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Old 03-17-2007, 12:35 PM
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Rivera Quiana versus Mesa Rectoverb

Searching for a new combo amp with both solid clean and crunch tones. Tried both the Rivera Quiana and Mesa Rectoverb. Both similiar wattage, 1x12, and 6L6 tubes. While the Quiana is more expensive, I can get it for around the same price as a new Rectoverb because it would be discounted due to some cosmetic damaged to the tolex along with if I trade one of my amps towards it. On immediate first playing impression I much liked the Quiana over the Rectoverb. I am leaning towards it now, but I can get a decent deal on a used Rectoverb right now. Opinions on these two amps?
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:13 PM
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Quiana may have better resale
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:14 PM
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Before I bought my Rivera Rake Reverb Head, I was looking at the Quiana. Very nice amp, very versatile. Can the Mesa get as nice a clean tone as the Riivera? I doubt it.

I'm curious as to the weight difference between the two. I bet the Mesa is much heavier.
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:27 PM
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IMO the Quiana has a better clean tone. Was easy to dial in. Flexible tone shaping options. Weight wise...rectoverb is heavier. Neither is unmanageable to handle. The Quiana's cabinet seems slightly deeper.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:21 PM
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I own a Quiana, An Original BFSR,A Maven Peal,a MarshallJCM900,and now
A Modded Hot Rod the is Awesome! and somehow, I end up going to my Quiana?..... Once you swap tubes, and speaker, ( I put a Tone Tubby)
The amp is as sweet as can be, Black face and tweed sounds, on the clean channel, and nice creamy marshally sounds on the lead one,
now, I a experimenting w' YJ, and el 84's, and Man!went into another dimention!....

I don't know anything about the Mesa, Sorry, but I am a very happy
Owner of a Q!
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:03 AM
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Hands down...Rivera.

The rectoverb is harsh spitty and the over compressed tones feel like they're fighting your playing when you try to up the mids at all. The cleans are far better on any Rivera, and the Overdrive is much more lush, rich, punchy, and musical than the Rectoverb. I've owned both amps and the Rectoverb was gone many moons ago. I use the Rivera Chubster now in it's place (higher gain uses, w/ good cleans) and I never look back
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:10 AM
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Rivera...Better tone,better quality,better customer service..Fandango owner here!!
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:50 AM
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Quiana may have better resale
Oooooh.....wouldn't count on that. Used Rivera's a deal-and-a-half. You can find a used Quiana for well under a grand.

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Old 03-19-2007, 09:51 AM
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I'm curious as to the weight difference between the two. I bet the Mesa is much heavier.
The Quiana is an anvil. I'd be surprised if anything in it's class is heavier. It's like 65 pounds. If the Mesa is heavier, WOW. Hope I never have to carry either across quicksand...

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Old 03-19-2007, 10:00 AM
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I owned a Quiana for a LONG time.

Pros: best spring 'verb on any combo amp ever. As good as it gets IMO. Very nice clean sound. Very flexible tone shaping controls. Effects loop has level controls so you can use it a built-in volume attenuator via a patch-cord...very cool.

Cons: Flabby bass. Very heavy. Distortion channel isn't great. It's very beady sounding...I usually kept to the treble below 2 on that channel. Resale value stinks.

Before I sold it I considered swapping out the speaker to try and tame the bass. I decided against it. Not interested in throwing more money after such and expensive amp...just not my thing. I could never reconcile with the distortion channel.

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Old 03-19-2007, 11:28 AM
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Extremely happy Quiana owner here. But like most things gear-related, this depends on what you're looking for. I'd highly recommend the Quiana for really nice cleans, its versatility, its reverb, and more vintage tones.

And I think it sounds excellent stock. It may be able to benefit from a speaker change or tube swap, but it is still a great sounding amp stock.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:56 PM
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I really like the Rectoverb, I have a nice 8502 tele that I use with it and I am able to get some nice spanking clean tones out of it. The distortion channel is one of the best I have ever had, nice smooth liquid gain in pushed mode. I am extreamly happy with it.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:10 PM
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I don't really think they are apples and oranges, judging by the way they are voiced.

Most any Rivera will kill a recto series amp's clean channel, IMO.

Those two amps' dirty channels aren't that similar at all, so that should tell you something right there. What kind of a dirty sound are you going for? If you want modern high gain, I'd prolly go Mesa. If you don't, then don't.

The Recto series amps are pretty bass heavy, and it's a big 1x12, so that amp sounds VERY big for it's size.

I don't think they are that similar, so it kind of depends on how important your clean tone is to you and what kind of dirt tones you're going for.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:42 PM
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I`m a very happy Quianna owner. V1 +3 Tesla Rosnov E83CC, V2 RFT. Brilliant cleans and crushing distortion with the RFT in V2 especially hitting the footswitch dirty boost. Good Luck!!
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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I owned a Quiana for a LONG time.

Pros: best spring 'verb on any combo amp ever. As good as it gets IMO. Very nice clean sound. Very flexible tone shaping controls. Effects loop has level controls so you can use it a built-in volume attenuator via a patch-cord...very cool.

Cons: Flabby bass. Very heavy. Distortion channel isn't great. It's very beady sounding...I usually kept to the treble below 2 on that channel. Resale value stinks.

Before I sold it I considered swapping out the speaker to try and tame the bass. I decided against it. Not interested in throwing more money after such and expensive amp...just not my thing. I could never reconcile with the distortion channel.

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I used to own a quiana 4x10 and agree with what you say...best reverb you can find in a combo

My advice would be to get a quiana with 10 inch speakers...12 celestions have flubby bass and seem too modern for the amp...the 10 inch eminence have a tighter response in the low end and seem to break up smoothly on the dirty channel

The quiana sounds great with single coils and p-90s...it really shines with fenders and gretsches

I never could get a really good sound out of my quiana with an LP type guitar with humbuckers

It's definately VINTAGE...it is definately at home in the pre-Hendrix era
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