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Old 12-12-2005, 05:55 PM
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Pedals with old 65 Fender Deluxe?

Well, after going through a pile of amps du jour, I recently traded a buddy for an old 65 Deluxe and had Michael Purkhiser dial it in, remove a mod or two and such and I put a Blue in it and it is one amazing amp. I can't play very loud usually so I am having pretty good success with just the amp set on two which is a great clean tone and I have been using a FD2 and an Eternity , Keeley Comp...Just wondering what were your fave pedals for use with a Deluxe amp...not limiting it to drives..Comps..Fuzz, Distortion..all good suggestions are welcome! Hey, even bad suggestions are welcome...
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:17 PM
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I dont have a old 65 Deluxe reverb but do have the 65 Deluxe Reverb RI but to make it more compatable with pedals I removed the Bright cap installed all JJ tubes except a 12AX7EH in V2, here is my pedalboard that I use with the 65 DRRI and also a 59 Bassman RI!

The Barber pedals work great with both my amps!
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:53 PM
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I've got a '65 as well. Best I have found into it is a Timmy followed by a Diamond Compressor to round out the tone a bit. Sounds wonderful cranked or at home levels! Next I'm gonna try a Scumback speaker in it, I've been thru quite a few speakers and settled on an Eminence Texas Heat, but after putting a Scumback into my Bruno I'm almost certain the right Scumback into this DR will be glorious!
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:14 PM
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I've got a '65 as well. Best I have found into it is a Timmy followed by a Diamond Compressor to round out the tone a bit. Sounds wonderful cranked or at home levels! Next I'm gonna try a Scumback speaker in it, I've been thru quite a few speakers and settled on an Eminence Texas Heat, but after putting a Scumback into my Bruno I'm almost certain the right Scumback into this DR will be glorious!
I'll bet the Scumback will be great. Have you tried a blue? It really is an awesome combination...obviously if you wind it up you might blow it, but it will sound heavenly before you get there! I have a Timmy but I haven't really tried it with the Deluxe much. How do you use it with the Dlx and for what level of drive/crunch? What is this diamond comp?
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:18 PM
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I dont have a old 65 Deluxe reverb but do have the 65 Deluxe Reverb RI but to make it more compatable with pedals I removed the Bright cap installed all JJ tubes except a 12AX7EH in V2, here is my pedalboard that I use with the 65 DRRI and also a 59 Bassman RI!

The Barber pedals work great with both my amps!

I had Purkhiser put a brite switch in the second input hole, so the brite cap is out completely when switched off, but we put a cap in that is even a little briter so if I want clean sparkle for a whole tune, I can flip the switch and it is even a little more sparkly than usual. this cap value can of courese be changed to taste...def needs to be off for overdrives and such tho , I agree...
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:02 PM
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I'll bet the Scumback will be great. Have you tried a blue? It really is an awesome combination...obviously if you wind it up you might blow it, but it will sound heavenly before you get there! I have a Timmy but I haven't really tried it with the Deluxe much. How do you use it with the Dlx and for what level of drive/crunch? What is this diamond comp?
I have not tried a Blue, came close to going for a Red Fang (Eminence's version of a Blue) but got sidetracked by this whole Scumback thing...

I'm not a purist in terms of keeping the DR's tone faithful to what folks think a DR should sound like, so I'm psyched for the Scumback.

Anyway! As far as the Timmy goes, I've got mine set so I tame a bit of treble (the Timmy can be pretty bright too). Settings: Bass - 3 o'clock, Treble - 2 o'clock, Volume - Noon, Gain - 1:30.

The Diamond Compressor adds a touch of compression and because it has an 'EQ' knob, I tailor the overall tone that way too. I suspect with the nice breakup of a Scumback, I might not need the compressor at that point, but with the Texas Heat speaker, it doesn't break up very early so the compressor adds that bit of stickiness to the notes... hope that makes sense!
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:00 PM
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Just about every pedal I threw at my '66 DR sounded great. My current fav OD pedals with it are MI Audio Blue Boy and old FD2.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:59 AM
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I have not tried a Blue,

If you get a chance I highly recommend it. I stumbled on it by accident a while back when I borrowed this amp for one gig and used an open back extension cab with a blue in it. Then when getting Purkhiser to work on it, he agreed that a blue is his favorite in the small wattage Fenders..My other friend had his old princeton serviced at the same time as me and put a blue in that as well and it is also amazing in there. I have some original Black back G12H30 with 444 bass cones which is probably the model Scumback clone you would want with open back but I haven't popped one in the Deluxe yet so I can't say but knowing those speakers pretty well, as awesome as they are, I think it would be hard to beat the blue. Again, of course there are power handling issues, and if you need maximum volume from your Deluxe the Blue is probably not the best choice, but you can get the blue to sing in there at a nice volume and the clean is astounding....
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:12 AM
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I had a '65 bfdr for awhile and it loved pedals. The FDII and TC Jauernig DGTM were my favorite drive pedals with it.
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:38 AM
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I have not tried a Blue, came close to going for a Red Fang (Eminence's version of a Blue) but got sidetracked by this whole Scumback thing...

I'm not a purist in terms of keeping the DR's tone faithful to what folks think a DR should sound like, so I'm psyched for the Scumback.

Anyway! As far as the Timmy goes, I've got mine set so I tame a bit of treble (the Timmy can be pretty bright too). Settings: Bass - 3 o'clock, Treble - 2 o'clock, Volume - Noon, Gain - 1:30.

The Diamond Compressor adds a touch of compression and because it has an 'EQ' knob, I tailor the overall tone that way too. I suspect with the nice breakup of a Scumback, I might not need the compressor at that point, but with the Texas Heat speaker, it doesn't break up very early so the compressor adds that bit of stickiness to the notes... hope that makes sense!
BTW thanks for the suggestions.. I think I would like to check out the Diamond ...on another thread a guy said the Barber tonepress unseated it though due to its ability to blend the uncompressed signal back in..Have you tried a Barber? How much is a Diamond? I know I could look this up, but I am just making conversation..

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Old 12-13-2005, 08:57 AM
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If you get a chance I highly recommend it. I stumbled on it by accident a while back when I borrowed this amp for one gig and used an open back extension cab with a blue in it. Then when getting Purkhiser to work on it, he agreed that a blue is his favorite in the small wattage Fenders..My other friend had his old princeton serviced at the same time as me and put a blue in that as well and it is also amazing in there. I have some original Black back G12H30 with 444 bass cones which is probably the model Scumback clone you would want with open back but I haven't popped one in the Deluxe yet so I can't say but knowing those speakers pretty well, as awesome as they are, I think it would be hard to beat the blue. Again, of course there are power handling issues, and if you need maximum volume from your Deluxe the Blue is probably not the best choice, but you can get the blue to sing in there at a nice volume and the clean is astounding....
Here is a new post re: what Mitch Colby at Vox has to say about Blue power handling: From Mitch Colby at Vox:

"The Vox Blue up until a couple of months ago was identical to the
Celestion Blue. Celestion is now making the Vox blue at their factory in
China. The Celestion Blue is still made in the UK. Based on history and
our testing, the ones coming out of China are more consistent and sound
more like Vintage Blues than the ones made in the UK. I know it's hard
to believe but it's true.

They are underrated. I have seen vintage Blues that were used in Fender
Twin Reverbs for years without blowing although I wouldn't recommend it.
I have personally bought vintage AC30s with original unreconed Blues.

They are rated at 15 watts but can probably handle more like 20 with a
distorted signal and somewhat more with a clean signal.

They are expensive and the low failure rate is a good thing. If they
were blowing all the time we would probably have to change to another
speaker option."

Unquote...Here is the thread if anyone cares to check it out..
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...1&goto=newpost
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:29 AM
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Re: the Barber Tone Press, I have not had a chance to try it. Sounds like it would be a nice unit - either that or the Diamond would be my choice...

And as far as the Blue goes... I feel the winds of GAS making their way to me! Nice breakup on that speaker? Anyone have a link to the China-made speaker to buy? I will say tho' that I do wind up that amp to @ 9 many times. I wonder if the Red Fang can handle power a bit better...?
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:37 AM
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Sorry, one other thought... anyone compare a Blue to a G12H30 in this amp?
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:46 AM
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I've got a 64 Deluxe and settled on a Emi. Cannabis Rex after trying a boatload of speakers...

the Rex just smooths out the top end and tightens up the bass and gives the most headroom I've had out of my Deluxe....I can actually crank my amp to ten without flab...overdrive tones are smooth and creamy...

For pedals I like a BJF Honeybee, Timmy, Menatone Foxy Brown, MI Audio Blues Pro, Pro Analog Powerdrive and a Klon ain't half bad either...

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Old 12-13-2005, 10:51 AM
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Yes, I've heard many happy campers after using a C Rex in their DR... So many choices! The breakin in brutal on that speaker tho', huh? Did you happen to compare the C Rex to a Blue or G12H30 Seegs?

Sorry for the hijack! Hope it isn't too irrelevant...
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