how geeky are we here, really???

[Seraphine]

Originally Posted by Seraphine

I also see the images created as part of music and not just the audio or sound. I do not mean Marketing or Corporate "tricks" when I mean images, though some are obviously Logo and emblem / symbol like, even the most sincere... Art.. without using "artist" like the newspeak buzzword it is these days. But the Arts...

Much of "music" has to do with culture... from clothes to attitudes to philosophies etc etc.. extending from individuals to groups to masses of people. Heck even the animals and plants are affected by the music played and set loose on the enviroment and world ( talk about Geek-ness! ). So when I think "Geek" about music and also Musicians... there's more to the picture than first meets my eye.

Originally Posted by Clifford-D

So you're saying geek and artistry don't share similar space?

hmmmm This is like when I give lessons and someone asks "How did you play that?" after I run something cool off... and we break it down as I try to figure what it is lol..

I separate the ( what has become conventional these days ) use of "artists", from ART, especially in regards to Music. I consider ARTS part of it all of course, but I file the using of "Artist" with Music and Musicians as euphemistic or shallow and practically meaningless at this point.

Sure there's "reasons" and excuses for it's use and what is "meant" by it.. There always are, no matter how stupid the new words or terms ( or application of same ).

When I hear someone use "artists".. "Consumers" or "Superstar" etc.. I listen carefully to them, because I consider such words meaningless. Yes "They" might know what they are trying to say... I don't. How many times has some figure on The Voice... Got Talent or X-Factor used the terms "Superstar" or "Artist"? The words are practically useless.. How many kids are starting to use them the same loose way?

So I was trying to include The Arts and not use the term "artists" as so commonly used these days. If that makes sense..

Geek is becoming practically the same way... a Newspeak buzzword with little meaning.

Is someone who knows ALL the Lyrics to songs and loves Meaning and Theme and Plots a Geek? .. especially compared with those that "love the beat" and dance and couldn't care less about the words?

It's like much of polite conversation most anywhere... Go a little bit deeper and you've lost half the crowd lol... Skim the Surface and it's easy. The trick might just be to still have substance over mere Image and wait for those that are like minded!