Electro Voice speakers ..... a little disappointing ....

[RL in Fla]

If it happened with 2 different speakers , they may be too much for that thiele to handle -
some kind of resonance/standing wave mismatch thing , or see mb's post re: baffle .

[MightyGuru]

What you are describing was never an issue with any EV speaker I've ever used.

[Carol-AnnAmps]

I've pushed a Marshall Major in to a single 200W 12L and the amp gave way first.

Also I've never had a single failure with a 12L. What you describe is something the 12L does not do and the fact that two are doing it points to something else.

I've seen some situations where a 12L can cause all sort of cab weaknesses to show, in fact in one combo that originally came with a Celestion, the low end of the 12L damn near destroyed the cab.

[Squigglefunk]

my EV 12L does the same thing as tweedbucket describes when pushed too hard and has decent low end but certainly nothing amazing. So if it's a defect it must be a common one. The speaker functions perfect until hit too hard, has no rubbing etc. Doesn't bother me because it's not my favorite sounding speaker anyway and rediculously heavy.

[bosstone]

I have had at least a dozen EVM 12Ls and I use one now. None of them have done what you describe. I actually turned one up high enough to blow it up and didn't have your experience. It must be the amp.

[voojo]

Originally Posted by Carol-AnnAmps

I've seen some situations where a 12L can cause all sort of cab weaknesses to show, in fact in one combo that originally came with a Celestion, the low end of the 12L damn near destroyed the cab.

That would be something to see at a show, instead of an amp blowing up and catching fire, how about a cabinet blowing up and sending splinters all over!

:RoCkIn

[bosstone]

The reason Mesa started putting suspension in the Mark II's is that 100 watts when used in a single 12" combo cab with an EVM was shaking the electronics apart. Blues Saraceno had a lot of problems with the non suspension models because he was really cranking the things for hours at a time.

[Dr. Tweedbucket]

Originally Posted by BudLite

EV's are very clean and loud, maybe your amp is breaking up. What
kind of amp are you using.

Mesa MkIII


It's not like a tube overdriving .... like I said, I will test it out with another amp. I guess anything is possible.

Originally Posted by stratzrus

I have never heard of the EVM 12L having a sweet distortion on breakup, few ever push them to that point.

May I assume that at the point of breakup they were really really loud? They may not be the best speaker for pushing to the point distortion.

Did you buy them new or is it possible that previous owner pushed them too hard and they are slightly damaged?

No rubs and the cones are in great shape.

[BudLite]

AHHHH, theres the problem...a MIII Boogie...I had one new in 87'..
I had a EV in it too, That amp has never lived up to the hype, A real dissapointment....
Sell it and buy a better amp.....

[bosstone]

Originally Posted by BudLite

AHHHH, theres the problem...a MIII Boogie...I had one new in 87'..
I had a EV in it too, That amp has never lived up to the hype, A real dissapointment....
Sell it and buy a better amp.....

Hogwash!!!

[BudLite]

and BOULDERDASH too you my friend....:AOK

[bosstone]

Then it's wet noodles at dawn sir.

[FFTT]

No problem with my EVM12L.

I do get break-up with my Hot Cat 100R, but it's coming from the amp.

[bosstone]

Try it with Volume 1 at 6 or below, if there is a graphic eq turn it off. Don't have either of the bass pull pots pulled and don't have the bass beyond about 2 1/2, in the clean channel. Make sure you are plugged into the 8 ohm jack with the amp in the 100 watt mode and redo the speaker connections. If you still have trouble there is a problem in the amp.

[rburkard]

I had a long love/hate relationship with EVMs in the 70th and early 80th. If you used single 12" combos, there were no any serious alternatives to the EVM-12. They sound unmusical and have a diabolic mixture of being harsh and foggy at the same time. It is so nice to have so many great alternatives in terms of speakers these days.
Rene