Become a Supporting Member


Go Back   The Gear Page > The Gear Page Lounge > Recording/Live Sound

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-04-2012, 11:43 PM
imjustadrummer imjustadrummer is offline
Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle
Posts: 557
Do you "effect" your live drum sound?

what effects are you using on your live mic'd drums?

compressor, gait, reverb, eq, flanger?!?

differences b/w toms, snare, kick, overhead?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-05-2012, 04:56 AM
rokpunk rokpunk is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 1,851
it all depends what the drums need. a properly tuned drum kit typically needs no gating. generally speaking, if the drummer is inconsistent, i'll comp/gate his kick drum, and if the room/kit calls for it, i'll put a little room reverb on most of the kit (none on high hats or overheads, generally). anything over about a quarter of a second will magically make your kit sound like it's 1984 all over again (not in a good way).
__________________
Guitars: Gadow's, Gibson's, and a Martin
Amps: Carr Rambler, Fender Twin Reverb, Fender Super Champ (Rivera)
Live Sound Rig: Meyer Sound/Yamaha M7CL
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-05-2012, 05:07 AM
Nelson89 Nelson89 is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 3,219
Nothing too fancy, usually compression and EQ, and gate's on the toms
__________________
Live: Reverend Reeve Gabrels Sig. or Fender Jazzmaster > assorted pedals > Vox AC15HW1 or Peavy Delta Blues
Recording: UA Apollo Twin Duo, assorted mics, pres, comps

http://www.facebook.com/karmicdirt
http://www.facebook.com/matthewnelsonmusic
http://www.facebook.com/mattnelsonaudio
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-05-2012, 05:08 AM
MartinCliffe MartinCliffe is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tuen Mun, Hong Kong
Posts: 694
Compress the kick. If I'm close miking the toms, I'll usually gate them. Very rare occasions, if the room is particularly dead, a dash of reverb on the snare.
__________________
Hong Kong based English session guitarist.
New single Tick Talk out now!
Proud to be a part of the RJM Music Technology family.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-05-2012, 05:09 AM
disfrontman disfrontman is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 198
In my experience, a touch of 'verb on the snare is nice for live work. It all depends on the room, though. Often it is not necessary at all.

If you have a drummer with very good touch/stick control and wide dynamic contrast, a slight comp on the entire stereo drum mix can smooth things out nicely and make mixing the rest even easier. 99% of rock drummers are unrepentant pounders, though, with zero dynamics, and in that case the sound guy is just desperate to get the other instruments loud enough to compete in the mix with the raw acoustic output of the kit.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-05-2012, 11:03 AM
speakerjones speakerjones is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 1,945
Depends on type of music, dynamics, kit sound, etc. Typically a bit of short plate verb on snare and toms, (maybe kick). Comps as necessary on snare and kick, or sometime as more of an effect on the entire kit sent to a sub-group. I prefer not to use gates unless completely necessary.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-05-2012, 01:27 PM
Somniferous Somniferous is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brighton, MA
Posts: 1,207
Everything gets EQ'd, only rule is everything gets a HPF on it. Even kick, although I set it really low, usually to around 30-40Hz, just to get rid of rumble. Kick and snare will get compressed, sometimes even the toms and overheads depending upon what board I am using. I'll only gate if there is a problem somewhere, or if I end up bringing in the toms. Usually no reverb, but sometimes to the snare, which has to be gated if using reverb. And it it's a really big show and I have the gear, I'll parallel compress the kit.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-05-2012, 07:53 PM
mixwiz mixwiz is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,175
I've been known to cheat sometimes and use a trigger for the kik. I just don't tell the drummer.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-06-2012, 07:54 PM
bbrunskill bbrunskill is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wellington, New Zealand.
Posts: 3,322
I like to gate kick and toms,, compress kick to ensure it's punchy and very even and add a bit of plate verb on snare if the room is dry.

For jazz stuff or old school rock or blues I typically won't do anything. Just mic kick, snare and the recorderman overhead technique.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-08-2012, 01:12 AM
TimmyP TimmyP is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 1,195
Gate kick and toms to help control the over-ring ('tis a rare drum that does not ring too much). If the snare can get too loud in the house on it's own, I'll compress it in the PA so it's there only when needed. I comp the kick only if s/he has a sloppy foot. Snare verb if the room allows, tom verb if the room is really good, hat verb if the very is really good (most can't hack the hat).
__________________
Bench Tech (jr. grade :-) http://www.jonasproductions.com


Freelance mixperson: http://www.padrick.net/TP_Audio.htm
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-08-2012, 05:19 AM
rokpunk rokpunk is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 1,851
it's early in the morning, so forgive my memory, but i use this purple goo stuff on rack toms to keep them from ringing, rather than gating them. i can't for the life of me remember what it's called, but it's goo-like stuff, and you just need a 1"x1" slick of it per drum.
__________________
Guitars: Gadow's, Gibson's, and a Martin
Amps: Carr Rambler, Fender Twin Reverb, Fender Super Champ (Rivera)
Live Sound Rig: Meyer Sound/Yamaha M7CL
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-08-2012, 06:17 AM
dmagalhaes dmagalhaes is offline
Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Dartmouth, Massachusetts
Posts: 1,434
My drummer doesn't mic at all unless we are playing a gig where the PA is hired for us.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-08-2012, 07:48 AM
loudboy loudboy is offline
Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 14,323
Quote:
Originally Posted by rokpunk View Post
it's early in the morning, so forgive my memory, but i use this purple goo stuff on rack toms to keep them from ringing, rather than gating them. i can't for the life of me remember what it's called, but it's goo-like stuff, and you just need a 1"x1" slick of it per drum.
Moon Gel, and it's blue.
__________________
Loudboy

"Thank You, NASA!"
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-08-2012, 01:12 PM
bbrunskill bbrunskill is offline
Senior Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wellington, New Zealand.
Posts: 3,322
I'm keen to check out this moon gel, if it does away with the need for gating!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©1999-2014, The Gear Page, LLC, Brian Scherzer
All rights reserved.
Banner Design: Chris Sileo