The Gold Standard Marshall Tone (for me)

[Gasp100]

This is it, I've never heard a modeler come remotely close to this tone (and believe me, I have tried). Anyway, amazing demo that I grabbed a long time ago from a "vs" thread someone posted. Jack Devine killing it with a strat into a Metro built JTM45....

http://soundcloud.com/gasp100/jackdevine

[blewis]

Originally Posted by Gasp100

This is it, I've never heard a modeler come remotely close to this tone (and believe me, I have tried). Anyway, amazing demo that I grabbed a long time ago from a "vs" thread someone posted. Jack Devine killing it with a strat into a Metro built JTM45....

http://soundcloud.com/gasp100/jackdevine

My first thought was "man, I wish this guy had a Kemper when he recorded that track". My second thought was "man, that AxeII feature of tuning a patch based on solo guitar track is going to come in real handy".

[rufedges]

Ehhhh,..........if your preferred Marshall sound is the 70's type Marshall sound, I guess you have found it. Doesn't do much for me though, sounds a little to swampy /Black Sabbath-y/ very classic rock for me.

[Dr Git]

I like this tone too greg...the woman tone at 2:25-ish is awesome and is hard to duplicate

[Gasp100]

Originally Posted by rufedges

Ehhhh,..........if your preferred Marshall sound is the 70's type Marshall sound, I guess you have found it. Doesn't do much for me though, sounds a little to swampy /Black Sabbath-y/ very classic rock for me.

I guess I should have qualified that this is my favorite old school straight ahead Marshall tone. Clearly it's a JTM tone, so no hot rodded tones happening. To be totally honest, almost every modeler I have owned could nail a good JCM800 and beyond tone and many do the cranked Plexi's well too.
This one is completely organic, creaking and crackling... did you listen to the litte ACDC riffage interspersed near the end? Perfect imho.

[thirsty one]

Originally Posted by Gasp100

I guess I should have qualified that this is my favorite old school straight ahead Marshall tone. Clearly it's a JTM tone, so no hot rodded tones happening. To be totally honest, almost every modeler I have owned could nail a good JCM800 and beyond tone and many do the cranked Plexi's well too.
This one is completely organic, creaking and crackling... did you listen to the litte ACDC riffage interspersed near the end? Perfect imho.

Nice tone Greg. I have only had fractal modelers, Standard, Ultra, and now the II, but I could not get that particular tone. I just chalked it up to my 50 year old pair of ears, but that reminds me of some of Germino (sp) clips.

[baranger1]

I found I can get very close to that with a POD HD and some careful EQ....
PHD Motorway and 212PHD ported cab.

[shasha]

I'm with Gasp100 on this one; that sounds fantastic.

[RedTiger]

My Marshall preferences are more on the "Brown" side of things, if you know what I mean, but just about any Marshall tone sounds good to me.

[robertkoa]

The chords might be really tricky to get with a Modeler- the way they crunch up but are still articulate.......and these tones with a track behind them and a little delay ( just my pref ) would definitely be great-may be hard to tell solo like this for some people.

[stratzrus]

Originally Posted by blewis

My second thought was "man, that AxeII feature of tuning a patch based on solo guitar track is going to come in real handy".

It will be interesting to see what Tone Matching can do with that clip.

[mdme_sadie]

Yup, it's a tough one. But i'd recommend exploring the Blackstar profiles on your Kemper rather than the JTM's (although UWE's is very nice) as they're more true to the unmodded sound IMO. Set them up with a short small room verb with virtually no predelay and a very high mix level and you'll have a good starting point for the sounds you're after. Here's a quicky I did following that approach, it's not there at all, but it's a starting point. The other thing I'd say is a lot of that sound is the player and their guitar, so unfortunately as I'm not much of a player and I'm definitely not using the right guitar and pickups on this please forgive me. http://www.peranders.com/general/blackstarsound01.aif The main area it's missing to me is on the mids which is really down to the profile, and the attack which is down to me (sorry). Anyhow, hopefully that'll give you a starting point (and hopefully someone will profile a good unmodded JTM with a similar sound sometime soon!).

[colluluigi]

Originally Posted by Gasp100

This is it, I've never heard a modeler come remotely close to this tone (and believe me, I have tried). Anyway, amazing demo that I grabbed a long time ago from a "vs" thread someone posted. Jack Devine killing it with a strat into a Metro built JTM45....

http://soundcloud.com/gasp100/jackdevine

listen to it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qs4a...layer_embedded

[Gasp100]

I have some gear in route that should get me close...

[Gasp100]

Originally Posted by colluluigi

listen to it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qs4a...layer_embedded

Sorry, no cigar...
It sounds nice, it REALLY does. But I had the Kemper and I spent a LOT of time with the Golub profile (without all of the wet FX) and no, it's not close to the girth, grunt, clarity, heart and soul of the Jack Devine clip which is completely and utterly dry... you can hear the cab creaking as he rips the tones with his strat.
If you have owned the KPA and can peel back the layers of delay, reverb, etc... you can hear the signature sound. Good stuff, but not IT imho.
Is that SamTheMan playing the KPA in that clip? If so, listen to his Bogner Goldfinger demos - on another level.