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Old 03-28-2008, 10:00 AM
Metalmike117 Metalmike117 is offline
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Bogner Mods, high gain?

Good morning/afternoon,

I have a slight situation, that I would like some input on from my extended GP family. I used to play in a metal band for 5 years however, my roots are in Zeppelin AC/DC and Clapton and fusion. SOOO, I have an opportunity to play in another Metal band. The band needs a 2nd player. However they use a 7 string. The riffs are killer and I could really get crazy with the lead work, and I think it could be fun. So now to the gear question....

I have a Shiva 6l6 combo. I sold my Recto Head a few months back. So if I audition and join up, I need to figure the amp situation out. There are mods available for the Shiva to bring it up to the Ubershall level of gain. Should I do that or find me another Recto? The mod is extremely easy to do and I can reverse it very easily. HELP.

-Mike

And I need a frikken 7 string.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:37 PM
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Good morning/afternoon,

I have a slight situation, that I would like some input on from my extended GP family. I used to play in a metal band for 5 years however, my roots are in Zeppelin AC/DC and Clapton and fusion. SOOO, I have an opportunity to play in another Metal band. The band needs a 2nd player. However they use a 7 string. The riffs are killer and I could really get crazy with the lead work, and I think it could be fun. So now to the gear question....

I have a Shiva 6l6 combo. I sold my Recto Head a few months back. So if I audition and join up, I need to figure the amp situation out. There are mods available for the Shiva to bring it up to the Ubershall level of gain. Should I do that or find me another Recto? The mod is extremely easy to do and I can reverse it very easily. HELP.

-Mike

And I need a frikken 7 string.
I would definitely look into getting another amp for the job because even in the long run, I can't see you playing a shiva combo in a metal band even if you mod it and add a 4x12 cab
With that said, to buy you some time ,I think that maybe you should audition for the band at a rehearsal studio that has a recto setup and go from there.

On another note, Get yourself a 7 strung asap

All the best!

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Old 03-28-2008, 12:39 PM
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I´m not that familiar with the Shiva, but I´m thinking that adding a boatload of gain doesn´t necessarily make it metal. If the voicing isn´t like the Uberschall then gain like the Uberschall probably won´t make it metal like the Uberschall
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:40 PM
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Would the VHT Deliverance 60 do it?
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:57 PM
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I like 7 strings they are fun, but I have been jammin' on fusion for a while. So 7 strings should be fun. I am looking into a 2 Channel Dual Rec. However I am gonna hold off until I know I am in the band. Thanks for the input. I will say this, the Shiva can get very heavy, but not Mesa heavy. Thanks guys!
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:12 PM
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+1 on the Uberschall!
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:43 PM
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Yeah, I'd say track down another amp as well
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:51 PM
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There are mods available for the Shiva to bring it up to the Ubershall level of gain.
And I need a frikken 7 string.
the quick answer is yes(the shiva can be modded to provide throttling uber low end).
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:10 PM
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the quick answer is yes(the shiva can be modded to provide throttling uber low end).
It can be done, but not by Bogner (unless you're a "somebody" in a band singed with a label, bigtime LA producer, etc). Bogner no longer does mods for us regular guys.

I'd sell the Shiva and get an Uber or another modern high gain head.
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:54 PM
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I think I would rather try the Mod first and reverse it if I don't like it. Before I drop 1200 on a Recto. Which mods have you guys heard of?

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Old 03-28-2008, 06:38 PM
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the quick answer is yes(the shiva can be modded to provide throttling uber low end).
I played an amp owned by Snider ( and maybe you Matte), called the "Super Shiva". That amp had metal level gain for sure.
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:03 PM
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I played an amp owned by Snider ( and maybe you Matte), called the "Super Shiva". That amp had metal level gain for sure.
the super shiva is such an amazing amp! did it have an excursion knob on the back?
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:22 AM
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the super shiva is such an amazing amp! did it have an excursion knob on the back?

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Old 03-29-2008, 01:40 AM
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I think I would rather try the Mod first and reverse it if I don't like it. Before I drop 1200 on a Recto. Which mods have you guys heard of?

-Mike
On the Bogner board/forum,theres a guy well known there for doing simple mods, and shares the info. Simple jumper wire across one one spot on the board . Check out his(BrentSP) high res pic of this.
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:31 AM
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On the Bogner board/forum,theres a guy well known there for doing simple mods, and shares the info. Simple jumper wire across one one spot on the board . Check out his(BrentSP) high res pic of this.
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