vibrato, where you rotate your wrist real fast, like a twitch.
Some people cannot do this vibrato, and less can.

Try this experiment;
With your dominant hand do a fast rotating twitching BB buterfly,
sustain it for as long as you can before you the burn.
Now do the same thing with your weak arm,
What happens? No sustain? Irregular butterflies??

This points to a weakness in the less dominant arm.
I think it has to do with the nervous system we were born with.
And in some cases the person will never develope the weak side,

I know this weak side can be developed but I've never had the feeling of
"This is right". It still feels backwards, and that's after 40 yrs working on this vibrato
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:42 AM
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...And some I suspect will have no problem with this game.

Why is this?
Drum lessons.

(That's not a sarcastic answer BTW, drum lessons are something that I have always said will benefit any musician, regardless of their main instrument).
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:42 AM
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Agreed huw. I took some drum lessons way back and you think of that right off the bat, because are you gonna sit as a righty or lefty. And then all rudiments you practice, work it both ways like LLRL or whatever.

Being lefty and playing righty on guitar.... I had to work a ton on it, agonizingly at times. I forced myself to write with my right hand while taking notes in college and stuff. Learning to write with my right hand really helped my picking btw. But there was a time when it would've been more to start with the left. Also I notice, sometimes if I don't keep on it, I can lose some of the right hand development, but my left never does. It's fascinating stuff, I wish science knew more about it.

Most lefty's are righty to an extent, in this RH world, but there are some true blue lefty's.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:46 AM
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Ok, you have five beats, call it four 16ths and
the beat on 2.
I would answer you if I could understand that.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:52 AM
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1e+a 2

is the way I understood it Travis. Not five beats but still..
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:45 AM
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So you guys are agreeing with me? That this weaknesss affects many, many people?
I can't really tell.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:46 AM
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1e+a 2

is the way I understood it Travis. Not five beats but still..
Exactly, strong timing, hitting the 2 beat on 2.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:25 AM
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So you guys are agreeing with me? That this weaknesss affects many, many people?
I can't really tell.
I don't know. I'd think it varies, and everyone will tend to favor one over the other. That's why those drum books start right off, doing every exercise both ways.

Did you ever take a syncopated guitar line and do it so all the upstrokes are on the downbeat? That can screw me up on a tricky rhythm, because I have sort've trained myself to do the usual down on down beat, up on up. Then I wonder if it's good to practice or not. I mean when it's in the heat of the battle, do I really want to have to stop and think okay now which way am I gonna do this stroke. The best players seem to do certain lines one way all the time to where they don't have to think and it seems natural. But I'm rambling.....
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:33 AM
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1e+a 2

is the way I understood it Travis. Not five beats but still..
So it's:
Quote:
r---l--r---l---r--l---r--l---r--l---r---l--r---l--r---l--r---l---r--l---r--l---r---l
1--e--a--2--e--a--3--e--a--4--e--a--1--e--a--2--e--a--3--e--a--4--e--a
Cause I can do that equal whether I start with r or l.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:52 PM
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So it's:
Cause I can do that equal whether I start with r or l.
How fast? Equal at a fast tempo?
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:31 PM
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this proves absolutely nothing. litreally nothing. all it demonstrates is that humans have a dominant hand (noprmally the right) and that the other hand is a bit less developed. that;s all this exercise shows. nothigng else.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:33 PM
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Started with my non dominant hand.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:34 PM
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also, the original desprition of the ex was so cryptic, heres is what is required in plain english:

play a steady series of beats alternating right and left hands and accent every 5th beat.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:13 PM
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also, the original desprition of the ex was so cryptic, heres is what is required in plain english:

play a steady series of beats alternating right and left hands and accent every 5th beat.
Mr Cryptic here

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