Name This Delay!!!! Attention all delay connoisseurs!

[BluesHarp]

Its supposed to give it a bit stronger sound as a side benifit. Its a " Id rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it" thing.

Originally Posted by john denver

I have the 300ms version...and love it!! I actually lucked into it when it first came out. Now they have the 600ms!!!....to mod or not to mod, that is my question. Anyone try both and think that 300ms more is worth the 75$ for the mod?

I only have that delay so i can't really compare what 300ms more actually would give me.

[BluesHarp]

My plan is too use a Analogman modded dd-6 for slapback. Slapback or short short repeats with a digital delay sounds better IMO. I think that I may end up with two delays for this very reason. One for tape type delay and longer eights etc, and one for slap. Isnt this the way you guys with 2 delays are doing it? I remember the thread on "who uses 2 delays?"

Originally Posted by erksin

If you use primarily slapback type short echoes, stay with the 300ms - the 600ms in my experience didn't do the short echoes nearly as well.

[erksin]

Originally Posted by BluesHarp

Its supposed to give it a bit stronger sound as a side benifit. Its a " Id rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it" thing.

It sounded a little brighter/more strident to me.

The bounce to the short repeats were definitely not as responsive as with the 300ms version, and the controls are much more sensitive - a little more difficult to find the sweet spots.

[drbob1]

If you're concerned about the delays stepping on the active notes, the DBD is the BEST at doing that. He's EQ'd it differently than any delay I've ever played (and that's maybe 30 or 40) just for that reason. The only other delay I can think of that'll do that is a Line 6 with the Ducking Delay, although it's not quite the same. I've directly AB'd the DBD with a Way Huge (the most musical delay I've ever owned), SIB, Diamond and some rackmount stuff I have right now, and it simply was the best for that "harmonized soloing" stuff. Good luck with your search...

And yes, I'm using a DD2 (Japan) for slap back, and the EchoPark for longer harmonizing stuff in my church board.

[BluesHarp]

Tell me about the echopark.. why did you pick that one?

[otherone]

DD2 or DD3 with analogman hi-cut mod, or Cmatmods Deelay, or Mad Professor DBD. I think the best of all would be the SIB red Echodrive, but its box is too big.

[BluesHarp]

I wonder if the cmatmods deelay is a clone of the dbd. Not saying it is, but I have heard some familiar descriptions of both.

Originally Posted by otherone

DD2 or DD3 with analogman hi-cut mod, or Cmatmods Deelay, or Mad Professor DBD. I think the best of all would be the SIB red Echodrive, but its box is too big.

[BluesHarp]

Well...

The analogman delay is killer!!!!!!! I will probably be satisfied with it for awhile until I go to a 2 delay set-up. It has NO change in volume when engaged, sounds a bit clearer than the DBD ( the only reason I sold it really ) but it still sounds warm and doesnt jumble up much with the repeats.... but still not as good as the dbd. Great all around delay that sits very comfortably between a digital ( dd-2 ) feel and the dbd/warm feel.

Thanks guys for the help!

[cbpickin]

Cool, I thought you would dig it!!:AOK

[Seegs]

I went back and forth between a DBD and the AM 300ms delay until I realized and appreciated that the DBD was just more neutral in bypass...I love the AM delay but its buffer added a top end to my signal and took away some of the punch on my bass strings that was sometimes ok but more and more I found that I wanted a more neutral signal...the kicker was that it didn't jive with the Klons buffer...I don't regret the decision...

I'm really happy with the DBD and perhaps when I get flush I will get another AM delay as it did sound great and is very musical...

Chow,
Seegs

[BluesHarp]

Well a looper would eliminate that... and the more I think about it, I feel a good quaity looper would do more than just offer true bypass ( all of my pedals are allready TB ) but it would shorten the distance at any one time from my guitar to the amp. ( I notice a difference between plugN right in my amp and going through my 12 TB pedals... go figure )

The buffer in the AM delay does excatly that for me, so I do notice a small difference in my tone with it in my chain. But isnt that tone supposed to be a bit closer to my "plugn straight in my amp tone"?

The Klon has a wonderful buffer that I remember... and that is a pedal I may get back.

The AM is very musical as is the DBD.. but in different ways. I still want my DBD back. It was great for harmonica and with my Taylor 810celtd acoustic. And it did that spacey deep tape sound very well.

Originally Posted by Seegs

I went back and forth between a DBD and the AM 300ms delay until I realized and appreciated that the DBD was just more neutral in bypass...I love the AM delay but its buffer added a top end to my signal and took away some of the punch on my bass strings that was sometimes ok but more and more I found that I wanted a more neutral signal...the kicker was that it didn't jive with the Klons buffer...I don't regret the decision...

I'm really happy with the DBD and perhaps when I get flush I will get another AM delay as it did sound great and is very musical...

Chow,
Seegs