Major Change In Emporium Use: Please Read!

[Lintybits]

Don't think it's a bad idea, but it raises a question. Does this change bring any sort of buyer protection with it?

Let's say I'm a paying member who gets ripped off by another paying member; is TGP assuming any responsibility for that transaction?

[Dave Orban]

Originally Posted by Lintybits

Don't think it's a bad idea, but it raises a question. Does this change bring any sort of buyer protection with it?

Let's say I'm a paying member who gets ripped off by another paying member; is TGP assuming any responsibility for that transaction?

No, and why would you expect it to?

[Dave Orban]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

this is BS. I have been a member for a long time. I have had many awesome deals. Now I have to pay to take advantage of what I've been doing for years. this is like my job taking my benefits away...not cool. I am with John Suhr...time to look for a new board

Hey, start your own board... see just how much fun it can be!

[chewynodoubt]

Originally Posted by Lintybits

Don't think it's a bad idea, but it raises a question. Does this change bring any sort of buyer protection with it?

Let's say I'm a paying member who gets ripped off by another paying member; is TGP assuming any responsibility for that transaction?

exactly if this is a move to protect buyers and sellers then there should be some protection implied if not.....

[Dave Orban]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

exactly if this is a move to protect buyers and sellers then there should be some protection implied if not.....

I think this is being done more to offset the escalating cost of running internet day care for the HC castoffs that have infected this place with bad attitude.

[chewynodoubt]

Originally Posted by Johnny Alien

Seriously. $12 for a whole year to sell stuff is nothing. You will pay ebay more than $12 for one guitar sale.

thats not the point....the beauty of the internet is 'FREE' and convenient. If the boards need money do like everyone else and sell advertisement, I don't mind, and there would be a ton of guitar related sponsors interested. If anyone should be forced to pay it should be the retail emporium

[DaveF]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

exactly if this is a move to protect buyers and sellers ....

It was a move to fund the board. Do you think a place like this just pops up on it's own, without money or donated work/time from the people who run it?

[iaresee]

Originally Posted by amigo30

I think it's a fine move. I'd never buy anything from somebody with a 0 post count anyway, and I've always hated seeing their stuff in the emporium.

We all started at zero posts. I've done a few fine deals with zero posters. And someone did a guitar swap with me when I was at a low post count. I appreciate the trust. This doesn't change the appearance of new member for sale threads. It just verifies they had $12 to their name.

[Trandy]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

thats not the point....the beauty of the internet is 'FREE' and convenient. If the boards need money do like everyone else and sell advertisement, I don't mind, and there would be a ton of guitar related sponsors interested. If anyone should be forced to pay it should be the retail emporium

Who ever said the internet was "free"?

Your computer cost money...your DSL, cable modem, or phone line cost money.

Certainly not "free" in my book.

[whoismarykelly]

Originally Posted by Dave Orban

I think this is being done more to offset the escalating cost of running internet day care for the HC castoffs that have infected this place with bad attitude.

Thats a very negative attitude for you to have.

[KCWM]

Sense of entitlement rears its ugly head.

It's not like your benefits are being taken away, because when you get benefits at work, you're WORKING to be eligible for those benefits. If you don't want those benefits, you choose not to pay for them. Most companies do not cover the cost of benefits for their employees. While some do...most don't.

As was pointed out...griping about $12 a year is fololish. Eat something at home 3 days out of the year that you'd normally eat out, or buy off brand when you'd normally buy name brand for a week, and it evens out.

[Johnny Alien]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

thats not the point....the beauty of the internet is 'FREE' and convenient. If the boards need money do like everyone else and sell advertisement, I don't mind, and there would be a ton of guitar related sponsors interested. If anyone should be forced to pay it should be the retail emporium

Bandwidth and increased users is what costs money. My guess is more activity is generated through the Emporium sections than any other including the Retail Emporium. And since anyone selling or trading is benefiting by the use of the board than a small contribution is not uncalled for.

And plenty of internet sites aren't free especially those that generate sales for a user. Like I said ebay is a great example. Feel free to use Craigslist it's still free.

[Trout]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

thats not the point....the beauty of the internet is 'FREE' and convenient. If the boards need money do like everyone else and sell advertisement, I don't mind, and there would be a ton of guitar related sponsors interested. If anyone should be forced to pay it should be the retail emporium

Do you sell on ebay?

If so, the sale of (1) $850.00 item costs you $31.06, then add in $24.95 in paypal fee's. Your a gold member investing 1 sale!

Anyone that sells should find that reasonable.

[dkaplowitz]

Originally Posted by chewynodoubt

this is BS. I have been a member for a long time. I have had many awesome deals. Now I have to pay to take advantage of what I've been doing for years. this is like my job taking my benefits away...not cool. I am with John Suhr...time to look for a new board

Good bye! I can't say I'll miss anyone who's gotten what I've gotten out of the emporiums here who can't spare $12/year to keep it. I've saved hundreds of dollars buying stuff here much cheaper than ebay. I've also dealt with really personable guys, and a few really terrific people that were so awesome to deal with. Buying and selling here is so much different than the fear, apprehension and watching my back I deal with when dealing on ebay. O yeah, I've paid ebay hundreds and hundreds of dollars since joining in '98-'99.

[Zilmo]

Wow. The complaining slays me. Pony up or shut up. Sheesh.