Become a Supporting Member


Go Back   The Gear Page > Instruments > Luthier's Corner: Guitar & Bass Technical Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-08-2008, 10:09 PM
brad347 brad347 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 4,497
modern frets closest to stock 60s Gibson frets

Hey all.

I'm about due for a refret on a '67 Epiphone Riviera.

I want to put frets on that are as close to the original width as possible. I wouldn't mind if they were a little taller than the frets on there right now (don't know if they are leveled or not). They're so low that they could not even be dressed... 'fretless wonder' style. That's not really my bag, but i don't want real tall frets either. I don't care for either extreme, but something right down the center of the strike zone. I like old guitars and have always played old guitars, and I'm used to the way they feel. Never got into big frets.

So, not caring much for big frets, even "medium jumbos," I tend to like skinny frets of medium height. The originals on my '62 jazzmaster and '53 Epiphone Triumph are perfect, but most people would probably consider them banjo frets nowadays.

I realize the wire on the Epi is a little wider than that wire, but I want to leave it with what it was built with. I sort of believe in letting guitars be what they are rather than changing them all around. I changed one guitar all around and it didn't help it much, but that's another story...

Anyway, my question is "what currently produced wire is as close as possible to stock 60s Gibson wire."

While we're at it, I've also heard rumblings of late against the durability/quality of Dunlop fretwire. Anyone else heard this and can confirm/deny it? If so, who makes better wire?

This will be my first time to have a guitar refretted. I've always had enough guitars around and played with a light enough touch that I've managed to avoid it until now. I'm afraid that old jazzmaster isn't far behind though...
__________________
proud endorser of K&K Sound Systems acoustic pickups and microphones
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-09-2008, 09:49 PM
brad347 brad347 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 4,497
no help huh? Bummer.
__________________
proud endorser of K&K Sound Systems acoustic pickups and microphones
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-09-2008, 10:54 PM
John Bell John Bell is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,911
Dunlop 6230 is what you're looking for.
__________________
http://www.johnbellmusic.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-09-2008, 11:29 PM
brad347 brad347 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 4,497
thanks kindly!!
__________________
proud endorser of K&K Sound Systems acoustic pickups and microphones
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:18 AM
Soapbarstrat Soapbarstrat is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 873
If my old Dunlop chart is still correct (from 1990), 6230 is .080" wide by .043" tall.
I know there's a chart online, but I'm too lazy.
Anyway, if that's the size you want, you got plenty of options. If you want to go a little taller, there's the .090" to .095" wide by .047" tall. Stew-Mac's #155 is .080" wide by .048" tall (batch I have is).
And then Jescar (King of fret-wires) has those sizes in NS, SS, and the 080 x 043 in gold colored bronze.
I have to agree that Dunlop is not the best quality wire out there today and not in my best interest to say that, since I do have some handfulls of Dunlop wire still. But I should say, Dunlop is certainly not the worst quality wire out there today. I've had the most trouble with the Dunlop 6105. Takes me 6 feet of Dunlop 6105 to do a 22 fret neck, because I have to put much of it in the reject pile for having so many pits in it.
Normally, it takes me around 4.5 feet for a neck, if it's properly made wire.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-10-2008, 08:14 AM
brad347 brad347 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 4,497
am I correct that jescar doesn't seem to have a website, only a mailing address? Is there anywhere where jescar wire is available online?
__________________
proud endorser of K&K Sound Systems acoustic pickups and microphones
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-10-2008, 08:17 AM
Mike9's Avatar
Mike9 Mike9 is offline
Gold Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Upstate, NY
Posts: 7,432
http://jescar.com/index.html
__________________
"I fought the Tone . . . and the Tone won."
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-10-2008, 08:47 AM
brad347 brad347 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 4,497
thanks. That very first one on their product page looks like what I want.
__________________
proud endorser of K&K Sound Systems acoustic pickups and microphones
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999-2013, The Gear Page, LLC, Brian Scherzer
All rights reserved.
Header Graphic by NetThink 21