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Old 08-30-2010, 07:06 AM
Brian0192 Brian0192 is offline
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good wireless unit

hey guys, i am looking for a wireless system for my guitar. it can be a bit of a pain in the ass moving on stage so much with wires. i am a bit of a tone snob however, so if i cant get one that wont suck tone, please tell me. i have 400 usd to spend, could go a bit over.
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:11 AM
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I grabbed the new Line 6 relay wireless and I love it. It is much better than the Shure system I tried a few years ago. There are a few settings for cable type which to me just sounds like different degrees of subtle high-end roll off. You feel so much more free on stage with the wireless - I can never go back. The other nice thing is it's size - fits nicely on your pedalboard and can be powered with the same 9v power supply that you use for your pedals.
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:50 AM
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I recently purchased a Line 6 Relay G50 and really like it. It operates on AA batteries, which is great, and is built to last. I also purchased a charger and some rechargeable AA batteries...sweet! I highly recommend the G50.
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:25 PM
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I'm hearing lots of good things about line 6 products. I am looking at the X2 XDS-95, and I hear nothing but compliments across the board about it.

Of course I'll go try it myself to really figure it out, but I'd like some opinion on here. anyone ever try it? What's the difference between that unit, and the relay G50?
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:57 PM
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I had the X2 XDS and really liked it. Ate through 9 volt batteries fast. One gig that's it. I had the pack in my back pocket and sat down and it went crunch. It's made of plastic Bye bye X2. The X2 line has been discontinued. Line 6 bought them out and revamped the series and called it the Line 6 Relay series. I got the Relay G50 to replace my X2 XDS. The Relay G50 is the X2 just a new look and a few modifications. All steel construction on the receiver and the pack. A much better battery door and it use 2 AA batteries that last a lot longer. It has the TA4F style connection and I ordered a better cable for it through lavacables.com and got a Mogami and Canare cable for it. It's a great unit. I highly recommend it.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:14 PM
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I had the X2 XDS and really liked it. Ate through 9 volt batteries fast. One gig that's it. I had the pack in my back pocket and sat down and it went crunch. It's made of plastic Bye bye X2. The X2 line has been discontinued. Line 6 bought them out and revamped the series and called it the Line 6 Relay series. I got the Relay G50 to replace my X2 XDS. The Relay G50 is the X2 just a new look and a few modifications. All steel construction on the receiver and the pack. A much better battery door and it use 2 AA batteries that last a lot longer. It has the TA4F style connection and I ordered a better cable for it through lavacables.com and got a Mogami and Canare cable for it. It's a great unit. I highly recommend it.
Ditto! I had the X2 and really liked it but the plastic construction just wasn't going to work for me. Plus it ate 9V batteries like crazy!! Relay G50 is the way to go.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:40 PM
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I also really like the Line 6 Relay, I noticed little to no difference in tone when using it and the range was really good
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:52 PM
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I tried the Relay G30 today at a local guitar store. I also tried the X2 XDS.

The Relay G30 worked perfectly, and I'm usually a pain in the ass when it comes to how true the signal is. The X2 XDS sucked a lot of tone to my ears, and we went through 3 different ones straight out of the box to find one that even worked.

I noticed everybody here is talking about the G50? Is it that much of an improvement of the G30 for another $100? What is it exactly that the G30 even fails in that is an improvement over the G50?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:09 PM
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I tried the Relay G30 today at a local guitar store. I also tried the X2 XDS.

The Relay G30 worked perfectly, and I'm usually a pain in the ass when it comes to how true the signal is. The X2 XDS sucked a lot of tone to my ears, and we went through 3 different ones straight out of the box to find one that even worked.

I noticed everybody here is talking about the G50? Is it that much of an improvement of the G30 for another $100? What is it exactly that the G30 even fails in that is an improvement over the G50?
It isn't that the G30 was a bad unit, the G50 has a larger range, more channels, and the transmitter displays remaining battery life and other valuable info. The receiver also has a dial which helps emulate tonal values of cabling. I struggled for a while whether or not to spend the extra $100. I'm glad I did and could not be happier. Being able to read battery life and verify what channel I'm on in real time while gigging is a big advantage, especially with other band members using the same or similar wireless units.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:18 PM
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The Sennheiser EW172 G3 is a little expensive but you get what you pay for. Very tweakable in the input gain (at the belt pack) and the output gain (at the receiver) so you can really match the levels to what you would normally get with a cord. I notice very little change of tone and a good enough signal to noise ratio that you can even run compression and distortion devices. Heck I'm even able to use a G3 in front of a Trainwreck Express amp (which is quite high gain) and still have workable noise levels, even the clean to mean from the guitar pot is maintained. Typically though I use my G3 in front off a pedal board setup and a medium gain amp. I used to have the older G2 unit, and the G3 is noticably better. The transmitter is all metal except for the battery door, and uses x2 AA batteries which are cheaper than x1 9v. The receiver is all metal and can be rack mounted with an optional kit. About $500 but it's pro stuff!
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:05 PM
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For me the Lectrosonics IS-400 sounds absolutely stellar and amazing!
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:10 PM
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http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...d.php?t=754185

G50 for sale if you want a deal. Great system and cable simulator is a must have feature.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:23 AM
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The big difference between the G30 and the G50 besides the range is the construction. The G50 is all metal. The receiver and transmitter. The G30 is plastic. Been down that road. The plastic has never held up for me. Gotta have the metal.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:41 AM
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The big difference between the G30 and the G50 besides the range is the construction. The G50 is all metal. The receiver and transmitter. The G30 is plastic. Been down that road. The plastic has never held up for me. Gotta have the metal.
That's a selling factor for me. I wasn't totally set on anything else -- the battery life thing is convenient, but not only are AA's very cheap, I could buy rechargables and simply recharge them before and after every band practice/gig (I don't plan on using the wireless system at home -- no point in my eyes), no big deal.

The range for the G30 was also able to reach from one end of my guitar center to another -- which was as big as any stage I'll play (at least for where my band is at now.)

But if it's all metal construction, it seems like the G50 is the way to go then. Hopefully if chops' great deal is available by the time I snatch up my next paycheck, I'll have one in time for my next gig!

Thanks guys!

-Brian
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:53 AM
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I've used the Shure PGX14 (pretty sure that's what it's called) for almost a year and a half. don't really play large stadiums but we (bassist uses it aswell) jump around like idiots on stage. Works great.
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