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Old 03-27-2007, 10:50 AM
hunkowood hunkowood is offline
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What is better than the CAGED system ?

O.K. The title says it all. Any and all help would be great.

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Old 03-27-2007, 11:12 AM
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Better in what way? What kind of system are you looking for?

CAGED is a framework to show where the triads lay across the neck. Its value really multiplies when you merge/overlay it with the various scale fingeing you have at your command.

Asimilar scheme is the Drop-2 or Drop-3 system of voicing 7th chords. Enter he search term "Drop-2" and you will unearth some threads about this. I started one with a link to a site that listed these chords. This system is an organized way to pay inversions of 7th chords all over the neck. It in fact merges with the CAGED system. It is not better, although it deals with more notes (4 note chords) and has moe grips to learn.
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:18 AM
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In addition to the CAGED system, I've found it very useful to think about fingerings that break out of individual positions. I like to finger things along a single string, a pair of strings, skipping strings, two notes per string, four notes per string, and more. CAGED is a great way of finding your way around the fingerboard and I teach it to my students, but it isn't the catch-all for thinking about the fingerboard.

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Old 03-27-2007, 11:38 AM
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Yeah, Better wasn't best word to use I should have said options. I want to really woodshed on my chording and want different things to try. I would like to try several systems and pick the best for me. Thanks in advance for all of your help.

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Old 03-27-2007, 11:46 AM
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:10 PM
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Not good fingers?

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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I want to really woodshed on my chording and want different things to try.
Do you have Ted Greene's books? I highly recommend "Chord Chemistry" and "Modern Chord Progressions." Both really opened my mind to chording/voicing possibilities.

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:21 PM
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Not good fingers?

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Old 03-27-2007, 01:33 PM
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People can learn the scales in different positions and the chords in different position, CAGED just puts it all together into one method. It's kind of the "method" of the fretboard.

Personally back when I started playing, almost 20 years before the Internet was on my desk, I had been using this method on my own for unlocking the fretboard...long before I had fisrt heard of CAGED. I think first heard about (stumbled upon it) watching a Joe Pass video from the 80's.

Use any method you can find to memorize the fretboard. Just concentrate on the ones that make the most sense to you. You CAN NOT hurt yourself by doing so.
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:37 PM
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The answer to this question IMO is almost totally dependent on you and how you best process and learn information... there are many ways to do that and learn what's in the CAGED system... for me, it took me quite a while to digest it and even now, it's not really set up in the way that I personally process & retain information, so what's better for someone else may or may not be better for you.... I think gennation just said the same thing I did/was typing

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Old 03-27-2007, 02:22 PM
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Two CAGED systems!?

Sorry... couldn't resist.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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UN-caged system?
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:04 PM
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PlaneTalk by Kirk Lorange

It was the book that made me say A-HA! Now I get it.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:26 PM
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PlaneTalk by Kirk Lorange

It was the book that made me say A-HA! Now I get it.
Mo, can you shed a little light on why you like the Lorange book? Does it have diagrams or shapes that are different than CAGED?

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Old 03-29-2007, 12:14 AM
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Never did the CAGED system, I just know the notes on the guitar, keys, and play out of the keys or scales, good understanding of the Scales helps, Harmonic Minor, Jazz Minor ect, find that a lot of shapes that have very little meaning to me to be dumb, I can play scales and modes with a problem, since I know the notes I am looking for and where they are on the guitar.
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