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Old 03-06-2007, 08:16 AM
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Voodoosound is GREATPHARO.

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Old 03-06-2007, 08:40 AM
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As far as the Connie goes, if you get a good one then you can get some real good sounds from it. Only you can decide if it's worth the price. I've also heard one that had some serious issues with it. So right now my personal experience with Connie's is 50/50. The circuit is essentially a Vox AC30 pre mixed with a Trainwreck Rocket filtering (which was taken from a Vox AC30). Funny huh?


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Wow, wrong on all counts.

There are no "good" or "bad" Constellations, they are very consistent when they leave here. The Constellation's Achilles' heel is that it is very dependent on a great electric guitar player to sound great. I'm not surprised Stu likes it, he can play.

If you indeed know of a Constellation "with serious issues", please ask the owner to get in touch with me so I can fix it for him.

The preamp has nothing in common with an AC30. Different number of gain stages, very different voltages and operating points, and "look Ma, no tone controls".

The Rocket's filtering is one of the parts that were not "taken" from an AC30, it's as different as it can possibly be. Not only are all the filter cap values different, one is a series-pi arrangement, the other one is a radial supply.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:44 AM
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No way??? Really ?

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Old 03-06-2007, 08:46 AM
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Whats the big deal?

I don't have any reason to support or not support Fat Sound, never dealt with them. There seems to be an obvious perfectly good explanation for this situation. I don't understand the apparent bitterness, it seems excessive and unwarranted to me. Someone trades in the amp... some employee or maybe even Stu himself posts it to the website like they do with every piece of gear that comes in. In the mean time someone comes in and demos the amp through a cab or two and lo and behold cab 2 makes the amp sound like the grail. According to those who know him, apparently Stu is gearhead and gets some gas over this amp and starts thinking he may want to keep it. Someone calls in during this whole process and is told that the status of the amp is unsure at the moment during the decision making process. Maybe he did not know entirely what he had and wanted to research it a bit first. Maybe it was a lot more valuable then he knew and he wanted to find out. Probably sounds a bit strange to the caller but has the caller himself never been in the midst of a decision where he was temporarily unsure of what he would ultimately do? What if someone pressed him at that moment, how would he respond? What if he just got a guitar, put it up for sale and then and found out it might be a 59 burst and only at that moment was told it may be worth a lot of money and someone called at that second to buy it... Is he wrong for delaying the sale?

Soon thereafter, the decision was made to keep the amp for himself. No problem. I could see if he quoted a price and it was agreed to and then he sold the amp to someone else for more money or something, now that would not be cool. Apparently the waffling was percieved as an attempt to elicit a big offer, but if this was the case what would have prevented him from just asking a big price right then and there? Maybe the perception was incorrect.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:56 AM
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Didn't he squealch on some emporium deals?

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Old 03-06-2007, 09:09 AM
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Didn't he squealch on some emporium deals?

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He's currently banned from TGP (don't know what he did). But his negative rep goes WAY back.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Now that I know who he is, I don't have to bite my tongue anymore. Stu told me he was a copping a tude from the onset of their call. Didn't want to pay "collector" prices since he was a "player". This is his shtick that he's been called on time and again. Your gear is crap when he's buying it, it's God's gift when he sells it.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:10 AM
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No way??? Really ?

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When he told me we'd done a deal, I suspected it was him. He made a mistake of registering with an email address, that's how I know it's him.
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:30 AM
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Sorry bud wrong guy. And for the record there was no mention of what I was willing to pay I asked very straight and direct how much. I did say I am not interested in the signature as it holds no value to me nor to the amp. In my opinion.
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:43 AM
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Sorry bud wrong guy.
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Things that make you go hmmmm....
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:06 AM
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There's no cliquing going on. In fact I don't remember joining a Stu/Fat Sound fan club.

It's just that he's new here (<25 posts), and posts something negative about Stu, who has a reputation made of gold. If you search this forum, you'll find all kinds of threads about how great Fat Sound is. You're making him out to be Ed Roman, so we all find that hard to believe...

Generally if someone gets inflammatory in their first few posts on TGP, it doesn't bode well for them. If that's cliquey, so be it.
Personally, I've had nothing but GREAT experience with Stu as well as the other guys at Fat Sound. My point was mainly to point out the nature of this board.

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Old 03-06-2007, 11:09 AM
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Things that make you go hmmmm....
Well then, there you go...

Anyway, Stu and Fat Sound have NEVER played games with me and I've done a ton of deals with them!

Looks like the Connie is off the Fat Sound website.

Hogy, great amps BTW!!!
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:15 AM
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Wow, wrong on all counts.

There are no "good" or "bad" Constellations, they are very consistent when they leave here. The Constellation's Achilles' heel is that it is very dependent on a great electric guitar player to sound great. I'm not surprised Stu likes it, he can play.

If you indeed know of a Constellation "with serious issues", please ask the owner to get in touch with me so I can fix it for him.

The preamp has nothing in common with an AC30. Different number of gain stages, very different voltages and operating points, and "look Ma, no tone controls".

The Rocket's filtering is one of the parts that were not "taken" from an AC30, it's as different as it can possibly be. Not only are all the filter cap values different, one is a series-pi arrangement, the other one is a radial supply.
OK, maybe not serious issues with it, but it had nothing to do with the player. Maybe it was the tubes. Who knows because I didn't open it up but I know it didn't sound like the first one I heard.

I won't argue with you Hogy, but obviously things have to be different to accomodate the preamp tube, etc.

You would know more than most that there is "borrowed' stuff in there. Maybe tweaked along the way with different values to make it your own design, but that's how we cloners operate, right?



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Old 03-06-2007, 11:23 AM
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D'oh....................

Sorry, disingenuous at best.


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Old 03-06-2007, 11:24 AM
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OK, maybe not serious issues with it, but it had nothing to do with the player. Maybe it was the tubes. Who knows because I didn't open it up but I know it didn't sound like the first one I heard.

I won't argue with you Hogy, but obviously things have to be different to accomodate the preamp tube, etc.

You would know more than most that there is "borrowed' stuff in there. Maybe tweaked along the way with different values to make it your own design, but that's how we cloners operate, right?



-Rich
First you said the amp had serious issues. Now you say it may have been tubes---which are not serious issues but expected maintenance. Then you acknowledge you don't know enough to argue about the Constellation design, then you refer to Hogy as a cloner?

You are seriously trying to stir something up. :NUTS
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Old 03-06-2007, 12:21 PM
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Hogy stated that the EF86s have to be good quality NOS. Mine had all kids of squealing until I got the right tubes in there. Not a design issue.
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