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Old 06-04-2007, 08:55 AM
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D'Lite Speaker Compare

Ok all you whose ears still work. Which should it be??? :-)
I borrowed 3 fairly high-end speakers from Moss yesterday and made some short (approx. 30 sec. each) comparison clips last night. I mounted them in my Mesa 1x12 wide cab and changed nothing else for the recording. Mic was an SM57 about 1-1/2" of the grille cloth, right near the edge of the cone.
Tell me what you think about the tone (not the playing ) of each.
Loren
Clip 1
Clip 2
Clip 3

All constructive critcisms welcome!
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:05 AM
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I liked 3 by a small margin over 1.

A suggestion... try using a touch of reverb on the guitar (room, plate, etc) to let it sit in the mix more naturally and breathe a bit. You'll get a more open and natural sound. Right now you have the track and this very dry guitar sound, like your ear is right next to the speaker, which isn't what listening to guitar is normally like. Robben Ford always has reverb on his recordings and it's an integral part of his recorded tones.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:25 AM
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I liked 3 by a small margin over 1.

A suggestion... try using a touch of reverb on the guitar (room, plate, etc) to let it sit in the mix more naturally and breathe a bit. You'll get a more open and natural sound. Right now you have the track and this very dry guitar sound, like your ear is right next to the speaker, which isn't what listening to guitar is normally like. Robben Ford always has reverb on his recordings and it's an integral part of his recorded tones.
Funny you should mention that. I did have reverb in the mix, but took it out for the compare....I think I'll remix with the 'verb added.
thanx
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:42 AM
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I like #2 the best followed by #3. I liked the way the high end was a little smoother.

Please let us know what speaker was what. I haven't completely decided on what I'll be using when I get my D'lite together.

Thanks,
mR
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:18 AM
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#1 is a Celestion greenback g12m, 75hz bass resonance; 15 ohm
#2 is a Jensen alnico Blackbird (this thing weighs about NOTHING!) 8 ohm
#3 is a Celestion g12 alnico gold 8 ohm
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:35 AM
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Hey Loren -
Out of the three, the Alnico Gold was the worst. I wasn't impressed with the Greenback either.
The Jensen Blackbird was the best out of the three. . . to my ears, anyway.

Greg
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:01 AM
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The Dumble 1 12" combo uses EV for a speaker,
the 2 12" cabs are loaded with Celestion Blues.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:10 PM
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I like...in order...

Best: Celestion greenback g12m, 75hz bass resonance; 15 ohm
Then: Celestion g12 alnico gold 8 ohm
And lastly: Jensen alnico Blackbird

The Greenie seemed to be most expressive to me, but I can see why some might like the darker tones for this tpe of sound.

Thanks for the sample! Next time give it a few days or a week before the reveal.

Greg
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:24 PM
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i thought the greenback was way too bright.
i'm surprise how dark the jensen sounded.
the celestion hi wattage AlNiCo had nice midrange definition and might be what i choose.
i'd like to hear the jensen w/ more highs from the amp.
that might be very nice.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:38 PM
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You should hear the Gold combined with the Heritage G12-65. It's the best of both worlds.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:31 PM
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Very interesting.
I still need to decide on speakers for mine so I listened to all 3 before I read anyone elses comments.

The Greenback was my clear favourite. Fat enough but with bite, like a Jack Russell guarding a pie shop.

The Jensen was smooth like 5 times filtered mud. Not my thing at all.

The Gold was good but a bit tubby and polite, like an obsequious fat man asking for another cake.

Damian.

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Old 06-04-2007, 03:50 PM
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Went back and listened to all the clips again. The Celestions had too much fuzz. Not smooth to my ears.
Although the Jensen is a bit dark, it was the least fuzzy one.

Greg
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:41 PM
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My ears like 2 the best, followed by 3 and then 1 the least.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:46 PM
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I liked #1 as well, but I really can't do any "quality" listening through my computer speakers. The other two just didn't have any bite. Must be that Jack Russel thing.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:24 PM
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#1 was "super vintage" sounding.
#3 was "vintage like"
#2 was more modern

Right now I am in vintage mood so I liked #1 the best, however that might change by next week .
 

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