Running Two Deluxe Reverbs...

[ReddRanger]

Hypothetically speaking, could you run two Deluxe Reverbs but only using one as an extension cab?

So, one Deluxe Reverb is unplugged from it's speaker, and the speaker is plugged into the other as an extension cab. You would actually only be using one amp, with the other chassis left as a back up...

Any opinions and or experience? Lame idea? Do-able but sounds like crap? Should work just fine?

Thanks.

[kiteflyer]

that will work fine. The DR sounds good with an extension 12, but I would try using both amps stereo if you are lugging them both around anyway. Have to make sure you plug into the same input on both amps, and make sure both speakers are wired with the same polarity. This keeps the amps in phase...Sounds great.

[rmconner80]

You'll be dealing with an impedance mismatch if you run two 8 ohm speakers in parallel to a DR. This isn't a huge problem arguably unless you are turning it up real loud, or your amp is not healthy, though it will sound "different" than using two speakers at the correct total secondary load (8 ohms).

If you run two amps (great sounding but more volume), you will have ground loops unless you have an isolated splitter.

In short there is no easy answer, though either option is probably close enough for rock and roll.

[E-Rock]

I'd run both in stereo. I think that was Trey's rig for a while.
Stereo Deluxes!

[Dana Olsen]

Originally Posted by E-Rock

I'd run both in stereo. I think that was Trey's rig for a while.
Stereo Deluxes!

It was a lot of peoples' rigs at one time or another.

I agree - as long as you're lugging both of 'em, use 'em both in stereo. Very unlikely that both DR's will crap out at the same time. If one goes down, switch to mono. Great idea, especially if you get your gain sound from pedals. It'll sound wonderful. Stereo effects onstage are tons of fun!

Dana O.

[aeolian]

I used a non-reverb Deluxe with a 1-12 extension cab at one time, it sounded great. I agree with the "spare amp" bit. If you think either of them is unreliable, get it to a tech and have it checked out. They should be pretty durable. And as some folks suggested, if one goes out on you, you just lose a bit of volume but you can still keep playing.

John Philips has asserted many times here that the DR output transformer was originally designed for 6L6's and when Fender switched over to 6V6's for the Deluxe, the impedance was off. The OT actually comes out at 16 ohms. It tolerates 8 ohms reasonably well, that John maintained that that was the reason why DR's have the flubbiest bottom ends of any Fender. Unloading it down to 4 ohms (two conventional 8 ohm speakers) would make it looser still. Maybe (beside's HAD's tender touch) that's why RF's DR sounds so good. He has a 15 ohm C65 in there (I looked).

[ReddRanger]

Thanks, I appreciate all your input. So for running them in stereo (I can't find the other thread where I think this was already discussed), are you better off daisy chaining them, using a y split cable, or some effect that has two outputs (i.e. Boss Chorus with stereo outs). Keep in mind, I'm a person that usually uses no other effects besides the occasional OD.

So basically, I'd like to run two Deluxes and just one OD pedal.

Thanks again.

[Tread]

What years are the Fender Deluxes from?

[ReddRanger]

Originally Posted by Tread

What years are the Fender Deluxes from?

Sorry I wasn't clear. I don't actually own any Deluxes yet. I am considering picking up a couple, possibly even the DRRI's. I figured that one is perfect for most things I need, and if I ever need more amp, i could run two.

[mikoo69]

im considering doing this as well...what is the benefit to running stereo though? wet/dry rig with delay in one amp only??

[Gary Brennan]

Originally Posted by aeolian

John Philips has asserted many times here that the DR output transformer was originally designed for 6L6's and when Fender switched over to 6V6's for the Deluxe, the impedance was off. The OT actually comes out at 16 ohms. It tolerates 8 ohms reasonably well, that John maintained that that was the reason why DR's have the flubbiest bottom ends of any Fender. Unloading it down to 4 ohms (two conventional 8 ohm speakers) would make it looser still. Maybe (beside's HAD's tender touch) that's why RF's DR sounds so good. He has a 15 ohm C65 in there (I looked).

Does anyone know if this applies to the DRRI?

gb

[epluribus]

Originally Posted by Gary Brennan

Does anyone know if this applies to the DRRI?

gb

Verrrrrry interesting, gb, ya beat me to it. How 'bout the DR II?

I don't know John Phillips--is he on the list here, uses a website? I have an old Sunn 16 ohm 12" and a couple of Carvin `16 ohm V30 knock-offs laying around here...

--Ray

[epluribus]

Originally Posted by rmconner80

... you will have ground loops unless you have an isolated splitter.

An isolated splitter--not familiar with 'em. Listed that way on the gear-seller websites?

Thx for the tip.

--Ray

[giggedy]

trey never did this, he has one as a backup

[axepilot]

Originally Posted by ReddRanger

Thanks, I appreciate all your input. So for running them in stereo (I can't find the other thread where I think this was already discussed), are you better off daisy chaining them, using a y split cable, or some effect that has two outputs (i.e. Boss Chorus with stereo outs). Keep in mind, I'm a person that usually uses no other effects besides the occasional OD.

So basically, I'd like to run two Deluxes and just one OD pedal.

Thanks again.

Use a good A/B/Y box. I use a Framptone amp switcher to run two amps and it's worth it's weight in gold. It's transformer coupled - no noticeable signal loss when running both amps, and no ground loop issues. It's also very transparent. Run your entire signal chain into the Framptone's input, and the outputs split it out to both amps.

http://www.frampton.com/framptone.html