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Old 11-06-2009, 12:29 PM
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Howard Roberts - Super Chops?

What do you think of this book.

Appears to be out of print.

Page Hamilton talks it up on his instructional DVD, "Sonic Shapes".
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:45 PM
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It's an interesting approach to maximizing and organizing practice time.

The second great thing this book offers are some great soloing ideas over standard progressions. This is done through the solos being steady constant 8th notes. This means interest is generated through melody and placement of the melody in the 8th note scheme.

I don't do the practice routine, I just read the solos once in a while. I've memorized the first two solos, I'm sure I'm rusty on them.

Everything by Howard Roberts is great. I particularly like his book on Chord Melody.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:28 PM
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I love it, and think it's a very helpful and unique approach. I've worked through the book a couple of times. But yeah, just the examples alone are worth reading/playing through. Also the tips and pointers in the beginning of the book are well worth reading, also (of course, IMHO).
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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It is out of print but the Jazz Guitar group on Yahoo has a pdf file of it that one can download.

I am surprised that a well put together resource from someone as well known and connected (GIT) would be out of print.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:04 PM
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It is out of print but the Jazz Guitar group on Yahoo has a pdf file of it that one can download.

I am surprised that a well put together resource from someone as well known and connected (GIT) would be out of print.
I hear ya, that perplexes me too.....

.....that might be my pdf circulating- I scanned each page and posted the pdf here once upon a time!
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:05 PM
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Everything HR published on teaching is great IMO.


I have the 3 PRAXIS: Guitar Compendium books. Wonderful stuff.

And I think "Sonic Shapes" is an HR Term.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:13 PM
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I used to work at Cherry Lane. We published those various HR books. I suppose the public interest wasn't there anymore.

A couple of times I suggested reprinting them, but a no-go for whatever reason. I suppose the public interest wasn't there anymore and they ran their course, sales-wise.


I did grab a few copies that were headed for the bin when we moved offices though
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:46 AM
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I can see why Super Chops would go out of print - it requires you to work hard!!!
it is a serious commitment...
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:58 AM
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I can see why Super Chops would go out of print - it requires you to work hard!!!
it is a serious commitment...
You just might have a point, sadly
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:17 AM
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can u link to the pdf for me? cheers
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:24 PM
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can u link to the pdf for me? cheers



http://jjmtunes.com/Howard_Roberts_Superchops.pdf

There ya go! Should be able to right-click or control-click that link and save it....
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:20 AM
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Do you guys know if anyone has ever put together chord charts fro the project lessons? I have a tough time figuring out which chord voicings he is talking about, as I cannot read them. I'd love to go through the progressions and get them nailed down.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:43 AM
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Do you guys know if anyone has ever put together chord charts fro the project lessons? I have a tough time figuring out which chord voicings he is talking about, as I cannot read them. I'd love to go through the progressions and get them nailed down.
I suppose that Roberts figured that having the student work to figure out the chord voicings would be part of the learning process.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:47 AM
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Tried it but couldn't complete it, the changes were just too hard for me to play anything but nonsense over at the time I tried. Even now I'd probably sound like a scale/arpeggio bot playing those changes. I want to go through the course one day...I think it'd be fun.

O yeah, and one of the harder parts of the course is just playing all the recommended voicings. They are great voicings and the voice leading is nice, but they're a real bear to grip if you're not used to them!
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:07 PM
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Anyone think it'd be cool to do a collective TGP Super Chops thread in 2010? I thought it'd be a cool thing for a bunch of us who were interested (are there a bunch of us who are interested?) in going through the course to post their results with it every day. I figure it'd be a cool New Years resolution to complete the Super Chops course. A thread where we all share our experience might help motivate us through the rough humps in the course too.

Or is this just nerdy beyond words?

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